Mi-rae’s Choice: Episode 5
by gummimochi
As time continues to tick past, our heroine is at a crossroads between two suitors who are both as sweet and endearing as they come. Our characters learn that just because you’re in a position of authority doesn’t always make you powerful, and one act of defiance can come to bite you later. And even if meddling in the little things don’t always get you the results you want, you can always count on the big things to strike loud and true.
As an episode that feels rather void of any pressing threat to the present (despite the mysterious time-travel authority presumably hunting down a time traveler), I can see how the ratings dipped to 6.5%. (Suspicious Housekeeper pulled in a 9.3%, while over at MBC, Empress Ki premiered to an 11.1%.)
EPISODE 5 RECAP
On the air, Shin invites Ajumma Mi-rae to look into his future, and he’s told that it’s a bleak one—he’ll be ruined. Her prediction is generally met with amusement, so he humors her, asking for specifics.
She gives them: Once he loses his job, his poor wife will work herself ragged to pay off his debts, while he’l be an unemployed bum sitting on the couch all day long. In other words, he’ll be nothing more than “a beast.”
Though insulted by her words, Shin keeps to his professional demeanor and wraps up the segment without skipping a beat. And elsewhere, the mysterious Black Man locks in on her location.
Mi-rae flags her future self down for an explanation, only to be told that it’s all true—there is no happily ever after ending with Shin, pure and simple. Neither sleep nor tears is an option when one is dogged by debt, Ajumma adds matter-of-factly.
Mi-rae can hardly believe her ears, and by now, both Shin and Se-joo are waiting for her at opposite entrances. I do love how excited Shin looks about their “study date.” The choice is up to her, Ajumma Mi-rae says, adding, “I know you’ll make the right choice.”
Thus Mi-rae makes her way to one of the entrances as both men turn their heads expectantly… and she emerges to greet Se-joo, who notices her gloomy mood.
Se-joo sees her off at the bus stop, where she asks if he’s free tomorrow—would he like to go to an amusement park together? Did… you just ask him out on a date? Good for you for taking the initiative, though I also feel kinda bad that Shin got stood up.
Mi-rae finally picks up Shin’s calls in the bus, and aw, he asks if she wasn’t feeling well. They reschedule their lesson for now, and unable to choose, Mi-rae decides to meet up with both men for the time being.
Meanwhile, Ajumma staggers out of the YBS building just as Chairman Lee arrives. The chairman recognizes her from the show, but is alarmed when Ajumma suddenly faints in front of her.
When Ajumma finally comes to at the hospital, Chairman Lee proves that she’s sharper than she lets on, calling her out as a fraud. She’s done her homework on the so-called fortune teller who’s actually a cleaning lady.
She doesn’t buy Ajumma’s pity story either, and definitely finds her rapid aging condition as strange. She asks why Ajumma approached her. Ajumma Mi-rae answers: “Sometimes, I… can see the future in my dreams.”
One mention of her grandson Se-joo is enough to pique the chairman’s curiosity, and she gapes in astonishment as Ajumma accurately describes his current hard-knock life working as a VJ. It’s too bad, Ajumma adds, because there’s someone that he loves. Ha, now you’re just milking it.
Furthermore, Ajumma suggests that Shin be sent abroad to advance his career, but Chairman Lee is quick to point out the gaps in her contradictory statements. Grabbing Ajumma’s hand, she challenges her to read her own future—will she drop her hand or not?
Ajumma returns the favor by climbing out of bed and warning her that she even struck the chairman in her clairvoyant dreams. Chairman Lee challenges her to try it then and there, only to cower in fear moments later. Altering one’s personal future can lead to many different versions, but major events are harder to change, Ajumma explains.
Then she taunts the chairman with the possible downfall of her resort. When the chairman is desperate for more information, she makes an off-handed remark to pay close attention to one particular evening in the near future.
Ajumma finds Mi-rae examining the Master Plan when she returns home. She asks whom Mi-rae ended up choosing, and Mi-rae says that she met up with neither, but plans to see them both until she can sort out her feelings.
Mi-rae doesn’t know if she can stop liking Shin, nor is she certain that she can love Se-joo either. As far as she’s concerned, she doesn’t know the first thing about seducing anyone. So she’ll test out the waters and see where everyone’s hearts lie instead.
The next day, Mi-rae worries whether the rainy weather might dampen their not-a-date. She strikes up a conversation with Se-joo in the car, impressed by how he’s made his own movies before. He gets all embarrassed about it, but their rapport is downright adorable.
Shin gets called in to see Chairman Lee, fully expecting to receive a punishment for his defiance. He sees past her transparent attempt to send him abroad, asking if she lets superstition influence her business decisions.
Then Chairman Lee decides that he can be sent to the countryside instead, where he’ll have plenty of time to reflect on his actions. Shin says that he’d rather be fired, but that isn’t on the chairman’s agenda, and she gets lost in the riveting stories he could cover.
He runs into Ajumma Mi-rae downstairs, and he asks why she’s so interested in his affairs. She simply answers that they must have been enemies in a past life.
Then Shin walks towards her, backing her into the wall. He asks, “Could it be that you like me?” Her racing heart seems to be enough of an answer. Either that or her heart is getting stressed more frequently lately.
Mi-rae and Se-joo get rained out of their amusement park not-a-date after all, and she suggests that they head back to his place to watch his self-produced movie from film school. Realizing that he needs to keep up his poor VJ ruse, he puts in an urgent call for a spare apartment. I love how he stresses, “It has to be shabby and plain!”
He’s surprised when she considers the impromptu space quite nice while he tries his best not to look like a stranger in his own home. They eventually settle down to watch the movie as Se-joo adds his own nervous commentary to entertain her.
Mi-rae finds the film plenty enjoyable, however, her eyes transfixed at the screen. When he waves his hand in her face, she moves it away, and he hangs onto her touch a few seconds longer.
She admits that the film is quite sad like he described as he keeps watching her. Then he gently wipes off a crumb from her lip with his thumb, and they both start at the touch.
Yoo-kyung’s comeback segment calls for a lot of legwork, which the PD willingly exploits. He tries to justify his actions later, calling her sex appeal a strength (ugh) and saying he wasn’t too revealing in his shots (bleh).
She nods along, but momentarily stop mid-utensils setting, reminded of Se-joo’s words about why she keeps the habit. It’s only when the crew leaves does she drop the smile on her face, and then she heads to her usual bar, half-hoping to run into Se-joo. She deflates when she finds that he’s not there.
As Se-joo walks Mi-rae out, he invites her to stay for dinner, but Mi-rae says that she shouldn’t be at a single guy’s apartment late at night. He’s relieved that she considers him a man (versus being friend-zoned), and asks when they can hang out again.
Back at the bar, Yoo-kyung contemplates whether to call Se-joo out herself, wondering if it might look desperate on her part. She rises in a huff to find it turned off, and then hilariously doubles back in embarrassment when Se-joo walks in a moment later.
Yoo-kyung tries to strike up conversation, attributing their chance encounters to fate, and she frowns when Se-joo replies that he doesn’t believe in things like destiny. She does catch him smiling over how much of a carefree and spontaneous person Mi-rae seems to be.
He claims to possess neither of those qualities, then he shares that he initially saw Mi-rae on a separate occasion, marveled by how she ran into in his editing room that day. Yoo-kyung pouts.
Mi-rae is all smiles on the bus, but panics when she receives a text from Shin to meet him at the park for their lesson. Now. She arrives out of breath, which is when Shin instructs her on the importance of keeping fit in this industry. And on that end, Shin proposes a basketball game where the loser treats the winner to a meal.
He even gives her a handicap, and they smile and laugh as they play against each other. Mi-rae wins (did Shin forfeit his last shot?), which is when Shin mentions that he’s being transferred.
Mi-rae is quiet during dinner, and Shin laughs that she can relax now that he’ll be gone soon. He tells her that every announcer reaches a crossroads at one point in their career, and he thinks that he’s already reached his.
Right now, he’s conflicted on whether to accept the hand given to him or be stubborn and choose his own way. It troubles Mi-rae to see Shin so unsure of himself, so she takes it up with Ajumma Mi-rae once she gets home, accusing her as the reason behind Shin’s future downfall.
Ajumma claims that he’s going off to bigger and better things, and she’s genuinely surprised when she hears Shin is heading to the countryside, and not New York.
The entire team is saddened at the news of Shin’s impending departure as he assures them that he’ll be back soon. Oppa pulls him aside and pins him against the wall, and in alarm, Shin cries, “I’m a guy!” Ha.
Oppa asks if Shin likes Mi-rae, to which Shin blusters no, and turns the question back on him if he likes Mi-rae too. When Oppa asks who else likes her, Shin thinks fast and blurts out Se-joo’s name.
But it’s more bad news bears as Chairman Lee interrupts the airwaves with a special broadcast to announce that the morning show will be canceled and its entire team will be reassigned, naming Shin as the responsible party for that decision. Er, I don’t think Shin’s declaration on air quite equates to ushering in a new regime, but you sure threw Shin under a bus.
His team turns on him on a dime, complaining about their financial woes, and when Shin says that he’ll handle it since they still have a few weeks left, but Jokey PD yells that another outburst could get them fired. Meanwhile Se-joo beelines to see Grandma at the news, but is denied entry.
Shin finds Ajumma Mi-rae in awe at the announcement, and she advises that he beg for forgiveness. They live in an unfair society where those who stand by their principles are punished, and she suggests that he let the chairman think that she’s won the round.
He asks what happens afterward, when he’ll return and still be powerless to do any real journalism. Chairman Lee has her hand in everything, and points out that he would have lost a third of his team if he did nothing that day. Plus he’s used to the constant backlash by now.
Then Ajumma calls him out on that statement, saying that he never got used to the scrutiny and being an outcast. Realizing her mistake, she backtracks, and he half-jokes whether Ajumma knows any big upcoming scoops, and concludes resignedly, “Looks like you only know my future pretty well.”
Se-joo calls Mi-rae to apologize about losing her job when she’s just joined the team. She assures him that it isn’t his fault, unaware that he’s indirectly involved through family ties.
Ajumma Mi-rae is grocery shopping when she gains some unwanted attention from her fellow shoppers who recognize her from the show. After contemplating what to do next, she consults her trusty diary (her own copy from the future) and heads out.
At home, Mi-rae wonders if they’ll be recruiting writers within Shin’s new team. Oppa kicks her in the shins to focus on getting married instead.
It turns out that Ajumma Mi-rae has headed outside to talk to Shin, who says that it’s past his bedtime. She asks why he’s giving up so easily—what happened to the Kim Shin who vowed to return as a main anchorman?
She offers to help him, and hands him an umbrella just as a thunderstorm brews. At the same time, Mi-rae drags Oppa outside into the rain, having received a text from her future self. And Chairman Lee opens her window, reminded of the words that something eventful will happen.
Then they all see it: Namsan Tower gets struck by lightning, and the spindle cracks, tumbling to the ground.
COMMENTS
Now that’s a story worth covering. I do like how the lightning strike emphasizes that major events that are out of one’s control will come to pass despite meddling with someone’s personal future. I hope that it’s significant enough to keep Shin in Seoul, though believe you me, I would have loved to see Shin trying to commentate on a live chicken fight.
I admit that I felt the story slow down for me despite the show’s shorter airtime, which should usually force your story to be a little snappier and zippier. Perhaps it was because our heroine is still waffling over our two suitors, saying she doesn’t know the first thing about seduction or that we continue to see Ajumma’s health deteriorate. And for a Time Cop (as I’ll call him until his identity is revealed), he sure is taking a helluva long time to track down one person. Just sayin’.
Still, there were a few things I did like even if the story has started to recycle its other plot points. Chairman Lee is a sharp woman whose suspicion makes for an interesting conflict. I like how she sees straight through the excuses, and just when you think that she’s taken the bait, she turns that question on a dime. I’m not all that interested in the YBS politics at large, since workplace political battles usually come and go as convenient, and I assume that the morning team will be kept on a short leash as the series progresses. But I do like the interesting dynamics we get with her and our other characters. She rules with an iron fist, and just when you think you’ve won the battle, she ambushes you with another attack. Even if that attack is inspired by a quack fortune-teller from the future.
I also enjoyed watching Ajumma’s deep-seated grudge towards Shin start to unfurl in this episode, since we’ve seen her filled with such hate. And I’m sure in her future timeline and her not-a-happily-ever-after with the man of her dreams, rightfully so. However, it intrigues me how she’s still drawn to him anyway, and how it bothers her to see him so defeated and powerless. Her sympathy towards the present Shin is something unprecedented thus far, and I can’t be completely certain whether Ajumma Mi-rae let him in on one of the major stories of the year to send him abroad or to help him find that drive to succeed again. Whatever the motive is, the heart can only stay hidden for so long before it’s found out.
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1 snow_white
October 29, 2013 at 4:11 AM
Thanks for the recap...
The plot is a bit confusing at times but I'm enjoying Mi Rae's Choice..
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kuxi
October 29, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Me too. I thought only me who feel like that
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2 Roggy
October 29, 2013 at 4:21 AM
Omomomomo I wonder if future MR tell him that she is future MR?!?
Also, is time cop the orange guy from their broadcasting team or not? So confused?!
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dustdevil
October 29, 2013 at 11:02 AM
I'm not sure, but I like this theory!
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bradk
October 29, 2013 at 7:58 PM
The biggest flaw in showing him her face is that he will recognise her when she ages. If we were being realistic.
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Jess
October 29, 2013 at 9:41 PM
Yeah, but that can be explained by Mi Rae saying that future Mi Rae is a relative. They just look a lot alike.
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3 jomo143
October 29, 2013 at 4:53 AM
Thanks for the recap!
I loved this episode...
I have a question, though, about how Future MR wasted an opportunity to make Shin look super cool.
Why didn't she tell Shin to bring a camera outside to watch the tower hit by lightning? She would have killed two birds - prove she knows about the future AND give Shin a scoop.
Unless she has something else up her sleeve about what is to come...
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DayDreamer
October 29, 2013 at 5:12 AM
I was wondering the same thing too....like, uh, why didn't you let him assemble a whole bunch of cameras and the crew first? Maybe she wanted to convince him that she can "see" the future [SPOILER] 'cause in the preview it didn't seem like they were doing a coverage of Namsan Tower, more like the inside of a subway station? It looked like a subway station to me....
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DayDreamer
October 29, 2013 at 5:15 AM
Aw dammit....why didn't the spoiler tag work?
Sorry guys, I talked about the preview but was trying to make it invisible with the tags....just ignore it somehow...Gummimochi, if you can fix it, I'd appreciate it.
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 7:47 PM
I think the SPOILER tags are broken.
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4 Caitlyn
October 29, 2013 at 4:55 AM
I'm enjoying it for the most part, but this episode was a bit jumpy. Kim Shin randomly calls her and they play basketball together? They keep on having these really odd scenes, like the lunch scene from last week. Scenes that don't seem to make sense or fit in.
I like both male leads though, and i have no problems with young Mirae. Future Mirae still annoys me, but I really loved how she still clearly cares for Kim Shin even while she hates him.
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 7:49 PM
I thought the basketball scene was cute - but how they ended up there really made no sense to me.
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Jess
October 29, 2013 at 9:43 PM
I agree. And when exactly do they "study" together? He doesn't appear to be teaching her anything directly related to broadcasting.
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5 Ivy
October 29, 2013 at 4:56 AM
Jung YongHwa might play a small role who gets barely enough screentime/screencaps, but I'm happy he's improved so much and tried to put his best in each of his scenes. Looking forward for more him and Yookyung interaction. I find the two of them just as interesting as Kimshin/Mirae.
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coby
October 29, 2013 at 6:26 AM
me too! I am looking forward for Yonghwa's scenes!
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 7:52 PM
I actually have more sympathy for Yoo Kyung than for Mi Rae, perhaps because I get the feeling that the role she is portraying as "Broadcast Eye Candy" also has a lot of truth in real life.
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6 Oo
October 29, 2013 at 4:56 AM
Thanks for the recap! I like it so far but have decided to wait until it ends before I continue to watch it...
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7 DayDreamer
October 29, 2013 at 5:05 AM
Yep, the episode seemed a wee bit slow but still interesting enough.
So now I'm theorizing that being so debt-ridden, Shin killed himself? Cause without doubt, the one Ajhumma Mirae loved and still loves (if that racing heart is any indication) is Kim Shin. Plus, she had these moments of sympathy for him and was even trying to help him out. Yet I don't understand why she has to pull herself out of the equation by latching onto another man. So the mystery remains.
Aside from that, I find Yoo Kyeong soo adorable, especially when she did that gleeful double take upon seeing Se Joo at the bar. I just wanted to pinch her cute cheeks in that moment, lol.
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Mia
October 29, 2013 at 7:18 AM
I have to wonder about that though. She didn't seem to be trying to make Shin's life better on this trip back until this ep. Future Mirae trying to set herself up with Seju isn't go to spare Shin from ruin. So it still seems, IMO, that the person that died in some way was Mirae. Maybe it wasn't an actual death but just the death of the person she was or hoped she'd be before their life was ruined.
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8 Faye
October 29, 2013 at 5:07 AM
I thought this episode was slower, but interesting in terms of setting up the characters' dynamics. LOL at Mirae deciding to date both guys - you greedy girl, you! Not that I can fault that decision. I also heartily enjoyed Se-Joo calling up for an apartment as casually as most of us would call for take-out. Wouldn't it be nice to live like that?
I found it interesting that as hard as she is trying to keep Mirae and Shin apart, Future Mirae herself can't stop seeing or feeling sorry for him. She's even involve to the point of trying to encourage him career-wise (was calling him out during the Namsan Tower fall deliberate? seems so). One of the themes of this show is definitely that certain things are meant to be and will happen, no matter how hard you try to prevent them.
I'm also curious to find out just exactly how much Shin knows. Between his future alternate/reality dreams of last week and his comment to Future Mirae about liking him, I get the impression he knows *something.*
If I'm supposed to feel sorry for Yoo-kyung, I don't. Sorry to be harsh, but she was awful to Mirae for no reason. I don't have pity for women who have no other female friends because they treat them badly. And as for the PD treating her like a hooker? Well, sweetie, that's what happens when you pimp yourself out for your career. I need to see some more character development from her before she deserves Se-Joo.
I was surprised when Future Mirae told Shin he was going to be an unemployed bum in the future. It seems so banal and predictable. Surely there has to be something more that compelled her to travel back in time, right?
Thanks for the recap!
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colleen
October 29, 2013 at 5:28 AM
I agree with your opinion of Yoo-Kyung. It's probable that she will get Se-Joo in the end given the K-drama formula, but I have no empathy for her character and would rather see See-Joo and Mirae together, and leave her to Shin.
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SuziQ
October 29, 2013 at 11:29 PM
Agreed.So far, I still think Yoo Kyung will still be destined to end up with Se Joo, but she's a sneaky gold digger opportunist whom I despise.
Se Joo deserves better..Will his be a one sided romance? Mirae and Se Joo were such a nice duo instead of with Shin, who's an arrogant jerk at this point in time.
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dramaspresso
October 29, 2013 at 8:50 AM
I wonder how dark this show is willing to go... what if the person shin killed in the future was himself? That might explain the combined hatred/affection future mi-rae has for him.
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Faye
October 29, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Yikes! That is dark. It would be interesting, though.
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Min
October 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM
I thought that might be it.... and maybe she was the catalyst for his suicide? maybe like she told Mi Rae in the first or second episode that if she couldn't pick up and do something to change she might as well die... she regretted it later muttering about how she chould have said such words again... maybe those were words she'd used on Shin and he actually did kill himself?
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9 Tata
October 29, 2013 at 5:07 AM
Maybe it is just me but I don't understand the ratings, I really like this drama. Every ep gets better. There are so many funny moments that I can't stop laughing. I like how the romance if being developed...can't wait for today's ep.
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jomo143
October 29, 2013 at 5:14 AM
It isn't that this is bad, it's that Suspicious Housekeeper just kicked it up a notch with the appearance of super super hot Song Jong Ho.
He stole the spotlight in Heaven's Mandate and is killing it in his "cameo" here.
The show was already good, but this puts it over the top for me, anyway.
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Tata
October 29, 2013 at 6:42 AM
That is what I was thinking. It is not that it is bad, it is just that the viewers are looking for something else. The difference is not that big anyway. Empress Ki that had the highest yesterday was at around 11%. If the difference was really high than I would get frustrated, but right now it seems to be a matter of preferences.
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 5:16 AM
Ratings dont mena anything these days specially when the so called mos popular shows have 20-25% at best and they are trashy melodrams, weekend family dramas.
Its like saying CSI,Grey's Anatomy is better shows than Sopranos, The Wire,Breaking Bad and co just because they had more viewers.
Good dramas like Two Weeks also had 11% recently.
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Tata
October 29, 2013 at 6:45 AM
That is true. The ratings also depend on which drama is airing at the same time. I also really liked 2 weeks, but the ratings weren't that great because of the competition was strong.
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 8:04 PM
It looks like Empress Ki was the big ratings stealer here. I have not looked at it, so no idea if it is good or just got decent ratings because of it is a premier. Housekeeper upped the ante with it's dark twist - leaving poor Mi Rae in the dust.
I am still not sure how I feel about this one. On one hand it could be a pretty good story line, but they keep putting gin things that don't really seem to fit or make sense. or perhaps it is just the editing.
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unknownX2
October 30, 2013 at 1:07 AM
Episodes 1 & 2 of Empress Ki were really quite superb...so it will be a ratings stealer for some time to come.
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10 Kit
October 29, 2013 at 5:13 AM
Damn I love this show. It hits all the right notes for me. The writing, directing, acting, chemistry between leads, plot movement .... I find it all fantastic. And ugh when Shin simply says it's in a person to complain because they can only see what's in front of them, my heart went out to him. He's such a straight shooter and I respect that a lot. It's not as if he wasn't seduced by the easy road, and sure there's self pride mixed in there, but he really wants to do the right thing. Does it strike anyone as strange a man like that just ends up on the couch all day? There are so twists and turns to keep us guessing, and yet it all seems realistic (in the confines of a fantasy plot) and grounded in real human emotion - it's fantastic ;;;;
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nasus
October 29, 2013 at 8:14 AM
Second that! I reaaally love the writing, directing, acting, and chemistry between leads and the plot movement as well. This show deserves much higher rating. I enjoy watching it.
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11 ML
October 29, 2013 at 5:16 AM
Thanks for the recap! I think the pace was a little slow in this episode but it was made up by the nice interactions amongst the leads. For a Time Cop or whatchamacallit he's moving as slow as a turtle if his mission is to nab future MR.
MR loves Shin now and in the future despite the meddling. You can see that future MR loves Shin eventhough she grows to resent him for being a useless bum in future. At the end of the day she just wants the best for him. She just doesn't want to go through the future hardship that's why she's pushing present MR to SJ. But when she sees Shin facing difficulty she helps him. It makes me empathise with her character.
I find the negative outcome from Shin's action towards Miranda realistic. Normally drama land will gloss over the repercussions of standing up to your superior or even going OTT but being transferred to a remote place and getting your dept shuffled or restructured is something that happens in real life.
You can see the interaction difference when MR is with SJ and Shin. She's formal and awkward with SJ even though he is so sweet and gentle and preferring to having dinner on her own. But she's really comfortable with Shin; talking, having fun and drinks with him. So SJ though I heart you, you're not going to get the girl.
Looking forward to next episode!
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12 Yaniii
October 29, 2013 at 5:17 AM
Love this drama, but you're right it was a bit slower paced today, loved the ep regardless though. However, I didn't get the ending, as someone else pointed out why didn't FMR make Shin bring a camera, if she really was giving him a Namsan tower falling down scoop? confused.....
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 5:36 AM
Camera doesnt tell the story. She must have planned to tell him the reason, the story behind what happened to the Tower.
Shin isnt a camera man, he is an anchor. He will tell about the story and not show it.
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13 Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 5:21 AM
I think this was great ep and the best one so far when it comes to character's story,growth and overall story. Mirae saw Shin is more human, have inner struggles than what Future Mirae made him look like.
Future Mirae finally is more complex than i thought, she wants to help Shin despite she is the one that ruins his work, life in this ep.
Yoo Kyeong i really felt and understood this ep. Its all too realistic what she has to do to get the work she wants. Having to be sex object for her work, her fear of losing her job. She might not as free, bold as Mirae but i can understand her even more in real world realism.
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megumi
October 29, 2013 at 7:00 AM
no matter what you feel, you just don't belittle someone like she belittled mirae, she doesn't like to be a sex object but when it comes to men she likes she thinks it's ok for her to be a sex object, if you act like that of course people will think you are like that...as for the drama future mirae is hiding a lot of things which i think will complicate the series...
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Im not excusing what she did with Mirae, im just saying i understand the fear she has of losing her job if she isnt playing the aegyo monster, playing pretty girl to sexistic directors.
She can have flaws like being rude, arrogant because of her looks to Mirae and still be someone you can feel for in other regards.
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14 KDaddict
October 29, 2013 at 5:21 AM
I like all 4 leads, so it should be an enjoyable watch. But I'm having problems w Ajumma Mirae.
I find the her acting deliberate, exaggerated and stiff. It is screaming: Look at me! I'm acting!
And what's with all of her black clothing w leather and metal studs, and black floor length coats with wide shoulders. Is it supposed to be futuristic? Or is she supposed to be some kind of warrior? I find it unattractive and ridic.
Nor do I like that char's agenda. The writer makes her the one to drive the conflict, but she is selfish and materialist. Coming back fr the future, she has zero concern for anything besides swapping husband, so far. I'd like to see her do sth that is good for sb other than herself, and soon.
I can't stand her 'in your face' interfering ways. The way she meddles is ineffectual and plain childish. Those who are in charge of time-travel must be collectively shaking their heads. She is breathing down M's neck, teaching her to be a temptress to Park HJ, just like every gold-digger bad mother we've seen. It doesn't help that I hated her char in I Summon You Gold. It's the same despicable social climber who wanted her children to marry money!
Why does she have so much screen time in this ep? She is in every scene, in an interview on tv, w HJ's grand-mother, w KS in the lobby, w Oppa outside the house, w M at home, etc. Please Time Cop, hurry up and take her away. Let M live her own life, fall in love w the guy of her choice, and let me watch this show in peace!
I like Lee DG, so it's super good that there is a 2nd lead I can really ship Mirae with. Park HJ is a thoroughly nice guy, and Jong Hwa is selling it. More power to Jong Hwa.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 6:04 AM
I do agree that she meddles and it irks me that she is getting in the way even if it's to stop Mirae from having life of penury. She has totally messed up the lives of a few people and hurt Shin a lot. I don't think she has a right to do that.
I do think she's in a lot of scenes because she is as much a main character as Present Mirae. She will have a "choice" to make as well, mybe the primary choice. So we have to see her growth arc a well.
All that said, her discussions with Shin really did touch me. I don't know who is responsible for that. Actor's acting or Actress' but wow, the unspoken connection between them...I felt it.
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 10:27 AM
The scene future Mirae had with Shin was touching to me too. For the first time she looked like a real,regular human and not meddling cliche villain. She rememer her feelings for Shin, she showed she didnt want to hurt his career herself.
She was shocked that she was the one that made him lose his job in this ep.
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misskania
October 29, 2013 at 7:08 AM
I really hope Ajumma Mirae will tone down and bow down to destiny on the next episodes. Because no matter what she does Mirae-Shin are getting together. I like that idea. It is the most romantic idea ever. No matter how you can turn back time, you will always end up with the one you're with. It's destiny, nothing will change that.
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KDaddict
October 29, 2013 at 8:12 AM
It may be destiny, it can also be the fact that we are who we are, meaning given our personality, character, priorities, preferences, we'd still make the same choice the second time around, becos we are still the same person.
Ajumma Mirae is older, alas, I don't find her any wiser. She doesn't seem to have learnt anything meaningful in her 60 years, besides avoiding marrying the guy who will eventually lose his job and has to be supported. Isn't that sad? What a waste of a journey for Mirae!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 9:28 AM
Amazing that Future Mirae didn't divorce him during all that though.
I may be in the minority here but I tend to believe tht even if we are the same people, we might do things differently under the same circumstances. A leaf blowing here, a look here when we should have looked there...all these little things can affect the mood and voila...suddenly se do something else or choose something else. Little things like tht can change our choices.
As it looks though....Right now.... Present Mirae is somewhat different from the Mirae from the first timeline probably was. This Mirae is getting herself educated and may earn more than her husband with a broadcast job instead of two small jobs. One never knows.
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Mariah
October 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM
That's how I think this will play out too.
If Ahjumma was paying attention to what was unfolding, rather than just putting forward her own idea of how things should go, she'd just help Mirae in her career so that the struggle to support the family would be less, since her job would be better. It's possible that she feels that Shin's fall from grace would also lead to Mirae having a fall from grace, either because of Mirae's loyalty, or because of office politics, or even maybe just because of how Shin's downfall plays out.
CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 11:13 AM
I really love the subtext of entitlement and feminism going on. Future Mirae felt the guy should take care of the woman. Now, who knows? In a modern society, women aren't entitled to be taken care of. Heck, it would be nice. But all things being equal and society changing...aegyo princess and present mirae could end up being sisters who "do it for themselves" without needing to suck up to men or to trust the patriarchy. And chaebol could succeed or fail without having to trust the grandma-triarchy.
misskania
October 30, 2013 at 12:54 AM
Agree. That is what I see from episode 1 when she force her old self to learn to be civil servant. That is way advance than just an unemployed ex call center agent who marries fallen from grace announcer.
windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 8:19 PM
Yup - that is what I don't understand. In the 30+ years past where present-Mi Rae is, she actually seems to have gotten dumber and a lot more meddlesome. A million possibilities for her to have really make things better for present Mi Rae, and all she can think of is preventing a marriage.
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misskania
October 30, 2013 at 12:52 AM
Yeah that is why I am hoping for a clearer message on why she travels back time. So far, her reasons seem very shallow. But hey, future Mirae is only a dedicated housewife and different from current Mirae whom she unknownly has slowly shaped into an independent character. So I hope some shift must have had taken place.
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loveprevails
October 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM
Tee hee! You're such a romantic! :)
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misskania
October 30, 2013 at 12:55 AM
Indeed I am ;-)
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 8:14 PM
I don't believe in destiny (except in k-dramas, which has it's own set of rules), but I do believe that she has already messed up the time line so much that any results from here on cannot be predicted. But mostly it seems that for a time traveler that had planned this trip, she came remarkably unprepared. Apparently her only source of Future Knowledge is her diary.
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misskania
October 30, 2013 at 1:00 AM
I don't believe in destiny portrayed by K-dramas, either. But I do enjoy a drama/movie/story which stays focus on their original theme and story line. I found several stories have this strong supernatural/sci-fi/magical theme as well. I like this story as much as I like Queen Inhyun, although Mirae's shift in life somehow does not reflect on her future self. So I am biting my nails hoping she is not a fake Mirae.
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15 justaperson
October 29, 2013 at 5:24 AM
I get sooo excited when I watch this show! Every time I want more and more! However it is a bit confusing I mean the plot but who cares. I think it is the best drama so far!
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16 Rach ^^
October 29, 2013 at 5:34 AM
DB is shut down... where to watch dramas from now on??? Help!!!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 7:16 AM
do you get viki?
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Rach ^^
October 29, 2013 at 7:41 AM
Nope no DF either.
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Elena
October 29, 2013 at 10:50 AM
try Aja Aja, but it is a pay site. It doesn't offer freebies like DF. It is worth the fee if you don't have any other option. And it has all the OSTs
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Naneki
October 31, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Have you tried GoodDrama and EpDrama? How about DramaCrazy?
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submit
October 29, 2013 at 10:56 AM
gooddrama.net
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jessi26
October 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Gooddrama.com... there are many links so maybe one will work for you
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17 sososo
October 29, 2013 at 5:41 AM
Nothing wrong with the rating or the drama, it is just other 3 drama Basketball, SHC, Empress Ki are better.
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hjw
October 29, 2013 at 6:20 AM
Ha Ji Won is crushing YEH! :)
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Mia
October 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM
I went into this drama expecting the ratings might be low. I did hope it could pick up that lead in from Good Doctor when SH wasn't doing so well in the ratings. Now that MC is sandwiched between two solid dramas, one can only hope the ratings improve so it can at least hold it's own with the other two. Still happy this drama is the one Yonghwa picked. I think he's getting more respect for his improvement as an actor than he would've received doing the typical teen rom com. The fact that he gets to work with YEH and the rest of the cast is a gift in itself. He will walk away an even better actor by the time he's done. So happy to see see him work with YEH. KBS really just needs to promote this show better. This cast should have been on Happy Together by now.
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Annie
October 29, 2013 at 8:17 AM
Empress Ki's ratings will drop, mark my words. Viewers can't seem to get over Empress Ki's makeover from a traitor who sent Yuan armies against Goryeo to a heroine who cared about Goryeo's poor.
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 8:34 PM
Hehe.. yeah, I read the synopsis of the portrayal vs what she did in real life - and it seems to be a total disconnect. But like most "historical" dramas, the truth is always the first thing to get tossed out.
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM
Its nothing about the quality of those shows. Its because the ahjummas in Korea like historical romance story, historical basketball drama as genres more than a romanctic drama that is too serious in tone, future mystery story.
Im sure if this was more generic, predictable rom-com it would much higher ratings like 12-15%
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zodd
October 30, 2013 at 1:07 AM
coughs*Heirs*coughs
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18 thursdaynexxt
October 29, 2013 at 5:42 AM
I like how this episode forced the characters to really think about their career choices - for Shin and Mi-rae, obviously, who are about to lose their positions, but more particularly for the other two.
I really felt for Yoo-kyung when she was being exploited by that disgusting director. She knows what's right/wrong, but it's really hard to take a stand against the big wigs when the culture and system's totally stacked against her. If she's pretty but strong-minded, they threaten that there's plenty of girls like her, she's not indispensable, etc. If she's not ingratiating, then she doesn't get the jobs. Unsurprisingly, she might well ask herself: "What else can I do? Have I done anything wrong?"
Case in point: look what happened to Shin when he took a stand.
And Se-joo - he really felt what it meant to be powerless to protect what he cares about. Maybe this will be a wake-up call, and he'll soon decide that, rather than let Grandma Miranda jerk everyone around, he'll take over the broadcasting company and sacrifice his "freedom" as VJ.
I don't think Ahjumma Mi-rae has any exact idea of what she's doing - it's all made up as she goes along (although if she has her diary from the future, you'd think she'd be a bit more organised). I don't think her goal is to hurt anyone, just to make sure that certain things don't happen. And it's pretty clear that those things are pretty serious - you don't risk time travel, cops, heart deterioration and premature ageing, just because you don't like how your life turned out.
Aside from all that, Mi-rae's declaration that she's gonna be a two-timer was so cute! My other favourite moment was when Se-joo didn't know where *his* own toilet was. :)
Oh dear, a quick comment has turned into a full-on mini-thread. But I've been waiting for this all day, so thanks muchly for the recaps, gummi!
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 8:51 AM
More and more I see how frail Shin is. He is really such a sweetheart, and it shines through through all the stiff integrity. He is easily hurt and he is very noble and generous-hearted toward folks he feels responsible for. Such a person...well, one can't help falling for him. But also, such a person when they get into despair and can't shake themselves out of it.....ah me. I think it would be hell married to him if he can't shake himself out of his depression+integrity.
If Future Mirae tried to shake him out of that for all their married years, I can see how she can be bitter. I'm just hoping she can start changing him now on this timeline...before Time-Cop comes and muddles things up even more.
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Petitedov
October 29, 2013 at 9:52 AM
In the past/original timeline Mir-ae got to know Shin at the hospital and never realized her own potential/desires. In the new timeline, she has/is going about achieving her dreams as a tv writer and in the process she will be better equipped to be a source of strength for Shin.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 9:57 AM
i agree. I can't believe going back in time can't change somethings for good and some things for the worse. Will see how it all comes out with everyone concerned. Mayve aegyo girl will be an anchorwoman or actress in hubby/chaebol's movies.
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 10:54 AM
A man of principle who cant fake it and be a yes man i can see how he can become damaged, hurt by what happens to him. But still we only have a future Mirae of million lies, everything else saying that he was a man who watched only tv and lived on his wife with two jobs.
Hard to believe a man of pride to live inside,watching tv and his failed life. He might have done something to cut short his life. Shin in this timeline atleast doesnt give up that easily even when he is thrown to the dogs.
Petitedov poster says one very interesting thing, maybe Mirae in the other timeline who never became a writer who chased her dreams couldnt relate to Shin future troubles. How can he make a big deal of his dream job, career?
This present Mirae saw in this ep the inner struggles of Shin.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 10:57 AM
I'm thinking Future Mirae is telling the truth, though. Things get really complicated if we start distrusting her. Whatever happened to destroy Shin's self-confidence....it must have been a really devastating blow to make him just turn awy from life and finish his life watching TV.
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Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 11:03 AM
No im saying she is lying about Shin getting destroyed, losing his confidence, his job. I meant she isnt telling the truth about what happens to Shin in the end. She wouldnt run away from a husband who has just giving up by turning away from life.
Why not divorce him as you said in other comment?
The only way i see the tv thing, closed in given up Shin being true is if future Mirae still loves him so much that she wants to change his future. Changing present Mirae will change Shin's life. Maybe its her fault what happens?
She is still hiding the reason she is doing this. She cares too much still about Shin this ep shows that. Her goal isnt only saving her future life.
Mohammed
October 29, 2013 at 11:04 AM
EDIT:
No im not saying she is lying about Shin getting destroyed, losing his confidence, his job. I meant she isnt telling the truth about what happens to Shin in the end. She wouldnt run away from a husband who has just giving up by turning away from life.
Why not divorce him as you said in other comment?
The only way i see the tv thing, closed in given up Shin being true is if future Mirae still loves him so much that she wants to change his future. Changing present Mirae will change Shin’s life. Maybe its her fault what happens?
She is still hiding the reason she is doing this. She cares too much still about Shin this ep shows that. Her goal isnt only saving her future life.
19 diniyuukie
October 29, 2013 at 5:54 AM
I'm not really happy with the rating :( But thanks for the recap :) It seems that Mirae and Shin is getting closer and closer . Yong oppa , your acting has improve alooot :)
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20 CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 5:59 AM
Thanks for the recap.
More and more I feel that whoever Mirae marries doesn't mtter. She'll have a hard time with VJ if she chooses him as well.
I've often thought that a few folks would be told about meddling Mirae and I figure sooner or later Shin and oppa will find out the truth and have to make choices. We keep thinking Present Mirae is the chooser but am wondering if the Mirae who chooses will be Future Mirae as well.
I love it that VJ and Present Mirae have met. She has affected his life...for the better. I loved the way he looked around at the "crappy studio apartment" with a sense of adventure. I so hope in this time line, even if they don't marry (which they probably won't) that he will become a filmmaker and earn/use up all his money instead of doing everything Grandma wants. Hope he doesn't go poor though.
Not sure what the heck Time Cop could do now. He almost seems like an over-complication...but I guess he's needed to force certain plot issues.
Loved the subtle feeling of connectedness between Shin and Future Mirae. They seemed like an old married couple in a coupla scenes.
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21 thursdaynexxt
October 29, 2013 at 6:13 AM
Yes, the word "connectedness" is a nice way to describe it. For the first time, I felt like they might be a married couple in some other lifetime/timeline.
After all, Future Mi-rae knows him deeply, all his hopes and fears, whereas Present Mi-rae is only just getting to know him.
I just worry whether Future Mi-rae will feel any jealousy when Present Shin & Mi-rae fall for each other - talk about awkward!
Even Peggy Sue wasn't this complicated...
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 7:17 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if Shin fell in love with older Mirae?
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Annie
October 29, 2013 at 8:04 AM
Too bad Shin already shot future Mirae down ;-) But that would be HILARIOUS.
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thursdaynexxt
October 29, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Haha, I thought that too. 'Cos you know, technically speaking, they're the same person... :D
Can't help being curious about how Future Shin turns out. I'm not believing everything that Future Mi-rae says - most of her "fortune-telling" about Shin was simply guff she spouted to catch Miranda's attention. So I just can't see the current Kim Shin just sitting around and living off his wife. Maybe Present Shin is behaving differently from Future Shin, just like Present Mi-rae is different from her Future self?
After all, things aren't turning out exactly as Future Mi-rae expects, either - FM announces to the whole nation that Kim Shin will be ruined, then she suggests sending him to New York, but instead ends up sending him to Song Ju (wonder where that is, btw? Is it that horrible, apart from the chicken fights?)
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22 laraffinee
October 29, 2013 at 6:28 AM
I am still wondering if Future Mi Rae is really Mi Rae or someone else........
They have really different personalities. Even though people change, the basic personality type and temperament does not........
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KDaddict
October 29, 2013 at 8:26 AM
It'd be really sad if the vivacious, upbeat, innocent young Mirae grows into this materialistic, selfish, inconsiderate, unwise 60 year old. That is not growing old gracefully.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 10:06 AM
a hard life can change a lot of people. I'm sure a lot of bitter old ladies got that way because of the way life treated them and becuse of stressing marriages.
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Faye
October 29, 2013 at 10:29 AM
100%! I feel sometimes that people are too hard on Future Mirae, almost to the point of forgetting that she is the same person as Current Mirae. She didn't start out as a grasping gold-digger; she was sweet and innocent. Something very bad happened to turn her into who she currently (or "future-ly"?) is. I can't help feeling a little protective of her, somehow.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM
In some ways she reminds me of our mothers..in the way she meddles and in the way she knows how dangerous it will be for you if you marry the wrong guy and hitch your horse to the wrong wagon. On the one hand, you kinda wish they would allow you to make your own mistakes. But on the other hand, once you're a mom and you see some of the girlfriends/boyfriends your kids drag in....well, it's understandable from both sides.
lemondoodle
October 29, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Yeah, FMR never even left her dead end job she hated. She is a totally different character than MR basically because she lived a different life.
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KDaddict
October 29, 2013 at 11:14 AM
I'm of the belief that life is essentially a learning process, that when we are closer to the end than the beginning, we should hopefully be wiser, better, deeper ppl than when started out.
If I imagine my future self coming back to me like this Ajumma Mirae, I'd be immensely disappointed with myself, n wouldn't forgive her for having wasted my life to become sb like that.
Sure, life can throw us curve balls, but it is how we react to them that define us, whether we succumb, become bitter and hard, or rise above them and face it all with grace and dignity. That's where I part ways with Ajumma Mirae. Happy that HJW's Empress Ki in the same time slot has started its run.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 12:01 PM
I think life is a lerning process as well. But sometimes the emotional things we suffer get in the way of spiritual advancement. Or we end up learning in a very cynical way and losing what most would consider the true worldview. The ideal worldview is that good is best, love is better than money, that nobility, idealism, and integrity is the way to live life. This is what we all are taught is the gut real reaction to our life. This is obviously what Shin believes now and what Present Mirae believes.
But Future Mirae has seen what that kind of idealism did to Shin. This reminds me of Alice in C (which was on last year) where the poor girl always believed all the noble truths and ended up trying to be cynical and evil. And didn't quite do the evil cynical thing but got her man anyway.
At heart, we humans want to believe tht goodness and integrity are rewarded. But what do we do when it isn't? What do we do if our belief brings us sorrow? Future Mirae thinks we should learn to add a little cynicism to our integrity....even just to survive a little. It's not too much to ask i think, especially if integrity is a matter of life and death as it apparently/probably will be for Shin.
I've got to start watching Empress Ki too.
windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 8:40 PM
That works both ways though. I wonder how many of those bitter old ladies realize that the vast majority of what happens to you is because of what YOU do, not what other people do.
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23 Hater
October 29, 2013 at 6:45 AM
Gummi does not provide good insight and do this drama justice. All she kept saying how she needs something spectacular happen because if not the drama is slow and boring. Seriously after all your years watching dramas,you need some machination rather to make it work for you you? This drama deserves more love than you give it. Please look at the dialogues and character interaction more closely.
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misskania
October 29, 2013 at 7:00 AM
Yes, I agree. This drama has strong storyline to begin with and it shows in each episode. The message is clear that nobody can tamper with love arranged by destiny. No matter what Future Mirae does in her travel to the past, will not change the fact that they will end up together. I found this extremely romantic.
Not just that, her return also make the current Mirae more of a strong personality. Also Kim Shin.
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24 wren
October 29, 2013 at 6:52 AM
last week i was wondering why ajhumma mi-rae is shallow and concerned only about money. but im kinda eating my words.
well ...when she puts it that way, ie, shin stays at home and the wife paying off debts, it seems kinda reasonable why she's mad. but still not a reason to mess up the poor guy.
but then again im glad she's amending her attitude towards him .
and the show is getting exciting!! yay.
and omg lee dong-gun is so good. i cant put my finger on it but something about him is just makes me drool. maybe he's just hot .
and yong-hwa. wow. i think he's doing awesome!
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misskania
October 29, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Both Lee Dong Gun and Jung Yong Hwa have this strong charismatic presence. They show it in every dramas they are in. Maybe it is because their doe eyed charm? And they both look intelligent, too.
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wren
October 29, 2013 at 8:45 AM
intelligent! thats the word.
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 8:55 PM
While I can see WHY she came back, I think her "one solution to fix all things" sucks. It is like she has no plan B at all - she is only focused on keeping present Mi Rae from marrying the same guy.
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KDaddict
October 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM
No, she not so much wants to prevent Present MR from marrying the same guy, as she wants her to marry the rich chaebol. That's what she has learnt in the 30 years she has over the young MR!
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25 misskania
October 29, 2013 at 6:53 AM
I really like that the fact Ahjumma/Future Mirae comes back only to make their love stronger and make both Mirae and Kim Shin powerful personality. Current Mirae has become a strong independent woman and Kim Shin changed from aloof and sticky and wooden person into this cool and charismatic announcer!
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megumi
October 29, 2013 at 7:07 AM
and also to realize herself that her love for shin will never be gone no matter how much she tries to hate him...
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misskania
October 30, 2013 at 1:02 AM
Yes and I think ajumma is also begin to feel the feeling as well.
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26 wren
October 29, 2013 at 6:55 AM
i dont understand this ratings business though.
maybe it'll go up if they did something to YEH's hair. eh??
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misskania
October 29, 2013 at 7:00 AM
Hahaha! I thought the same!
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megumi
October 29, 2013 at 7:09 AM
yeah that hair makes her look very ugly...don't know why they chose that hair for her...
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August
October 29, 2013 at 1:51 PM
http://www.soompi.com/2013/10/12/why-did-yoon-eun-hye-choose-curly-hair/
When asked the reason behind her new hairstyle, Yoon Eun Hye replied, “I wanted to look natural, so I decided to go for curly hair. As an actress, of course I wish to look pretty as well, but this time I wanted to try something new and carefree, a hairstyle that doesn’t look weird even if I move a lot. Most importantly, I didn’t want to care about my appearance too much.”
“While I was thinking about these things, I thought that many foreigners look beautiful with curly hair. I showed photos to the director and the writer, and they reacted positively, saying that the hair reminds them of a poodle dog. Women look at this hair and think that it’s cute, but men don’t really find it appealing, so I probably have to let my hair loose after the drama ends,” she added.
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wren
October 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM
haha. :D poodle dog is spot on. thats some risk she took. although i still like YEH's hair to be 'normal', gotta give it to the girl for taking that risk.
as a matter of fact i should be happy she's championing the "curly hair cause" cuz i've perms. oh the irony. hehe
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zodd
October 30, 2013 at 1:08 AM
YEH isn't a big ratings draw anymore.
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27 elvira
October 29, 2013 at 7:39 AM
Complicated. And more so as another episode airs.
I still worship the Mirae-Sejoo couple. Yep, she should be with Sejoo, if it isn't so, why should Ajumma travel back to the past while by doing so she seems to put her current life in danger.
So, dear writers, please keep the pairing.
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owl
October 29, 2013 at 7:58 AM
Yes, the all-knowing usual unseen background narrator of a story has come to life in future Mi rae and is making everyone else's' lives complicated. I like it!
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Annie
October 29, 2013 at 8:01 AM
I strongly suspect that the reason you think she should be with Seju is because that's what Seju wants. What about what Mirae wants? And there's no point in writing a drama about time travelers saving their past selves from 'bad' decisions because in real life, there are no do overs.
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lemondoodle
October 29, 2013 at 8:17 AM
the thing is Ajumma shouldn't in the first place. Well, traveling is fine but trying to marry herself off to a rich guy won't work out. Grow from your past, don't try to change it because you are pissed off at your husband.
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KDaddict
October 29, 2013 at 8:29 AM
Ditto.
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owl
October 29, 2013 at 11:22 AM
I don't know though, her reasons have to be more than merely financial, and I suspect it's not purely a selfish motive. She seems to be on Sejoo's side for his sake against his grandmother, too. Future MiRae can't be all bad -i 'm willing to stick out the story to find out more about her.
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sophia
October 29, 2013 at 9:42 AM
elvira, I SECOND the Mi Rae - Se Joo shipping.
Also, for those who feel the need to poo poo this since that isn't how real life works...I would remind you that this is not real life. It's a drama. In real life heroines probably wouldn't always pick the cocky lead and leave the sweet, doting second lead behind either. also...there's the time travel business.
So....I'm fully behind supporting the unlikely but awesome underdog story...even if we are disappointed at the end.
I just find the critique of a comment based on the idea that dramas should be like real life strange since this is precisely NOT real life. and also the critique that there isn't a point to writing a drama about time travel similarly bizarre. it's called fiction.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 10:11 AM
I just want her to have one of them as a husband and the other as a friend. The thing is..we don't know how chaebol's future choices are now affected. If he goes all adventurous and gets the filmmaking bug becuse of Mirae, he could end up poor and not willing to take money from Grandma. Just because he's rich now doesn't mean he'll be rich later. I do want them to be rich, though. So maybe Present Mirae could start saving a nest egg from all the stocks Future Mirae knows...so whatever happens, whoever Present Mirae marries, Mirae will have her own money.
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Mariah
October 29, 2013 at 11:17 AM
I had that thought too. I bet it will be a theme that See Joo being with the mean anchor in Time1 is one of the things that made him fall into the life he ended up having in Time1, namely rich and conventional. Not at T2, he's affected by having met Mirae first and seeing her world; that could easily lead to a radical departure from the outcomes of T1.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Wow! true that! Hadn't thought about the possibility that chaebol somehow affected/caused Shin's downfall.
28 Petitedov
October 29, 2013 at 9:11 AM
I'm bummed that the show has low ratings. Hopefully it will gain traction soon.
While this episode felt a bit at a standstill, it was definitely needed - especially the growth Future Mir-ae shows towards Shin.
I love how well it gets the quiet romantic moments - a hard thing to achieve in kdramaland - since I think a lot of dramas (that I've seen) make romantic moments clunky and plain unrealistic. From the way Shin and Se-joo wait for Mir-ae, to moment on the couch and others in previous episodes this drama gets it right. It's also delightful to see Mir-ae think she's hot stuff (2 awesome guys to choose from, who wouldn't think that) - so I think it will be nice to see mature over the course of the series.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 10:00 AM
they really are great guys, ren't they? And the way Chaebol was looking at Mirae...wow! It's as if ..he also found his own talent, just as Mirae has begun to find hers. He will do great things because Mirae appreciates his art. Future Mirae has brought self-confidence to everyone....except Shin. But am glad she challenged him at the end of the episode.
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Faye
October 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM
Wouldn't that just be some delicious irony, if Future Mirae's meddling actually caused Se-Joo to leave the chaebol path? Imagine him giving up the family dynasty to become an artist instead. That would be kind of hilarious. Future Mirae would freak.
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laraffinee
October 29, 2013 at 7:39 PM
I was thinking that too...and every time present MiRae makes a different choice, Future MiRae would probably get dizzy and such since she would have to change a bit in response to the changes in the present. I still wonder about whether they had children, and doesn't FMR care if the changes in the present affect the children - or did they not have any?
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Faye
October 30, 2013 at 2:18 AM
Good question about the children. I wonder if we'll find out.
29 sophia
October 29, 2013 at 9:27 AM
LOVING THE SHOW. cn blue-boy is doing a way better job acting than in past dramas (I still love you though Shin Woo... if dramabeans ever creates a merch section - please make a t-shirt that says "Go Mi Nam! Pick Shin Woo!"). I'm legitimately torn about who I want her to end up with, which is awesome.
maybe its because I'm old but...I'm liking this way better than the high school shenanigans on HEIRS. If it weren't for all the pretty.....
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Elena
October 29, 2013 at 10:59 AM
oh, I agree. I was really into Heirs until they went back to school... they look like a mix of college and high school. which messes with my head. Is bizarre. And tha tpot head surfer dude ! over kill on the ugly american theme.
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Mariah
October 29, 2013 at 11:18 AM
I really thought I was the only Shin Woo shipper. The date they had that they didn't actually spend together is my favorite part of that show.
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sophia
October 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM
solidarity sister.
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kaede
November 25, 2013 at 5:07 PM
I was rooting for this drama more than "Heirs" even though I like Park Shin Hye. Not digging the storyline of "Heirs" no matter how costly the production was. If I were to watch high school dramas, "Dream High 1" and "Jungle Fish" had way better interesting plot than "Heirs." (sorry Shin Hye.)
As for MHIYD, I will catch up with this story...
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30 submit
October 29, 2013 at 10:51 AM
I like this episode. even though it's slower in the plot development, but we see lots the characters growth. All four leads have layers to them and not just one dimensional. I even feel for yoo kyung, how she become the way she is. I rooted for shin/mirae and seju/yoo kyung. I like it if we have 2 cute couples rather than the love triangle whatever.
Also, the director definitely loves yong hwa's hand. There's a shot of his hands in every episode. can't argue that he has pretty hands. And funny how he can't get rid of his lip licking habit. He did it a couple of times in this episode.
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 10:54 AM
So far, so many water scenes between Mirae and VJ....I'm waiting for the water scene that trumps all water scenes to happen between Mr chaebol and Ms aegyo.
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31 Lindy
October 29, 2013 at 11:34 AM
I think Future Mi-rae is a very unreliable narrator. All we really know about the future lives of Shin and Mi-rae is what she tells us. I think she is leaving a lot out deliberately. Like when she says to Mi-rae "do you know how hard it is to be a two-timer" when Mi-rae tells her she is going to see both men to make up her own mind. Anyone else get the feeling that she is speaking from experience here?
On the other hand, Present Mi-rae is becoming more assertive and liberated by the second. She says to herself that she's not doing anything wrong by seeing both men. She's free to make her own choice and the only way she can do it is by comparison shopping, as it were. She seems excited by the future even when she is losing her position on the early show.
I like what the writer is doing with Yoo-kyung. She starts out as the kind of woman every other woman dislikes by immediately putting Mi-rae in her place. Now she is at least attempting to get her own point of view across and even, in a very apologetic way, arguing with the chauvinistic director about a better way of doing the stereotypical "look, it's fall! Aren't the leaves lovely" fluffy, gushy news filler. She also thinks about what she is doing as she pours drinks, lays out cutlery etc. even if she still does it. It's a start.
The 4 leads all have something they want to do which was never fulfilled in the old time line. Shin wants to be a respected hard news man that people turn to for the real story. Se-joo wants to escape his family destiny and make films but he lacks the courage to go against Grandma. I think Yoo-kyung wants to be a serious reporter and maybe move into behind the scenes production. Mi-rae just wants to live her own life, make her own choices and take responsibility for her own mistakes.
Also, what's the deal with Oppa? Every episode he's pushing marriage on Mi-rae. He's now starting to get heavy with the men he thinks might like her. Playing the responsible older brother/protector card, I know, but it still seems a little too much. No wonder Future Mi-rae felt stifled. What's happening? Does he feel he can't live his own life until Mi-rae is properly off his hands, i.e.married? Is Oppa gay?
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CaroleMcDonnell
October 29, 2013 at 12:10 PM
with a pushy oppa like that, no wonder she rushed into the arms of the first charming integrity-filled gorgeous anchorman she had a car accident with.
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Lindy
October 29, 2013 at 2:23 PM
True. She even agrees to allow him to arrange her marriage with a man of his choice if the whole writing gig doesn't pan out. But, in the dream both Mi-rae and Shin have, she's still in the hospital, Shin's on the bed beside her caressing her face. It's a sweet romantic moment but there's Oppa demanding to know what's going on.
I think he might have rushed them into marriage too quickly in the original time line to serve his own agenda. Which is what? Now he's trying the same thing with Shin but playing a two-on-two game of basketball is not nearly as compromising as being caught lying on a bed together. And besides there's now another guy who likes her.
Oppa even seems to be remarkably sanguine about the whole selling the family home and moving to the country thing when all the others are not happy at all. He really seems to want Mi-rae out of his day-to-day life. There is something going on with him.
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thursdaynexxt
October 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM
We still don't know much about Future Yoo-kyung, except for the TV interview where she was clinging prettily to Se-joo's arm.
But the fact that she got to meet Present Se-joo like this gives her the chance to think about her job and do better than settling for being called just a great pair of "artistic" legs. The fact that Se-joo doesn't fall all over her and she's the one with a one-sided crush is also a nice salutary reality check. (I honestly felt sorry for her in the bar scene!)
I hope all the characters will find better versions of themselves!
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Lindy
October 29, 2013 at 2:43 PM
It's great how both Mi-rae and Yoo-kyung are now starting to think for themselves in the new time line. Showing what real female empowerment is all about instead of setting up a bunch of straw men and then knocking them down. I can see why this drama is not pulling in great ratings because it is actually quite subversive for a society that is still fairly patriarchal but with rapidly changing gender roles.
Yoo-kyung, in the new time line, meets Se-joo as a flawed but real woman instead of a free spirited nymph rising from the sea which is a classic Jungian anima projection for a certain type of man. He's going to get to know her instead of his projection of what he wants his ideal woman to be. And Yoo-kyung can grow from this as well. She's starting to think that the strategies she's using now, while successful in the short term, are never going to get her what she really wants out of life.
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32 Rovi
October 29, 2013 at 11:52 AM
Why is this show low ratings-wise?! Are we zoning in to those dramas with high ratings but less neuron usage, and low ratings but high enjoyment and logic???
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33 Chandler
October 29, 2013 at 12:15 PM
I honestly didn't think this episode was slow at all especially when compared to other shows right now like Heirs, Unemployed Romance and even Answer Me, 1994. This has been the one show that keeps moving every episode. I think this episode was one of my favs because we saw some great development form future Mi-Rae and see that shes actually going to help Shin. I was very satisfied.
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34 salina
October 29, 2013 at 12:40 PM
as each episode airs i find myself disliking Future Mi Rae more and more. i really wanted to like her, but i just find her really unlikable. maybe she should be with Se Joo just so she doesn't become like her in the future!
but no, the chemistry between Eun Hye and Dong Gun is undeniable and i really like them together. so sorry, rooting for Mi Rae and Kim Shin. they are naturally gravitating toward each other...so i think as much as she wants to, Ahjumma Mi Rae won't be able to cheat fate.
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35 Stuart
October 29, 2013 at 12:48 PM
I'm still hating on Evil Hag Ahjumma - I laughed or smirked every time she teared up or was in pain in Episode 5 - nothing has yet happened to make me feel any sympathy whatsoever for her, and I'm really looking forward to her getting a good old-fashioned smackdown from Time Cop. It WAS a slower episode for sure, I hope we get back to more focus on building the two OTPs soon.
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36 Sarah A.
October 29, 2013 at 1:44 PM
I think objectively, this drama could be a lot better. But I'm enjoying it, so the ratings are depressing to me. Not a lot makes sense to me at this point, but I'm hoping we get more direction soon. Because there are a lot of random scenes in there that seem to aim at either solidifying our OTP or getting the story to move in a particular direction, which is great, but they seem disintegrated from the story. Example: Darth Vader and Mulan/Cinderella scene in episode 4. It was hilarious, probably focused on providing comic relief and getting our leads to spend time together. Does it make sense? No, not really.
And things like that are the weakness of this drama. Not that I think about much of these things as I'm watching it. But it's mainly reflective when I'm done with the episodes.
I do enjoy this drama lot though. Despite its inconsistencies.
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37 altran
October 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM
Love Kim Shin and Mi Rae, which is why I'm watching. But not gonna lie, I can't get into the show because I don't buy that MR and Ajumma are the same person! Her supreme disconnect with MR's feelings and how jaded she is seems so left field, and since we can't see the direness of Ajumma's situation and what brought her to this state, I can't believe her.
It's kind of killing the drama for me :(
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38 Noelle
October 29, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Oh shit! Did the chairman just die? Damn!
K, I hope the time cop shows up next episode and we get this awesome cat mouse game with a bunch of misunderstandings of who Future MR and the TC really are. Awaiting funnys.
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39 Andy
October 29, 2013 at 6:03 PM
I know ratings do not exactly reflect the quality of the drama but I still find this rating very low, especially since it stars Yoon Eun-hye. Wasn't she widely regarded to be the queen of ratings? I have been away from k-dramaland for a long time but I'm sure she's still very popular. It's just her dramas don't seem to be a huge hit anymore. It's still too early to say anything about Mi-rae's Choice though.
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windsun33
October 29, 2013 at 9:05 PM
I am hoping the ratings drop is temporary. While I can see Housekeeper getting better ratings, I have doubts that Empress Ki will hold on. I know that I don't intend to watch, but that is because I hate saeguk's.
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zodd
October 30, 2013 at 1:13 AM
YEH hasn't been a big ratings draw in years.
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40 Kelinci Biru
October 29, 2013 at 11:57 PM
Yay! Finally something I really enjoyed watching Yoon Eun Hye in. After Coffee Prince this is the first time I'm really excited watching her.
Now, I really don't care who she ended up with. Love both of the suitor^^
The one thing I said after watching the last scene was : someone FILM IT with you freaking smartphone!!
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41 kles
October 30, 2013 at 12:37 AM
I was just watching the MHIYD segment in Entertainment Weekly recently, and they showed LDG as a singer in the past… and I suddenly realised he’s the singer guy in the Korea-Japan movie “Friends” with Won Bin, right?? Anyone watched that too? He’s lost a lot of weight since! I’m loving all the 4 actors in this show, fighting! Please get >20% and we can see LDG and JYH do a silly dance!
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42 Moredrama
October 30, 2013 at 2:59 AM
I am so much hoping that MR will end up with Se Joo...
But as expecting from K drama...sweet guy always lose a.k.a will not get the heroine at the end. Kind of "not interested" if Se Joo end up with that YK.. It would be better for me to use my time for something else rather to watch him end up with YK..boo...
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43 Cris
October 30, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Hi! I really love this drama. Besides being the comeback of the Lee Dong Gun, the drama is different from other dramas. But I just don't understand why it has poor ratings? I feel really bad for the casts especially the leads, Yoon Eun Hye and Lee Dong Gun. Both of them are the rating killers back then. It hurts to see NRs in the ratings. I just don't see why people don't like it.
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44 Naneki
October 31, 2013 at 9:20 AM
I'm beside myself in bated breath. I'm hankering for her to make a choice all ready, and I'm beside myself in that I can pick between the two male leads.
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