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Heirs: Episode 8

This is kind of a bipolar episode. Or, maybe it’s just an episode that makes me bipolar, which I’m fully willing to believe is the more accurate conclusion. In any case, things are good for a while when both boys start to step up with some moments of honesty and Eun-sang asserts herself in little ways as the budding romance takes on a new dynamic. But then the love triangle becomes a literal tug-of-war, only with a human girl instead of a rope, and then Show and I have words.

 
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EPISODE 8 RECAP

Tan storms over to Eun-sang at work to confess that he likes her, and will be getting personally involved in all her business at school from now on. What, like you weren’t before?

She brushes it off like he’s got nothing better to do with his time, but he wants an answer from her, right now. She looks up at him, conflicted… and she’s saved by the bell when he gets a call from Dad.

He ignores it, and then a second later, Eun-sang gets a call from his mother. He barks at her not to answer, but she says while he might have the choice to ignore his parents’ calls, she doesn’t. “That’s the difference between you and me, and I think that’s my answer.”

He yanks her phone away and tells his mother to call back later because they’re having an important conversation, and hangs up. Pfft. And then he orders Eun-sang to like him back, which I guess is supposed to be swoony, but mostly sounds like he’s being a petulant child.

She’s finally had enough and starts to cry as she tells him to give back her phone, saying that it’s expensive to her, and she needs it to text with Mom and hear from her part-time employers.

And then suddenly mid-fight, Tan asks, “If I want to hold you right now, am I crazy?” He pulls her close for a hug.

Tan: “Don’t cry. And don’t say that you dislike me. Say that you’ll think about it. I’m asking you.” Well that’s certainly an improvement from the last version. Good job. Eun-sang lets herself cry on his shoulder for just a moment.

Once they get home, Madam Han greets Tan with a barrage of questions, and he gives the excuse that he went to go see Eun-sang to request that she keep her mouth shut about him hitting someone at school today. Madam Han’s ridiculous first question: “Is he richer than us?”

Tan is the one to point out that her question should be whom and not how much he’s worth, and trudges off to see the chairman for his impending lecture. Madam Han tries to pry the information out of Eun-sang, who keeps her mouth shut per their cover story. Madam Han adds the petty gripe that Eun-sang shouldn’t be seen with Tan outside of this house, because What would people think? Blerg.

Chairman Dad already knows about the incident and asks Tan why he hit Young-do at school. Tan just points out the absurdity of his sudden interest in his life when he’s done far worse, but back then Dad was always too busy to care.

Dad says that he has to be busy for the company to go ’round, and Tan notes sardonically that due to Dad’s astounding work ethic, he and hyung will be bequeathed more of Dad’s inheritance than his interest. Snap.

Dad’s final warning is to keep from complicating his mother’s job at school, to which Tan says pointedly that his mother is Dad’s mistress. My, my, did someone have his Sassy Wheaties today?

He comes out to find Eun-sang on her way out from speaking to his mother, and she asks with a long sigh for him to leave her alone in this house. He follows her anyway like a yappy puppy, insisting on apologizing for his mother or doing something to cheer her up.

Eun-sang doesn’t want to be caught daring to speak to the young master in the house, and asks him to leave again, but he points out that it’s his house. She decides she’ll go then, and he says pretty much anywhere you go in his house, it’s his house.

And then he adds, “Do you know how glad I am that you’re in my house?” It doesn’t work to get her to stay, and he sighs as she heads to her room. He plops down on his bed and stares at a book of poems called Almost As If We’re Living Together.

Eun-sang decides to set her alarm for even earlier the next morning, determined to avoid going to school together. She notices a post online (lol, he still hasn’t logged out as her, lying liar) of the book cover in his hand, with “living” changed to “sleeping.” It makes her smile.

She gets to school at the crack of dawn, but to her utter surprise, Tan is sitting on a bench waiting for her to arrive. He says he meant what he said yesterday about meddling in her business from now on, and pretends not to have heard the part where she told him not to do that. He’s satisfied for now to have seen her arrive, and pats her on the head before walking away.

Manager Yoon comes by Won’s hotel room in the morning to say that he has a breakfast invitation from Young-do’s dad, and though Won bristles that they’re hardly friends, Manager Yoon thinks it might be a good idea to take him up on the offer.

Won finds out at the office that there are complications with their latest hotel construction because of Zeus and offshore investor strings being pulled behind their backs, and decides to play hard-to-get with breakfast for now.

Madam Han struggles to get out of bed with a wine hangover, and Mom starts to write a snappy comeback (for her to stop drinking so damn much), only to realize mid-sentence that she maybe ought to rethink it.

Madam Han catches her trying to scratch out what she wrote and chases her around the room, leading to a bizarre slow-motion feather pillow fight, because why not. I’d swear these two moms couldn’t live without each other, not that they’d admit it.

Tan waits for Eun-sang in the hall outside the broadcast club, having heard that she’s meeting Hyo-shin to find out whether or not she made the cut. He offers to lobby for her since he’s friends with Hyo-shin. When she asks what kind of lobbying he’d do, he opens his jacket and suggests coyly that he can offer up his body. Ha.

Bo-na steps out from the room after having done her lunch broadcast, and Chan-young walks up with a drink, posing as a fan. Tan rolls his eyes at them, but Eun-sang sees Chan-young as her escape.

Tan sticks his arm out to block her path thinking he’s all smooth, but she just ducks right under it and runs off with Chan-young, leaving both Bo-na and Tan fuming impotently.

Bo-na turns her attention to Tan and asks if he’s camped out here because he still has feelings for her, and Tan laughs, playing into her delusion with a characteristic, “Do I?”

She sighs that she knew it, and declares that she’s very happy with Chan-young. He reminds her that she used to like him very much, and she chafes at the “very,” muttering that he obviously has good taste and all, but she’s taken.

He’s too amused now to turn back, and declares that he still likes her. (How is anyone going to take you seriously when you do this for fun?) Bo-na cries with utter sincerity that he needs to forget her and move on. Hahahahahaha.

Eun-sang tells Chan-young that she doesn’t know how her nouveau riche story went this far, but plans to out herself. He surprises her with the advice to just keep it under wraps for as long as possible and just graduate quietly, and adds that the bullying victim Joon-young is transferring today.

Eun-sang watches Joon-young’s sad march toward the school gates, regretting that she didn’t even get to say thank you. Bo-na’s friends walks up to introduce themselves to Eun-sang, and note Joon-young’s departure with the wish that he take all the charity cases with him.

Eun-sang ignores another call from Don’t Pick Up, which Young-do sees plainly because he’s breathing down her neck as he calls. Can we put a bell around your neck or something? Sheesh.

He gets faux-offended and pouty at his number being saved as Don’t Pick Up, and demands to see how she saved Tan’s name in her phone. She changes his to Young-do to get him off her back for now, and he tells her that her name is up on the announcement board.

She runs up worried that it’s for something bad, but finds the official notice for her acceptance into the broadcasting club. But the more curious thing is underneath: Eun-sang finds the note she left for Tan back in California. Wow he actually found that thing?

She asks him about it, and though he plays dumb, we see in flashback that he found it after all, peeking out under the massive pile-up of flyers. He complains that she wouldn’t return a simple request for a phone call, but bothered to write that note, and she asks why he wanted her to call.

He sighs that it took her this long to ask. He wanted to know where she was and when she was leaving, and “If you can’t not go. Don’t go. Stay with me. I miss you.” He asks if she’s still thinking about it—his confession, her answer—and she deflects and heads (in the wrong direction, ha) to class.

Watching the whole time is Rachel and a bemused Hyo-shin, who finds all this entertaining and playfully offers to hit Tan for her. She asks about the herbal supplements he’s taking, and he makes yet another joke about what studying for college entrance exams does to make you age rapidly.

Tan sees her and asks for a chat, and straight-up tells Rachel that he likes Eun-sang. She scoffs that he actually said the words, wondering if he wants permission, or for her to disappear.

She reminds him that unless he’s totally lost his mind, there’s no way he ends up happily ever after with a girl like Eun-sang, and he doesn’t disagree, but he’s also decided not to think anymore, and just do whatever he wants and deal with the consequences later.

Tan says he has enough mountains to climb without adding Rachel as one, and asks if they can’t go back. “We were friends once.”

Rachel grits her teeth and tells him he’s making the wrong choice, admitting in the end: “And if you thought I wouldn’t be hurt, you were wrong about that too.”

Manager Yoon checks in on Chairman Dad for another of his regular hospital check-ups, and continually eyes the mysterious envelope from the mystery person sitting on his nightstand. The chairman asks Manager Yoon about why he originally recommended Eun-sang’s mother as a housekeeper, and he recounts having met Eun-sang’s parents back when they used to run a pojangmacha and he was a regular.

He says that Eun-sang’s father was in the hospital for a long time before he passed away, and Mom is still steadily repaying that hospital debt. He asks now why the chairman sent Eun-sang to Jeguk High, thinking it an act of kindness.

Chairman Dad: “So that she hears it from at least a hundred mouths—the reason why she can’t be close to Tan.” Gah, I knew you were going to end up being nasty. Manager Yoon takes that barb to heart, so much so that when he runs into Rachel’s mom outside the high school, he tells her he was just reminded of why they broke up. He purposely answers a call from Hyun-joo just to raise her hackles.

Hyun-joo is busy downing an instant ramyun before her tutoring session, and Hyo-shin sees her on the street and tells her he’ll be late just to give her more time. That’s cute. At their lesson, he nags her not to eat badly and leans in so close he’s nearly kissing her, just to say he can smell her ramyun breath.

I love that he follows it up with: “You need to check my homework before we advance, right?” But the word for “advance” is the same for level of physical intimacy as it is for lesson plans. Everything he says to her is double-edged that way, but she’s found a way to pretend she doesn’t notice.

Young-do uses a judo match to request that the family portrait be cancelled (if he wins, of course), so Dad agrees and then proceeds to cheat his way to victory by choking his son to the mat, and then telling him that winning’s all that matters. Gee, what a sparkling example of humanity. I wonder why Young-do’s such an ass.

Though tellingly, the first thing he does after that blow to his ego is to show up unannounced at Eun-sang’s café. He catches her ignoring yet another of his calls and tells her he came, “because I was lonely.”

He says he dropped the lawsuit against Joon-young because he promised her he would, and then Tan shows up, which puts both boys on edge. Tan is annoyed enough that Young-do found Eun-sang here, but he’s surprised when Young-do names ALL of her part-time jobs, clearly having put all the pieces together on her real income bracket.

Young-do wonders how Tan knows so much about Eun-sang, and they go through a whole volley of witty retorts. Tan: “I’m always one step ahead of you.” Young-do: “Then you should watch your back.”

Tan laughs at the idea of using Eun-sang to get back at him, which just makes Young-do ask: “Are you two dating?” Tan: “Do we look good together? We look good together.” When he says it like a statement instead of a question, it gets under Young-do’s skin.

Tan warns him outright not to mess with Eun-sang, which has got to be a bad idea. He’s basically like, Challenge accepted, and tells Tan to take care of his knees. And just to drive daddy’s lesson home: “On my mat, there are no rules.”

Suddenly the ajusshi at the counter calls out to them to pick up their drinks, and says that Eun-sang already left and bought their smoothies. HA. Okay, that got a laugh out of me. This is what happens when you two are so busy waving your unmentionables around. The girl gets bored and goes home.

They come out with their twin smoothies for cold comfort, and Tan nearly busts a gut to see that Young-do got his bike towed for illegal tuning. He says this is what the law is for, not fake lawsuits. (Oh was Joon-young’s thing faked? I don’t even know if that’s better or worse.)

Won waits and waits for Hyun-joo to come home, and gets all possessive when he sees her arriving in someone else’s car. He storms up to peek inside the car, only to lock eyes with Manager Yoon, who’s dropping her off after consulting her about tutoring Chan-young.

They’re both flustered to recognize each other, and Hyun-joo worries that this means he’ll say something to Chairman Dad about them. Won is beyond caring at this point and tells her he’s moved out for good, so won’t she let him stay with her? From across the alley, someone snaps a photo of them.

Tan lingers in the kitchen, hoping to catch Eun-sang, and finally goes all the way to her door. He fidgets there for a while and still has his hand raised in the air to knock when she comes out.

At first Eun-sang jokes that his mother is coming, but then she really does come into the kitchen looking for Mom, so he pulls her into the dark pantry to hide. They’re pressed up against the shelf and once Madam Han passes, they feel each other’s presence keenly.

Tan doesn’t step away and leans in closer… and closer to kiss her… but sees that she’s practically wincing in anticipation and backs off. What the? What a tease.

They relocate to the wine cellar (she does her homework here to keep from waking Mom), and Tan goes into another jealous interrogation of why Young-do was there and what they talked about.

She says it was weird, but Young-do said he was lonely, and he really did seem lonely. Tan scoffs and asks how Young-do knows about every chicken, pizza, and juice place she works at, which she doesn’t know either. She doesn’t care though since she has no reason to be entangled with him.

But Tan sighs to realize it first: “You’re already entangled. I don’t think he’s messing with you for me to see anymore. He’s doing this because he wants to see you.”

At the same time, Young-do is asking himself the very same question, thinking about Eun-sang and then wondering why he keeps thinking about her.

He shows up to the family photo shoot the next day all dressed up, and Rachel berates herself for trusting him to break up the event. But just as the family gathers, one of Dad’s ex-girlfriends crashes the event.

She greets Young-do as if she hasn’t seen him since junior high, and he reminds her that he saw her in their elevator just last week. Ha. Okay, he’s terrible, but Dad is worse. Young-do makes a point of telling Dad that there are no rules and the only thing people will remember is that he won today.

Rachel has this awesome smirk on her face the whole time, and gives him credit for keeping up his end of the bargain. She asks what it is he wants, and he leans in close before telling her he wants Eun-sang’s customs form.

She wonders if there’s something really going on between them, and tells him that Tan confessed he likes Eun-sang. She half-jokingly wonders if he can’t do anything about that, and Young-do says she might not be able to give him what he wants in exchange. She tells him to succeed first before they talk about payment.

Tan gets the jump on Eun-sang at school, and she asks where he popped out from. Tan, hand to face: “A fairytale?” Pffft. She gets huffy about him following her here, but he pouts that she doesn’t let him talk to her at home (the phrase is “press words to you”).

She snaps, “Words aren’t the only thing you pressed!” She realizes her slip, but it’s too late. He grins like a fool, “Are we just openly talking about that now?” Hee. He complains that she still hasn’t bought him dinner, and she promises that she will once she gets her broadcasting scholarship.

She makes him wait five minutes before coming to lunch, but that gives Young-do the opportunity to grab her plate and escort her to his table, where he forces her to sit in Joon-young’s old seat. Yikes.

He says he just wants to eat with her, but he doesn’t make it a choice. Bo-na looks around for Chan-young or Tan, wondering why they aren’t around for a rescue. Or here’s a thought—why can’t she rescue herself?

She’s understandably afraid though, and asks Young-do what it means that she’s sitting here. He says it’s nothing special, since he just finds this seat comfortable. She tells him that she has nothing to with Tan if that’s his intent, but he says he’s got nothing to do with Tan either.

Tan walks in to find Young-do eating and Eun-sang quaking in fear across the table, unable to touch her food. He asks Young-do what he’s doing, and orders Eun-sang to get up, shouting at the top of his lungs, “I TOLD YOU TO GET UP!” Geeeezus, and you’re better how?

She finally gets up, at which Young-do darts up first to get in Tan’s face about his lack of manners. Tan says he made his date with her first and starts to lead her away by the wrist, when Young-do trips her to the ground. Dude, seriously?

Tan grabs his collar and tempers flare, and Eun-sang rushes to stop them, insisting she’s the one who fell. Young-do says (to either of them or both) his being nice lately must’ve lured them into a false sense of security. Well I wouldn’t call it security, but I did for one half-minute think you might have a feeling or two. Clearly I was insane.

Tan growls that he’s going to kill him, and Young-do claims his victory for making him kneel—just you know, making Eun-sang do it in his place. Eun-sang interrupts and pleads with Tan to take her out of here, so he finally lets go of Young-do’s shirt and leads her out.

Rachel watches all this and points out that he might’ve brought Eun-sang to her knees, but she left with her wrist in Tan’s hand. Young-do sighs that you have to give first before taking away, to make it really land. That’s… scary.

He adds a droll, “You trust oppa, right?” before snatching Eun-sang’s customs form out of her hand.

Outside, Eun-sang cries with her back to Tan, and he’s sweet about checking her for scrapes or bruises. But when Young-do calls her, he barks at her not to answer. She knows enough about Young-do now to know that avoiding his calls will make it worse, and picks up anyway.

Tan rails at her not to, and then rams her with a kiss to keep her from answering.

 
COMMENTS

AUGH, this show. Was that supposed to be romantic? Because I thought the pantry moment was sweet (and obvious, sure) but totally wasted as an opportunity for a kiss, only to have it be followed up with THAT, which was the opposite of romantic, and annoyingly bossy. So you’re not going to kiss her when there are fluttery feelings, but you will when you’re trying to assert your dominance over the other guy? I get that the other guy is terrible, but that’s not an excuse. I don’t know, but I’ve had it up to *here* with these boys barking orders and yanking girls around by the wrist. How about she sits anywhere she damn well pleases at lunch, and you two can dance all you want by the salad bar?

I get that this intertwining conflict is supposed to make it like Tan is her knight in shining armor, but mostly I find myself agreeing with Eun-sang when she asks Tan to leave her alone. At this point, her life would be qualitatively better without him. Seriously. That lunch debacle tipped the scales for me. No boy is worth that crap. And though it’s understandable that Eun-sang is scared about being bullied, I find it extra annoying that for some reason in this universe, boys have to rescue her, as if it’s inconceivable that she’d stand up for herself. What happened to the girl who bought the boys a round of smoothies and left them to stroke their own egos without her? Sometimes I feel like she gets convenient lobotomies depending on what dynamic the boys are supposed to have, which is truly madly deeply lame. Can’t my heroine have a spine AND a boyfriend? Why’s it always gotta be one or the other?

There were moments in this episode when I saw a glimmer of hope, and—dare I say—was actually happy with where we were going, because Tan had confessed (politely), said he’d wait for her response (like a gentleman), and even Young-do showed some vulnerability (like a human) and a possible kernel of a heart muscle (fine, maybe it was just acid reflux). It was going well. And then there was shouting, and ordering around, and tripping, and using girls as pawns, and then I just kind of snapped. If Tan’s arc is that he’s supposed to have started in the same place as Young-do but end up a better man, I NEED HIM TO GET THERE FASTER. Because right now, he’s the same, just less diabolical and more apathetic. And fine, a little nicer, but dude, not enough by a long shot.

The thing is, when we’re not being violent teenage terrorists, I’m not that mad, and I even find Young-do to be layered and interesting. But the violent teenage terrorist thing is kind of like taking that nice layered cake you just decorated with a vulnerable confession and smooshing it with your designer shoes and doing a leprechaun dance on top of it. It’s ruined. And now I want you two to take your war elsewhere, and leave the poor frightened girl with a lobotomy out of it.

 
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From the past recaps I almost believed that Dramabeans were liking the show-that is without loving it....Thank You for proving me wrong because this show is not going anywhere....well if not towards more of teenage violence-teenage terrorism is the word I guess.....
That kiss is the worst in both ways-the situation is bad and the way it is done is worse(Well I am Sorry that I hoped PSH would change her ways-still the Deer in front of the headlights-well may be thats becaus of the situation but if you check her previous shows you cant just complain that its totally because of that
Young-do is getting on my nerves....Dude cant you take your sadistic life to somewhere else?I dont know where and how the writer is going to take that character-the only possible and better way for him to get some development is by killing off that man called his Dad.....
In short.....the show is driving me crazy...
I wish they would take the cast out of high school.....because sheesh....if this is how people are going to be ...then they better be middle schoolers.....

Still....Hoping that you will change for better show.....but with not much hope.....

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Yah, that kiss is so bad. First of all, the rapey tone of it is so off-putting. Kissing, when used for purposes other than romancing one's partner, is just wrong. Kissing a girl to shut her up, or to bend her to your will is so distasteful and repugnant. Any self-respecting girl would be offended. Speaking of which, why can't Eun-Sang just turn her head away? Sure, he's got her wrist pinned, but what's stopping her from dodging the kiss or kicking out with her feet? She does neither, and just stands there, taking it like a good little lamb. Maybe if I were still 12 years old and didn't know any better, I'd squee at it, but I'm a grown woman now, and am just totally over that cave-man tactic.

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The Heirs Top 6 Cutest Casts http://t.co/wowBlJWduf

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Oh yeah,

I forgot to say. I particularly liked the writing in the part where Kim Tan showed no fear against his old, decaying father. He went up against his father's every retort smartly. He is every bit his Hyung. It projects his courage and determination, which I dig. And seriously, I want to see more of this courage---- not just from Kim Tan but from all the other characters, like Bo Na who has her heart in the right place but can't stand up for it. I mean common, sow some good in their worlds, production team.

Overall, I think the drama has to be viewed from a sociopath's perspective to be able to really get what it wants to say. We have to really study the characters and assimilate them to feel something for the show. Otherwise, we'll all just hate them for not conforming to our convictions, beliefs, perceptions, etc...

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I have been 18.
If i had LMH in my closet that close to me. i will gladly kiss him and more. GAWD, that look of fear in ES eyes, nothing close to reality.
18 and fearless. That is how life is!!!

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oh—this is a really random thought—is choi jin-hyuk endorsing that electric razor? he's used it twice already in the show, and it's the first time i'd ever thought a guy looked really hot while shaving... hehe. or is it product placement?

i've decided that tan is corny. he IS sweet and earnest, and thoughtful and introspective and all of that, but the character just continues to strike me as cheesy. i bust out laughing at some of his lines. and back-hugging his brother? really? still, lee min-ho's hotness makes it tolerable.

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oh yesh the back hug,i could almost forgive it but the pink fluffy cardigan. not Even LMH can make me like that!

Then again, i do appreciate that for once kdrama first lead is a sensitive emotional and nice (not chaebol arrogant etcetcetc) kid. its rare and usually seen for second leads who DONT get the girl. I hardly doubt Kim tan is not going to get the girl. I like that he is thoughtful, insightful and that little bit about his writing and interest in reading is NICE. so whats wrong..

I think i know what bugs me for this show now:
every character seems great on paper. I totally can see how this can be a hit story. but the execution is just lacking..and WHY? i cant even pin point why...

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I do not think Tan is thoughtful ,,,, he is worried about the candy girl in part that he understands a good possibility that Young Do might bully her or even attack her, keeping her as his possession. Yet, if he really cares for her, he should know that her involvement with him itself could be so dangerous for her and her mom. Love prevails all is not a reality and living in the household for long time, he should learn it better. Those boys stand where they are all thanks to their fathers. Yes he has a attachment to the Candy girl but does not have a deep love to give up everything for her when/if his father tries to destroy their relationship with every possible mean.

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I am still enjoying Heirs but I don't exactly know why. It's so slow moving, I find most of the main characters extremely unpleasant and I really don't get the whole culture of bullying and intimidation in what is supposed to be an elite private school. I just kind of zone out and go with it then ask myself wtf just happened when the episode ends.

Most of the characters on the upper end of the social spectrum just do not have a clue. They are so removed from normal social interaction that they literally don't know how to behave. They are abrupt, rude and what can only be described as uncouth and boorish. They have no empathy whatsoever. Okay so they are obviously not learning basic good manners at home from their parents but don't elite Korean private schools have such things as deportment and etiquette classes? I attended a private school where such things were taught and the behaviour of both
Tan and Young-do would have been grounds for instant expulsion. We have seen violence, bullying, sexual harassment, targeting of students who are on scholarship and so on. I realize it's a different culture but is there no concept of noblesse oblige at all?

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I WANT THE FEISTY EUN SANG. Not someone who turned to be a pathetic girl. I want her to fight Kim Tan and Young Do - because both don't deserve her.

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after watching ep 7 five times over yesterday and seeing young dos better acting i realised i was a die hard fan of lee min ho because even if he sucked at the acting sometimes i always felt a tinge of anticipation seeing him on screen every single time. and smile like a fool.aaaah am hopeless. im pstponing watching ep 8 until after school so i can sovour it drop by drop for the amaizing red wine it is till am intoxicated and just again anticipating ep 10. ahhh i must be insane.

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Christmas is too far so when is Eun Sang's birthday?
Let's all of us make a nest egg, a pool and so we could buy her a spine! Or a brain! Or maybe both if we have enough! lol

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I agree, I would have preferred the store room kiss. But I get the sense that the writer didn't want to use this trope again.
Though why she'd use the other trope I have no idea why. Honestly, I don't know what the last 5 mins of the show was for. We were doing so well with the puns that the lunch scene was.... Argh.... Just the reinforcement of stereotypical Korean culture. I mean I know how it is and why (high school) is like that but argh... Eun Sang was supposed to have enough sass to overcome that. I hope the writer doesn't fall too far off though. Cus when Gil Ra-im became weak in Secret Garden, it kinda disappointed me and was eventually taken out of my all-time favorite list.

I should note though that Young Do used the same words "cheating" when he was fighting with his dad and when Tan came to see Eun Sang. He said it with such a sad puppy face that I kinda melted a little.

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liked Tan for the most part but the forced kiss took away a little of my love for him.. his character doesn't have as many shades as Young-Do's but I do like him..in the closet scene,he was a perfect gentleman to the girl he loved ..also liked that he tells Rachel outright that he is in love with CES..
KWB is doing a good job btw.. he brings out the loneliness in KWB as well as the evil side..Young-Do is scary and loathsome for the most part.I did warm up to him a little, but he hated him all over again after the tripping incident.

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Is it weird that I found the almost kiss hotter than the kiss. What a waste of LMH's lips

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It's like Korean Gossip Girl hahaha...

And I am digging Rachel as Blair and Young Do as Chuck. LOL.

Also Bo Na and Chan Young add so much more to the story. Lead couple lacking so bad altho damn Lee Min Ho i love your quirky snirky.

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I'm watching this for CJH so I wish he had more screen time. I'm looking forward to the Won and Hyun Joo story line.

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So some rich kids engage to be married that young age in real life setting in modern Korea? This engagement bet Tan and a fox girl is one of the reasons why this drama seems so fictional from the beginning.

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Unlike what everyone seems to be saying...I rather like that CES didn't stand up to YD. It adds more weight to how much power he holds and really drives home the fragility and instability of CES's position. Frankly speaking althoughshe showed female power and such in the prev eps in her wit and stuff...she didnt really see that much of a threat in YD ...also probably because she didnt yet truly understand the social hierarchy. Andnow she does-shes terrified...and I think it woulf be quite unrealistic if she wasnt...it wouldn't be bravery and courage or whatever. ..it would be borderline stupidity to yell at the person with that much power over her. That being said-I enjoyed the first hald heaps better than the last half of the episode... I dont like the wrist grabbing and possessive screaming....but it does leave alot of room for growth and reflection...I hope that's what happens ^^

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Does young do's relationship with eunsang make any one think of kenji kimura and the female lead in gaksital?

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i am liking the ranges of emotions that lmh is displaying i think it takes us all back to high school. the passions of an 18 yr. old everything seems so much more exaggerated at that time in life. and even though my school didn't have such defined lines of classes. we all know that even in regular high schools there are those kind of things going on. i liked kdaddicts comments. it is really a deep layered drama that shows us what a sodial caste system looks and feels like (i think lee min ho is doing such a great job of making us feel those feelings with him-the rage,confusion,hurt,helplessness,hope and passion). keep up the good work lmh!
oh and the pillow fight was hilareous love the ahjumma

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Maybe its quite too soon (yeah right, I know its almost half the show already) to judge the story-line, as I believe next episode is gonna be a huge leap to the story.
As the trailer goes on the end of episode it looks like LMH is leaving. I strongly hope that its gonna happen, bcs it might be the cause of the early confession, pink-cardigan-hug and Young Do immature behavior. To let the character grow from time to time, to show that any human being got that process which most of any other series skip.
Most of the male character in this kind of Cinderella story drama is always charming, reliable, and got that attitude of I-don't-care-about-money-as-long-as-I-got-you. Yeah right. Since he is still young enough to say "we'll think about it later" and go for the relationship they shouldn't, the sin is quite lower as our imagination got wilder. But I sincerely hope that we will get there.

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Does anyone else also find it fascinating how local, Korean viewers and the international kdrama community often seem to differ in their interests? On sites such as this or koalasplayground everything is Mi-rae's Choice and Heirs. Whereas the clear ratings favorites in Korea are Secret and Empress Ki. A little interesting.

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It's cause the ahjumma demographic is all about saeguks and makjang

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Do you happen to know of an article in English breaking down the demographics of Korean tv viewers?

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This is all from personal experience from growing up in a big Korean community so my word obviously isn't law, just something I noticed from talking to your friendly neighborhood ahjummas. My mom totally eats up the crazy makjang weekend dramas and saeguks. Shows like Jumong and Jewel in the Palace were HUGE with the ahjummas here.

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oh please, enough about the ahjumma stuff and them controlling the remotes. you're talking about 35-50 year old married female demographic.

there are many Korean viewers in their 20s and early 30s who are attracted to story instead of the idols. these viewers are single, mature, has graduated from Kpop and idol shipping. they don't care about the genre as long as the story is good.

international viewers are mostly in their teens and even those in their 20s are pulled into KDrama because of KPop and the idols.

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oh wow, no need to get so worked up... I didn't say that to defend Heirs' low ratings (the ratings are low because the story is kind of a hot mess) nor did I say that the ahjumma demographic controls the remote.It was just something I noticed. Saeguk and makjang usually do pull in higher ratings because they cater to a wider audience (younger viewers and ahjummas) while something like heirs probably caters only to teenage girls. If I were an ahjumma I'd want to watch epic sword fights and betrayal and amnesia! over two teenagers taking 20 episodes to fall in love and that seems to be a consensus with the ahjummas I talk to.

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sorry off topic- does anyone know if they'll recap empress ki?

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You know I'm hopping for the bad guy to get the girl. Let's follow up on the cliche please. Let's just make Tan as Eun Sang's first love but Young Do's forever. Lol!

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Agree. I want YD and ES end up together.

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the show is turning me numb....boring like hell...

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Anyone of you think that when Eun Sang's status is finally outed, Tan might stick up for her by outing himself as the son of Jeguk Chairman's mistress?
That would be intriguing no?
Thanks girlfriday and javabeans for your energetic recaps. I enjoy them the most (in comparison to recaps from other sources!). Feather to your caps!

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Thanks girlfriday and javabeans for your energetic recaps. I enjoy them the most (in comparison to recaps from other sources!).

I second that totally!

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Hey all thanks to dramabeans for depicting each episode...it is a good relief wen person who cant watch episode can satisfy wid this....can anybody pls tel me which song did hyung sik(myung soo) played in episode 8 or send a link i really loved it..

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the song is -- 후유증 by ze:a

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Heh, isn't he a member of ZE:A -- not a fan but I seem to remember that someone is -- makes for some funny meta, dancing around to your own song.

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-The hush kiss weren't romantic at all. Eew. I mean after all the mess happened he had time to kiss her? Just eew.
-Young Do just want to have lunch with ES but she misunderstood it. Can they have a scene together without KT "ruining" it? I mean, at the coffee shop, it was good, yet KT popped in. Poor YD. I want them to end up together, but then again he's just the 2nd lead. Grrrrrrrrrrrrr.
-KT was super okay when they were in California, but I'm so irritated with him now. He's hurting R so bad, so inconsiderate. He should break their engagement already for R to move on.

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eun sang and tan must be the most boring couple in dramaland history.

at least youngdo and eunsang has some dynamic

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The only character who has kept me from dropping this drama is Lee Bona. She is so adorably funny. Hope the writers try to incorporate her and Chanyoung into the story more. Honestly find myself skipping other parts and just watching anything with bona.. Thank heavens for her character..

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This is the first time that I'm not shipping for the main couple(KIM TAN, EUN SANG). I watched all dramas of Lee Min Ho and I loved/liked them all. BUT, I find Kim Tan's character here as ANNOYING. SRSLY?? He's creepy...(I can't find another word for that). As in, I understand that he loves her and want to protect her but I can't feel that he's really protecting her, but really? He's like the male version of OVERLYATTACHED girlfriend. pffh.
It annoys me that he's not even her boyfriend yet and he's like bossing her around..
I kind a disagree with the description of tan's confession as gentleman.. It's not.

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I agree 100%. Creepy is a good word for Kim Tan. I like the writer on Heirs a lot. She always puts an interesting spin on her material. What if the slow pace of the first episodes is actually not slowness at all but rather a careful lulling of the audience and a playing with we the viewers' expectations of who is the hero, who's the villain etc given our familiarity with the conventions of K-drama.

Young-do is a jerk no doubt about it. He's the alpha male is an environment that condones bullying, elitism, violence and just general ill-mannered behaviour. I mean where are the teachers? Are there no lunchroom monitors? He's being set up to be the classic cliched villain of the piece but yet we know an awful lot about him. His mother has vanished from the scene. Is she dead or just divorced? His father is a class A womanizing ass who is teaching his son that winning is everything and who would, at least in my country, probably have been charged with child abuse years ago. He once upon a time functioned as Kim Tan's chief minion probably because he was terrified that he would be bullied if he didn't much as his own minions are now. A lot of what makes Young-do the way he is we already know. He's dealing with learned behaviour and learned behaviour can be unlearned.

But what really do we know about Kim Tan? He's the product of a very dysfunctional home. His putative mother is a cold, patrician bitch who has no warmth for him at all. His real mother is a gold-digger who seems to see him only as her entry into an elite world of wealth. His father ... well I really don't get his father at all. But what we don't know is why he was sent to America. At least it's not clear to me. He's illegitimate? Because Young-do knows his secret? Why?

What we do know is that he has:

1. Refused to respect Eun Sang's wishes to be left alone.

2. engaged in what can only be described as stalker behaviour. He shows up at her workplace, is closely monitoring her whereabouts at school and at home, barges in on the one private place she can do her homework, listens in on her phone calls and still has her I guess it's Facebook page open on his phone.

3. has made what can only be termed unwanted sexual advances on Eun Sang. He has told her that anywhere in his home is open to him because he owns it, that she should like him in her "heart" or she and her mother will be both jobless and homeless.

Like you say, Kim Tan is creepy. With Young-do she's clearly wary and on her guard because he is a nasty piece of work but she can at least talk to him and they have had a few honest and real moments with each other. She seems to be genuinely terrified of Kim Tan, though, which would explain the stunned bunny look she gets on her face whenever he gets within 10 feet of her.

Also why is Bo Na so convinced Kim Tan is going to somehow hurt Chan-young? She's a self absorbed little airhead but she's not malevolent. She knows perfectly well who Eun Sang is but she hash't outed her to the others even though she's pissed off at Eun Sang's relationship with her boyfriend. So why not?

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Uggh.. And this is where trouble chaebols and Candy dramas loose me... Whats with the making other ppl trip? Is he 10?!! And kissing people to prevnt them from answerinf their cellphone clearly supports his initial statement of giving her timeto decide... She wont do it cuz shes Candy but I sincerely hope she kicks them where it hurts and runs to the hills.

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Gaaaah leave the poor girl alone! Both boys are so scary!

How the hell should a girl feel good about any of this! Mr. Trippy and Mr. Shouty are always on her ass, FIGHTING! I'd run away and never talk to either boys if I were her. Hahaha

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I don't think the father is evil. I think now that he is sick, he's seeing things in a different perspective.

He's being nice and caring when before he didn't.

So when he says she'll hear 100 reasons why they shouldn't be together? I take that as a lesson in durability, if she can last and survive that, she'd survive adversity.

Just think, his mistress isn't the bell of the ball, JS ;)

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I don't know what to say about Young Do's memories with Eun sang.... It's just sad... hahaha... I mean every moment he've been with her she was terrified or sleeping..

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I can understand some people's complaints about this drama... A lot of the characters are pretty shallow, but I still find myself enjoying this show... hehe. But that doesn't mean I don't have my own share of complaints. I think a lot of people have issues with Eun Sang's character not really having a backbone, and wants her to be more feisty. But in my opinion that would be recreating another Jandi from BOF, so I honestly don't know if I want to see that being played out again. I do agree that it would be better to see her be more courageous and be able to stand up for herself, but at the same time I understand the utter fear that she has with her interactions involving Young Do. There was also moments in the episode when I was thinking, "So why is she crying again?", like when Tan confessed to her and just accepted his hug. It made me confused because the writer really didn't delve into her feelings towards Tan. You can definitely see that she's flustered by him sometimes, but who wouldn't be when a hot guy's all up in your face saying that he likes you. She really needs to build more depth into Eun Sang's feelings towards Tan, or at least I think so.

Regarding Young Do, people say that he's just an asshole, and it's clear that he is one, but I do think that he's in the process of figuring out his feelings for Eun Sang that he doesn't really know how to behave other than terrorize her more (hence the tripping?). It's immature, but I don't think Young Do's character is meant to be the maturest either...so it leaves a lot of room for him to grow. That might be a poor excuse, but I kind of felt myself understanding his point of view. Let's just hope the writer doesn't ruin a complex character.

On a completely different note, I don't know how many of us are korean speakers and watch Heirs raw without subtitles, (and I'm not trying to be disrespectful or anything at all like that to non Korean viewers), but I do think that being Korean or a Korean speaker helps pick up the little nuances that add a little bit of depth to the characters that might not be picked up by watching this with subtitles.

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I totally agree with you about what's possibly lost in translation to viewers that don't speak Korean and just rely on subtitles.

As was stated on the Heirs Episode 7 recap thread, sometimes it's hard to read between the lines when the lines are in a foreign language!

Depending on the show, I will try to view certain scenes on multiple sites due to different translations just to understand the context of what was said better. I am still trying to attune my ears to pick up accents, formal, and informal speech among characters.

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Actually, i might be able to explain eun sang"s reactions. Basically she"s got an inferiority complex which is amplified when shes in school. Shes afraid of being outted as someone on charity programme. Thats why she tries hard to avoid attention and is more docile. It makes her swallow her pride and hide under the radar. In contrast, when shes at home or at her part time job, thats where she can be herself....again...simple gal who does part time jobs.......IIi

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Aye, what's with the forced kiss? Shows never do what girls will do in real life which is kick the guy in the groin and walk away.
I must be seeing things in reverse I didn't see any chemistry between the leads in MS but it's leaping off the screen in bulk with this couple.

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I don't see her as having gotten a lobotomy because of the alleged difference in behavior at her job vs at school. I find her pretty consistent and smart at recognizing the situations she's in (most of the time).

She's really, really good at extricating herself with flair when she can, which is good, because there's no way she can stand up to YD physically, and he's clearly unhinged and reasoning with him will get her nowhere. She's very good at recognizing when she can extricate herself, and when she can't.

AT work, she was on her own turf, no other schoolmates there to taunt her and there are no accomplices for YD, and YD had thrown her (and given her a bit of courage, I think) by just showing his vulnerability with his honest confession that he was lonely.

At school, she's a lot more vulnerable. YD *is* terrifying. IT's stupid not to be afraid of what he can do to her, and what he can get others to do to her. At school, she is alone except for YT and her friend Chan, and neither of them were in the cafeteria at first. She can't just be all cutesy and clever and escape- YD has accomplices who will physically force her back to the table- she already tried that, and she's already seen that the victim will be portrayed as the aggressor in any complaint to authorities. Nobody will support her or be on her side. She's afraid because she has a completely realistic understanding of what's at stake and how vulnerable she really is. She is fully aware of the very real and significant difference between the options she had at work and the options she has in the cafeteria.

As for as the who will be the alpha male fighting stuff, if you've ever read Ender's Game or actually known some male juvenile delinquents, you'd find it more believable. You don't protect yourself or those you care about from the YD's of the world by showing them your underbelly. You do it by showing them you're not afraid and that you are stronger.

The fight in the cafeteria was a dominance issue, but KT has to do that as he sees it in order to protect himself and the girl he cares for. He knows better than anybody what YD is capable of. He's trying to protect her from YD in any way he can, and dominance actually is it. After all, he tried another route once, and that ended their years of friendship in a nanosecond, didn't it?

I don't really see YT's kiss as asserting dominance over the other guy, but his own stumbling, bumbling, very teenaged boy immature reaction to the desperate feelings he has for her. HE's scared for her, as scared as she is, there's all the adrenaline of the episode in the cafeteria, etc, etc.

That said, I am not really defending the show. It's flawed in all kinds of ways even while it's compelling in other ways. It needed all the star power it's got because I don't think anybody would be watching otherwise.

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Ok, so I adore Park Shin-Hye. I was pretty much in the she's-so-pretty-she-can-do-no-wrong camp before Heirs started. I saw her in Heartstrings, Flower Boy Next Door, and You're Beautiful (in that order), and thought, "wow, this girl is good, she's really grown as an actress." So I was prepared to love her in Heirs. And I do... but not as much as I thought I would.

This heroine of ours needs more spunk! More sass! Right now, she's lovely, but she's just too pitiful. I really want Park Shin-Hye to turn up the plucky Gyu Won dial, and turn down the pushover Mi Nam dial.

I still have my fingers crossed, hoping for a turning point for Eun Sang. When she takes a stand. When she actively loves, rather than just seems-vaguely-fond of Tan. What has she actively done for him for now, other than be good company? Ok, so that might be the most vital thing for a lonely guy like Tan, but that can't be all. Especially not in Kdramaland, when you have Mirae on Mondays and Tuesdays, making her own choices, ignoring her future self, actively putting herself in harm's way and caring for other people. I get the whole she's-so-poor-she-can't-think-of-anyone-but-herself-and-her-mum as a starting point, but she can't stay there all drama long!

We're almost half-way through! Hurry up, Eun Sang!

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Yes, I agree, she needs to bail. I can't see where this is going to end well. There is too much meaness too early on - we have many more hours ahead.

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i haven't watched a lot of the episodes yet, but based from the awesome recaps, i realized:

1) bad, bad makeup on main characters..what's up with the pink lips? thick foundations?

2) Kim Tan supposed to have lived in the Huntington Beach area for a few years as part-time student, but why does he dress up like he work and lives near West Hollywood? flamboyant sweaters, i may add.. (hopefully, it will not spill over to real life trend)

3) the progression is very, very slow...8 episodes in already and the show is still finding a firm ground to stand.

i don't want to this to be just all hype. i still have an itsy, bitsy glimmer of hope that sooner or later it will improve...please make it soon.

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I place this drama in the "Seinfeld/Friends" category. A show that doesn't really have a plot, the individual characters aren't really compelling but for some unknown reason you find yourself drawn to it. I really can't explain why I keep watching this show but for some reason I just keep coming back. Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment, who knows? I will admit that, while shaky in parts, this was arguably the most well-rounded episode to date.

I can't help but feeling that the writer and director were like, "let's use every teen drama cliche we have, a star-studded cast, and hot topic; then mix it together, throw it at the wall and see what sticks." The stuff that stuck stayed on the wall but what we're watching is the sludge that oozed down. The problem, unfortunately, is the sludge is still fairly compelling.

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tq GF !

The director says "this is not the time to open your

mouth widely, wait till I say which episode you should

do so", so she close her mouth but you never know in

episode 9 it could be a hot tongue movement kiss.

SO, BE PATIENT AND WAIT !.

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Thank you for the recap ladies, and for sharing your views!

Knowing that KES penned the Lovers series, I wasn't at all surprised by the way in which a lot of the male characters are painted - i.e. authoritative, dominating, loud, boisterous, and a seeming lack of disregard for personal space - and yes, the wrist grabbing too. And whilst that may be really hard to swallow for some, I actually find it rather entertaining. Not that I'm sadistic, but it's just what I've come to expect from KES's writing. Drama. No more and no less. And that is exactly why I'm watching this show. It's dramatically entertaining.

Of course, that doesn't necessarily make the characters any more likeable, but it does spice things up.

If there's one criticism that I have, then it's the seeming lack of narrative more than anything. Because at this point, it seems very repetitive, with certain characters remaining static in terms of development - like CJH, who's just not moving anywhere.

In terms of development, albeit on a more twisted level, I actually do like the way Young Do is presented. The kind of character whom you love to hate, knowing just how flawed they are. And contrary to what others may think, I actually find his characterisation to be the most nuanced. That doesn't mean he falls into the category of "oh my gosh, his character is soo hot" rather, him being an ass is actually really well performed by KWB. He basically plays a damn good villain. At this point, I don't think we're expected to feel sorry for him, but rather absorb how twisted he's become due to various relations.

He's a d*ck, and he knows it. But I do appreciate that with every WT* moment he has in the show, it's always followed by a moment which shows he's not always in charge of his surroundings - like when he's with his dad. And whilst that may not excuse his behaviour, it certainly highlights his conflicted nature.

Honestly, Heirs is actually reminding me of KES's earlier work, in that it's of a similar tone and style. It brings nothing fresh to the table, but in drama terms, i'm actually finding this series rather entertaining. Even the dialogue shines in the best of moments!

Happy watching guys. x

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Man... its really awkward looking at LMH casts as an 18-year old. At least, they should have done something to his make-up and his clothes to make him at least nearing the 18-year old age range. But, this is truly awkward... this is not LMH fault - I put the poor casting on the hands of Directors, scriptwriters etc.

When he hugged his Hyung in episode 7, they should really be within that age range.

Wonder why it has to be "high school"?. They could have at least make it like "senior year in university". at least its believable.

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"LOVE IS THE MOMENT!!!" <-- most annoying song of the year for me in dramaland.

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Is it just me, or is Lee Min Ho getting less appealing with every drama he's in? I don't know if it's the character that's bland and boring, or if it's just bad acting on his part. Why does he always pick the same type of character to portray? Shouldn't he challenge himself with a variety of roles and hone his acting skills? Instead, he's become stagnant, living off the fan adoration he's accumulated from his role in BOF, while doing nothing, acting wise, to live up to the love that fans has showered him with. Base on what he's shown us in recent years, his fame is undeserved, and with every appearance, I fall a little less in love with him.

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Like some of u, I kinda understand why ES acts differently when she met YD at her work versus in school. Sometimes in a different environment/different social setting, people r socialized to take on a different role. Even the uniform u wear, can make one take on a new identity, conform to prescribed roles others expect of you etc, in this case, conform to the student pecking order. It's like that infamous Stanford Prison experiment? Social forces at work.

Also, can't people be inconsistent for god's sake? A person is complex, made out of different facets of personality, moods depending on situations. So isn't it possible to be strong in one situation, then weak in another? Don't we all waver sometimes? Doesn't that make ES less cardboard & more real? Though I'll admit, it may be confusing for us audience at the moment cuz it's probably easiest to follow if the characters have clearly defined straightforward roles? Is ES the candy? The weak girl? Or the tough girl etc?

Okay, got that off my chest! ;D on that note, I'm still enjoying the show, not agonizing over the characters, no matter how weak or diabolical they seem now. Eagerly anticipating the next 12 eps & let the story & characters take their time to develop!

Also I guess next ep, we're gonna c that YD probably found out about the kiss cuz he was listening in or watching it thru ES phone? Since she answered it n KT held it strategically.

YD will probably never get the gal in the end. And that's expected & well. But here's hoping the story will develop such that he had a fighting chance though? A love triangle is more compelling when both guys actually have equal chances? ES did seem to sympathize that YD was really lonely. So there's a start?

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I don't watch this show, but I do read the recaps and go back to watch certain parts of it! I absolutely LOVE Im Joo Eun who plays as HyunJoo and love the story going on between her, Won, and HyoShin. I just wish that they'd give me more of her story. I'm still not clear on it.
Anyways, thank you for the recap! <3

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Are you me? Cause that's how I watch the show. I read recaps then just skim the ep for when Im Joo Eun shows up. She's so sparkling <3

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The only one I can't stand in this drama is Park Shin Hye, I'm sorry, I like her a lot, really a lot, but characters she portrayed are just pretty the same, watching her in this drama remind me of her in Heartstrings and Flower Boys Next Door, Just looking at her face expression make me damn bored. :(

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that's easy. fast from watching any pictures etc of her. live the rest of your life in happiness.

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a little dissapointed now! the girl is not showing strong character etc! and its a bit dull

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