Heirs: Episode 11

516 November 13, 2013January 24, 2016

by javabeans

Some secrets are discovered by those previously out of the loop and more feelings are expressed amongst our flock of confused young lovebirds, but by and large we’re dealing with more of the same. That means that things pretty much play out the way we expect, inasmuch as we’ve already seen them happen, oh, about a half-dozen times already in previous episodes.

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EPISODE 11 RECAP

Tan arrives at the campgrounds after all and starts looking for Eun-sang. She’s currently being harassed/romanced by Young-do (which in his book is pretty much the same thing), who forces a hug. I almost thought he might mean it, but he’s staring straight at Tan while he does it, hammering in this drama’s recurring motif about this fight over Rag Doll Eun-sang to really be a dick-waving contest between two caveman heirs. GUH.

And then he hammers that in some more by telling Tan to tell Eun-sang for him that he likes her, because she’ll believe it more coming from Tan. Supposedly.

Hyo-shin has driven Tan to the camp, and Rachel storms up and lets herself into the car, assuming they’re headed back to Seoul. The two guys aren’t a part of the class trip so they’ve booked a hotel room nearby, and Rachel forces her presence upon them while demanding to know whether Tan spoke to Eun-sang.

The guys pay her little mind, and Hyo-shin refuses to be kicked out of his own room just so Rachel can pester Tan alone. But because her harping about Eun-sang is so incessant, Hyo-shin ends up leaving anyway out of distaste. I feel that feel.

Rachel reminds Tan that their engagement is a Big Effing Deal between their families and businesses, warning that his feelings have no power. He knows that, “And that’s why it’s driving me crazy.” That just pisses her off more, and she stomps out before he can suggest they break the agreement.

Eun-sang returns to her tent to find that a gossiping session is underway inside, with a trio of mean girls already aware of Young-do hugging her. They paint Eun-sang as the flirt/slut/vixen out to steal their menfolk, and it sounds like Ye-sol’s leading the charge, the girl with the crush on Young-do, which gives her words extra bite.

Young-do comes up behind her and pulls her hood up, telling her not to listen or be hurt by those words. Then he takes the girls’ shoes and drops them in a tub of water, saying that he’s getting revenge on her behalf. She points out that she’s going to be the one on the hook for that, but he tells her that anything’s easier than explaining why she’s living in the same house as Tan, which he’s deduced by now.

He tells her not to worry too much about it since he won’t be digging into it, “And whatever questions I ask of you, don’t answer. If you answer, I can’t ask anymore.” And that… is pretty much the perfect example of the logic characterizing this drama.

Young-do points out that she can’t answer the question anyway, and rattles off his five possibilities for explanations: (1) She’s the daughter to the family, (2) or daughter-in-law, (3) some kind of relative, (4) live-in maid, or (5) live-in tutor. None of those make sense, so he’s left wondering.

He comes to one last question: “Do you really like Kim Tan?” Is this the question you want her to answer, or the one you don’t? Eun-sang replies, “Yeah,” though, and I think that actually hurts his feelings, if in fact he has any. He slaps a smile on his face and warns her not to do anything about the drenched shoes.

Rachel’s mother finds Young-do’s father at a bar, in the arms of a scantily clad hostess. Skirt-chasing is pretty much his perpetual state but he bothers to use the “This is for business” line, which fools nobody. They have a clipped argument about his plan to release their wedding news without consulting her, but she’s distracted to see a familiar mom from the PTA in the same bar.

It’s Ye-sol’s mother, who also happens to be Madam Han’s saturi-speaking friend, and she gets identified as Madam Park. Now, we’ve been using “madam” for the other ladies in the sense of a woman being mistress of the house, but they’re using madam in the other sense here.

Tan shows up back at camp to pull Eun-sang aside, taking her for a walk through the woods. She follows warily until they get to a secluded alcove lit by string lights with a cozy trailer, though he scoffs that the setup was already here and not of his design.

He wraps her in his coat and sits her in front of the fire to give her two choices: They can both sleep warmly inside the trailers, or out here in the cold. Leaving is not an option, “since I won’t let you go.” Said the serial killer. Oh wait, wrong drama. (Or is it.)

She smiles and says she doesn’t want him to let her go, which stops him short, because he was expecting a fight. That says a lot about this relationship, doesn’t it? She explains that she felt like she had a lot of reasons for calling him earlier, but now she thinks it was because she missed him.

He gapes and wonders at the personality transplant, but Eun-sang explains that they’re away from home, and just for one more day she’ll “escape into a midsummer night’s dream.”

So she rests her head on his shoulder… though she quips that it’s less comfortable than expected. He tells her that it’s not her head she’s supposed to lean on him, but her heart.

They look up at the stars, and he says she’d better not ask for any of them. Until she says that Chan-young does it for Bo-na, and then Tan changes his tune: “Which one?”

She sighs that the mood feels just like Friday the 13th, and he complains about her tendency to inject horror into melo. No kidding. She says she likes horror because it makes her unhappiness seem trifling by comparison, an he asks if he’s one of those sources of unhappiness. She declines to answer.

In the wee hours, they head back to camp, tone back to light bickering. She reminds him of the Hollywood sign that seemed so close despite its distance, and likens him to that, saying that when they’re holding hands like this she sometimes forgets that.

Now she answers his question about unhappiness, and says that he’s not one of them—amidst her various misfortunes, he’s one good fortune. “That’s enough for me,” she tells him. “I’ve awakened from my dream. That’s how I can survive. I’m sorry.”

With that, she pulls her hand from his. He grabs it back. “How much closer do I have to get for you to believe me?” he asks. “You’ve never arrived, so don’t use the excuse that it’s far.”

By the time the others are up and getting ready for the day, news has spread of Tan’s arrival in the night. The facts have become distorted by incomplete facts and everyone assumes Rachel’s absence is due to Tan, and Ye-sol makes a dig at Eun-sang.

I guess the “roughing it” aspect was only for a night, because now the class heads over to the hotel for a leadership seminar. Rachel’s already there, and shoots Eun-sang her usual eye-daggers. The class runs into Tan and Hyo-shin as they head to breakfast, and Eun-sang plays it cool, scurrying past to eat alone. Young-do takes note.

Hearing that Tan shared rooms with Hyo-shin is a blow to Rachel—she’s been playing along with their assumption of a romantic night out—but one I can’t really care about since Rachel has been such an unbudging pain in the butt. Young-do makes a barb about Tan juggling girls, and Eun-sang leaves the room, having heard enough.

Young-do follows her out, Tan watches through the window, and Rachel mutters at him to stop looking. Outside, Young-do pulls his patented trip-and-catch maneuver, smiles down at Eun-sang… and then lets go. She falls right into the pool.

Tan bolts up from his chair, ordering everyone to stay put and not come out. Oh, I give the class about two seconds before they do just that.

“Sorry, my hand slipped,” Young-do says. God, you ass. Apparently he’s proving a point, though, saying, “What I just did to you is what Kim Tan will do to you in the future. Pretending to hold, but letting go in the end.” Yes, because it was so kind of you to demonstrate rather than saying words. So he advises her to let go first and move away: “I’m saying this for your own good.”

Eun-sang bites out, “I know already. You’re dead now. I mean it.”

Just as Young-do’s laughing at that, Tan comes up behind him and shoves him into the pool. “Sorry, my foot slipped.”

Young-do just laughs, saying he feels like he won. When Tan offers a hand to Eun-sang, Young-do taunts him with his “concubine” secret.

Hyo-shin has had it up to HERE with their immature antics, which makes me think he’s the only sane one in this show, and storms in to separate the two fools. Then Chan-young and Bo-na join them, and Bo-na jumps to offer her hand to prevent her boyfriend from extending his, which cracks me up. (When Young-do advises Eun-sang to not catch a cold, Bo-na retorts, “Don’t listen to him. Just catch a cold.” Ha.)

Hyo-shin comes home to a furious mother, having not told her of his overnight plans. She’s more upset that he blew off a college interview, though he reminds her that he’d never promised to go to it, and also that he doesn’t want to go to law school. She asks what’s wrong with him, and Hyo-shin turns to her with tears in his eyes, saying bitterly that it sure took her a long time to bother asking that. “Do you want to know why I collected sleeping pills, why I took them?” he asks. His mother tells him to tell her after entrance exams are over, dismissing him.

At the Kim household, the wife goes to confront the concubine and gets the maid instead. Mom freezes when her Director Jung demands to see her notepad, since it contains all manner of incriminating notes. Madam Han arrives to step between them, sizes up the situation, and hisses at Mom, “Run!” Ha.

Mom does as ordered, stuffing memos into her mouth to eat the evidence. These two. Best couple in this drama.

Director Jung is furious, having found out about the photographer put on her tail—they took photos to her and offered to sell for double the price Madam Han would pay. Madam Han suggests ending the strife by getting the family registry in order, but Director Jung retorts that she’s overshooting her place and warns that she’ll find out just how rock-bottom she is in due time.

Now Madam Han realizes the notebooks are a threat, and sits down to negotiate with Mom over the cost to buy them, HA. I love Mom for playing hardball, and she fetches a nice price for the lot.

News hits of the unholy alliance between Rachel’s mother and Young-do’s father, which gives rise to more gossip at school. Rachel is desperate enough to suggest that the quickest way to prevent the wedding is for the kids to date, but Young-do rejects that out of hand: “I’ve started to like someone.”

Kids congratulate Rachel while snickering behind her back, and Tan finds her as she’s trying not to cry. He tries to lend a friendly hand of comfort, and Eun-sang passes by to see them together.

Young-do comes up all smiles and quips, but Eun-sang offers him consolation too, asking if he’s all right. That just about floors him. She offers to delay her promise to punish him, conceding that at the end of the day, he is just an 18-year-old boy.

Tan finds Eun-sang in the broadcasting room listening to music, and barricades her into the booth (aw, young romance) before speaking to her over the mic. He confides that he’s lived with so many misunderstandings that can’t be set straight that when he comes in contact with one that can, he does his best to do so. So he clarifies that the scene just now with Rachel was one of friendship, and that he’s sorry he didn’t help her out of the pool—he didn’t want to make things worse in front of everyone, but he regrets.

Last but not least, he demands to know what she was saying to Young-do, going from thoughtful and mature almost-boyfriend to pouting boy in a split second. Ha. She rolls her eyes and gets up to leave, whereupon she encounters his barricade and makes a gibe at his last-place ranking.

Young-do picks an old haunt for after-school snacks, where the wall is covered in teenage wishes and comments. He tells Myung-soo that this is where it all started: “Where I lost everything.”

A flashback to middle school shows Tan trying to take Young-do aside, even after he’d been rebuffed multiple times by barbs about being illegitimate. Young-do had sneered anyway, and Tan had warned, “You’re going to regret this moment for the rest of your life.”

Asked what he’d lost, Young-do replies, “Mom. Friend.” Myung-soo wonders dimly, “You lost your mother’s friend?”

Won finds Manager Yoon brooding over today’s news release and asks why he gave up Rachel’s mother. Manager Yoon asks why Won chose to let Hyun-joo go, and Won replies that he hasn’t broken up with her—he put Jeguk first, and next is Hyun-joo. Manager Yoon points out, “That is a choice. Why do you think they’ll wait for us?”

Won gets a surprise visit from his stepmother, and is startled at her reminder that Tan’s birthday is approaching… and in this family that likely means that Chairman Dad is about to transfer some stock in Tan’s name. And if that happens, Tan may challenge Won as Jeguk’s largest shareholder.

Won wonders why she’d clue him in, and she calls it maternal affection, though I’d bet it’s a lot more about putting a certain concubine in her place. Won orders Manager Yoon to look into it, only to be told that Manager Yoon himself is the one who holds the most stock (in his name but under the chairman’s control).

These revelations are quite a blow to Won, and put him on edge as he looks around at his staff, wondering who here is positioned against him. Sad day.

Eun-sang tries to sneak past Tan’s room while on an errand but gets pulled inside, where he warns that walking away will get a hug and talking back will get a kiss. Is it crazier that he’s using them as threats, or that with a girl like Eun-sang these actually are threats?

Tan leans in close flirtatiously, but today Madam Han actually spots the cozy scene from the hallway and immediately guesses something’s up between them. She starts to rip into Eun-sang for overstepping, and Tan jumps to her defense, saying that Eun-sang is in a bind enough already over the fact that he likes her.

He orders his mother not to treat Eun-sang that way and sends her out, speaking calmly as Madam Han flips out over his romantic distraction and how he should be focused on the fact that Won is running the business.

Tan points out, “That’s his rightful place. All those things that you want—don’t tell me to bring them to you. Nobody can decide for me what I must have or who I should love. Don’t decide for me—I’ll decide for myself.”

He asks for her support, but she doesn’t look to be in much of a supportive mood. Madam Han beelines for Mom to rip into her for raising her daughter wrong and daring to enter the young master’s room. Mom signs back at her boss that Eun-sang was wrong to enter Tan’s room, but it’s Tan who’s always looking for Eun-sang. Eun-sang has to translate the signing, and lies that Mom is full of apologies.

Tan bursts in to pull his mother out as she shrills at Mom to move out immediately. Eun-sang apologizes for putting her mother in that position, but Mom signs back that she’s sorry for being unable to speak up in her defense. Eun-sang cries, “No, I’m sorry for liking him.”

Mom suggests that they move out, saying that they can do whatever they can to find a way. Eun-sang cries that if at all possible she wants to move schools and homes. Mom says they’ll move out as soon as they can.

Tan barrages Eun-sang with pleading messages to meet in the wine cellar, all of which go ignored. Her room is empty, and he asks her mother after her. He bolts outside to track her down, but misses her on her way to spend the night with a “friend.”

And then Eun-sang calls Bo-na. HA. Funny how this is my favorite thing so far about this episode. Bo-na turns her down flat, but Eun-sang only has to suggest “Then should I call Chan-young…” for Bo-na to spit out her address at her.

Once there, Bo-na demands to know all the details, and Eun-sang admits that Bo-na’s not so bad, “Though I cursed you a lot.”

“That’s okay,” Bo-na returns. “I cursed you more.” She wonders about the fake Mom who showed up to the PTA meeting, but decides not to hear it, “Since it feels like we’d have to be friends then.”

Tan spends his night waiting for a call that doesn’t come, and Eun-sang arrives at school so early in the morning that the gates aren’t open. She heads off to buy breakfast and runs into Young-do at a convenience store, where he offers her his extensive knowledge of convenience store foods for the best pick. Asked why he eats so much of it, he replies that it’s something you can eat alone without seeming weird for it, which earns him some pity in her eyes.

Young-do and Eun-sang head back to school, waiting at an intersection just as Tan’s car pulls up. He sees them standing together across the way, though Eun-sang remains completely oblivious (why ruin a good pattern?).

Young-do offers her a way to escape Tan and yanks her close to sling an arm around her, all for Tan’s benefit.

He says he’s curious to see how Tan will react, and it’s only now that she looks up to see him watching. The light turns green, and everyone starts walking. As they pass each other in the middle of the road, Tan grabs Eun-sang’s wrist (guh), and Young-do grabs his wrist to stop the Rag Doll transfer.

Eun-sang pulls her wrist free, dealing Tan a blow, and says miserably, “I can’t do this anymore. I’m sorry.”

Tan apologizes, holding out a hand to her: “I can’t promise that it’ll get easier, but let’s go together anyway. Holding hands.”

Young-do warns her not to take that hand.

COMMENTS

Where’s a Truck of Doom when you really want one? This love triangle, I swear. It’s not the intrinsic setup that is problematic, but the sheer repetition that makes me roll my eyes—when everything just happens over and over again, nothing lands with any emotional weight. At this point I don’t even expect any episodes to NOT begin and end with a three-way tug of war, but lordy wouldn’t it be refreshing if the writer could invent a new plot point.

Not only do we have to deal with the fact that the same things keep going ’round in circles—with new set dressing to try to confuse us into thinking something’s actually different this time—we have to deal with this exact same plotline in no less than three relationships. I could maybe see the argument that this drama is purposely repeating history from the older generation in the younger generation, if only the older characters were used as a type of cautionary tale, or a source of learning from one’s mistakes. Only they’re just standing there making the same mistakes as their kids, with about the same level of maturity. Surely we don’t need to see the same beats play out in the same configuration for every single character.

So let’s see, we have Rachel’s mother, Chan-young’s father, Young-do’s father, Won, Hyun-joo, Rachel, Tan, Young-do, Eun-sang: Is it really too much to ask that the writer think up more than one story among nine characters? A slow story is one thing, especially if the languid movement is part of the stylistic choice of the show—there’s a dreaminess to the pacing and mood that might even support that argument. But lack of a story just makes me wonder, What’s the point?

On the upside, I was pleased to see Tan step it up with his mother and face her honestly about taking charge of his own decisions, although given Madam Han’s impotence in the household I don’t really feel that stand to be very powerful. (Saying it to Dad, on the other hand, might Mean Something.) Even so, this engagement albatross is, while necessary as a point of conflict, becoming a bigger and bigger narrative drag. What will it take for the unwanted third parties to get a clue and step aside, especially when they never had a legitimate shot in the first place?

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51 Islandgal

November 13, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Another good episode though the action was a little slower. Still enjoying the show though XD

Thoughts

KT and ES out in the woods alone, middle of the night......she falls asleep. *Crickets*......sigh somebody help this girl. Good to see her finally reciprocating a bit though lol

Rachel - big talk about how things are in rich families but then crying in the corner. Even first class bitches have feelings huh?

CY - too cute love him
HS - love him too , stop being a wimp tho

Won- take off your shirt or something cos I am yet to see your purpose in this drama except to hate Tan.

YD -first episode where I didn't totally hate his guts. I kinda like the way he talks too lol some of his comments are hilarious. Deserved that KT kick though, I cracked up when he went flying BAM lol

Bo Na - love her character, she keeps it real.

KT mom- so you had a kid for a married guy, but now you want to act like KT is off limits to ES. Off limits married guy didn't stop you , now did it? What a bitch...

KT- you need a strategy dude .....and better fitting school uniform pants. Boss kick tho ..BAM lol

ES- difficult situation so get some back bone girl you will need it. Oh and sexy guy comes a long way to see you, middle of the night , sleep is not what you do ...well not right away anyway XD

Thanks for the recap!

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PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Love, love, love York character descriptions! Especially Won's. (Loosens threads holding buttons on :) )

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jaglaine

November 14, 2013 at 3:51 AM

Crisp and succinct, Islandgal! Now, if only they would turn LMH into his usual gorgeous self, I think there'd be plenty less negatives here. KWB being his usual gorgeous self is making the fans happy, even though Young-do is an ass. Ha-ha!

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52 PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Thanks Javabeans for the recap. It sounds like you might need to spike your drink when you watch this. I do. :)

This is the first episode that really aggravated me. I still loved a good chunk of it, but when we start off with Tan accusing Eun Sang of getting close to Young Do when he clearly saw that it was Young Do messing with him (Tan) I get a little pissed. (drink). Then Eun Sang just goes off into the woods with Tan without an apology for his rudeness because he looks at her with puppy dog eyes. (2 drinks- serial killer setup like Javabeans mentioned). Rachel, (sigh-drink) is growing up to be just like her mom. :( I can only hope her mom will call off the wedding (at the last moment- ep 19) and they can go into therapy to discover what a loving relationship is.

What made it fun was the moms' first two scenes (eating the paper- lol), and of course all of Bo Na's scenes. She is to cute! (Parched throat from chuckling - drinksies)

I have to say in some ways Tan and Young Do seemed to grow up. Especially Young Do , his interactions with Eun Sang were really great, even when he dropped her in the pool. His eyes and facial expressions seemed to say a lot. I was happy that both of them started saying what they think and feel to the people who need to be told. Also, I really felt that most of the time they did act like regular teenagers.

Ok, I'm not going to dissect anymore, since I generally watch this to chill. Off to read everyone else's comments. :)

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53 vanillasalt

November 13, 2013 at 10:05 PM

These high school kids need to smoke a joint or something, they're way too into other peoples relationships and who has more money than them. Like, jeez just focus on ur studies and your own life. Who gives a frick if Tan and Eun sang like each other? They need to go back to america.

I also want to know what happened to Eun Sang's sister? are they just gonna leave it as is? that she ran away and is kinda a whore?

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Pela

November 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Second this! They all just need to chillax!

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54 hanabi

November 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

This show is rather slow moving. I'm having a hard time keeping interest in it. I want more scenes with ES's mom and KT's mom. They're quite the pair - loved the scene where ES's mom was running away eating her notes. So cute.

I appear to be in the minority because I don't have as much of a problem with Young Do as everyone else seems to. Yes, he is a jerk, and has major bully issues. But I honestly don't see that much difference in him from Gu Jun Pyo/Domyouji. I only watched a bit of BOF because HYD has a special place in my heart, so I'm going more off the Domyouji characterization. He was a complete jerk - he used his power to bully kids and make them transfer, just like Young Do. And for goodness sake he hired kids to sexually assault Makino. That's low. But GJP/Domyouji doesn't seem to get the kind of negative reaction that Young Do does even though they're really similar characters, both in action and motivation.

I kind of wish that YD would change and soften because of ES, just like Domyouji did because of Makino. And Kim Tan is boring. I really don't see much chemistry between him and ES other than extending staring/watching from a distance.

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modest-goddess

November 15, 2013 at 9:23 AM

yeah a lot of people have made the comparison between Youngdo and Gu Jun Pyo/Domyouji with Tan being the Heirs equivalent of Jihoo/Rui. The different reactions to the bullying seem to be based on who is the main character/guaranteed to get the girl and who is the 2nd lead. As someone who had no prior familiarity with the story line before watching BOF I was very angry at GJP and unable to forgive him. I found the drama entertaining but that whole fall in love with your former bully thing never made any sense to me.

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55 appleseye

November 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Forgive me for saying this, but I feel that (for me) Heirs has been a disappointment. When I approached this drama and heard about the stars it was casting, I was filled with excitement- Park Shin Hye, Lee Min Ho, and Kim Woo Bin in one drama?! This work could not disappoint- after all, its cast was too famous and talented for it to leave room for flaws. I expected a quirky, yet intelligent and addictive drama (perhaps like the vibe of SSK) with unusual yet filled out characters. Instead, I am faced with a dull, conventional work that seems to be the drama of all the cliche high school dramas put together. The characters are all flat and stereotypical to the point of being ridiculous, and with the exception of one or two, they all seem to be little, immature children acting on impulse and using cardboard swords to batter each other. The "high school" students of the drama are ridiculously dumbed down, and show not an ounce of common sense or maturity. Although some characters such as Bona, Mom, and Madame are quirky and lovable, it seems impossible to like the rest. Eun Sang just seems like a blank, weak-headed stereotypical girl who , aside from her brief sassy moments, doesn't have the basic ability to stand up for herself. Like javabeans and girlfriday aptly described, Tan and Young-do are like brainless Neanderthals bumping chests and hurling Eun sang back and forth to exhibit their power. There's supposed to be "romance"/"chemistry, yet the moments are so unintentionally creepy/out of tone that it is impossible to render them so. How can appearing out of nowhere/ watching from a CCTV/ forcibly hugging/kissing be considered romantic? I think I will stick with Answer Me.

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Adeline

November 14, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Yeah, I keep wondering how this drama could have turned out to be so boring...

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56 Zfih

November 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM

what kind of dumb-a@@ love triangle is that?!

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:00 AM

roflmao

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57 sayit

November 13, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I am not a fan of Woo Bin but now I am starting to get his appeal. For a creature who is so unlikeable, he managed to set sail so many YD-ES ships. Since ES wears the same prey like expression no matter who she is paired with, I think it is Woo Bin who makes the difference. His talent is wasted in this drama and god knows why he picked this up. If it's for popularity, I must say he is doing well, very well in fact for a 2nd lead and a character like Young Do. IMO, he needs to stop playing another bad boy role for his career sake. Like at one point, I thought all Yoo Ah In could do was play a rebellious teen. Likewise, Woo Bin should do something else for a change. How about an antithesis? Geek? Goody-two-shoes? That's will be fun.

For those who say LMH is wasted here, I think not. I read somewhere that he wants to play a schoolboy role before he enters army. Not sure if it's true.

I think LMH's female co-stars have always been blamed for failing to ignite chemistry with LMH. From Koo Hye Sun to Son Ye Jin to Park Min Young to Kim Hee Sun and now Park Shin Hye. So if I am PSH, I won't feel too bad about it. But I must say, LMH and PSH looked much better in that still which was released before the drama started.

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Moonbean

November 13, 2013 at 10:33 PM

If they don't give KWB a lead role after this they don't have any foresight. There may be truth in the comments that this drama was the wrong choice for LMH, PSH, CJH and all the others but it definitely was not wrong for KWB. He is the standout in the crowd and even though the drama is average it will only help KWB's career.

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boms

November 14, 2013 at 1:07 AM

I cannot wait for the day when Kim Woobin gets a lead role...

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sayit

November 14, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Maybe he took this thinking that it will surely boost his popularity starring beside LMH and PSH and at the same time confident that he can upstage everyone despite the horrid character he has to play? If there is anything good in this drama, it's Woo Bin. Thank goodness Yong Hwa turned this down. Not that he is bad because the boy has improved by leaps and bounds in Mirae's Choice. However, I can't imagine him playing Young Do. Interestingly, in this week's episode where his character in Mirae's Choice had developed with more depth, I could see him doing well if he had played Kim Tan. Yong Hwa is so believable playing a guy smitten and in love.

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Pakykul

November 14, 2013 at 3:09 AM

Agree for comment about Yong Hwa.

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djeedjes

November 14, 2013 at 3:56 AM

Woo Bin got a "meaty" role in a movie "Friend 2", which is great for him...
it's better to get a 2nd lead role in high profile movie like this than to get a lead role in a rom com drama, IMO.

But yes, I wish he can diversify to other kind of characters, not only acting as bad boy..

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Charmaine

November 14, 2013 at 3:14 AM

Ooooo... Why blame it on the actresses only? Hihi

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58 Lislakia

November 13, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Thank for the recap!

My favorite parts of this drama so far.

1a) Lee Bo Na. She's so endearing even when making jabs that should hurt.

1b) Chan Young and Lee Bo Na. They're honestly the only couple that makes sense and who are mutually kind and loyal to each other.

2) Madame Han and Mom. Funniest thing ever. 'Nuff said

3)Hyo Shin. The only sane person in the drama. Him in the pool scene was basically saying what we were all thinking at that point.

Cha Eun Sang is better off just being friends with Lee Bo Na, Chan Young, Hyo Shin, and possibly Myung Soo. Everyone else is detrimental to her health. Maybe she should look at Hyun Joo and learn from her mistakes. They are in almost the same situation anyway.
I want to like Young Do (I get second lead syndrome A LOT) but I realize the only reason I'm rooting for him is because I just want become a better person. Good for the world and my sanity and all that. Also, he's Kim Woo Bin.
Last thing, I felt like this episode moved faster than the last, and it did, but did we really get anywhere? The plot has literally one development. Madame Han realizing Kim Tan and Cha Eun Sang are in a relationship. Sure it's important to the plot but really? One? Everything else was just shoving down our throats the same food we've had, thrown up, and forced to eat again for the past 6-7 episodes.

Rant Over.

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Lislakia

November 13, 2013 at 10:13 PM

*him to become*

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PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Your right, she's going to need therapy after hanging out with those boys. Will she get a group discount if she joins with Rachel and Rachel's mom?

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59 Min

November 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM

They are all getting on my nerves despite my love for the actors and the great exceptions of my general annoyance are Bo-na and Chan young nad I expected to love everybody but Bo-na in the beginning but now I've been showed up, she's may favourite thing about this drama.

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60 plumseed

November 13, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I can't help being worried about PSH, LMH, and KWB... the impact of a drama on a star's career can last a LONG time. I'm not quite sure PSH will emerge unscathed from Heirs- although she possesses great talent and it is evident that she poured her effort into fleshing out Eun Sang, the character, the stereotypical, blank rag-doll Cinderella, holds no charm or charisma whatsoever. I hope Heirs won't hinder her career as an actress in the months after it finishes airing

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61 yuelie

November 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Because they all piss me of, I kinda want her to end with Young-do...so they will all be sooo unhappy!

Heirs? Royalty? Why do I miss the french revolution and the heads cuttings? lol

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PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Lol-" French Revolution and the head cuttings." Actually, you may have the solution to everyone's problems. That or we can hit them with the "Truck of Doom".

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:02 AM

Life with Young do would be interesting.

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62 crazedlu

November 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Lol.

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63 Tik

November 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Poor ES , seem like YD and ES will end up together

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64 polinonae

November 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Awww Heirs is so frustrating! I have been watching with the expectation of it to get better, but its not! I dont want to drop it, but everyone is boring and the story seem to be a big fat circle!!!

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65 bambledd

November 13, 2013 at 10:40 PM

To be honest, all I remember in the plot is that they were in Malibu for several episodes (where nothing really happened) and also that Young-Do tripped Eun-Sang in the cafeteria.
Ooh, and now, the 3rd biggie in the plot: Young-Do dropped Eun-sang in the pool.

There's not much happenin', but still Lee Min Ho is very easy on the eyes so I keep watching. : )

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66 running_wild

November 13, 2013 at 10:41 PM

eun sang crying in every episode - i feel nothing.
rachel crying for the first time in ep 11 - i feel bad

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PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Good point. Rachel is a human with feelings, not a pawn.

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candycane

November 14, 2013 at 12:09 AM

agree agree. If ES does not cry in every episode - I will be happy. When rachel cries for the first time - I like her more.

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Gidget

November 14, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Me too.

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windsun33

November 14, 2013 at 4:39 AM

Oddly, I felt the same way about Rachel. When ES cries I go do chores or something.

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Ditto.

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ghanima

November 14, 2013 at 9:32 AM

The same. I felt really bad for her.

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67 aria

November 13, 2013 at 11:06 PM

this drama, for whatever reason , has everyone's attention. although i cringe every time i watch it, i still cant seem to NOT watch it. so i'm trying to enjoy the sub plots and cute moments and unintentionally funny moments.

but that does not mean that i'm not disturbed by the fact that this drama is the second most popular drama (by votes) on gooddrama at 9.63 rating. now c'mon?!?! that's just plain witchcraft. it bothers me that there are some genuinely good dramas that are overshadowed by all the hype heirs is getting.
anyway, ratings just proves that there are some loyal fans out there. thats a given. hm

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Moonbean

November 13, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Actually unassuming Secret has been beating both its direct rival Heirs and the Monday-Tuesday shows week after week.

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aria

November 13, 2013 at 11:16 PM

good to hear that . seriously.
i did a spit take when i saw the gooddrama ratings.

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Moonbean

November 13, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I think that's a function of the popularity of shows like this among younger audience as well as the popularity of the leads among international audience both of whom watch these online from places like dramafever.

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:04 AM

Because Secret makes you care about the characters, good and bad, whereas here, all I care about is Woobie My Wuv moving and talking and just being in front of my happy happy eyes.

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Lindy

November 13, 2013 at 11:39 PM

I, for one, am not watching Heirs because of all the hype. I wasn't even going to watch it at all because I really dislike high school romance dramas. But I decided to give it a shot when I found out the writer was responsible for The City Hall which is my favourite Korean drama ever. I'm enjoying it a lot and am actually excited for Episode 12.

Believe me when I say that if a drama doesn't grab me in the first two or three episodes, I will drop it. I would have done the same with Heirs. But I like what I am seeing and witchcraft has nothing to do with it.

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windsun33

November 14, 2013 at 4:41 AM

What surprises me is that on koreandrama.org Heirs is winning by a lot, but in actual viewer ratings it is 20% or behind Secrets.

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 9:11 AM

What? Secret was 17.5% nationally, I think, and Heirs was 15.4%. The point spread and actual viewer difference may be more significant, but that's only a 2% difference, approximately.

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68 Lindy

November 13, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I think the big problem with both the Won and Young-do characters is in the unpleasant way they are first introduced while all the sympathy buttons are being pushed with Tan. He's illegitimate, he's been sent off to live in luxurious isolation in California and then ignored, he seems just so very, very sad and misunderstood. Tan is the classic poor little rich boy just aching for love. Plus he's first introduced through a voice-over so we immediately identify with him. He's our narrator. This, ladies and gentlemen is our hero as played by Lee Min-ho. It's a common writer's trick and, I think, pretty effectively done here. I fell for it.

Contrast this introduction with both Won's and Young-do's. Won is seen in flashback being cold to his little brother. Young-do is engaged in what is just about the most chilling bullying scene I've ever witnessed in any drama because it's so horrifyingly real. We are being encouraged to dislike them and to actually fear Young-do. Which we do because they are both pretty loathsome. I think it's pretty cleverly done.

Nothing I saw in this episode has changed my mind one bit about Tan being written as a person with an anti-social personality disorder. It's a pretty broad spectrum disorder with a lot of different symptoms and not every person with it is a serial killer or monster. But they generally lack empathy, engage in inappropriate behaviour, use manipulation to gain the upper hand, don't pick up on emotional cues, often use degrees of violence to get their way and so on.

Just about everything Tan does and says is ambiguous in that it can be taken in two (or even more) ways. Everything about him seems to put me, at least, off balance. Like in the flashback scene in Episode 11. Is Tan telling Young-do he will regret his actions for the rest of his life because he'll be sorry he's lost a good friend. Or is he saying Young-do will regret making Tan his enemy. Either one fits. Even the horrible wardrobe choices seem to play a part in keeping me from getting a proper handle on the character.

Also what exactly does the guy do when he's not stalking Eun-sang, making inappropriate sexual advances, using manipulation and guilt-trips to get his way, uttering death threats if Eun-sang answers her phone etc? Tan seems to have no friends, hobbies or interests, is not studying or learning the business he might inherit from the ground up. He seems pretty empty when left alone.

I don't want to seem like I'm somehow on Young-do's side or a Young-do/Eun-sang shipper. He's no prince charming. But he has friends, he's ordering special parts and working on his motorcycle, he's worked weekends and all school breaks washing dishes and doing other menial tasks. He's smart. He quotes Henri Cartier-Bresson to Myung-soo so he's obviously well read. The boy has kept himself busy in between bouts of bullying the less fortunate.

Also this whole illegitimacy thing seems pretty bogus to me. Why exactly is Tan suffering here? His own father is concerned that Tan will be protected. He's making sure that Tan will exercise at least the same amount of control as Won over the holding company that controls the business. He wants the marriage to Rachel to go ahead because it's for Tan's own protection. Ie: Tan will control even more of the family firm with her shares. His mother is always pushing yummy meals on him in a very doting manner. Young-do eats convenience store food alone because no one really cares enough to eat with him.

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PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Oh, very well said! I totally agree with you. However the writer wants the mouse with a fluctuating backbone to be in love with the anti-social personality disorder, but not yet serial killer, and to live happily ever after together. The End.

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Lindy

November 13, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Oh dear! I hope not. I personally hope she gives both of them a pass, goes on to have a successful life, career and marriage to a normal man and looks back with wry good humour on her brief teenaged experience with the upper class. Also I don't really see Eun-sang as a mouse. I quite like her as our heroine.

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PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Sometimes she's Mighty Mouse. :)

She's not really, it just seemed to fit. She seemed more real today, even though I have issues, but she is just a teenage girl. I also believe she just go live her life without the two grabbers. I think she'd be a lot happier and definitely less stressed.

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:08 AM

Gah, that was so funny!

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 4:15 AM

Young-Do's future stepmother would be happy to eat with him. She tried to show concern after his beating, remember? He pushed her away.

YD gets the sympathy vote on some counts, but when you beat up half the people you know and act like a little beeyotch to the other half, you probably will find yourself eating alone.

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Lin_K

November 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM

@Faye - How would you feel if you were in YD's shoes? I may have reacted to Esther the same way. And YD has some friends/acquaintances he hangs out with. That's good. Showing him eating alone - I think they were showing that his dad does not care about him or wants to eat with him. Also there are reasons why YD turned out to be who he is. Not making excuses but you can't deny that his circumstances did contribute to him being this way. I love that he is changing and showing his vulnerable side. Hoping to see a gentler YD by the end of the drama. And even though YD is so horrible, I can't hate him. Love him. Came to be a WB fan after watching YD :)

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 6:13 AM

I'm not going to get into the whole Young-Do discussion again, because it always ends up going in circles -people have their opinions on him and they're unlikely to change. I'll just address the specific point I was trying to make. The poster felt Young-Do should be pitied because he had nobody to eat with. But that is a direct consequence of the choices he made. So while I feel bad for his daddy issues, I don't feel bad for his eating alone.

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Lindy

November 14, 2013 at 7:30 AM

I don't think I ever said anywhere that Young-do is to be pitied. He's nasty, no prince charming, needs therapy and is just generally rude, ill-mannered and uncouth in his behaviour. To address your specific point about eating alone as a consequence of his bullying though, I don't think that he eats alone because he is a bully. He eats alone, while not in school and not just once but everyday it seems, because he has a rotten home life. Or rather not a merely rotten home life but completely non-existant home life.

I don't think it's been shown yet why Rachel and Young-do are so dead set against their parents' marriage. Rachel seems to want her Dad back but we don't yet know why her parents divorced in the first place. Nor do we know what has happened to Young-do's mother. Was she just fed up with the infidelity? Did her husband beat her? We just don't know this yet. But it's pretty clear that both Rachel and Young-do are aware that they are essentially props in this financial merger of a marriage and neither of them are going to play along with it.

About him being a bully to half the people he knows and a bitch to the others. I don't think that is true. He is a horrible bully and he's obviously a serial bully as well. What happens to the student in the first scene with Young-do (don't remember his name) is really ugly to watch. Awful! It's pretty clearly stated that Young-do picks one target at a time, that target is always male and a member of the scholarship group, and bullies him relentlessly. But everyone else is pretty much left alone. He also has friends, hangs out, both in school and out, with these friends.

Lin_K

November 14, 2013 at 4:17 AM

@Lindy12 - I liked your comment. I too have always wondered why Tan does not have any friends while YD does, especially when the latter is supposed to be the horrible one (Even if not friends, YD still has acquaintances who hangs out with him (BN, MS)).

I like how you pointed out the things Tan has in advantage of him. The only disadvantage for him is that his mom is a mistress but his dad cares about him and is working on making his future secure. His mom loves and adores him. On the other hand, YD surely suffers emotional and physical abuse and has no one who loves him genuinely. One of the reasons why I have always liked YD more and sympathized with him.

I do believe that it is a writing flaw that Tan's character came out looking as a person with anti-social personality disorder and not just a lonely person. On the side note, YD is the character I am interested in. And like so many others have said here, WB nailed YD with his expressions, talk, and actions.

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Adal

November 14, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Hold on a minute - Tan DOES have friends. I'm a little at sea with the comment that he does not have friends but YD does. Let's not forget that he recently came back from exile in California - where he had been on his own since he was fifteen. In California, he hung out with his surfer dudes and in particular - his friend, the blond guy (can't remember his name) - always showed up at his house. Their friendship was close enough for Tan to feel responsible for him when the 'bean paste' accident occurred which inadvertently led to his introduction to Eun Sang.

When he got to Korea - he has conversations with his sunbae, Hyo-Shin and once told ES that they are pretty close. They are close enough to be confidants and know about each other - you only talk about your suicide attempts with someone you trust , not with an acquaintance.

As for saying that Tan doesn't have hobbies - Tan's a writer, he writes his observations and thoughts in a journal. Granted that he doesn' t blog online, but his writing was good enough for his American professor to request for it several times and it was only after Tan decided to go back to Korea that he finally gave his journal to his professor. So, to say that he has no hobbies is also, technically incorrect.

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Lindy

November 14, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Has he written in a journal since he returned to Korea? I haven't seen him do so but of he has, I stand corrected. I thought he handed the journal in to his professor back in California. I guess it depends on your emotional relationship with your journal. My husband, a professional writer, has kept a journal since he was a small boy and asking him to give up even one of them would be like asking him to give up a toe. In fact, I think he would rather give up the toe than any one of his journals. It's one of the first really jarring things I noticed about the character of Tan back when I still was trying to see him as the hero of Heirs. It was like, doesn't he have any emotional investment in where he is recording his private thoughts and hopes. But no, he hands it over without a backward glance.

About the friends thing. Tan seems to be always alone. Sure he has conversations with his peers but seems to have no real closeness with any of them. He's pretty much written as the classic loner. But this is, again, a matter of opinion. Even his friends in California don't seem like they are really friends but more people he hangs out with because he has a nice house, swimming pool and unlimited access to cash. That whole California interlude seems very weird to me now. I will probably watch it again when the series is complete.

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:07 AM

Agree completely re Tan.

Honestly, I can see why Won hates him. I'd be the same if my illegitimate younger sibling was getting all the coddling even into adulthood. And how has illegitimacy even hurt Tan? The board of directors are all treating Won as a placeholder until Tan grows up enough to step in and apparently on the basis of Daddy Kim's favoritism.

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PlumWine

November 14, 2013 at 6:19 AM

And there's the real conflict between Won and Tan, seen through Won's perspective.

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 6:20 AM

How has illegitimacy hurt him? He can't openly acknowledge his own mother! She can't participate in many aspects of his life. He lost his best friend after outing himself as a bastard. He has to put up with taunts from YD about that to this day. He has to use the term "mother" for a woman who obviously can't stomach him and sabotages him with Won. He is forced to become engaged to a girl he doesn't have feelings for to whitewash his tainted heritage. That's just off the top of my head.

As for Won being a "placeholder" -no. Tan is going to receive shares equal to, not exceeding, his brother's. Having to share the company with his brother instead of controlling all of it does not excuse Won's behavior.

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 6:23 AM

Also, the idea that anyone thinks it's okay to hate a sibling for being coddled just because they're illegitimate says more about the hater than the sibling. Illegitimate children didn't choose to be that way. It's their parents, not them, who are responsible for their lineage.

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Lindy

November 14, 2013 at 8:12 AM

I agree, illegitimacy is pretty awful as represented in Korean drama land. And it's horrible that Tan can't acknowledge his biological mother in public. But does he ever really behave as a loving son in private either? He never takes her calls, rebuffs her attempts at maternal affection and doesn't even seem to respect her at all. At best he seems to regard her as a barely tolerated annoyance.

Also about his legal mother somehow sabotaging him with Won. This is a new development in our story. She's now doing this to play hardball with the mistress. Before that she took Tan and his mother into her home, allowed him to be registered in the family book as her legitimate son (is this even legal In Korea, anyone?) and was actively conspiring to arrange Tan's marriage to Rachel specifically because he would then control more Jejuk stock than Won.

The wife is not a nice person but where would Tan and his mother be if this hadn't been done? It's pretty clear now where his father met his mother. Rachel's mother goes to confront Young-do's father in a hostess bar, sees "Madame" Bang running the place and recognizes her as one of the mothers on the parent committee. But the audience also recognizes her as Tan's mother's very close friend and co-conspirator. Madame Bang is obviously a self made businesswoman who has made enough of a fortune catering to the extra-curricular needs of Korea's male elite to send her daughter to the top private school in Korea. And Tan's mother was once probably one of her girls.

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Tan has screened her calls and rejected some of her overbearing attempts at asking about his life. Kind of like every other teenage boy in the world. Maybe not respectful, but he's no worse than most boys his age. And when Young-Do came to his house and disrespected her, he immediately became angry and insisted on introducing her as his mother to YD.

Moreover, you can't blame him for somewhat conflicted feelings towards his mother when he's been encouraged to view her as an outsider, as someone to be treated as a second-class citizen, by everyone in his life who knows the truth.

Chairman Kim's wife appears to have tolerated Kim Tan because she was left no choice by the Chairman but to do so. And keeping the secret, encouraging the marriage between Tan and Rachel is not for Tan's benefit - it's to protect the Kim name and Jeguk Group's image. Which, again, benefits her.

But again, none of that is relevant to my original point. @TS said that Tan has suffered no consequences or hardships of being illegitimate. And the facts don't bear that out.

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Lindy

November 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I guess you and I have different perspectives on the character of Tan and the scene with Young-do and his mother. He seems, to me, much more surprised than angry that Young-do has become such a "bastard" and that he, Tan, has "underestimated" him. Young-do is a complete jerk in this scene though, no doubt about it.

I think we must look at what is actually being written re: the legal mom's relationship with both Tan and his mother. She clearly states several times that she is the one who brought them into the house and she is the one who is responsible for the high status Tan enjoys as her legitimate son. She hasn't been forced and is not merely tolerating his presence in her home because of the chairman. She is the one who says she engineered the whole deal.

She's had a least two scenes with Rachel's mom about the advantages their children's engagement will bring to them, the mothers, and she seems to be doing it because she dislikes Won. Why? Well perhaps because Mr Kim's first marriage was a love match rather than an arranged alliance between two powerful families. Also she is expected to produce children from this union and she hasn't been able to so the fact that she's now Tan's legal mother gives her power she wouldn't otherwise have.

In most Korean dramas, the position of the biological lower class mother of an illegitimate child is not to be brought into the household, her child registered as legitimate in the family registry and allowed to function as the lady of the house while the legal wife leaves the home. Whether she likes him or not, Tan, his biological mother and his legal mother have all attained enormous benefits from this being done. Where would Tan and his mother be now if his legal mother hadn't done this?

About the typical teenaged boy thing, I have two teenaged boys and they can be pretty jerky at times. Anyway great discussion and it's nice to read differing perspectives.

Yoori

November 14, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I like your point of view on the two male leads' characterization. Both are equally bad, but in different ways. Both are equally pitiful, but in a different way. In the end, they're pretty similar and because of that, they buttheads. Am I making sense? Anyway, we know in reality, no sane teenager would date guys like that but because this is Kdramaland, the impossible becomes possible and "logic".

Where has all of this writer's creativity gone? Every ending is either the Three-Way-Stare-Down or the Kiss-and-Stare, which then circles back into the same things that happened in the last episode! I would think by the nth time, ES would not look be so shock every time Tan get's realclose to her and/or goes for a kiss. I am not hating on the actors/actresses but rather the writer and director for the most uncreative and nonprogressive script ever. Won's scenes are reduced to a few lines now, tsk tsk.

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Lindy

November 14, 2013 at 1:37 PM

I kind of like the whole circular nature of each episode and think the writing is good. Direction I don't know too much about but it seems okay to me. Every time Tan leans in for a kiss he is invading Eun-sang's personal space in a very aggressive way so I have no problem with her stunned bunny reaction. His kisses are meant to be the very antithesis of romantic. In fact, in many cultures he could be charged with sexual assault for doing this.

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modest-goddess

November 15, 2013 at 11:11 AM

yeah I don't get why the writer has not given Tan some sort of hobbies or interest other than making up with Won and dating Eunsang. Hyoshin has broadcast club, Youngdo has motorcycles, Myugsoo likes night clubs. What does Tan do in his free time other than mope or chase Eunsang.

We know he used to bully, what has done in those years since he stopped being a bully? All we saw in California was him sitting around bored. Tan is not interested in company, he doesn't study. I thought maybe they were hinting he wanted to be a writer in Cali but that part of his personality seems to have disappeared. Is he no longer introspective?

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69 coby

November 13, 2013 at 11:24 PM

ha!
I right away imagined the truck of doom hit the 3 of them on the last pic, got their souls switched or the good ol' amnesia.

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70 Angelica

November 13, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Sooo.... I guess I'm in that 1% tier that is actually enjoying this drama. IMHO, I understand how one can get bored of the same plot over and over and over and over and over again (is that too many overs? Ha) Or in lesser words. Predictable.

I just interpret it as another emphasis... They just don't foresee the repercussions of their actions. Ahem, cough cough Kim Tan. These heirs of fortune/misfortune are kids. They're downright self-centered, majority are entailed, and have no qualms whatsoever about their actions. Many would say that this isn't an excuse. It isn't. Just another pound on that nail... that these kids still have ALOT of growing up to do, even with the maturity they have gain from the circumstances they have dealt with.

Honestly, I actually really liked this episode. There was emotion and humor. It was that emotional roller coaster that I preferably enjoy.

I particularly enjoyed the Bona and ES's interaction. I'm rooting for those two to be biffels.

I swear Mom and Madame Han. No words. They're too cute for their own good.

But, I must say. Hyo Shin and Tan. Okay, hands down I'm shipping their bromance. Seriously.

But moving aside on the funny tidbits. I'm enjoying ES cracking YD. For once, I can see how ES is going to be YD's soft spot. Hoping, for her supposed revenge in the next episode. I swear the moment I saw that pool. Somebody is getting drenched to the bone. Tsk.

While, I'm on my internal frustration with YD. It's weird. I am rooting for some sort of kinship between ES and YD. They have too much chemistry for it to be just one-sided. I'm not particularly rooting for a romance. But a friendship... would be very sufficient.

Young-Do. I'm vastly entertained reading into him as a character, dissecting his actions, hoping for the eventual change or some sort of understanding or legitimacy of his thought process. I admit there is an unexplainable draw, pull something that has me silently rooting for him. It could be because he's handsome. There is a charisma... that unfortunately I'm not really seeing in LMH's portrayal of KT.

But foresee it already. KT will have to make a choice. ES or becoming the son he "used" to be. I want to shove KT into this drama reality. He needs to hit the ground running. He needs to grow the balls to not just admit his feelings/intentions/relationship to his mother but his father. His confession, it hit 1st base in sense he said it out loud. But for it in my opinion to make drastic impact... and hit home.... not yet my prince.

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Adal

November 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Chemistry - the age old ingredient which the KT/ES pairing seem to lack. Honestly, they lack sizzle and the vibe between them is more friendship than anything else.

Now the chemistry between YD/ES is explosive... just wishing they would take it to the next level. ES dumps KT and goes to YD who doesn't have any attachments at present. Pity though, that YD is a budding psychopath with a malicious father. So in conclusion I'd say "RUN ... GIRL... RUN!".

One of the positive plots from this episode is that ES will finally get out of KT's house. A move for which I'm thankful for, because that will put them on a more even footing. Trust me, there are few things worse than living in a house where you are not comfortable and not welcomed.

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71 minbeen

November 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM

I like that this drama is getting people to write long comments/speculations and analysis into the different characters, portrayals and meaning behind it all.
I don't think I have seen a drama that invoke such passionate analysis of all the characters and plot or lack thereof.
If that is the writer's goal, boy, has she achieved it or what?

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PlumWine

November 14, 2013 at 6:20 AM

It's fun isn't it. :)

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elza

November 14, 2013 at 8:22 AM

haha :D
i was just gonna type out a comment about all the character/plot analysis over here. you said it!
i dont think the writer or the director has thought this far out- in-depth analysis.

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72 PlumWine

November 13, 2013 at 11:56 PM

I just realized I've spent longer commenting and reading than the actual episode! It's been fun. Off to sleep.

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73 Sajen

November 14, 2013 at 12:17 AM

I have loved Kim Eun-Sook's work before, Secret Garden, On Air, City Hall, and all but the last 10 minutes of the last episode of Lovers in Paris are all on my favorite drama list, but Heirs just isn't doing it for me.

I think I'll get through by imaging that Tan is Min Hyuk, Eun Sang is Yoo Jung and Young Do is Do Hoon from Secret so their actions make even a modicum of sense. Also because nothing else airing can hold a candle to the awesomeness of Secret.

Or I might imagine everyone else but Bo Na, Chan Young, Madam Han, and Eun Sang's mother just suddenly dropped dead for no apparent reason and no longer exist.

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krystal.anne

November 14, 2013 at 12:40 AM

i also love Secret Garden, City Hall, A Gentleman's Dignity, Lovers In Paris, Lovers which is all Kim Eun Sook drama but you know every writer has a bad drama. I mean i love Hong Sisters and their dramas but 'BIG' was such a big disappoint and i never expect them to come up with such a disappointing drama but they bounce back and write Master's Sun who might have flaws too but over-all is still a good drama.

So hopefully KES next drama will be better.

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74 Jd

November 14, 2013 at 12:22 AM

Agreed 100%. I dont understand all the young do hype. Which girl wil fall in love wit an ass in real life? well this is drama.

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Ek Ladhki Thi is Kim Eun-sooks no 1 fan

November 14, 2013 at 5:45 AM

I want to like Young-do too especially since I understand very well about abuse but I can't get past the bullying because I was severely bullied in high school too and by boys who claimed to be attracted to me no less. That's the reason I don't want Eun-sang to end up with him. But I guess if I hate Young-do so much that means Kim Woo-bin is doing a good job of making him believable.

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75 Anna B

November 14, 2013 at 12:23 AM

THE MOST STUPID CHARACTER IN THIS DRAMA IS CHA EUN SANG - x 1 million.

Her ambition to be uplifted from her poverty will bring her eventually to destruction. When Young Do asked Kim Tan who he would choose Rachel or Eun Sang, he changed the subject. The reality is, Eun Sang would settle to be a mistress. This is the kind of an 18-year old girl who pretends to be pitiful and will use her financial stature in life to be a mistress of anyone who has money.

I MISS THE CHA EUN SANG OF THE FIRST 2 EPISODES? WHERE IS SHE? SHE WAS PROBABLY LEFT IN THE STATES.

I prefer Rachel and Lee Bo Na, they're intelligent with everyday life.

Park Shin Hye should have chosen the Lee Bo Na or the Rachel role.

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krystal.anne

November 14, 2013 at 2:12 AM

i laughed out loud at the x 1 million comment.. lol

Don't find the Eunsang in Ep 1 & 2 already because she's long gone, the Eunsang we have now is like a rag doll (like Javabeans said) who is the object of Tan & Youndo's tug of war.

I thought about what you said about Eunsang being like a mistress and i realize that is who she is right now, as long as Tan is still engage w/ Rachel she is just considered a mistress even if she is the one Tan loved. Like how Tan mom is, true the chairman doesn't love the 2nd wife and they don't even lived together but no matter what she is still the wife & Tan's mom is just a mistress. So until Tan had enough backbone to talk to his father & break his engagement with Rachel, Eunsang will never be more than a mistress. I wonder why Eunsang kept flirting w/ Tan despite her knowledge that Tan is engage. If i was her i would be ashamed to flirt and act like a couple w/ Tan especially if i know the guy is STILL engage, where is her shame and integrity?

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:11 AM

Yes, she's a mistress. THat's why Rachel is so pissed. It's pretty darned relatable if anyone's ever had a super-entitled boyfriend who wanted to date around while keeping his official relationship.

Or, yunno, can empathized with the person being cheated on.

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Moonbean

November 14, 2013 at 4:09 AM

"Her ambition to be uplifted from her poverty"? Surely you are joking! She keeps running away from two physically gorgeous rich guys of her age. Not some dude almost 20 years her senior like Madame Han ended up with. Tan's money and status is not Eun Sang's motive but it is the obstacle preventing them to be together.

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Faye

November 14, 2013 at 4:22 AM

What's wrong with having an ambition to lift yourself from poverty? This is the modern world. Poor people have the right to pursue an education and change their position. In the beginning, ES talked about her desire to get a good office job and make money (since college seemed out of reach).

"The reality is, Eun Sang would settle to be a mistress. This is the kind of an 18-year old girl who pretends to be pitiful and will use her financial stature in life to be a mistress of anyone who has money."

What the what? Eun-Sang has spent literally every.single.episode running from KT, trying to break up with him, and telling him reasons why they can't be together. Trying to keep she and her mother safe. What on earth has she done to demonstrate what you said?

I seriously wonder at times if I'm watching the same show as some of the commenters here.

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76 bigUNNIE

November 14, 2013 at 12:23 AM

It seems most people haven't felt Young Do yet. They still tagged him as horrible bully after this episode. Is it blindness, denial or?

While it's true that past actions of a person contribute a lot in judging him/her, it should be fair. Not just because other gets more screen time or does have better physical look, you overlook them.

It just so happened that KT has changed first(considering he's more horrible bully in the past) but his past is no different with YD's.

I know I sound like YD's defender but I'm also a LMH fan. It's just I don't find it fair for YD to be judged like that. I feel him. I understand him.

As for the scene at pool, don't get him wrong. He's just showing CES how it'd hurt from now on re: her relationship with KT. Most may see it as another approach of his being bully, but not to me. I'm sure CES has got the message. And oh! What a way of conveying it!

And oh I forgot, Most also say YD doesn't deserve CES. It's sad to know that. Because of his past actions AGAIN and being a bully.

Does anyone need to be "saint" and have a good background before deserving a person? Please if you're going to say the same reason, don't even think of replying.

As for the YD-CES shipping, I am not shipping them because I find his ways of reaching out to her cool(although sometimes) nor he is Kim Woo Bin(Darn, I like LMH better) but BECAUSE I SEE SPARK/CHEMISTRY BETWEEN THEM THAT I DON'T SEE IN KT-CES. That important thing which is not influenced by the character or circumstance they're in.

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Lin_K

November 14, 2013 at 4:26 AM

@bigUNNIE - Good to see you here! I am also wondering why people don't see that YD is trying to change, even after this episode. I understand where he is coming from, and I am his supporter!

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PlumWine

November 14, 2013 at 6:27 AM

I definitely see him changing. Some his actions may be wrong (he's an 18 yr old boy with little emotional experience except mental and physical abuse), but his intentions are are becoming good and he's trying to help some one other than himself keep from getting hurt.

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modest-goddess

November 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM

I definitely see YD making an effort to interact with ES without bullying her. He is not 100% there yet but he is trying.

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77 drama with a borrowed story

November 14, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Another episode with almost the same plot...the same thing over and over again since Episode 5. Its now the 12th episode.

Its Eun Sang, Young Do vs Kim Tan. When will this triangle end? No script at all.

I will give this up once Beautiful Man starts. So tired of these never ending merry go round of episodes from 5 to 12. same plot.

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78 tura

November 14, 2013 at 12:56 AM

This episode brought a smile on my face

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79 tura

November 14, 2013 at 12:56 AM

This episode brought a smile to my face

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80 boms

November 14, 2013 at 1:13 AM

It's funny.. Young do has told Eun sang that he liked her, and at the time I was wondering what happened after that scene, but it was just moved on without any after thought. Now that I think about it (especially after seeing the episode 12 preview), she thinks that everything he does is either a joke or a threat. The bottom line: she can’t take him seriously.

Side note: I am really starting to appreciate the appearance of Hyoshin and Bona. Both characters really grow on you :)

And contrary to what everyone has been expressing, I’ve also been appreciating Rachel and Chan young’s parents’ story. Because it could be a possibility in Eun sang and Tan’s future if they choose to go their separate ways. (If not, then Tan's parents as another alternative). It’s been fun watching how Rachel’s mother becomes more and more reluctant to marry Young do’s father in each episode, and IF she chooses to be with Chan young’s father by the end- it kind of shows us that no matter what, (and I get that this is going to be annoyingly cheesy) you end up with the person you’re supposed to be with, even if it takes a longer amount of time than you thought…

Rachel and Chan young would probably make better siblings anyway. He’s already tattle tale-ing on her. If this happens though, I hope the writer does not match Young do and Rachel together by default because they'd no longer be siblings...

I think this episode is probably my favorite as of now. For once with Eun sang makes a freaking move, the secret is now out at home, Rachel the jealous robot finally shows some weakness, Tan tells his mom to stop telling him what to do, and saving the best part for last- EVERY YOUNGDO SCENE. I love how willingly open he is, and to get those sincere answers- ALL EVERYONE AROUND HIM HAD TO DO WAS ASK. Unfortunately though, all that is making Eun sang do is pity him rather than conjure up feelings for him.

He’s already preparing to catch her when she falls from Tan’s arms, but he forces her to fall (or in this case trip lol). But so what if he likes her and she chooses not to be with Tan ? If Young do were to start a relationship with her, he would probably be in a much worse situation that Tan is considering how effing batshitcrazy his father is.

And finally, rather than grabbing wrists, Tan has evolved and has managed to learn the move "offering to hold hands"… but has he chosen to forget "wrist grabbing"? (man I’ve been playing way too much Pokemon -_-;;)

I was just thinking though- what if KES pulled a Lovers in Paris move and just ended all this with “It was just a (midsummer night’s) dream…

Bahahahaha. I can just hear all the tables around the world being flipped.

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PlumWine

November 14, 2013 at 6:29 AM

*CRASH*

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modest-goddess

November 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM

yeah Youngdo's father is so violent and controlling I pity any girl he tries to date

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81 Love Jade

November 14, 2013 at 1:17 AM

Awww.... all that ranting about how 'stagnant' or 'seriously boring' this drama is... made me wanna laugh hard. I was like "Aw, man... you've noooo idea how much better this love drama is..."

There's so much wealth, plots and romance, skinships ~ hugs (!), kisses (!), love-stares(!), lovelines (!). Well, maybe to some, these are boring. To some, these are cheesy. To some, they'd go "I've seen better". Maybe they have. Maybe they haven't. That's not the point. The point is that at this point of "drama-oogling", I'd take those than...

A peek at Empire of Gold?

(Pstt... I died every episode of this drama ~ of unbelievablly extreme boredom! ~ LOL)

LOL

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82 Sur

November 14, 2013 at 1:27 AM

any other drama i would've said bo na is a weird character but here she seems the most normal one

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83 Pearl~ai88

November 14, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Anyone else tired of that song yet? "Looove is the moooment!" so.much.cheese. It's starting to trigger my gag reflex...

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Piera A.

November 14, 2013 at 4:55 AM

It's played whenever the writers want us to recognize its a romantic moment. I can't stand it either.

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PlumWine

November 14, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Please don't even write the lyrics out! It makes the voices in my head cry.

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Jyyjc

November 14, 2013 at 7:42 PM

It's like the next "almost paaaaaradise" to me now, which I find funny but also hate it at the same time.

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84 fairouzmm

November 14, 2013 at 1:29 AM

did Lee Mi Ho puffed-up his cheeks, because they looked different to me, i don't think his cheeks was that puffy before.
As for Won, i just can't take him seriously with that silly hair-do. i wish that pool scene was between Tan & Won, they look like plastic mannequin with all that makeup and silly hairdos

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Piera A.

November 14, 2013 at 4:54 AM

He probably puffed his cheeks hoping he won't be recognized in the god-awful drama.

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85 pv

November 14, 2013 at 1:47 AM

thanks for the recap
kim woo bin is kicking the leads (LMH) ass in terms of the drama's character and overshadowing him...poor LMH
btw why are they continously using such a bad version of sung si kyung's "Two people"- annoys the hell out of me
plus is the director a kara fan, i noticed the camping set was the exact copy of a recent kara japanese single
p.s.: i am hoping that eung san walks away with young do and never looks back atleast we can the get back to the story and turn LMH' puny character into a angry young man version

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86 Mee-Ra

November 14, 2013 at 2:29 AM

This repitition of three way thug war, depress me too. One character should submerged from this pool of robotic confrontation, PLEASE. I don't even care which one, YD, KT or ES. Just for the love of Dramaland God, impress us already 

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87 Sammy

November 14, 2013 at 2:31 AM

Geez what was the point of making this drama again?

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88 Nameid

November 14, 2013 at 3:15 AM

I am an Indian and love to watch Korean drama. This will be my first comment here.

I only like very unique story with nearly perfect acting or simple stories with extra ordinary acting.

In this show there are too many problems.

The plot is really simple and the main characters acting is just ordinary. The writer is to blame here. The idea of suiting in foreign countries really made the show flop from day 1. If somebody from a rich family go to study abroad we expect few strong lines in English. But Kim Tan only said few words like sorry/thank you/ hay baby/ and few small sentences. They should choose different actor who is good in English.
“Maria” song is really good. I love to hear the song instead of watching the boring drama.

Both Kim Tan and Eun-sang should marry each other as they both are dull characters. Although they both are reputed actors there is no chemistry at all. They both shows same expression again and again. I think they both do not want to grow their acting skill! So they should marry each other here. There romantic sences has no charm and does not suit the audience mood. Seems like copy and paste. Very bad writing.

Both lead actors should not accept the drama as they already have good experience is drama world. This is only damaging there reputation.
The 2nd lead actor Young-do’s acting is really strong and unique as an evil. He is worth watching. His acting is very powerful which is making the lead actors even dull. A cry dull baby like Eun-sang does not deserve Young do.

Bo-na’s bubbly dubbly comments are super cute. Chan-young’s smile towards her comment makes it more watchable like icing on the cake.

Believe me or not I repeat watching Young-do, Bo-na and Chan-young part (I love conversation between bo-na and Chan-young not Chan-young & Eun-sang).

Request: Please make a drama taking Young-do and Bo-na as main character. They both will surely rock for their evilness and cuteness respectively.

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89 jully moue

November 14, 2013 at 3:40 AM

I live in a tropical country so I don't know, but how do girls wear short skirts when guys have to be wearing turtle necks and coats already?!

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windsun33

November 14, 2013 at 4:48 AM

Oddly enough, in Korea if you go downtown to the shopping districts in Seoul in the dead of winter, half the girls there will be wearing short skirts. I always wondered why they don't find more frozen bodies in the street.

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modest-goddess

November 18, 2013 at 9:06 AM

this is the drama version of high school uniforms. The uniform skirts are actually longer in real life.

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90 Sudina

November 14, 2013 at 4:20 AM

Right now,Im having rumbling thoughts of how Eun sang came to like Kim Tam so quickly??
Heroine,Heroes..
the episodes has already crossed half-way but no development on stories..Just I-Love-Yous,I-cant live without you.I have no right..blahblahblah.Losing my coolness over this show.Just a repitition and nothing new..

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91 Jyyjc

November 14, 2013 at 4:33 AM

What I'm dreading the most rn is that a large amount of screentime is being wasted on the love triangle repetition crap while we could be delving deeper into Hyoshin's story or explore more of Won's inner turmoil. So sad.

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windsun33

November 14, 2013 at 4:50 AM

Or almost any other story about any other character. This Farce a Trois is getting old.

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92 Piera A.

November 14, 2013 at 4:46 AM

My eyes hurt from all the rolling they do while watching this drama. Did I miss something, like how any of them got from Point A (meeting) to Point B (loving). There is absolutely no chemistry between any of the characters, except Madam Han and Mom.

Choi Jin Hyuk is totally under utilized. He is the only reason I am putting in all this time. I hope his appearance in this drama does not stall the current trajectory in his career. He is by far the most talented actor in this drama.

Has the writer EVER taken Psychology 101? How can they equate emotional/physical abuse with love/romance. Its sick. There is not one redeeming character, except Chan-young. Eun-sang is pathetic and oblivious to anything around her. They are stereotyping the female lead as an idiot who in a very scary way falls for guys that treat her like garbage. Hopefully she'll beat up all those guys at the end of the drama.

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August

November 17, 2013 at 5:16 PM

"Has the writer EVER taken Psychology 101? How can they equate emotional/physical abuse with love/romance. Its sick."

Are you currently watching "Secret Love?" Apparently emotional/physical abuse can or will eventually lead to love/romance.

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93 mirela

November 14, 2013 at 4:48 AM

ok am I THE ONLY ONE that actually noticed BN has a picture of KT sticked on ther locker door?? REALLY NO ONE EVEN NOTICE? not even ES??? WTF?? isn't she suposed to be madly inlove with CY? why does she keep having a picture of KT?

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elza

November 14, 2013 at 8:29 AM

which scene is that?!!

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nwp

November 14, 2013 at 10:12 PM

That's Chan Young's photo. Not KT.

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94 Didee

November 14, 2013 at 4:59 AM

TBH, there´s so much wrong with this drama. Acting wise there´s nothing more than some average skills. And yes, I don´t consider PHS´s skills great. Those kissing scenes are just very poorly done, thanks to her. Like 90% of that is her and 10% director. It just doesn´t work for me. Don´t get me wrong, I do like the cast, however, none of them is showing anything memorable. It´s probably hard with the scrip like that but I have seen some bad scripted shows with some really great acting so itsn´t like it´s impossible task. I´m still watching though.

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95 TS

November 14, 2013 at 5:24 AM

I could point out how this show is a hot mess, but my guess is that's already been done.

That said, Woobie Woobie Woobie!!! Wuv Oo.

So, here's how I would tie up all the messy ends:

Marry Won to Rachel (they get on well and Won would have control over Jeguk), marry Chan Young's dad to Rachel's Mum (allies him with Won, and gets Rachel's mum out of slimebag hands), send Tan and his trust fund back to CA with ES & ES's mum (seriously, just get them out of the way already and maybe Cali will have an ENT who can help while we're at it), marry Young do to that School 2013 girl who likes him and push Young Do's dad off a cliff.

Cool?

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PlumWine

November 14, 2013 at 6:36 AM

*Push*

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 9:27 AM

We could do a trip wire gag too.

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96 Marina

November 14, 2013 at 5:42 AM

A comment to Dramabeans: Thanks for recaps and interesting threads. Lots of helpful info into shows' psyche and fun discussions. Will be linking and promoting your blog to US media. They must take interest in blooming Korean entertainment sooner or later. We should make them do so anyway, right?

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97 sayit

November 14, 2013 at 6:03 AM

Last night I made a comment in ep 10 recap that PSH's facial expression reminds me of Sigourney Weaver's when the Alien pressed in on her. And now I see 2 screen captures of almost the same look. I can almost imagine javabeans laughing when she screen cap these. The only difference is that Kim Tan looks less interested in ES than the Alien was in Lt Ellen Ripley. I think this show needs to be parodied.

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TS

November 14, 2013 at 6:14 AM

Ha, that's so funny! Maybe one of the SNL writers will see this and do it.

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98 Limmy

November 14, 2013 at 6:12 AM

Just watched episode 12 (without subs), can't wait for the Dramabeans recap! Dying to know what people think. :S

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99 space kablooie

November 14, 2013 at 6:15 AM

I actually had the same thought in the last scene- when does the light change so a bus can come pur them out of their misery? At least that would change up the plot. Seriously. Try to recite the plot. All I can come up with is: 1. People go to California and see each other. 2. They all go back to Korea where the rest of the cast meets each other. 3. Eun sang finds out she is living in Tan's house and transfers schools. 4. Eun sang became a rich boy dog biscuit. THAT'S IT THAT'S THE WHOLE PLOT

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100 dramarookie

November 14, 2013 at 6:25 AM

I know Young-do is semi-psychotic, but he cracks me up. His whole don't-be-hurt-by-them-now-get-outta-my-way speech just about sums up his personality. It's a real tribute to the actor that I still feel sympathy for him.

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