Triangle: Episode 13
by gummimochi
What poor, unfortunate souls our three Jang brothers are. Two brothers fight over the affections of one girl while the oldest gets a glimpse into how dark he can get if he allows it. On the upside, there are sweet moments in our budding romance, and I can’t get enough of watching the once-playboy stammer in awkward nervousness and betray a shy smile whenever he’s talking to the girl of his dreams.
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EPISODE 13 RECAP
Jung-hee asks when Young-dal was released from prison, disappointed to hear that it’s been some time and he didn’t call to let her know. His eyes downcast until now, Young-dal lifts his head to honestly admit how he wrestled with himself about whether he could call or come see her.
He says it’s because he wasn’t confident to uphold his promise to her in leading a more respectable life. His answer takes the wind out of her sails—what does that make her for waiting for him all this time for him? For reserving the spare room until he returned?
She walks away, angry and hurt, but Young-dal to confess that he never stopped thinking about her and that he missed her like crazy. He didn’t have the courage to face her after spending that year in jail. Her eyes well up in tears, calling him dumb, and Young-dal pulls her into a tight embrace. Aww.
Chairman Yoon is incensed to learn that Dong-soo is responsible for leading the class action lawsuit, which Director Hyun uses to bolster his argument that Daejung has faced too much trouble under young Yang-ha’s direction. In short, he sees the arrogant orphan boy as unfit to lead Daejung in the future and tells Yang-ha’s right hand man to reconsider his loyalties.
Grandma is absolutely beside herself to see Young-dal again, wanting nothing more than to make him a homemade meal. Aw, I’ll never tire of her sweet adoration towards him. Little Byung-soo is curious about what prison life is like at the dinner table, taking the “doing prison time” idiom in a literal sense and asks if one really eats “rice with beans.”
But Young-dal kindly answers that the food is better than that, and the air turns somber as Grandma sighs at how Young-dal had no family to rely on when he served time. He nods when she asks if he can’t remember his family. With that, they all continue eating, and Young-dal can barely hold back his tears. Poor thing.
His room is just as he left it like Jung-hee said, and both she and Young-dal smile to themselves in their respective spaces.
Dong-soo receives another important file from Detective Tak and laughs to hear that the detectives aren’t getting along with the new team leader in charge. He also plans to pay his mother a visit and asks for her address.
Chairman Yoon tears into his son about the dismal outlook of the company’s future, threatening to revoke his authority if this ends badly for them. Although Yang-ha looks just as timid like he was in the beginning of the series, he vows to take care of it, then runs to the bathroom to take his pills. (Okay, PPL seriously works—is that phone waterproof? I want one.)
Yang-ha relays the information of Dong-soo’s involvement in the lawsuit to Chairman Go, who takes personal offense at the action. Chairman Go is too ashamed to admit the massive amount of money he lost in Daejung stocks and vows to take Dong-soo down.
Likening Dong-soo to a venomous snake, Yang-ha warns that provoking him in the wrong way will only come back to bite them. That calls for using a hunting dog then, which means putting Young-dal to the task again.
Speaking of whom, Young-dal goes back to work for Boss Yang, a decision that perplexes Jang-soo since he should be hustling to pay Manbong back. But Young-dal tells him that he has a plan and it’s best that no one knows what that entails right now. I hope you mean getting revenge on Yang-ha and Chairman Go. You better not keep secrets from us, Young-dal!
His first order of business is to pay a visit to the underground casino, where business is booming, and he notes how Madame Jang didn’t even visit him once while he was in prison. He’s here to ask for some funds, since yunno, he’s practically broke right now.
Then Young-dal sits down with Elder Ahn and admits that he’s going to take the kind old man up on his offer.
Yang-ha seeks out Elder Ahn at a local restaurant, where the elderly man insists on treating him to a meal. He’s here to follow-up on that loan request for Daejung and initially declines the cheap eats, but tastes the food anyway.
His voice hardens when he hears that there’s a stipulation to the loan’s disbursement, saying that he went through the paperwork. But that isn’t what Elder Ahn means—rather, Daejung must use one of his people whenever he demands it. As in, that person will have a say in the company’s operations. Yang-ha isn’t happy about it, but agrees.
It turns out that the file Dong-soo received concerns a man named Lee Young-geun, who became Daejung Casino’s largest shareholder after bailing the conglomerate out of trouble on numerous occasions over the years. What Dong-soo plans to do is drive a wedge between their longstanding relationship, and Shin-hye worries that things may end up badly messing with such a bigshot, which is why Dong-soo plans to get it done quickly.
Shin-hye is called out to meet Young-dal, who asks if it’s possible to recover his past memories with psychotherapy. She suggests that it may be possible through hypnosis and tap into his subconscious. Even if I know that this technique will work for the purposes of the narrative, I still don’t want Shin-hye to be the one to do it… though she probably will, anyway.
The annoying sunbae trio gathers the new recruits to grill them about meeting clients on their down time. Jung-hee stands up to them, citing that they’re no model employees, either, but the leader points out that everyone knows the rumor that she’s dating Yang-ha. The other recruits chime in in her defense, which effectively gets the sunbaes to back off.
Hyun-mi is proud that her friend stood up for herself, and then asks if she’s interested in meeting a casino manager in Seoul for better-paying jobs. Jung-hee says she can’t leave her family, to which her friend argues that she can still send money to her family, or better yet, have the whole family move.
Boss Min shoves some money to the male casino manager who allegedly takes weekend trips to Macau and has already lost quite some money because of his gambling addiction. Getting him on their side will get them the inside scoop on Daejung’s happenings and she promises to do her best to stop Chairman Go from looking Young-dal up.
Yang-ha waits for Jung-hee in her neighborhood after work and is just about to call after her when he sees Young-dal run up to greet her. He looks on as Jung-hee teases Young-dal for acting all meek (which Young-dal swears he’s only like whenever he’s around her) and asking her out on a date. The two leave hand-in-hand.
It’s adorable just how normal their date is, as they eat ddukbokki together and shop for groceries, and Young-dal takes any and every opportunity to hold her hand. They’re both wearing ear-splitting grins by the time they get home, which makes Grandma uneasy.
Grandma is pretty sharp and pulls Jung-hee aside to clarify that while she adores and pities Young-dal, she doesn’t think they’re suited for each other. She’s against the idea of them being an item when Jung-hee should be dating better fish in the sea. Aww, Grandma, I know you want what’s best for Jung-hee, but the boy makes her happy!
Yang-ha drinks alone looking even more miserable and forlorn than ever. He throws his glass against the wall and buries his head underneath his hands.
When Dong-soo swore that this would be a new and dark turn for him, he wasn’t kidding—he uses a taser against Lee Young-geun in the elevator and holds the man hostage with his hands tied in a boiler room. Dong-soo looks more menacing than he’s ever been and tells Lee he has no other choice than to do as he’s told.
Dong-soo isn’t the least bit afraid of death and throws the secret file that contains all of Lee’s darkest secrets onto the floor. He scoffs, claiming that Lee brought this on himself and even a man who uses power and authority to move mountains like himself can do little once this info goes public. Even worse, what will his family think of his dirty and corrupt nature?
Dong-soo knows that he has Lee under his thumb now, and he divulges that he knows Lee’s only daughter works at Daejung: Soo-jung. Omo. He threatens to show his daughter the incriminating photos of her father dallying with girls younger than her. And that gets Lee to cave.
The male casino manager Bae has heard that another casino in Seoul is actively recruiting casino dealers by offering a higher salary. He’s suspicious when he sees Jun-ho meeting Jailbreak again (here to get more names of Daejung’s VIP clients), recognizing him as one of Young-dal’s boys.
Manager Bae takes what he learns about Young-dal’s current whereabouts straight to Yang-ha, who downplays his interest. Recalling his earlier conversation with Chairman Go, Yang-ha calls him to request that Young-dal be “taken care of.” Again.
Meanwhile, Chairman Yoon sits down with Shareholder Lee to ask for his help and pull some strings once more. However this time, Shareholder Lee declines and calls Dong-soo to inform his as much. Dong-soo covers his bases and warns Lee of the repercussions should he back out of his word.
Shin-hye finds Dong-soo deep into his fourth bottle of soju and disgusted with himself at how he made vile threats against a man to get his way. She looks at him with sympathetic eyes as he throws himself in self-punishment, cursing his own wretched ways.
She takes his hand and comforts him with silence as he breaks down in tears.
Chairman Go greets Young-dal warmly, claiming he had no idea that he was in prison. Young-dal keeps up appearances, though his modesty makes Chairman Go furrow his eyebrows in suspicion. Still, it’s enough to convince Chairman Go that his once-faithful hunting dog is now too weak to bring Dong-soo down.
Jung-hee’s boss asks whether she’s been recruited by the casino in Seoul, to which Jung-hee honestly replies that nothing is set in stone. She isn’t against Jung-hee advancing in her career, but advises her to take serious thought in her decision because she’s never seen anyone who takes every alluring job offer thrown their way succeed in the long run.
Yang-ha surprises Jung-hee with a week-long vacay in Vegas, upholding his promise to send her there for winning the casino competition. It just so happens that he has to go there for a business trip next month, so he suggests that they go together, an idea that catches her off-guard.
We learn that Shareholder Lee had informed Chairman Yoon that he was being threatened by Dong-soo. That conversation still weighs on Chairman Yoon’s mind when Chairman Go comes knocking. Believing Dong-soo is even a greater threat than his father was, Chairman Yoon orders Chairman Go to do away with him, too.
Today also happens to be Daddy Jang’s death anniversary again, as Dong-soo pays his respects to his father. Young-dal arrives just then, hesitant to interrupt such a private occasion until Dong-soo invites him in.
Something about Daddy Jang’s portrait gives Young-dal pause, noting how there’s something familiar about it. It’s a bit morbid how Dong-soo reflects on how Daddy Jang passed away when he was his age, but changes the topic to ask what Young-dal’s doing in Seoul.
He laughs in amusement to hear the story of how Chairman Go tried to recruit Young-dal again and pleased to hear that things are going according to plan. Dong-soo is confident that he shook up Chairman Yoon big time, unaware that the Daejung chairman knows of his involvement.
Elder Ahn visits Yang-ha at Daejung and speaks of how the gambling industry has grown over the years. He agrees that there’s no business that’s as successful as one that feeds a person’s greed, a part of human nature that never goes away. He agrees to lend money to Daejung if the company agrees to his condition, to Yang-ha’s delight.
Afterward, Elder Ahn swings by to see Boss Min, who used to be one of his former employees back in the day. He informs Young-dal & Co. that things are going according to plan, yet warns him that Yang-ha is quite the formidable opponent.
“Patience is the most important thing when it comes to winning this battle,” he advises. “It’s impossible to win if you don’t know how to bide your time.”
Yang-ha shares the good news with his father, who tells him that the Dong-soo matter has already been settled. For a guy who overheard his own father order Daddy Jang’s death, Yang-ha seems oddly perplexed by those words.
He does, however, confront Young-dal on his way home that evening. I wish I could say Yang-ha has the right to tell Young-dal to back off and leave Jung-hee alone, but he doesn’t with his one-sided crush. Young-dal uses this opportunity to put Elder Ahn’s advice into practice and remains calm, goading Yang-ha to do something about it then.
Being called a piece of trash hardly affects him now, and Young-dal leans in to declare confidently that Jung-hee already likes him, so there. Then he taunts Yang-ha even further by telling him that if Yang-ha can’t deal with that, he can go ahead and try to woo Jung-hee’s heart.
With that, Young-dal smirks and heads inside, leaving Yang-ha seething in his wake.
Oh great—Shin-hye is now Young-dal’s psychiatrist, too, since she’ll apparently be leading his hypnosis sessions in the comfort of her own home. She outlines the process for him with the added reminder that Young-dal could end up recalling some painful repressed memories.
He’s told that he’s free to stop at any time, since he’ll have full awareness and control over his body, and thus they begin the journey into his subconscious mind. Shin-hye slowly counts backwards, and then Young-dal falls under.
It’s also at this moment that Dong-soo walks in on the session, though Shin-hye quickly shushes him. Here you are doing your job for once, Shin-hye, and you couldn’t lock the door? Sigh.
Fine, we’ll just roll with the show’s portrayal of Shin-hye as an effective hypnotherapist instead of, yunno, focusing on how she fails on all counts to protect any of her clients’ privacy or confidentiality. Which also means that Dong-soo gets to stick around for this session.
As Young-dal’s memories flash into view, he verbalizes what he sees: a young boy crying and carrying an infant on his back. He doesn’t know where it is, except that it’s a dark and cold night. Asked who else is there, Young-dal recalls, “Hyung’s there…”
“Hyung is saying something to me,” he continues, tears streaming down his cheeks. “Hyung… tells me to look after my little brother and he leaves.”
As Young-dal paints the memory of that night for us, we see young Young-dal carrying his brother, his cheeks stained with tears to see his older brother run off. “My little brother keeps crying… and I’m scared.”
Dong-soo’s eyes widen, those words triggering a wave of recognition. But the tears keep coming as Young-dal lets his repressed emotions wash over him.
COMMENTS
As much as I’m proud of Young-dal to search for answers locked in his memories, I hate how incompetent Shin-hye is as a psychiatrist. I suppose on one hand being the one (and only) mental health professional in both Seoul and Sabuk gives her some kind of role in this show, as her job description gets longer with each passing episode along with her clientele. So far she’s been a profiler/drinking buddy/hiking partner/girlfriend/temporary detective/psychoanalyst wizard who now has seen all three Jang brothers. And even though she isn’t aware that the three men are all related, it doesn’t change the fact that they all know each other and that she’s even offered to introduce them to each other at one point or another.
Furthermore, it never fails to bother me how Shin-hye is the one who knows all of their deepest and darkest secrets—she is (or should be) aware of Yang-ha’s volatile nature, knows how deep Dong-soo’s guilt runs, and the one to guide Young-dal in his memories and bring him to the verge of a breakthrough. Even if we never knew what type of therapy she’s trained in or specializes in, or even broach the effectiveness of a recovered-memory therapy technique, I realize that it wouldn’t even matter just so long as the therapy method she chooses will give her more screentime.
So aside from how she possesses the magical ability to help someone recover their memories in a few minutes, I do see the importance of Dong-soo’s physical presence in the session, even if it breaks a thousand ethical guidelines. I really love watching the ebb and flow in Dong-soo and Young-dal’s relationship, and we’ve all been longing for the day the brothers recognize one another so that they can work together to bring down their enemies.
Still yet, I like how both Young-dal and Dong-soo are slowly becoming smarter about how they approach their revenge. What this show does well is in building in those lessons in our characters as we watch them fail, learn from those mistakes, and try something even better. So while it’s good that Young-dal doesn’t show his hand to his enemies, I hope that he keeps us viewers in the loop of his revenge or at least in his thought processes.
The rise and fall of these battlefield attempts apply to Yang-ha as well, though we can see that he has no one to turn to for his misery. Finally, Dong-soo’s dip into the dark side was interesting to watch, since you wonder just how far a former detective would go to seek his revenge. Although brief, we saw insight into how a taste of evil affects him and how much it disgusts him. Of course, Dong-soo has plenty of other things to worry about in this show since the baddies are after his life this time. Here’s to hoping that he discovers the truth before his lifeline runs out.
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1 Pungpung
June 17, 2014 at 8:15 PM
You should know by now that Shin Hye graduated from the Kdrama Academy of Genius. She's probably the Valedictorian of her year based on the many occupations she took up.
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CrazyRedHairMireu
June 19, 2014 at 6:51 AM
Where she should really be employed is the hospital in Doctor Stranger. There really isn't any security or ethical concerns there. She could probably slip in unnoticed too as long as she puts on a white coat and stays away from the surgery room. :/
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2 Orion
June 17, 2014 at 8:26 PM
Shin Hye is secretly an entity from another planet, here to analyze Earth's men and their many man-pain related issues. She is exploring the physical with the oldest, the essence of memory and psyche with the middle one and friendship-slash-backstabbing with the youngest.
'My Shrink from Another Star'. We've been fooled. That will be the big twist, I tell ya!
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3 Mimie
June 17, 2014 at 8:41 PM
After she returns, she can publish a series of books on the psychology of main-pain (in dramaland). If she wants to spice things up, she can add a monograph about the bromance as a resulted of such man-pain.
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4 Cica
June 17, 2014 at 8:43 PM
the hypnosis scene made me cry. I felt all the pain of Young-dal.
I like that Young-Dal and Dong-so will know their blood ties soon.
Brat Yang-ha is a weirdo, sometimes he is just a spoiled rich boy who can’t get his favorite toy then he act like a dangerous psycho.
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5 Niki
June 17, 2014 at 8:45 PM
Gosh...i was really pished at Shin Hye during Young Dal's hypnosis session. That was so unethical. How can you let your boyfriend listen in on your client's 'confession'? The least she could do is shoo him away. Just gesticulate! You don't need your mouth to do that!
Oth, how do i love Young Dal and Jung Hee's budding romance. They're just too cute together! That hand grab and their bashful smile as they patter off for a date and the way Young Dal hugged Jung Hee...that whole body enveloping...squueeee! Every single moment they are together, i smile as wide as they do.
Love seeing the bromance between Young Dal and Dong Soo though i wish the writers would utilise Lee Bum Soo to his full extend. I get so irritated seeing how little he gets to work with. I doubt i see him for more than 10 minutes for every episode.
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Yenlinh69
June 18, 2014 at 12:51 AM
Kdrama styles doctoring is what I would call this kind of treatments.
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cutiegojira
June 18, 2014 at 5:40 AM
LOL.. I am not surprised by all the 'over exaggerated' scenes.. that is Kdrama style in story telling. I admit that I dont like it but that's what makes it more dramatic. I used to hate it but now, I just go with the flow. Do whatever you wanna do writer-nim. It's dramaland.
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Lord Byron
June 18, 2014 at 8:24 AM
I second your LOL!
And my journey through the K-dramaland is the reverse of yours. At first, it was all novel, entertaining and addictive. But it is wearing off, and I begin to see what is underneath the bomb-grade hot & spicy surface. So, contrivances or inattention to details or far too casual attitude towards plot get in the way of my enjoyment a lot more now than they did before.
I wanted to like Triangle. But, after the second episode, I gave up.
K-dramas continue to evolve. Surprisingly, 2014 has been very strong in 50-episode dramas. At the moment, Feel-Good Day and Yoona's Street deliver far more than they promise, episode after episode. Even Wonderful Days - a museum collection of caricatures - finally began dealing with real conflicts, upping its drama IQ by several notches.
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6 KDaddict
June 17, 2014 at 9:16 PM
I FF thru every scene that has Skunk Hair or Cabbage Patch Doll. They've talked about their part in killing the boys' father a million times, but they keep repeating.
It feels strange to watch DS's scenes. Either the writing or the acting seems a bit off.
The psychologist/profiler is there to advance the plot, sure, but does she have to be so flat while doing that?
Her ex-husband is such a scum-bag. Makes it difficult to believe that she was once married to him, or that her father could be so bad at judging ppl after having been on the force so long.
I wonder about the extent of Yang-Ha's illness. What will drive him over the edge? What is he capable of doing then? I want to see him go berserk, for that'll add some excitement to this drama; it's much needed at this pt.
JJ and Siwan are acting their hearts out. Unfortunately, the writing is falling apart around them.
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pogo
June 17, 2014 at 9:28 PM
I agree with everything you say. Shin-hye is literally a plot device, and a boring one at that.
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Elizabeth
June 19, 2014 at 6:06 AM
"It feels strange to watch DS’s scenes. Either the writing or the acting seems a bit off."
I find Dong Soo's scenes weird to watch too. I think it is a problem with the acting, because I don't fine anything wrong with how the character is written. In addition, Lee Beom Soo's eyes bother me a lot, they seem to be in a perpetual state of being surprised the way they are wide open most of the time.
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7 PonyJay
June 17, 2014 at 9:21 PM
I like your first cap,the market date is soooooo sweet XDDDDD Definitely a big blow to our yournger brother XDDD
BTW,why suddenly Yangha became a little bit unsure of himself confronting his rival Yeongdal?XDD Did his father intimidate him so much?He look quite pitiful in this episode.Poor brothers.
Thanks gummimochi~Great recaps!
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Adal
June 19, 2014 at 1:14 PM
LOL!
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8 pogo
June 17, 2014 at 9:27 PM
The good stuff: YESSS, DalHee getting some love at last! That hug was good and long, and even better, reciprocated, Jung-hee wasn`t just standing there and letting him hold her. The tightening of his hands in her hair too, that was a nice touch. (and they remain adorable together). Halmoni turning into a naysayer on them was also not unexpected tbqh.
Also, Yang-ha`s turn towards the smashing of things every time things don`t go his way. Looks like he REALLY didn`t get the message that Jung-hee isn`t interested in him that way, hence the tantrum on seeing her back with Young-dal. (so much for his grand put-him-in-jail plan). I also liked Young-dal flat-out telling him to try to win Jung-hee`s heart himself if he didn`t like the fact that DalHee are together. Much better than the similar situation in Heirs, at least it implies it`s up to Jung-hee.
Worst: Shin-hye really is the least professional shrink EVER lol. I mean, I am glad the reveal is here, or half the reveal anyway, but damn you couldn`t order your boyfriend out of the room or the script could at least have him eavesdrop or something? Also, all the Chairman Skunk and Old Dudes Having Chats. Give me the brothers damn it!
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Adal
June 18, 2014 at 7:58 AM
Love, love, love the Jung-hee/Young-dal moments. It's one of the sweetest kdrama romances I have watched in a while, it's so low key, natural and normal compared to all the other hysterical kdrama romance lines out there.
Poor Young ha ought to realize, if he wasn't able to capture Jung-hee's heart in the one year when he had her all to himself, he probably never will. He can deal with it more maturely than smashing things or behaving like a kid whose toy has been taken away from him.
Jae joong continues to impress me with the strength of his performance; it's subtle, understated and very genuine, he uses his whole body to act and quite frankly becomes the character so the viewer is forced to feel everything he does, more as a participant than an observer, which is really amazing, as very few actors have the ability to do that.
Love the romance, love the bromance. Tbh, there's very little I don't like about this show. Dong So was necessary to the hypnosis scene because the viewer had to see that Dong Soo was getting an inkling that Young dal is actually his brother since Young dal's memory matches so closely with his own. Never mind that it was unethical for him to be in the room (it's kdrama land, let's suspend reality for a minute). Things are picking up and getting exciting.
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pogo
June 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM
it’s so low key, natural and normal compared to all the other hysterical kdrama romance lines out there.
Yeah, no silly made-up 'it's destiny!' kind of reasons, just a nice couple with great chemistry and a genuinely reformed (at least when it comes to feelings anyway, and at least he wants to change because of her) bad boy/good girl romance.
Jaejoong has clearly put in some really hard work on this drama and it's paid off. Siwan may be the more natural acting talent but they're both doing very well here, and they're very well matched in their scenes together - neither is afraid to go the distance and look unsympathetic.
They're also doing a good job of investing their characters with some nuance and layers, which is something that isn't really always supported by the writing. Well done, boys. (see, we actually like idols as actors when they turn in good performances!)
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9 ILUKD
June 17, 2014 at 9:46 PM
Only things I like about triangle is JaeJoong acting .... Everything else is meh ..... Anyway it's getting interesting .... I love love love JaeJoong in this drama .... I am so proud of him as a fan ... He is going to army with a bang :-)
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10 chun_nia
June 18, 2014 at 12:07 AM
jae joong last scene was really good...i can see the younger youngdal in him...he has has portray it very well...
i think if it is not bcoz of youngdal i might have drop this drama earlier..but i want to root for the character..to watch his life getting better..and that he has a family after all..i want him to succeed..and now he is on his way...looking forward
the romances between dalhee is so sweet despite it only take small part in the drama..i love how they go dating at the wet market..lol...other people would go to cinema or fancy restaurant or shopping mall..but here they are going dating buying fish...keke..
but i still feel lacking...i need more~
thx for the recap<3
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11 vale
June 18, 2014 at 12:09 AM
Ok, I´m in love with this episode, with the exception of some scenes. I just LOVE all the Dalhee scenes in this chapter. I can´t believe that there are people that doesn´t sense any chemistry between them. They are just adorable. I´m a little sad that the grandma doesn´t approve YD, but I can understand her.
Anyways, the best scene of all the drama is the therapy session. It was AMAZING. I´m officially in love with JJ the actor.
I can´t wait for the next episode, Thanks for the review! :)
pd: It was just so sweet the confrontation of YD and YH. Finally YD put him in place.
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12 dally
June 18, 2014 at 12:14 AM
YOUNGDAL I LOVE YOU ♡
I don't really like Yangha, and I don't think I'm supposed to yet (?) but I wish the writer would use Lee Bumsoo more for Dongsoo and develop him.
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13 kotoba
June 18, 2014 at 12:17 AM
I wonder why the ratings are so low compared to the other dramas
I find this drama much better than the other two.
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14 kotoba
June 18, 2014 at 12:19 AM
I personally find this drama much more entertaining than the other two. Hope the ratings increase and the drama receives more love!
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yuka sato
June 18, 2014 at 2:56 AM
probably becoz people find it slow compared to its competition, but we can rejoice for a while.
even if this episode drop to the lowest ever, in ep 14 its raised a pretty lucky number LOL it rise 2%. that's a big jump XD
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Haren
June 18, 2014 at 3:04 AM
Uh, I wouldn't go that far. The production and the direction of this has been pretty subpar compared to the other two
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15 Suilan
June 18, 2014 at 1:48 AM
Oh My God, this episode was amazing....because of DalHee. They are the best together, I couldn't get enough. I want more, and I love Young Dal's confidence when it came to Yang Ha. I want more DalHee scenes, loads more...lol
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16 Haren
June 18, 2014 at 3:00 AM
I'm probably not the only one here who fpalmed when young dal went to shin hye for hypnotherapy. I mean the idea of having shin hye do it is bad enough, but of all the ways to reveal the brothers' true relationship, this was probably the laziest way the writers could have done it. They couldn't have written a better way than YD suddenly regains repressed memory he had access to all along? (Not to mention psychotherapy is a pretty dated branch of practical psychology today).And having dong soo conveniently stand there? Just pretty disappointed considering the way they had been teasing and building towards the brothers' reunion since pretty much the 1st episode.
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17 Peridot
June 18, 2014 at 5:19 AM
Thanx gummochi. I agree with many of your points. Shinhye is a lifeless character. As the psychiatrist of the youngest brother, is she not able to detect how much of a threat he may be to Dongsoo? It does not help that she is such a bland character who does not seem to be following any of the dictates of her profession. That being said, I watch this show because I want to see how the relationship among the brothers develops. I want to see how they discover that they are brothers. Right now, I want to see the bond between Dongsoo and Youngdal grow stronger. I want them to realize that they are brothers right now! :)
Question: Does anyone think that the chairman adopted Yangha knowing the latter's true identity?
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Deliane
June 18, 2014 at 5:36 AM
WOAH PLOT TWIST
That might actually happen knowing the writers. They may feel the need to suddenly add some makjang turns in hopes of getting ratings up lol.
But more seriously I doubt it because what benefit would he get out if? Sure it's unlikely that Yangha will find out about his parentage if the chairman decided to erase all records, but on the off chance it happens it would completely ruin YH's loyalty to him. Why not just adopt some random orphan?
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18 cutiegojira
June 18, 2014 at 5:49 AM
"Okay, PPL seriously works—is that phone waterproof? I want one."
OMG! I was like "dude! your phone is in the sink! take it out!" but then the camera focused on the phone with water flowing on it. meh! it S5! showing it's waterproof function. I wanna have one too.. >o<
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Seohaseurri
June 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM
Obviously, Triangle is advertising Samsung's newest phone model Galaxy S5. It kinda went funny when Yang Ha intended to drop his phone into the sink with faucet on then the camera turned its focus on it for a while, only to advertise that the new S5 is waterproof and dust proof and blah-blah-proof.....you know, the power of advertising and marketing skills just went on! ?
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19 jae..
June 18, 2014 at 8:29 AM
OK FIX! Love this episode very much....^^
dalhee scene really daebak! how finally youngdal confess his feeling to junghee that he really miss her....that embrace, awww so long and tight....
and it was so cute when youngdal act so shy when around junghee the he asked junghee to date...hehhehe
Jaejoong improve a lot in here the last scene....with tremble lips and tears drop he found his memories. I can feel his scared when his brother left him....TT.TT
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20 shaynanigans
June 18, 2014 at 1:25 PM
I am really enjoying this drama.
I love how there is no rush for the story to unfold. This drama is all about the journey, not the destination. We'll get there in the end, for now the audience can just sit and enjoy the scenery on the way.
I love the consistency of this drama. The storytelling and the characters have all remained consistent. Unlike so many others that are airing right now there have been no left-turns into WTFery-land.
I'll completely agree that Shin-hye lacks any sort of professional ethics, but even that lack has been consistent from episode one.
Oh, and Jaejoong..... he's stolen my heart and continues to do so in every episode.
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Haren
June 18, 2014 at 4:53 PM
Yes, jaejoong's acting has been one of the pleasant surprises from this drama. We already knew about Lee Bum Soo and Siwan already had a reputation of one of the best/experienced acting idols around, but Jaejoong was a wildcard considering his relative inexperience.
I'm no longer watching his scenes with any trace of second guessing apprehension, everything seems so much more natural with him that I've come to expect a believable performance out of him every time.
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pogo
June 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM
Yes on the Jaejoong love. I doubted initially, but his performance is genuinely good, even if this drama has low ratings he can look on his work in it as something to be proud of before he does his military service. And I'll be happy if he can keep that high standard in his future acting projects too.
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Haren
June 18, 2014 at 7:00 PM
Honestly from what I can tell, his biggest downfall in his acting career so far has been picking subpar roles/scripts. PTB was a pretty typical rom drama, but Dr. Jin and then that box office bust Jackal? and now this?
Yeah, I don't who's in charge of that for him.....but he needs to get that sorted out.
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pogo
June 18, 2014 at 7:06 PM
It's sometimes just the luck of the draw though. Quality-wise this is the best of the lot, I have heard legends about the awfulness of Dr Jin. Ratings may be low but the script is far less messy than Dr Stranger, and the role is a good one for him.
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Haren
June 18, 2014 at 7:55 PM
very true. not everything is going to be a winner.
but given the nature of the premise in Triangle, the plot could have been much more dynamic
Deliane
June 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM
I think Jaejoong has the ultimate decision in what roles to choose. He has mentioned that Ji Sung looks over scripts with him and gives advice. It can be hard to judge when all you are going off are the scripts for the first few episodes, not to mention they change according to netizen reactions.
PTB was a good starting point and since then he's chosen roles with more range. (Won't include Jackal I'm going to see that silly film as a fanservice :P) So even though Triangle hasn't had the most buzz he's gotten recognition for his improvement.
All he needs to do now is stay on the same trajectory and choose a good script after his army stint.
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Orion
June 19, 2014 at 1:03 AM
Dramas are a gamble, since actors do not have anything to go by but ideas and maybe the first few episode scripts. So it's really a case of doing your homework on the makers, production company and station, but still not a guaranteed success.
As for movies, he is still not as powerful in the acting industry, so I assume his choices are limited. However, after his great work in 'Triangle', he is no longer a risk for creators to take, but a gem for them to use and polish.
So I do believe he will be getting a lot more offers after his army service and therefore have more options to choose from at the time. 'Triangle' may be mediocre as a series, but Jae Joong's work here is definitely not.
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21 dashie
June 18, 2014 at 6:58 PM
Jaejoong continues to surprise me. Youngdal is that normal, flawed, realistic hero you can't help but root for and his loveline is so natural and heartfelt. Oppa jjang!! So proud!!
Siwan is fantastic too so pathetic is Yangha I almost feel sorry for him. If only they didn't distract me with your lush pink glossy lips Oppa!!~
Lee Bumsoo needs more stage direction other than "cryptic stare" That was Sung Najeong...
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22 Ivy
June 18, 2014 at 10:02 PM
I like Dalhee grocery date and the last 10 minutes of this episode. Many people say it's lazy writing to use hypnotherapy. I, on the other hand, think it's closer to reality compared to, say, Dongsoo needs blood and Youngdal donates and the hospital accidentally (??) tests their DNAs and announces they share parents. Beside, I like that our 'hero' is proactive in seeking his past rather than letting "fate" slap him left and right until he quits.
I still think Jaejoong needs to work on improving in his craft much much further, but seeing him kindly taken in by the K-drama audience makes me happy. ^^..
Lastly, thank you for the recaps.
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PonyJay
June 18, 2014 at 11:16 PM
I think you are being harsh,expecting a big jump from an amateur to a highly-skilled pro.
I can't say he's better than other major actors in this drama,considering that he's got some inappropriate acting habits and his acting isn't as smooth as them,but he definitely has his amazing moments which outshines the others.Even those 'habits' i considered inappropriate has been corrected episode by episode.
Of course he needs to improve his craft harder than other actors because his lack of professional training and born talents of acting,but he deserves his recognition,by his audience.
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Pungpung
June 19, 2014 at 12:17 AM
"because his lack of professional training and born talents of acting"
If he lacks professional training, then shouldn't he be considered to have a natural acting talents? Because he is pulling out raw emotions here, not techniques.
I'm only curious on this subject because I kept seeing people saying that he isn't natural, but then he also lacks professional training, but then where are all these emotions and expressions coming from? Seems like people are contradicting each other when it comes to Jaejoong's acting.
In my opinion, he lacks techniques, so in ordered to balance that, he has to pull out raw innate emotions. His eyes-acting have always been there since his first project, I noticed. He is not using techniques for expressions that's for sure. So I would considered him to be a natural born for acting. Especially when he's very engaging as an actor, his presence is a natural. He greatly need professional training for staying still though,especially his fidgeting shoulders whenever he talks, and breathing problem.
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Ivy
June 19, 2014 at 12:55 AM
In my opinion, Jaejoong isn't a natural actor and he also lacks the techniques/training (I'm not bashing). He connects to his role by being an observer and by filtering the emotions he thinks suitable. He's extremely good with people in real life, and I'm guessing that's because he care genuinely and can empathize with them. He knows how to utilize this strength into acting, making himself identify with Youngdal and making the chemistry with other characters work, it is as if he's actually living as Youngdal in Sabuk.
This is why I think Jaejoong is very smart. He might not be born with talents, but he knows how to sculpt his own potentials.
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Pungpung
June 19, 2014 at 1:46 AM
What you described is actually natural born actor. That is an actor talent, they have to be observant, find emotions and bring them out. Bring the characters to life. Everything you described is what an actor should do.
Actually, what do you think an actor does?
A natural talent is someone who observes, then mimic but learn and find their style. Like an artist, some artist has natural talent, but they don't automatically paint you a Monet piece immediately. They'd have to play around in order to find that style. Natural talented artists also has to be observant and play around with things in order to get to their style that everyone deemed talented. And that is exactly what Jaejoong is doing and what you described. If he can get people to be engaged and have this presence in Triangle with little projects under his resume, then yes, he is a natural born for acting.
"This is why I think Jaejoong is very smart. He might not be born with talents, but he knows how to sculpt his own potentials."
This contradiction... So are you saying that other natural born actors aren't smart? ... and JJ isn't talented? But he can act as Huh Young Dal, I don't, I'm sorry I can't comprehend, I'm not trying to be mean, but yeah.
So let me get this straight. Kim Jaejoong is smart, but he isn't born with talents, yet he can make you believe and is engaging in Huh Young Dal in Triangle as well as sings the Ost for it. But he isn't talented, he sculpt his own potentials... How could he not be talented if he has potentials? What is his own potentials? If he has his own potentials in singing and acting, then isn't he talented?
Orion
June 19, 2014 at 2:23 AM
@PungPung, there are people who rock their very first role, who are naturally gifted, raw talents. The kind that blow your mind and feel like they belong right away. Acting geniuses, if you like, since Dramaland loves that. Just like there are incredibly talented artists who do create incredible art to begin with and then just polish it as they go.
Jae Joong is not a raw talent, but that does not mean he is not talented or suitable to be an actor. His talent is just not an instinctive "automatic" one, but his ability to observe, mimic and then develop.
There are natural born actors, talented actors and those who can only get there through hard work. Jae Joong, in my opinion and from what I gather Ivy's, is someone who does have the method to improve through hard work, but he also has talents that are necessary to reach that goal. He is between those two types, but not a natural.
Both of you are saying he is talented, just in different ways. I don't see how praising the man for working hard to get here and managing something natural born actors don't need to struggle with and work on is a negative thing.
Kiki
June 19, 2014 at 2:27 AM
"so he is just good like Young Dal cus he extremely good with people in real life"
LOL
sure because Young Dal was the good boy who everyone loved in Sabuk lol a charismatic kid with a lot of friends LOL it was easy to Jaejoong play like Young Dal cus Young Dal is like Jaejoong xD
Jaejoong also is like a freeloader and neglected gambler who dont know invest his money in good business.
so Jaejoong is just playing himself LOL
OKAY lol
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" it is as if he’s actually living as Youngdal in Sabuk."
"This is why I think Jaejoong is very smart. He might not be born with talents, but he knows how to sculpt his own potentials."
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he has been transformed into his character but this is not talent? xD LOL
an actor who can transform in his character and make you feel that he is the character is not born with talent? LOL
since you mentioned "talents" probably JJ cant sing or compose either , he is just a smart pretty face or maybe untalented kid with lucky xD
Pungpung
June 19, 2014 at 2:51 AM
@Orion
I don't think this is his first role? And if its so, I think it's too soon to say that he won't rock his next role, that we'll have to see later. But right now, he is showing that he has natural talents in him for acting if he is not as polished, but able to pull out genuine emotions of a character and bring that character to life.
I deemed talents as a natural thing that need nurtured. There is no subcategory for them. But this is because I am harsh on the theme of talent. I don't buy trained skills as talent, that is just a skills that one was taught. Real talent to me is someone who shine in that art with the trained skills. As we've seen there are many people in the realm of Kpop/kdrama land with taught skills but don't shine. With this thought process, I deemed talented actors or singers as natural born.
I don't think @Ivy comment meant anything negative either, however there was some contradictions that I don't get and trying to understand. And I uses sarcasm and snarks too much for my own good sometimes.
Pungpung
June 19, 2014 at 3:00 AM
@Orion
To add, because I'm actually going by the dictionary term for talent.
Talent: a special natural ability or aptitude
Orion
June 19, 2014 at 3:09 AM
@Pungpung I meant others rock the very first time, right away. I know this is not Jae Joong's first role. I have seen most of his works.
I agree that skills taught are not talent, but skills taught are not a bad thing either. The end result matters.
I guess it's just that people categorize things differently. To you, real talent is about training and becoming good through developing skills. And that is a talent to me as well, but not profession-specific talent (natural acting talent, maybe-she's-born-with-it), just one that helps the person shine in the profession they choose.
Meaning, if he chose to be a barista, he'd learn to make a hell of a coffee fast. Or a doctor. He'd save some lives and work hard to get there.
That is why my categorization is slightly different. Natural, talented, talentless. A natural does not need much effort, since they are just "made" for a profession. A talented person needs work, but can be great through it and a talentless one can work very hard, but will never really reach the heights a natural born or talented person will.
So it's more of an issue of what one considers talent, good acting and how they perceive of someone's place in the big picture.
Ivy
June 19, 2014 at 3:15 AM
In my opinion, there is a distinction between acting style and acting talent. Style is something comes with time, but acting talent will show in the first few projects. Jaejoong's previous performances weren't terrible, but not noteworthy, just like other typical entertainers venture into acting. With experience the lines between naturally born actors, well-trained actors, and people like Jaejoong will fade somewhat, albeit never gone completely.
To me, a natural actor not only are observant (a lot of non-acting people are), but they also naturally control their body language well (which is Jaejoong's weakness), can take on many challenging roles (which I don't think Jaejoong can any time soon), and have that X factor that makes them mesmerizing in their roles. Naturally born talents aren't common, and have advantage over others in the field they are naturally good at. I think Jaejoong's improvement is due to his hard work and extra-deliberate contemplation of the character and of the character's surroundings. In other words, Jaejoong has to walks double the miles to get to the same goal.
Jaejoong said in the press conference that this Youngdal character was EASIER for him than his previous characters because Youngdal "was more humane". I think this is the biggest factor in why Jaejoong is believable as Youngdal: he can identify with this PARTICULAR character. Throw him a cold, hard-to-relate character with a lot of irrational thought processes and I bet he won't do as well (Unlike naturally born/ well-trained actors).
"So are you saying that other natural born actors aren’t smart? … and JJ isn’t talented?"
No, I never intend to say other natural born actors aren't smart nor Jaejoong isn't talented at all. (English isn't my first language so maybe I'm saying it wrong.) I am only talking about Jaejoong's case with regard to acting. No one else is involved and his music talent is another topic. I meant to compliment him on knowing how to utilize his strengths (the people/communication/relationship-building skills) to cover the things he lacks (not naturally born and untrained). Jaejoong is good in important scenes where he has to put in more effort and think harder on how to convey emotions to the audience. In other less attention-grabbing scenes, he's kind of lazy in controlling his body language and it shows. If he is a naturally born talent, shouldn't his performance less fluctuating throughout?
I hope I make myself clearer. I am a Jaejoong fan but I sound like an anal anti here T___T.
Ivy
June 19, 2014 at 3:23 AM
Wow, I didn't realize my comment turned into a debate while I was typing a reply to @Pungpung.
And @Kiki was mocking me but he/she used "LOL" so many times I thought he/she was my brother in a severe drunken state.
Ivy
June 19, 2014 at 4:12 AM
@Orion and Pungpung:
Reading both of your discussions on what you think about talent is very interesting. I think the putting actors in categories regarding to their talent is difficult because opinions differ, lines blur, boxes overlap, and everything in general is relative. But if I have to do so, then my categories are very close to @Orion's, except I call them as Naturally talented, convertible, and non-convertible (help me if there is another word). Naturally talented is self explanatory. The convertible are those who use different methods to improve and can actually improve (exhibition: Jaejoong). The non-convertible should find another career for their own good.
PonyJay
June 19, 2014 at 1:28 AM
I agree with you,on the part that he has some natural talents.But I think they're more about his genuine personal characteristics rather than some particular skill,such as singing,acting,or composing.
Kim Jaejoong was seldom considered as a born-to-be artist regarding any of the talent above.He was a so-so member at the beginning of TVXQ,voice not so distinctive as Junsu,techniques no better than Changmin but he became the lead vocal in Japanese albums and later Korean albums,as he put a great effort to pursue his idol career.His piano and composing skill was taught by his fellow member Yuchun.And he began to publish composing after half a year.As for acting,he participated in vacation in 2007 but didn't show much enthusiasm for it until he took the role of Kim Kungtak in Dr.Jin.
He is very good at bring his own characteristics to his work and he is also a quick learner,from his fellows.Sometimes I thought he lacked some common sense of being an idol or a public celebrity,but other times,I came to believe that he knows himself so well that he decided to achieve his goals in his own way.
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Pungpung
June 19, 2014 at 1:54 AM
Oh wow, might as well just deemed him as lucky to be in Triangle then... LOL poor kid is being tore apart by you.
So are you saying that this kid is nothing without the other 4 members of his old group? Because that's what I'm reading right now.
And shockingly, I'm not even a fan of him or them, dang, I didn't know a small discussion on his acting can bring this out. Man, idol fandom is wow.
Deliane
June 19, 2014 at 2:17 AM
@ PungPung
I don't think either Ivy or PonyJay are criticising Jaejoong at all so perhaps you are reading too much into it? As a long time Jaejoong fan I read those comments to mean that Jaejoong knows how to use his innate characteristics and traits to develop skills in singing and acting etc rather than be trained into doing things a certain way. So that whilst he may not have natural talent in those areas he manages to excel in his own style through persistence rather than professional training.
Jaejoong was tone deaf when he was younger (15 yo?) and had to work really hard to get where he is today. While I wouldn't say that Changmin was at his level during debut (different story today) Jaejoong was definitely overshadowed by Junsu in terms of vocals and also by his own unique visuals (Korean audiences find his looks polarising). Similarly Yoochun was the one who was marked out as the composer and actor. So I can see where these comments are coming from.
Personally I just appreciate that Jaejoong has improved to this point, whether it was due to his natural potential or training or both! He has always been in it 100%.
PonyJay
June 19, 2014 at 2:21 AM
@ Pungpung I didn't expect you to read my words this way though O.O
I'm a hardcore fan of Jaejoong since 2004.And I've always wondered about this guy.You think you know him enough,but he can always find a way to surprise you.
What I was trying to say is that his talents are general,instead of being specific.His smartness,curiosity,creativity,honesty and passion may stand out more than his particular born acting talents.
Ivy
June 19, 2014 at 12:37 AM
On the contrary, I did not expect anything of him at the beginning of this drama. I guess seeing him improve so much was a pleasant surprise, plus Jaejoong being the only celebrity from Korea I care about, I get greedy and hope he could do better and better.
I agree that Jaejoong gets the credit for bringing Youngdal the character to life (with appropriate subtlety, in this particular episode I love how he lowers his voice while being hypnotized). The less important/filler scenes are the ones I see his acting flaws in, properly because he didn't put as much effort in contemplating those.
And different people have different takes. Jaejoong is very smart and determined, so I have no doubt I'll be satisfied by the end of Triangle.
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PonyJay
June 18, 2014 at 11:23 PM
Sorry about the typos and my poor grammar.
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Norul Wihae
June 20, 2014 at 1:12 AM
I don`t care if it is his natural born talent or skill development.
what matter to me is result.
for me Jae joong succeeds to bring Young dal to life.
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23 Sho
June 19, 2014 at 12:11 AM
I am having major sympathy for Shin-hye....'s actress. Out of this writers various flaws using characters as plot devises is usually not one of them, so Shin-hye's character is like the sacrificial lamb of the series, you could say she took one for the team xD
Thanks as always for the recap =)
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24 lyla
June 19, 2014 at 3:10 AM
this drama is slow but..i love that lol..the chemistry is good and dallhee is LOVE lol
I remember someone said s/he can't feel jaejoong is a good actor since he can't bring or make a good a chemistry as young dal with junghee (the girl he like) but..honestly...this people is so wrong..can you feel the sweet atmosfer and how adorable dallhee... he's so shy and awkward in front of the girl he like lol
anyway, interesting discusion about natural born actor and profesional trained actor above..i love to know more....
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25 Elizabeth
June 19, 2014 at 6:19 AM
I find the acting in this drama very mediocre. But the story is interesting that's why even if the acting is mediocre I still continue to watch it.
The writing is not perfect, there are a lot of flaws, but the twists and turns of the story are still interesting enough to hold my attention.
I don't care about all the romances in this drama. In fact, I tend to press the FF during the romantic scenes. All the romantic pairings are boring. I don't care much who ends up with whom, or if any of the brothers end up with a girl or not. Don't really care about the romance.
All I am interested in is the story of the 3 brothers, how the secrets will be revealed, etc. I really hope all 3 brothers will be alive at the end of the drama, so that they can help each other heal from the wounds that the past and their separation have brought them.
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vale
June 19, 2014 at 9:25 AM
Hahahahahaha lol, you look like a lost sheep here xDDD Because everyone love the acting and not so much the story xDDD But girl, I don´t know why are you saying the acting is mediocre, when in fact is amazing, but ok, I respect your opinion. Please keep watching :)
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Haren
June 19, 2014 at 7:36 PM
i know i complimented jaejoong's improvement, but he's not "amazing"; he's still quite green. let's not get carried away here.
And I've previously commented in other recaps, the female leads and the romances are pretty boring. So i can sympathize with Elizabeth here.
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Norul Wihae
June 20, 2014 at 12:58 AM
Are you sure you can watch and enjoy these 3 brothers story and their relationship development if the actors portraying it is mediocare in their role?
it will be cringeworthy for me, i can`t enjoy it.
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26 youngdally
June 19, 2014 at 8:13 PM
Really dislike yangha although I love siwan
Love dongsoo, he's like the super nice (most of the time) guy you can't help but wish the best for, and lee bumsoo is one of my favorite actors
And youngdal/jaejoong you're so perf I love you
I'm so excited for the time they'll all realize they're brothers
Yangha realize what you have done!!!!
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27 Heidi
June 27, 2014 at 10:31 PM
Young Dal is in a sense of ambivalence, handsome but ruffian. Had love affair with many women but fell in love with Jung Hee. Young Dal is a character with flesh and blood, with tough personality while possesses strong desire to have his own family. Kim Jaejoong brings to us Young Dal with his tremendous acting skill. Great.
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