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Yunho becomes sword-wielding Night Watchman

girlfriday: NoooooooooOOOOOooooo. Yunho is the latest addition to MBC’s fantasy sageuk The Records of a Night Watchman.

javabeans: I… am going to be positive about this. I have to be positive about this. My mental health depends on it.

girlfriday: Positive. Right. Searching for the silver lining…

javabeans: Maybe he took acting lessons? Maybe he learned how to emote onscreen? Maybe he learned how to say lines like a normal human?

girlfriday: Maybe he plays a character who doesn’t speak? Maybe he’s a ghost?

javabeans: Sadly (I mean, uh, happily!) he plays a human (which is where having spent the past few months, hopefully, enrolled in human-emotion acting classes will really pay off) who sees ghosts. But on the upside, he is “a cold-hearted man of few words.” Score?

girlfriday: It also says he’s popular with the ladies, but only has eyes for one girl.

javabeans: That’s good for him, because there’s nothing like heartbreak to draw the viewer’s sympathy, and we all know his acting won’t do that.

girlfriday: You mean, it WILL, because of all those classes! What happened to the positivity, man?

javabeans: Oh, right. Yes. The heartbreak will be exxxxxtra heartbreaky because he will have learned how to act it so well. Maybe he got his heart broken in real life recently!

girlfriday: Poor Yunho. Sometimes I feel bad for being mean, but I swear, it’s not personal. We would LOVE it if you were better!

javabeans: I actually really like him as a person (as far as I can tell from his variety persona), which is why I feel so bad for having such a visceral reaction, like seriously gag reflex level, to the thought of him acting in things.

girlfriday: And more importantly, why does he have to do it near Jung Il-woo???

javabeans: You’re making it really hard to be positive, you know. Maybe they will have mad bro chemistry. Maybe they will be the opposite of Yunho and Siwon in Poseidon, who were supposed to have intense rivalry-chemistry, and instead made me confused about what they were feeling. Siwon would be appropriately angry, and Yunho would look nice and then say mean things. The words said one thing, and the face said another. I was super confused in that show.

girlfriday: But that’s all in the past, right? Because three years is plenty of time to get your brain re-wired for emoting and stuff!

javabeans: I want to say more positive things, but honestly, the nicest thing I can say is “He seems nice in real life?”

girlfriday: That counts for something.

javabeans: I suppose I could be worse…

girlfriday: It could be Changmin?

javabeans: Or he could be the funny guy and not have to emote!

girlfriday: Yes, because he surely took comedy acting classes alongside the human emoting ones!

javabeans: That sounds entirely possible and even plausible. Yep.

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I was still very new to Kdramas when I watched Poseidon in early 2013. I was curious about the 'actor' who played Yunho's character because he was not a good one. I was glad that the character disappeared after first couple of episodes and didn't return till the end.

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Jung Il Woo.... god!!! i feel for him. Still, maybe the lead actress will make up for it? Maybe? Hopefully??

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man, I was waiting him to drop this like he did the last time... seriously, wth was in charge of casting??? theres actors like Jung Seok Won who was a swordman-Joseon PowerRanger that can pull off the "man of few words" role... ugh... I dunno about Junsu since his thing is musicals but I sat through Paradise Ranch happily watching cutie Changmin -dunno if im biased because I discovered Joo Sang Wook in that drama and was like *----* the whole thing-, loled at Jaejoong's antics in Protect the Boss and Yoochun's craziness in Rooftop Prince... Yunho should really do something else...

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I would love to see yunho in this..even though he needs improvement I'm still excited!!…hopefully he doesn't let the negativity bring down his goals in life…fight for what you want..fighting!!

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Can they just cast lee min ho 1993 and not yunho... >_<

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Yeeeehhhhhhhhhhhhh,

Thanks you ,

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Eh...he isn't even enough to ruin this project for me. Although, admittedly, our foursome might not be as awesome as SKKS. But JIW!!!

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Don't even compare with SKKS. I had good memory from those F4 . Poor JIW, would have helped if someone else instead of yunho.

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SKKS sequel is only comparable with the ORIGINAL casting.period. And Yunho damn NO,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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will Yunho at least get the ratings up?

I do wish it won't be that bad, I like Yunho. Also he might have improved the way KHJ did.

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A huge fanbase doesn't really translate into high ratings because its usually ahjummas who watch whilst the younger generation go online. Triangle has Jaejoong and Im Shi Wan and the slow plot just doesn't work for people.

What his involvement will do is ensure that Japan broadcasters pay a high price for the rights and also high sales of DVDs to eager Tohoshinki fans. Same as anyone from DB5K.

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I have yet to see his acting so I can't vouch for how bad he is, but on the upside if Jung Il Woo and this premise are going to be as awesome as I'm anticipating, Yunho's poor acting won't be enough to ruin the drama. Although it would be nice if they got a real actor who has chemistry with the rest of the cast. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Well... I'm off to find clips of his acting now. Fingers crossed? But I don't know like if even DBSK fans are begging him not to act... I might need to try this positivity thing you guys are talking about LOL

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i'm a lurker..yep i am...i read silently, i laughed silently over the discussions made, i made comments silently, i cursed silently when my fave idol-turned-actors are being bashed!

BUT THIS!!!...my God! only Yunho news can make me out..!

why Yunho? why? stop acting already jebal!

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LOL I'm glad at least one good thing came out of this casting news.

Welcome to the land of unlurked. :))))

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I'm not exactly a lurker, but don't comment too often either. May I make a suggestion? Wouldn't this make a great sqeecap? Something along the lines of Lee Min Ho fashion from Heirs. How Junho acted in this episode.

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Thank you both for being so funny . Both of you made my day with this conversation - pretty boys who cannot act. God is fair.

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Nooooooo. Why would anyone cast him? *facepalm*

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because of the endless amount of money poured in by SMent?

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LMAO at all the comments ahahhaha

Do I smell another petition stirring up? :p

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Was there actually a petition for Yunho not to star in YWCFTS? :O

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there was a very strong objection for him to be cast in YWCFTS. There was a big relief when he was not in the drama .The netizen comments were so funny then

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Hahahaha yes there actually was a petition...and I am glad there was...because the role that was later portrayed by the wonderful Park Hae Jin was a bit complex...and it actually required someone who knew how to act :p
I liked YWCFTS, but I would have skipped it if Yunho was casted in it...I have seen clips from Yawang that have scarred me :p

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:O LMAO I completely forgot that he was gonna be in that, even though I was silently praying that he would turn it down. The petition is extreme though. Kinda feel bad for him XD
I'm so glad he wasn't though, because even though I didn't care much for the character, his pretty face wouldn't have cut it for me. I need substance. Plus, Kim Soo Hyun was enough pretty for one drama :D

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I was just loling through out the whole petition thingy ? the fact that netizens didn't want him to star in that role and to go as far as to actually start a petition was hilarious ahhahaha...though I am glad he dropped the role..be it because of the petition or role difficulty...because you are right...a pretty face wouldn't have helped at all if the acting was horrendous...and PHJ made that character so much more lovable....going from an adorable puppy in love to a man with a moral choice and true will power...he was an interesting character and I am glad I got to know PHJ through this role...the man is wonderful! ?

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Why? Why ? wasn't his bad reviews for Yawang sent any message to him already....His character has to be killed off for the rating to improve. How about that?

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Ratings didn't even improve after he was dead.

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Man. This just spoils my excitement building for the show.
I can almost imagine him saying something profound in Joseon words, expressionless, then he realises he has to show emotion because that profound line really means something upsetting underlying, and rushes to show emo. Oh no. Oh gawd.

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*saw the headline*

Me: noooooooooooooooo!

*clicked on post and read GF's reaction*

Me: hahahahahahahaha

Oh, well, there's always the fast forward button...

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I just feel like crying...wait it this tears I feel rolling on my cheeks?? Gosh I just don't want to believe it!! I wanted an awesome team, not that Yunho isn't good but...he's really not good. There's a plenty of newbies who can act and ready to prove it. I just wish there will be like a last minute conflict with Yunho's schedule and he will be replaced. I'm mean I know -_-

But Javabeans and Girlfriday you really cracked me up here looooooooll

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NOOOOOOOOOO! I was so looking forward to this show. God, he is so awful.

Please just let him be the strong mute one standing there, silently protecting his beloved girl. You know, like that guard dude from The Moon that Embraces the Sun.

Whoa, whyyyyyyyyyyyyy! (((((:

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Is YunHo wearing beads and pearls in the photo above?!?

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this is such a random comment hahhhahhahah

and yes he seems to be wearing pearls :p

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you girls are so funny
I read it at soompi & immediately I think 'gf & jb probably crying right now while trying to write a post about it. heh'

SME actress on the rise this year with their solid performances (Go Ara, Lee Yeon Hee), hopefully he also find time to attend that acting classes.. Who knows, with that determination, he may improve his acting~
#positivity4lyfe

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Lol at everyone's collective shouts of noooooooooo. I have never seen any of his dramas, but I remember when he was considering the role of Lee Hwi-kyung, all his fans were begging him not to do it. Guess he really is that bad. But he can't be worse than Taec right, cause I saw Taec in Dream High and he didn't look half bad.

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awww...Yunho......I thought he had been improving from HTTG to Yawang. I hope he will continue to get better though. He seems to have problems emoting though.

I also feel bad that Changmin was being made fun of by association. I actually thought he is a much much better actor than Yunho. He was pretty bad in a rookie way in PR, but he was great in FWTG (that jpn movie he did). Too bad all k-drama fans and dramabeans seem to associate him with was PR.

Didn't watch Mimi but read that he was good in that one too.

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He wasn't. And I say that as a fan. I couldn't tell what emotion he was supposed to be portraying, and then I gave up and dropped the drama.

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ig taste is always subjective because i thought changmin was good in MIMI. Idk how he usually was in other dramas since MIMI was the only thing i saw him in. his character was supposed to be stoic, confused, struggling with memory loss and internalizing all those feelings blah blah. thought he conveyed it well, imo.

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nooooooooooooo~
when i heard the news about jung il woo was confirmed in this dramas, i was so excited to watch it.. but now... sory yunho, you just killed my interest to watch this drama.. i'll changes my mind if the feedback is good later. but now i just feel~ " ok bye!"..

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lands! Am keeping my fingers crossed.

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Remember when we talked about idols appearing in that drama and had a wish-list if it had to happen...Yunho was not on it! So, why???

I'm inclined to believe SM promise to take on some costs of the drama, sponsor something or whatever in order to have Yunho appear in the drama.

What happened to dramaland all of the sudden, are there no good actors anymore, any actors!

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It's so depressing that I feel the same way.... I LOVE Yunho. Yunho fan FOREVER!!!!
But why. WHY Yunho, are you so BAD at acting!!!!
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He'll be acting as a cold, expressionless swordsman. He'll be perfect.

Seriously, he improved in Yawang. I'm sure he'll do better in this one.

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I love how commenters are all like: "He's a good person but nooooooo!!!!!!" LOL!
What can I say, goodluck on your menthal health maybe or make sure your fast forward button works. :D

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this better be april fool joke.. WHY WHY WHY WHY. He seems trying too hard to be an actor.

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give the guy a chance!.. i'm for one is looking forward to see him in a dramaland once again.. he had improved in yawang, and crossing my finger he had up one more step.. (and like javabeans said, he's a really nice guy)

and hey, i actually like changmin's acting in MIMI.. he did won a newcomer actor award for a japanese movie..

i agree, out of all the dbsk member, yoochun is the most successful and has the most potential as an actor..

and i dont think jaejoong is all that great compared yunho/changmin in protect my boss.. haven't watched triangle so i cant comment much..

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well, a noted korean Movie director and award screen writer Yook Sang Hyo commented positively on jaejoong acting on triangle and says an actor jaejoong in triangle and no more the idol actor. Also liken him to having a feel as HK actor Leslie Cheung. That is a damn good improvement acting image for jaejoong. He is now in a different league to poor yunho

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I read that tweet from director yook too and his comment on jaejoong. He has improved a lot in his acting skill. He has good mentors and veteran A list actors in his company now to guide him and it shows in both his and yoochun's acting skills.

But I can't say the same for yunho. He just doesn't have the acting factor .

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eh? Yunho also have A-list actors like Jang Dong Gun and others in SM LOL
cjes has many actors but if Jaejoong or Yoochun would have no talent, they could not achieve anything
nobody did a miracle for them
Yunho’s case is different for obvious reasons

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Poor bitter jyj stans.Bored much because your bias didn't have a comeback yet? xd.even jaejoong drama flopped.Poor you

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stop using JYJ's names here to make your idol look less bad LOL maybe triangle has no big ratings but Jaejoong is still getting praises for his acting from experts and Yoochun as well. while even if Yunho's drama get high ratings,people will still think his acting suck as hell

btw Yunho first drama had 4% .even was cancelled..what a king of ratings

at least we have the consolation that ratings can change from project to project
Yawang got high ratings but Yunho still suck in eyes of people.
poor you

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And jaejoong dramas are flopping.It's a reality too.People like his fans and some actors who praised him were trying to be nice and he is not that relevant anyway for general public so they don't comment in a good or a bad way about him

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Sorry but bitter jyj stans started to talk about their oppa jaejoong here so deal with the fanwars now.U mad?I saw jyj stans tweeting about this link and working in gangs here to comment.How pathetic lol , they should spend more money in their oppas articles( if there is any) lmao

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I feel bad for him.. poor him.. but really.. he need to stop acting...

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LMAO ah Yunho, I love you, but no.
Well I'm alright, because I wasn't planning on watching this anyway.
Even as a Cassie (DBSK fandom), I can't even pretend that my boys can act.
I gave up after 1 episode of Triangle because I got bored, and Jae is my ultimate bias.
Guys, I love you because you are amazing singers and entertainers. I beg you, please stop acting.

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Jaejoong has been receiving good feedback from critics writer.you may be interested to read their views
Another acting evolution of acting-dol (Idol-turned-actor)

Watching Kim Jaejoong in , I think about Kim Hyunjoong in KBS “Age of Feeling” and Park Yoochun in SBS . They are the representatives of 2nd generation of “acting-dol”. Kim Jaejoong and Park Yochun was in TVXQ, Kim Hyunjoong was in SS501. If Jung Ryeowon-Hwang Jungeum-Yoon Kyesang ect., the 1st generation of idol-turned-actors, replaced their idol image by actor image; the 2nd generation still owes to the halo of idol image. The reason why I think about Kim Hyunjoong and Park Yoochun while watching Kim Jaejoong is that, I feel that their pace this year will be a turning point in their career. These actors, who have debuted with the roles which borrowed their idol image – Prince-like characters – came back one by one with blockbusters. While Kim Hyunjoong and Park Yoochun showed off weighty acting, Kim Jaejoong doesn’t fall behind Lee Bumsoo in terms of strong presence, which is another evolution. His transformation is also the most shocking. Kim Hyunjoong and Park Yoochun emitted tough masculinity. Nevertheless, they still maintain good-natured and heroic image. The character Huh Youngdal of Kim Jaejoong is pure gangster. His remarkable determination shone from the scene he ran for his life wearing only boxers due to a secret love affair with a married woman. However, through this scene, that he exposes his pain while saying, “Have you ever seen a dream coming true? When I was panhandler, I’ve had countless dreams. But never once did any of my dreams ever come true,” seeing how he spoke with restraint, which doubled the sadness, I can tell that his acting definitely matured. The idol-turned-actors who suffer from various reasons such as prejudice against idol, lack of self-effort, etc., another example worth taking as role model, was born.

- Written by Kim Seonyoung, TV critic -
Let the wild nature explode

Nowadays, it’s not strange that idols pop out over and over again in dramas and that their “foot acting” (t/n: Bad acting skills, usually a term used on idol actors) makes our hands and feet all shriveled up. In addition, as they keep running to the point that their “feet” sweat, I must prepare myself not to be surprised even by shockingly good acting from an idol. This is not a metaphor. Kim Jaejoong’s new challenge starts with taking off his top in Beef Tripe Hot Pot restaurant and running barefoot on the street wearing dragon-patterned red boxers. Obviously, it might be a trick to use an idol’s nice body to attract the viewers in the beginning of the drama. However, beyond that, something was exposed. Kim Jaejoong’s eye-acting is very good. When he said, “If I were afraid of that, I wouldn’t be Huh Youngdal. Let’s just die together then,” after having done a trashy act. When he begged for his life with his face covered with coal dust, while being burried. The way that...

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Why oh why?...next to my Jung il woo? Why??? I want to watch the show.....so sad now:(

Someone needs to be honest with him and tell him he can't act! Poor guy might be thinking he has a shot at this.

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i feel so disappointed. how could you say something like this to yunho. i know he is not the best actor but he is not that bad.just watch last part of his acting in yawang. you're so unfair javabeans girlfriday.

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Lots of comments about idols turn (bad) actors.

Many questioned what is happening in dramaland for this casting to happen at all.

Well, even Anthony Kim had to resort to something like this for his drama - enters Si Won's character ....

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Oh, Yunho. Poor thing. I hate that he is getting bashed, though I understand why. His acting is really not that good, as a die hard fan of all of DBSK, I can say that. I still can't help feeling bad though...I know he tries hard but??? SM should just stop casting him in dramas. Unless he really impresses me in this drama, I don't see a future for him in it. I love him but I cringe when he is on screen--it's so awkward. I will give him one more chance because I love him but....well let's just hope.

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Sm didn't cast him.He gets offers because of his popularity overseas

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Man that's a downer.......totally turned off now. I watched a few of his episodes in Yawang, and i literally could not handle the second hand embarrassment and the awkward acting. i've been afraid to revisit ever since that hospital screaming scene.

What's worst (not worse, but the WORST thing) about this is that he's cast in a leading role...........again. Like wtf, i can tolerate shitty acting in spurts, even if they are regulars as a side character, but how can you involve such horrid acting as an integral part of the story and plot?

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OH My Goodness.... Yunho still have the guts to do acting.... Poor guy still in a denial stage. Please this is not for you,,,please go back to singing. Poor yunho...how can he be made to accept that he just cannot act. Please give up

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Poor this guy... His company keeps pushing him into dramas even when the company knows the fact what people will throw at him will hurt. As if that's not enough, the production company also uses him to attract people's attentions with the hope that people will check out how BAD his performance is despite the fact that they already know what to expect. Just enlist, dude, and comeback as a normal oppa to your fangirls, not actor, please. Acting is not what you can handle.

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Aaaaaah. Now that is another perspective to think about. Hopefully Yunho is not totally oblivious to the critics (and fans) opinion about his acting abilities. Money matters before the good of their idols. Got to squeeze as much from him before enlistment.

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As a long time fan of dbsk and a cassie, I know all their strength and weakness. And Acting is really one of his weakness. Even on stage, when he tried very hard to act cute or crak a few jokes he becomes silly.You got to have that x factor in comedy and varieties which he lacks.He is really at the cross point of what he can do next after his idol life. Sadly the ending time frame is definite in an idol .

Hope he do a soul search and face reality what he is good and what he is isnt. Then work on those he is good at.

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javabean, girlfriday ... whatever you guys I feel so frustrated. Just I'm out of dramabeans. How could possibly write something like this. Yunho is not deserved this. He is so great guy.

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NOoooooOOOOOooooo

I love DBSK with all my heart but Yunho. Please. Step away from the dramas. I know he works hard and he enjoys it, but I really hope he finds another route to fall back on besides acting.

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Good luck Yunho.I know that you will improve

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HOW COULD U? My Yunniee T T T T T T

HAha, yeah, I do admit that his acting was veeeeeeery awkward. Baek Do Hoon was a bubbly character, even tho Yunho is cute in real life I think he's best suited for action movies/dramas FOR NOW. And he's playing cold hearted swordsman this time, so yeah, I think he'll do well.
He always does sth well becuz he does work hard. I'd say, let's see. He knows what people think of his acting, even if he doesn't know I'm sure Minnie mocked him about it kkk.

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So I came here because I knew your reaction would be the best...but I'm dying at the Cassie fanwar in the comments...

There are even YunJae comments about the timeslot...I CANNOT

*dies laughing*

Fandom never changes

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Oh great, fangirls have found out that you can repeatedly upvote the same comment. This is getting pathetic.

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Tell me about it. And same comments being repeated with different usernames.

I've been reading DB for years, and this is the first time I'm seeing rabid fans with the highest level of delusions.

From what I've seen so far, it seemed that Yunho fandom can't take jokes, or criticisms.

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Yes tell that to jyj stans who are working in gangs here.

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Yunho's always been a pretty persistent, determined, and hard-working guy. He was never considered to be a good singer but when DBSK turned into a two-man army, Yunho's singing improved tenfold, to the point where his vocal range had expanded to an extra octave. Now there are people who consider him to be a good singer.

With that kind of determination and dedication I'm sure he'll improve this time around. Though he may not be good at it, he does seem to really like acting. All the solo projects he would take up when DBSK is not active involved some kind of acting. (while Changmin did variety) I say give the guy another chance.

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He gets full mark for trying, no one is doubting that. Most of the comments here are for him to realize his own limitation and look instead at what he is strong in. liking to act and not being good or talented is totally different .

he is not the worst singer around but this is a very competitive industry, there are many who are better than him to make a solo career.

I am sure if he sit down and evaluate sincerely, he will be able to see where is the best options for him.

Personally, I don't think acting is his strong point to command a leading role. maybe a supporting role where he can further learn.

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He should be in the extended cast instead of part of the main cast imo. He should be in an extended cast in a daily drama to build up whatever it is that he's lacking.

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I'm pretty sure Yunho knows how bad he was and has read all the flak he got when he did HTTG/QOA, but considering that he's still taking up roles, it must mean that he's really determined to improve. He has managed to improve his singing in a similar manner so I can't see why he can't do that with acting. Besides, acting is not just a talent also a skill that one can attain through practice. Yunho barely has enough time to practice himself due to DBSK's tour schedules.

I do agree that maybe taking up smaller roles would be better (for him and for the audience lmfao) but considering that he's in such high demand overseas (specifically Japan) I can see why he was offered the lead role.

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And many worse singers were able to make it solo.Do you want names?

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I sometimes don't mind an idol actor, as long as they're servicable in a fanservice way. And most of those idol-actors know they aren't good, so they have a very easy going feel to them, doing their best as an object of fanservice for a drama.

However, Yunho seemed to me like he's trying hard to show that he's 'talented' as well. Which transcribes to, 'I'm trying really really hard, please believe me' all over his face in every one of his scenes. He cries when he is told to cry, I'm still traumatized by his hospital scene in yawang where his fans deemed as noteworthy. It was a very bad scene and the one who tried their best in that scene and Yawang was Soo Ae and Kwon Sang Woo.

Yunho is lucky to be in Yawang with Kwon Sang Woo and Soo Ae, they are veterans willing to help him out. Jung Il Woo is a young competitive actor, he has no patience for someone like Yunho. If he has to act around him, then he will probably has to.

Also, Yunho seemed to study acting through movies and dramas instead of with a real instructor. Instructors are there to teach you emotions and how to apply characteristics to a character to make them come to life, or at least somewhat of a person. Unless you're an observant person you can't learn that through dramas and movies. The reason I'm saying that Yunho seemed to study acting through movies and dramas is because his acting seemed to mimic certain characters in dramas instead of coming from him. If he still don't understand that an actor need to put his self in his character then he'll never get the acting down. He will continue to memorize his scripts and apply basic face expressions to them. He will walk when director tell him to walk, will talk when director tell him to talk. In short, he's an acting robot.

An acting robot without looks or presence ( charms ) to pull you in. Sure, Song Seung Hyun don't have the acting down, but he has the looks, and a strong presence, able to make him lead character. To say that he can't act isn't really right. SSH isn't a character actor, he's a commercial actor. He is able to put down basic emotions, emits a character presence without feeling robotic. Like I can buy that that's a person in that drama world, though a dramatic one with popping eyes, but yeah, he's a person for sure.

I can't get that with Yunho when I watch him. All I'm see is a damn cardboard, a possessed moving cardboard with a weird vocal. And it freaked me the f out that I had to go and watch something like Heartless City to clean out my system.

While I'm at this. So Yunho fans said he can sing. I went and search up some of his singing. OMG, what is this air that is attempting to sing? I had to go listen to Park Hyo Shin to clean my ears. OTL

And the dancing? All I'm seeing is waving arms like an octopus.

So am I supposed to like this boy because he's hardworking and is nice? So you're saying that all I have to do is work hard and be nice and I can be a...

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So I went off the 3k limit without realizing it.

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Wow! Very well written! Totally agreed! XD

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Look, I understand that he's your bias and it hurt seeing him getting criticized and 'bash', you want to justify his somewhat existent in this industry, but what's obvious is obvious and fact is fact. And the obvious fact is, that he sucks at acting. Actually it sounded like you are justifying your like for someone like him instead of justifying his role as an idol. It's alright, if you like him, then you like him whether it's for his hardworking, his kindness or his looks ( as looks is subjective ). It's alright to like all that without deluding yourself of his 'talents'. Kpop, kdrama, idols are there as an escape from real life.

Just so happened that some of us kdrama fans are similar and we just wanted to watch a drama without worrying about an 'actor' acting that makes us wanted to pull our hair out or shaking in fear of what he might do next that make us cringe and facepalm and traumatized.

Sorry that my comments are harsh, but this kid traumatized me too much. You can tell me to not watch it, but he's in my bias's dramas! Come on!

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If you think that he is not talented in kpop, you should see most of idols out there lmao.I guess that you don't know that tvxq duo is on top now when it comes to live perfomances and songs and dancing.There are only 2 or 3 groups like that in kpop.You're not even updated.Just stick to korean dramas please

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LOL your taste must sucks since many professionals praised his live singing and picked tvxq duo as best Mr removed singers.Fact.Go learn something about music and live performances instead of talking crap. TVXQ is a rare kpop group who does really well live.Everyone knows that.
And do you really think that everyone in kpop is nice ? lmao.Nice people are rare so don't them for granted so he is nice +hardworking+ talented and that's a fact my dear.
Putting him down won't change this truth

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some of the comments here are so childish...you can not like someone's acting, but to go out of your way to bash someone and ridicule them on a constant basis whenever they are cast in a drama is so disrespectful...there's a term for that and it's called CYBER BULLYING.

I respect Yunho so much for not letting all these haters with nothing else better to do, put him down and make him give up on one of his passions. To me, you don't have to be great at something in order to love doing it or to keep wanting to improve in it...others that put you down are just losers themselves who don't appreciate hard work and determination...there's a difference between constructive criticism and flat out being mean.

Yawang had very high ratings and Yunho won an acting award last year...but of course the haters aren't even acknowledging that and want to pretend it never happened.

There are definately some JYJ stans here as well that are fueling the fire while others are easily taking the bait...it's ridiculous really.

Now that Yunho has been cast, it also seals the deal that this drama will get sold overseas and make lots of money and we have him to thank for that.

Lastly, to all those ppl that are saying they're "fans" and still bash Yunho are NOT true fans....there's a difference between acknowledging that he has weaknesses that need improvement vs. going out of your way to say that you're a fan but still post a whole bunch of negative things about YH's acting here where you know he already gets enough hate as it is.

I'd rather see bad comments from ppl that actually have the guts to admit they just don't like Yunho or are anti-fans vs ppl that pretend to "mean well" but are really just here to join in with the bullying cuz they don't have enough courage to do the right thing.

Am proud of how far Yunho has come from HTTG to Yawang and I look forward to seeing even more improvements in his new drama.

Sorry for the rant, but I just had to get that off my chest.

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So are we childish to voice our criticisms and opinions now?

Cyber bullying? On criticizing an idol that can't act? The one who's doing cyber bullying here is that user 'atraxiya' going around calling everyone stupid before those comments get deleted by Admins.

"There are definately some JYJ stans here as well that are fueling the fire while others are easily taking the bait…it’s ridiculous really."

I keep seeing this whenever there are criticisms for Yunho instead of accepting it that he is bad, and that there are people who get exposed to him that aren't JYJ fans. Or that they used to be TVXQ fans that are now drama fans so they know the history and is seeing Yoochun and Jaejoong doing well in their acting so they compared.

Comparison happened when all of these people were in the same group. No one is fueling this. If your bias is bad, then he's bad and people will make fun of him, people are cynical on the internet and on this site. Learn to accept criticisms, jokes, sarcasm and snides if you going to frequent this site to read about your bias.

Yunho should thank the production team and Jung Il Woo and his fandom right now, and not the other way around. The effing entitlement. Disgusting.

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Lol....you're one of them...going around here defending everyone that is bashing and going against the few who are not afraid to stand up for Yunho....bravo.

Him not being able to act is a personal opinion...it does not justify being mean just cuz you can sit behind a computer screen and not have consequences for it.

I wouldn't be surprised if you're a JYJ fan yourself...with all the praising of YC and JJ that you do despite low ratings, etc. Now that they're no longer in the same group, what's the need to compare then? Isn't the main purpose of that to rub salt into the wound?

LOL...your logic of "If enough ppl think he's bad, everything that anyone says about him is deemed appropriate and we should just all accept it" is disgusting....it's ppl like you that cause others in this world to have such low self-esteem, depression, thoughts of suicide, etc.

Why in the world should Yunho thank Jung Il-Woo and his fans? What have they ever done for him? Please explain cuz I can't think of any reason.

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WHAT? One of them? One of whom? This is like my first time coming out of lurking to comment because you Yunho fans pissed me off with the harrassment all over this post.

"Him not being able to act is a personal opinion…it does not justify being mean just cuz you can sit behind a computer screen and not have consequences for it."

... HAHAHAHA OMG, this is comedy gold. So are you saying that I should mute myself if I have an opinion of him being bad at acting? Then what the heck is critics for?

Praising? Where the heck did I praise Jaejoong and Yoochun? I'm going from comments of what I'm reading while watching everyone dramas in order to form my own thoughts. And they are decent at acting. Please don't tell me that you think Yunho is on the same level of acting as Yoochun and Jaejoong? It is because they were in the same group that it's easier for people to lump them together, it's call a 'connection'.

And if you are going to go the low rating route to justify someone acting skill. Then I supposed Lee Bum Soo is also a bad actor since PM&I has low ratings. Kwon Sang Woo is also bad at acting because Medical Top Team also got low ratings. Lee Jun Ki also bad at acting because Hero has low ratings. Yoon Eun Hye is also bad at acting because Marry Him If You Dare got low ratings. Moon Geun Young is also bad because some of her dramas has low ratings. Jang Geun Suk is also bad because almost all of his has bad ratings. Kim Myung Min is also bad at acting because his dramas has low ratings. Jisung is also bad at acting because The Great Seer got low rating for a sageuk. Kim Nam Gil is also bad at acting because Bad Guy has low ratings. I don't need to go on do I, because this would go out of 3k limit.

Wow, so only Yunho is daebak, someone give this kid an Oscar, he moved ratings!

"“If enough ppl think he’s bad, everything that anyone says about him is deemed appropriate and we should just all accept it”"

WHAT? Don't put words into my mouth when I never say that. You form that in your own head. I formed my opinions of him from watching him act and dance and listening to him sings from clips that you guys, his fans linked to!

"is disgusting….it’s ppl like you that cause others in this world to have such low self-esteem, depression, thoughts of suicide, etc."

... I can't even O_O, I didn't know my comment can affect that much to Yunho. I hope he quit acting if he reads my comment.

"Why in the world should Yunho thank Jung Il-Woo and his fans? What have they ever done for him? Please explain cuz I can’t think of any reason."

Because Yunho is going to give Jung Il Woo a tough time in this project, it's bad enough he has to shoulder some newbies in this project, now he has to shoulder Yunho on this one.

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If you still don't get this post, you don't have to reply. Because I'm getting the feeling that I'll be going circles with you. You just showed me the highest level of delusion as well as an amazing spin doctor. ( spin doctor is someone who spins topics around to get to another topic, in short, putting words in people mouth, if you don't get the sarcasm )

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By one of them, I meant "childish", "bully", etc. Just re-read your posts and you'll understand where I'm coming from...all of them have some sort of negative bashing in it.

Now look who's putting words in someone's mouth...I never said to mute yourself...just not be mean...and like I said, you can give constructive criticism without so much hate.

Again, your feelings of other actors being decent at acting is a personal opinion...it's not a fact just cuz you believe it's true...but am not taking anything away from JaeChun here...I've always thought that YC had the most potential even in their DBSK days.

Just cuz they use to be in the same group, doesn't mean ppl should put one side up in order to one side down....again, childish.

And no, I never said that good acting = high ratings (so your long rant was a waste)...I'm just trying to point out that some ppl are so focused on one aspect that they tend to have selective reading/memory and put others on too high of a pedestal without looking at the flaws and vice versa.

I quote: "If your bias is bad, then he’s bad and people will make fun of him...Learn to accept criticisms, jokes, sarcasm and snides"...you're basically implying that if someone is bad at something, learn to accept all the bashing that ppl throw at him...so no, I didn't put words in your mouth.

Hence why I'm so glad that Yunho isn't into social networking...I'm sure these haters will gladly cyber bully him on there...don't pretend that artists don't read netizens' comments online cuz they do..and yes, they DO get very hurt by them.

Again with the bashing...will you ever just own up to your own actions and stop acting all defensive and surprised when I call you out on it?

Don't worry, I'm sure Jung Il-Woo and his fanbase will be happy when the show gets sold to the overseas market due to Yunho's popularity...they won't have to worry about not being paid, etc.

You put a whole bunch of words in my mouth and not the other way around...I'm reacting alot more calmly about it than you are though...I guess it's due to maturity level *sigh*

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'Yunho fans pissed me off with the harrassment all over this post. '
LMAO THE IRONY.I bet that some jyj stan told you to comment here or maybe you are just an SM anti.blind haters

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Is a lost battle, whatever you say that is not praising yunho will make you a hater and automatically a JYJ fan.
At least, even in their delusion they admit that the only reason he got casted is because he is popular.
But it sucks that unless he really improves (not the so called improvement of his previous drama that was some really bad acting again) people will keep commenting on how bad he is...
And they can keep calling everyone a jyj fan but for how long can they excuse any critizim that way?

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aside from sheils1010, I think when some commenters here mentioned "jyj fans" they are differentiating between the commenters who criticise yunho solely because of this drama and his acting and the "jyj fans" who came because of a call to action on other social media. this post about yunho's acting is an opportunity for the latter group to use in order to voice their disdain for him. (not all jyj fans are like this, but there are many that really hates yunho for reasons but his acting)

the former group is straight forward and it is all about criticising his acting. the latter group will never fail to mention jyj in order to make yunho look worst off, and they will also take the opportunity to thrash his other skills as well.

some commenters, e.g. like pungpung, seems to think it is not possible, but if you were part of the intense ugly kpop fanwar after the lawsuit, it is very very possible that it does happen still even though it is already 2014. :/

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Are you sure? Because my impression is the opposite.
You can easily recognize a bunch of Yunho fans who have been extremely rude btw jumping into anyone who critizise him. It is clear that they as a group of people jumped into this thread . So I get the impression that they are the ones who came because of a call to action on other social media.
Not going to deny the fan war and bad blood between the both groups as is evident here lol but not everyone who thinks yoochun is better actor than yunho is by default a jyj fan. And also not everyone who thinks yunho is not an amazing singer MUST be a jyj fan.

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it is my impression that the yunho fans who were here on this thread defending him, both the ones who were doing so passionately and the ones who were rude, were defending him in threads that seemed to be targeting him for more than his acting.

"And also not everyone who thinks yunho is not an amazing singer MUST be a jyj fan."

true, but after having gone through years of the whole lawsuit debacle, it becomes easy recognizing the objective comments and the passive-aggressive ones, or even the ones that were just made out of hate where yunho is concerned. like, i was fine with majority of the comments here criticising him because it is what it is. but i did side-eyed a few disparaging comments because their intent, the tone, the wording were suspect to me.

ig we just have different perceptions of this. it's ok.

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@ElizabethB: Pls don't generalize....I said "some", not "all"....the ironic thing tho is that I see many ppl here saying that if you're defending YH, then you MUST be a biased YH fan....I don't see you pointing out those ppl so wouldn't you call that double standards?

And when does being "popular" suddenly become a bad thing or something to be frowned upon? Some ppl here just want to hate and bash YH so much that even his popularity can be manipulated into something negative O_O

By the way, pointing out that there are some antis/jyj stans here that just want to criticize YH for the sake of being antis does NOT equal giving excuses or being unable to accept that he needs to improve....though once again, I dont' see you pointing out that some ppl here who actually are looking forward to YH's acting can actually be normal kpop drama watchers as well and not just some "dellusional" TVXQ fangirl....again with the double standards.

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@sheils1010 It's manipulative to call criticism "cyber bullying" just to tell people to shut up and and censor themselves. Even in Korean articles that Yunho might actually read, he's encountered far worse criticisms and despite all that, he still insists upon foisting his unwanted presence into dramaland. Fans may call it determination and persistence but at this point, how about we call it what it really is: greed. He wants the glory despite having been given repeated chances to prove himself and he failed.

Also, I don't know why you're saying he won an acting award for his role in Ambition because he didn't. Normally a Hallyu star would at least be nominated for MBC Drama Awards' Best Newcomer but Yunho didn't receive a nomination and his only award for that drama role was a People's Choice Award that was voted for him by his fans.

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He is too strong.I admire him for that.He won that award because he had more fans than many actors including Lee minho

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I actually find it manipulative to justify bullying by giving the excuse that you're just "criticizing"...there's a fine line and if you carefully read majority of the comments here, many definately HAVE crossed that line.

Again, stating that ppl should express their thoughts in a nicer way doesn't = shut up and don't give your opinion.

I admire Yunho for not giving up and I've seen the improvements....your opinion on him being "unwanted" in dramaland is once again a personal opinion..pls don't generalize like many here have opted to do...there are many who are excited but just don't bother to get involved in all the drama caused by bashers out there.

ROFL!!..."glory"?....does it look like he's getting glory by acting? that just shows how ignorant you are about his main purpose for wanting to act.

And I don't know what your definition of "failure" is...but his last drama where it had high ratings and he won a Popularity Award definately doesn't fall into that category....plus Yunho did get a nomination for Best Newcomer award in the past...again, ignorant and yet still very willing to judge.

Don't try to belittle the efforts of fans when it comes to voting....many actors are very happy to win Ppl's Choice Award and I salute YH for getting it...You can't last in the acting field (or any entertainment field) without fans no matter how good of an actor you are....Not sure why you're trying to imply that getting that award is somewhat unworthy compared to other awards -_-'

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