If You Like… Noona Romances
by girlfriday
If you’re anything like me, your ideal drama hero isn’t the cold chaebol with the icy exterior or even the perfect Daddy Long Legs caretaker. He’s the hotheaded ruffian on a motorcycle with a busted lip and a one-sided love for an unattainable noona. Why always a motorcycle? I don’t know. Blame Jung Woo-sung (Beat, 1997). And James Dean.
Perhaps you recently finished I Hear Your Voice and you’re waiting for the next Park Su-ha to come around the bend. Aren’t we all. I spent the better part of the year finally watching the family sitcom Unstoppable High Kick from beginning to end, at a whopping 167 episodes (on the upside, the episodes are super short at twenty minutes each). The thing that kept me going was my tried and true dramaland kryptonite: the noona romance.
I could fill a whole post just naming all the tropes that I love, but noona romances hit my drama sweet spot, mostly because I love soonjung narratives—sweet, innocent love backed by earnest emotion, and a drama sensibility that comes out of a genre of comics called soonjung manhwa. It’s part and parcel of why I love high school stories.
But I find noona romances particularly satisfying because they’re filled with gender reversals. Obviously to have a noona romance, the woman has to be older than the man. But if that were the only reversal in the game, there wouldn’t be much to write home about. The fun part of a noona romance is a reversal in the power dynamic—for starters, the heroine is strong, but she’s also often the boss, the teacher, the one who (outwardly) has her life together. She’s either paired with a beta male (I Do, I Do), or an alpha male in a small pond—say, other nineteen-year olds—who has no power in the real world (Biscuit Teacher).
The hero almost always straddles the man-boy divide, but often the heroine has as much growing up to do as he does. He carries a torch for her, thinking she’s unattainable (my favorite kind of drama angst). Once they’re together, age presents a real-world obstacle. And the army is Hades itself.
All noona-killers aren’t rebels on motorcycles, but that’s the iconic dramaland image because they dare to go against the grain, even if it’s just by saying that age is just a number. Mostly though, you just have to be willing to chase the girl of your dreams with your heart on your sleeve, whether on two wheels or four, or using your student bus pass.
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Biscuit Teacher Star Candy (2005)
The premise: A high school delinquent grows up with dreams of becoming a teacher, and manages to finagle a temporary position at a school under the condition that she keeps the biggest troublemaker of them all in check. She wrangles the punk; he falls for teacher.
This drama is pretty much a soonjung manhwa come to life, with imaginary sequences featuring the heroine literally kicking ass and taking names. It’s one of my favorite noona romances in dramaland, and part of it is definitely the match-up between Gong Yoo and Gong Hyo-jin. Never mind that he’s actually older than her in real life; just go with the fiction. He’s the classically brooding rebel teenager who’s misunderstood and assumed to be a terrible troublemaker when he’s really just a lonely kid with no one to take his side. She’s a reformed misfit herself, and as his teacher she’s the first person in his life to stick to him like glue and tell him that she cares and that she’ll never give up on him.
It works, and he doesn’t just open up to her; he falls hard because he’s young and impetuous. Soon he’s running around declaring his love from the rooftops in what is maybe the cutest display of one-sided love ever. It’s the thing you think you wouldn’t ever root for—for the nineteen-year old to win over his teacher’s heart—but you’re on his side before you know it. How can you not, when he’s practically handing her his bleeding heart and asking her not to crush it?
What’s Up Fox (2006)
The premise: The boy next door returns from his travels abroad as a grown man in a hot body. The noona who’s known him his whole life struggles with this strange new sexual attraction, and the two land in bed one drunken night, beginning their hilariously backwards relationship.
This is one of the great quintessential noona romances that you shouldn’t miss. It’s less zippy than My Name Is Kim Sam-soon (they come from the same writer), but it has one of the more realistic noona romances that could work in the real world. Go Hyun-jung and Chun Jung-myung have a cute rapport that walks the line between too familial and sexually charged, which is the point because theirs is the problem of being TOO close. She’s literally the noona next door who used to change his diapers (or so she claims), so his struggle is to get her to see him as a man.
This drama deals with sexual attraction in a really frank way, which sets it apart from the other usually innocent noona romances. (And the heroine writes erotic romance stories for a porn magazine as her day job, so there are some hilarious fantasy reenactments of her stories that pepper the drama.) We find out that she was his first crush as a boy, but more importantly the object of his sexual awakening; as adults she’s in denial about him being a man, but can’t hide her attraction to him. This drama tackles the tough questions and doesn’t give the couple any easy outs, making their relationship feel earned. It’s also a nice ordinary story about two middle-class people (notably a commonality among many noona romances though not at all a necessary part).
Unstoppable High Kick (2006-7)
The premise: This is the first of the High Kick series of popular family sitcoms that feature multigenerational households full of wacky hijinks and lots of heart.
There are too many storylines to name, and a great deal of them were addictive in their own right, but none so much as Jung Il-woo’s (when he was nineteen!) as the maknae son of the main family, constantly overshadowed by his smarter hyung and blamed for everything that goes wrong in the world. He lives up to the rebel moniker to a tee, fistfights and motorcycle and all.
Much like Biscuit Teacher, this troublemaker meets his match in homeroom teacher Seo Min-jung, who takes an interest in changing him for the better. He spends a good deal of time making her life miserable, but when she refuses to give up on him, he falls head over heels and proceeds to do all manner of adorable puppy things for the teacher he secretly loves.
This romance is mainly thwarted (as is Biscuit Teacher’s, oddly enough) by an uncle who’s sweet on the same girl. He’s everything the rebel isn’t—a grown-up, her equal, and her ideal. It’s more heartbreaking in High Kick’s version because the uncle has the dominant love triangle in this show, not to mention the fact that this kid loves his family. But it also pulls the angst strings a little more because of it, to great effect. Here the one-sided love feels more doomed, and therefore plays up the achingly sweet gestures of affection that go unnoticed by the heroine, that only the hero and the audience are privy to. I dare you not to become a puddle of goo. High Kick is just a good family show anyway, though it’s worth mentioning that you wouldn’t be left completely in the lurch if you picked it up for the noona romance. It isn’t the main story by any stretch, but it can (and will likely) become the thing you end up watching it for.
The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry (2010)
The premise: Three thirtysomething girlfriends tackle dating, work, friendship, and love with a sense of humor. The heroine strikes up a relationship with a man ten years her junior, though in some ways he’s the one who schools her on romance.
I’d recommend this drama for the girlfriend camaraderie and the comedy alone, but it’s also one of the better noona romances of the non-high-school set. Kim Bum and Park Jin-hee play a significant age gap, but the problems are also those of adults who have dated, not the undying first love of a teenaged rebel. It’s as much a story about the start of romance, with all the cute, awkward, confusing, and swoony things that characterize a new relationship. It just also happens to then deal with the specific struggles of dating a noona, from the basic (What do I call her?) to the complicated (How do I explain this to my mother?) and everything in between.
This is one of the more mature noona-killers in this set, by which I mean he’s pretty adult for a man-boy. He’s in a rock band, so he’s by no means buttoned-up, but he strives to act very adult around his girlfriend (which is just not the case for the average noona-killer, who is mostly childish, and on a good day gets his act together to do something manly). If you’re iffy about noona romances, this is a good one to start with.
Baby-Faced Beauty (2011)
The premise: An unemployed but talented aspiring designer gets mistaken for nine years younger (she’s 34, they think she’s 25) and keeps the lie going to work for a design company, where she is treated as the lowly grunt by snotty sunbaes who are years younger. She gets off on the wrong foot with the hero, but they eventually become workplace friends and confidantes. He assumes he’s the oppa and enjoys playing the part, so when the truth finally comes out, the jarring reversal puts the brakes on the developing romance, until they figure out a way around the mindfuckery of her going from rookie kiddo to a noona seven years his senior.
Age is most definitely the central conceit, challenge, and conflict in Baby-Faced Beauty. So while it’s not your standard noona romance, our couple definitely bumps up against the noona issue over the course of their courtship. The numbers screw with his mind in a confusing, head-spinning way that almost feels too mean to enjoy, except that it’s really enjoyable.
The lie goes on for long enough that the dynamic is firmly established by the time it gets all shaken up and needs to be redefined. Suddenly Daniel Choi goes from talking comfortably in banmal with Jang Nara to stuttering in jondae, catching himself in fits and starts and feeling terribly uncomfortable with how everything is suddenly backwards. Nothing’s changed for her, yet when the perception of the power dynamic is suddenly different, there’s no fooling yourself that things are still the same. Plus, the hero has been stepping in frequently to help her (although the drama avoids the damsel in distress quagmire, thankfully) which means that he gets to feel that he’s the manly man, the older and wiser oppa taking care of his younger girl. Then one day the world flips and he’s stuck in a noona romance without even knowing it. Muahaha.
Flower Boy Ramyun Shop (2011)
The premise: A teenage boy is raised in a bizarre bubble of wealth and privilege, wanting for nothing in the world except the ability to understand human emotions. The heroine is the first person to ever challenge him, and he mistakes love for anger and heartburn before realizing that he’ll have to come down from his ivory tower to chase the girl he loves.
This drama has no realistic characters whatsoever. It only barely has one foot in the real world, but that’s kind of its wacky charm. There’s no question that Jung Il-woo is in his element here as the noona-killer, and this character has all the trappings of adulthood—money, status, a laissez-faire attitude about casual dating—that make him seem more grown up. It’s all smoke and mirrors though, because he was raised with such kid gloves that he needs an interpreter to explain things like “jealousy” and “feelings.”
Lee Chung-ah does start out as a student teacher, but this drama isn’t really among the teacher-student set like Biscuit or High Kick. They soon move to a ramyun shop that becomes the main backdrop for the series, and the rich hero takes up a part-time job there just to be closer to the heroine. There’s a fun to the reverse-Cinderella-ness of the series, because while most chaebol heroes bring the girl into his world of privilege, here the average heroine brings the hero down into her world, where he learns how to live among the people. There’s zingy chemistry and the show moves quickly, though you really do have to embrace the comic-book feel to get into the show. Or yunno, you could just check your brain at the door and watch it for the kisses. Mmmm, Jung Il-woo kisses. Wait, what was I talking about?
I Do, I Do (2012)
The premise: An aimless slacker has a one-night stand with a successful bossypants shoe designer. She gets pregnant and doesn’t tell anyone about the baby daddy, and then one day he shows up as the rookie employee on her staff.
The setup is better than the execution in this drama, but it does feature a unique pairing between an alpha heroine and a beta male, no qualifiers, no hedging. She’s the boss in the workplace and in the romance. We do find that sometimes her control freak perfectionist nature is to her own detriment, and to some degree it makes Kim Sun-ah’s heroine cold. But Lee Jang-woo makes up for the warmth in the pair with his adoring noona-loving ways.
The pregnancy takes up a good deal of real estate in the story, even more than the romance, and the workplace drama adds even more filler. It’s not a drama I regret watching by any means, but there are no surprises, and I would’ve gladly traded all the workplace stuff for a meatier romance with more development. There’s so much good conflict to mine in a noona romance with a baby on the way! Alas, everything remains a little undercooked for my liking, despite the couple being really cute whenever they have a chance to let their feelings show. The fast-forward button is your friend.
Big (2012)
The premise: High school rebel gets body-swapped with grown man, who happens to be his teacher’s boyfriend. He falls for her thinking she only sees the man on the outside, while she struggles to figure out if she’s in love with Soul or Body.
There are so many reasons I wanted this drama to work, because what a fun twist on the noona romance—the body-soul confusion is the quintessential man-boy conflict of all noona romances made literal by drama magic. The problem is that it doesn’t answer many of the questions it raises, and instead of trusting that the audience could buy the relationship it had been selling all series long, it copped out and sort of glossed over its own central conceit.
That aside (and it’s a huge aside), it does play with all the notable recurring themes in a noona romance, and does a good job of using the body swap to ask the heroine if she can look beyond the trappings of the external—a man who’s age-appropriate, with money, status, parental and societal approval—or can look beyond that to the heart of the person on the inside, no matter his (very young) age. It’s the usual love triangle of noona romances squashed into one mystical and admittedly head-spinning conundrum, often to amusing effect. Just don’t blame me if you smash your hand through the TV at the end. Consider yourself warned.
I Hear Your Voice (2013)
The premise: A super-powered boy who can read minds nearly dies witnessing his father’s murder. A brave young girl saves him and testifies to put the killer away, solidifying the hero’s undying devotion to her. Ten years later, he finds her again when he’s a high-schooler and she’s a jaded public defender. This time he vows to protect her when the killer comes back for revenge.
It’s actually difficult to sum up this drama’s premise because it’s so many different things (suspense, comedy, romance, law drama), but the emotional through line is the hero’s endless quest to protect the heroine at any cost. Lee Jong-seok is puppy love incarnate, and has an achingly sweet one-sided love for a good portion of the show’s run. My heart still hurts when I think about it, and I mean that in the best way.
Lee Bo-young has never been so sparkling as she is in this drama, where she plays a deeply flawed, petty, cynical heroine—she’s the object of a ten-year-long first love that’s been built up on such a pedestal that no human woman could live up to it. But what’s great about her is that she shatters that fantasy in one fell swoop only to build it back up again, one reluctant caring gesture at a time. If ever there was a noona romance where a boy lived and died with each thing the heroine said or did, it’s this one.
Their relationship takes on many forms, from idealized first love to familial, supernatural, self-sacrificial, and finally romantic love, and the heightened emotion is backed by the life-and-death circumstances of the narrative. This is also a cohabitation noona romance, which is a rare bird, given that most noona-killers don’t usually get this kind of ’round-the-clock access to their crushes. They start out living together because the hero has to protect her from a killer, and that constant threat of ever-living terror is what keeps them attached at the hip. Serial killers be good for something, y’all.
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The Secondaries:
Bottom of the 9th With 2 Outs (2007)
The premise: Two BFFs take the long way around to love. In the meantime, they’re roommates who give each other relationship advice, and the heroine dates a young baseball player who struggles to make their noona romance survive in the real world.
I’d recommend this drama for the main pairing—that’d be Su Ae and Lee Jung-jin—but I actually liked the noona romance early on with Lee Tae-sung too, even if it’s a secondary couple. It’s the non-fantasy version of the noona romance, where real life problems get in the way, and introducing your new older girlfriend to your friends and family is an awkward affair. They discover in a realistic, bittersweet way that a man who’s just starting out in life and chasing his dreams is in a different place from a woman in her thirties who’s searching for that big life-altering love. But they still put their best efforts into making it work, and they change each other for the better.
My Sweet Seoul (2008)
The premise: A thirtysomething careerwoman navigates love and career and friendships in this low-key, thoughtful trendy.
My Sweet Seoul isn’t a rom-com in that it’s not very funny, though it has a lot of the trappings of romantic comedies with the light touches and focus on the heroine’s love life. The noona romance between Choi Kang-hee and Ji Hyun-woo is not the main loveline but it does take up a significant amount of the drama and is often very cute. Still, be forewarned that if you’re watching for noona-lovin’ funsies, this one may be more likely to leave you with a bruised heart.
Ji Hyun-woo is absolutely adorable and wonderful as the devoted young twentysomething; she’s certainly his noona, but he’s mature and thoughtful as a boyfriend. The obstacles they encounter feel realistic and mundane (in a good way); it’s not makjang twistiness forcing them apart, but real-world concerns of what it is to be in different places in your life. You can’t hate the heroine for breaking puppy boy’s heart… only you kind of hate the heroine for breaking puppy boy’s heart. Still, the drama has its lovely moments, and Mr. Voice Lee Seon-kyun is always a draw, especially when he gets to be the hero.
I Need Romance (2011)
The premise: A thirtysomething woman ends a decade-long relationship when her boyfriend cheats on her, and searches to redefine herself as a single woman. She discovers that what she needs is a little old-fashioned romance, and strikes up a relationship with a doting younger man.
This is a drama that has a really strong secondary pairing—some would argue stronger than the main pairing—that you can’t help but want to root for. Choi Jin-hyuk might have something to do with that. Just a little. He has great chemistry with Jo Yeo-jung, and plays a character who’s painfully aware that he loves her more than she loves him… which of course makes us love him more. The age gap isn’t hugely at play (she’s his noona and superior at work, but he’s secretly loaded, which ends up being a problem for her down the line) so this isn’t your average noona romance, but it’s one worth checking out. I won’t promise you’ll be happy about the outcome, but the couple does get its chance in the limelight. The drama also features a great girlfriend trio and a contemporary view of singletons looking for love, sex, and everything in between.
Ojakkyo Brothers (2011-2)
The premise: The youngest son in this family weekend drama has an unconventional noona romance with his sister-in-law’s aunt, which is less weird than it sounds (okay maybe it’s still weird). The couple has two obstacles to overcome: age and their contentious in-law relations.
This isn’t a secondary coupling as much as a secondary storyline in a family drama with a large cast. It’s not the most prominent couple (brothers Two and Three are the ones you watch the show for), but Yeon Woo-jin makes for a good noona-killer any day of the week. All the other romances on this show come with more dramatic downturns, but this one is mostly cute, cute, and more cute. It sort of gets to sidestep the bulk of the angst because that’s not their storyline’s burden, which means you can get to a lot of the hallmark rom-com moments—awkward non-dates that turn into dates, and blind-date interruptions with a “She’s my woman!”—without having to cash them in for tears down the line. She’s also his boss, and he grows up a good deal over the course of their romance, from an aimless slacker who skated by on his looks, to a young man with dreams and a plan. I’d hardly recommend this show for the noona romance since he’s got three older brothers to compete with for screen time, but I love the drama as a whole anyway; it’s one of the more satisfying and addictive family dramas in recent years.
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The Not-Reallies:
My Name Is Kim Sam-soon (2005)
The premise: An sassy foul-mouthed pastry chef starts a bizarre contract relationship with her assy restaurateur boss. Insults, curses, and sparks fly.
I actually don’t think of Sam-soon as a noona romance, mostly because the power dynamic goes the other way for much of the drama. He’s the boss and she’s the employee, and it’s not so much the gap in their ages that’s at issue between these two. It’s true that she’s older and it does add to the long list of reasons why he would never, ever, ever (snerk) fall for her, but the drama’s conflict doesn’t really stem from their relative ages, beyond the fact that she’s now north of thirty and feeling less desirable because of it. It’s not a drama I’d reach for if I were in the mood for a noona-killer, though obviously I love this classic for a million other reasons.
Exhibition of Fireworks (2006)
The premise: Not strictly a noona romance, this one gets the main couple off on the wrong foot with the misunderstanding that the heroine is 20 when she’s actually 30, and the immature hero treats her thusly—talking down to her, rapping her head, calling her kiddo. She puts up with it as they both join the same company as new hires, mostly ’cause he’s also the CEO’s son. Then the truth comes out, he realizes she’s his noona, and then she’s promoted above him. HA. Yay for reversals.
This drama starts off hilarious and zippy, enough to suck you in with the hopes of rom-com zaniness. The heroine is spurned by her longtime boyfriend, whom she worked her tail off to support in his lean unemployed years, only to be kicked to the curb the moment he starts his upward climb. He’s upgrading his life and she just got traded in. She decides to get “revenge” and spies on the new woman in his life, gets caught up in a bickering relationship with the hero (who’s in love with the new woman, of course), and finds herself twisted up in unforeseen complications.
Unfortunately the show loses its center pretty quickly and the rest just gets messier and angstier with characters who do things that make little sense. If there is one reason to watch this show, it’s to see Kang Ji-hwan being present and compelling in the role even as everything falls apart around him, though it’s a bit jarring when he’s the only one still acting by the end of it. Not really recommended, but sometimes you can’t help rubbernecking at the site of a trainwreck.
Queen of Reversals (2010)
The premise: A headstrong woman who’s used to getting everything she wants in life finds her life turned upside-down when she goes from top dog at work to low woman on the totem pole, and from happily married to divorced and single again.
This Kim Nam-joo drama features a romance with a younger man, but they’re both too adult to consider it a traditional noona romance. He’s her boss, and she’s scarred from her divorce—these things are the source of conflict, not so much age. The hero does chase her with puppy-like affection though, so you might find enough noona love there to warrant a watch. It’s mostly a workplace drama and very heroine-centric, with a focus on life after divorce. You could even just skip the first half of the drama, which features the first loveline with her husband who ends up not her husband anymore. The heroine is also more likable if you pick it up after she’s shoved off her high horse, though I’ve never had a problem liking Kim Nam-joo.
Oh My Lady (2010)
The premise: When a selfish and spoiled movie star finds out he’s got a young daughter, his first instinct is to deny, reject, and run away. He gets saddled with a new housekeeper who also becomes part of his management team, and an unlikely rapport springs up between them as she helps raise his child and pushes him toward growing up and learning what it means to be a real father.
Given the ages of the characters, Oh My Lady doesn’t really qualify as a straight noona romance; Siwon’s character is in his late twenties (though he often acts like a sullen teenager) while Chae Rim is solidly in ajumma territory as a divorced mother of a grade schooler. The age difference is present in their relationship, but it’s almost like their circumstances negate whatever power she would have had as the elder, because he is the celebrity and she’s his employee.
The drama has its merits, though it’s not for any sort of noona-ness that Oh My Lady is appealing. Its draw is for the heartwarming moments of growth as Siwon finally starts to take his responsibilities seriously and bonds with his adorable daughter. The romance that develops is less about passion or even attraction, and sometimes feels like it was forced in because it was the neat option for the star to fall for the housekeeper who taught him how to love. Though maturing and embracing commitment aren’t bad themes to end on.
My Girlfriend Is a Gumiho (2010)
The premise: A fraidy-cat slacker frees a gumiho from a mystical scroll, and she terrifies him into being her boyfriend. Her dream is to become human, and he helps her both mystically and socially to shed her nine tails and become a real girl.
If you want to get technical, the gumiho is some centuries the hero’s noona. But she’s basically a kid (not that he’s any glowing example of maturity, but yunno). I wouldn’t call this a noona romance either, though mathwise maybe it’d be more like a great-great-great-great-granny romance, which is a little unsettling. It does have a beta male hero though, who’s extra gutless, so it taps into some of the elements that are characteristic of noona romances, but with a supernatural twist. Maybe we’ll revisit you two when we get to Lovers With Nine Lives, or Interspecies Romance.
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Okay, that’s it for noona romances. Feel free to add to the list with your recommendations. I’m sure I’ll be the first in line to check them out!
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101 MJP
September 30, 2013 at 7:19 PM
One that comes to my mind is "Definitely Neighbors"
Cast
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Kim family
Son Hyun Joo as Kim Sung Jae
Ban Hyo Jung as Lee Jung Soon
Ahn Eun Jung as Eun Suh (Sung Jae & Ji Young's daughter)
Yoon family
Yoo Ho Jung as Yoon Ji Young
Han Chae Ah as Yoon Ha Young
Park Geun Hyung as Yoon In Soo (father)
Jung Jae Soon as Lee Sun Ok (mother)
Chae family
Kim Mi Sook as Chae Young Shil
Choi Won Young as Chae Ki Hoon (brother)
Other people
Kim Sung Ryung as Kang Mi Jin
Cha Jae Dol as Song Joon Suh (Mi Jin's son)
Shin Sung Rok as Jang Gun Hee
Kim Ye Ryung as Jang Sae Hee (Gun Hee's sister)
Park Young Ji as Gun Hee's father
Hong Yo Seob as Kim Woo Jin
Lee Hye Sook as Han Soo Hee
Joo Ho as Lee Nam Shik (new cooking assistant)
Park Sang Hoon as Sang Gyu
Jung Soo In as Yoo Jin
Kim Gyu Jin
Definitely Neighbors depicts happenings around a divorced couple, who accidentally becomes neighbors after their divorce. Kim Sung Jae (Son Hyun Joo) and Lee Jung Soon (Ban Hyo Jung) are married couple. One day, the couple had an argument and their five year old son left the house. Their child died by a car accident. The guilt from their child’s death weighted heavily on the parents and eventually they divorced because of this. As time goes on, the ex spouses meet again as neighbors.
The ex-wife's new love interest is a young chef. The age difference is one of many obstacles they face. Sort of similar to Queen of Reversals storyline.
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102 Ryeblossom
September 30, 2013 at 7:26 PM
I'm not sure it qualifies, but- Me Too, Flower has an older heroine, and at least at first it looks like she has more power. Well, actually, she does have more power in some ways, being a cop and all...
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Ryeblossom
September 30, 2013 at 9:59 PM
I had to add that in real life, she is 9 years his senior. Almost every single time I saw them together, I thought to myself she looks so much older than him!!! (In the drama it was just few years.)
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103 Emi
September 30, 2013 at 7:39 PM
In 'Love Needs a Miracle' (about a single mom and a temporarily disowned and totally out-of-touch with the real world rich guy) the heroine is 5 years older than the guy (the actress 8 years older than him in real life)
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104 Emi
September 30, 2013 at 7:43 PM
Oh, and I think the woman is older in 'Second Proposal' too. I guess these would be more like 'Ahjumma' romances? I like the ones where the woman is *gasp* divorced, or *gasp* a single mom (oh no!) and she is courted by a hot younger guy :D
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105 JadedJei
September 30, 2013 at 8:02 PM
I love noona romances - but only slightly less than the best-friend-turned-lover one. That gets to me all the time! I hope that is one of the segments XDD
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106 Mar
September 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM
I like older female younger male age gap plots because of the subversion of power it creates and yet at the same time the writer tries to make sure the male character comes off as strong enough to be with a woman that is his alpha, or if it's really good writing, they come out with some measure of equality in the relationship.
As I read this post, and read the comments, I struggled to see the nuance between an age gap and girlfriday's definition of a "noona" romance. Because frankly, most age gap plot drivers have all the same elements as what girl friday describes as "noona" romances. From reading the comments, it appears to me that many of the beanies see the age gap as the defining element to qualify as a noona romance.
I also think people sometimes define shows as noona romances based on the ages of the actors, not the characters.
If I was going to differentiate, definenoona romance vs. an age gap romance, I would say it would be the initial relationship-did at any point the male character see the female character as a big sister, or the female see the male as a little brother? If yes, a noona romance. Thus, most of these dramas listed are age gap romances, not a big sister romance. I'd say specifically What's Up Fox and I Hear Your Voice only meet that criteria. I will qualify that with I have not watched Ojakkyo Brothers.
Anything over 12 years of age difference to me qualifies as a May/December romance, not a noona romance-"noona" denotes a certain ability to have grown up together. There is a 12 year and plus age gap between myself and my sisters. They were out of high school before I started kindergarten, and out of the house soon after they graduated high school. I do not remember much interaction with them as a child.
I am totally okay with whatever works in relationships, real life or on screen.
And what about the western cougar label? I dislike the term cougar, as it implies a predatory nature, and in truth that is probably an origination of the term-older women in bars intentionally looking to hook up with younger men for sexual encounters. I think it is unfortunate that it morphed into that any age gap with an older female younger male pairing invokes the cougar term. Most women do not intentional seek out younger men as life partners, because most cultures are patriarchal and females are indoctrinated into the belief that a man should be older than they are. That's why there is no special name for older guy younger women pairings. There is a joke: What is a woman that dates a younger man called? = A cougar. What is a man called that dates a younger woman? = A man. I know a lot of women that have married younger men. Most have struggled with the age gap.
But for k drama purposes I prefer not to be that labeling and just consider any older female younger male age gap pairing a noona romance and keep it simple. Actually I'd like not to label it at all and call it just another part of life.
Biscuit Teacher-Love this drama, struggled with the student/teacher dynamic because of the power element. I have the same power element problem with any boss/ employee romance dynamic.
What's Up Fox-Liked it, but struggled with the drunken sex thing, because that negated her owning her sexuality.
Unstoppable: I've never watched the whole thing but this is certainly in my opinion more high school crush than a romance.
The Woman That Still Wants to Marry: Loved that drama. One of the more balanced relationships.
Baby Faced Beauty-I do not care for this drama and the age thing has nothing to do with it.
FBRS-Probably my favorite drama for many reasons. i want to write papers on this drama. I do not consider that Eun bi had any power over Cha Chi Soo, other than his feeling for her. Unlike Biscuit Teacher, the plot quickly removed Eun bi from a position of power over him.
I Do, I Do-Oh, boy, Ji an is the mother of all power subversions here. I think this drama was great and almost as important in looking at single career women and Dalja's Spring. I loved this character, she was living her life as she wanted. The male character, not so much, or should I say the actor I did not love. I do not mind beta males, but that actor drove me crazy with his mouth hanging open constantly.
Big-The big draw for me was the payoff in the end to see that kid get the girl. Which left me with empty pockets and I am still totally pissed. I do not consider this drama to have a subversion of power.
IHYV-Love this drama. Would have preferred it if the drama makers did not portray Hye-sung as "fending" Su-ha off in a couple of scenes.
Regarding an oft mentioned drama on this thread:
Dalja's Spring-This drama on paper should be my mother load. Problem is, I struggled with wanting to punch Dalja in the face every time she said- I am almost 33. She did not really own her sexuality. And I did not like any of the male actors. And it's too long. All that said, the drama is important I think, and really has something to say about modern women trying to meet cultural expectations. It's like Coffee Prince, in that it has a uniqueness, no other drama really has done what it did.
Also, My Queen-Taiwanese, I like the female lead character, and the romance is quite charming. I like this drama.
my two cents anyway.
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grace
October 2, 2013 at 1:00 PM
you totally my read my thoughts...
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107 refresh_daemon
September 30, 2013 at 11:40 PM
My favorite drama (of the very few I've seen), Alone in Love, has a noona romance as one of the four secondary couplings. It was probably the most contrived and weakest part of the series, though it doesn't necessarily sour me on noona romances.
I'm curious if there are any male viewers here that are particularly into noona romances, since they seem even more specifically tailored to women as a kind of gender inversion of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl. Any gents into this trope?
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Liv
October 1, 2013 at 2:05 PM
"since they seem even more specifically tailored to women as a kind of gender inversion of a Manic Pixie Dream Girl."
!!! I didn't think of it that way but....you are totally right! He's the freespirited, impetuous soul that helps you break out of the rigid structure of your daily life and remember the reckless passion of youth. He's hot and makes you feel young and beautiful again (unlike the socially appropriate but staid second lead who is going to keep you trapped in convention). Similar to the MPDG, he doesn't play by society's rules (although in his case, his excuse is youth not just a natural quirkiness).
Puppy love is totally MPDG trope, gender-reversed!
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108 browncoat_78
October 1, 2013 at 6:29 AM
What about Dalja's Spring? DALJA'S SPRING?!!!!!!! One of my absolute favorites because LEE MIN KI!!!! And also because it has a whole cast of wonderful characters and is a great workplace drama on top of being a great noona romance.
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109 blackitty
October 1, 2013 at 9:19 AM
thank to you Im going to check all these dramas........
by the way you forgot dal ja's spring
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110 Lilian
October 1, 2013 at 9:51 AM
A very comprehensive list indeed! First up , BIG aka a big disappointment indeed....it did start off not too badly =)
I Need Romance was a surprise and I gotta say I was rooting for Choi Jin Hyuk too!!
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111 swirlydoodle
October 1, 2013 at 4:54 PM
Thank you for these theme posts!
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112 Wen
October 1, 2013 at 10:50 PM
I am so happy you posted this as noona romances are also my favorite. They just hit my puppy-woobie spot so dang hard (reason why I'm loving Good Doctor too.) I Hear Your Voice was so satisfying, so if any of you love noona romances you will definitely love I Hear Your Voice. If you wanted to watch 18 episodes of a boy swooning at every word/touch from the heroine, IHYV is your drama.
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Jihye
July 31, 2017 at 5:03 AM
done watching IHYV and witch's romance. my noona killers are Lee Jung Suk and Park Seo Joon... so hot
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113 Wens
October 2, 2013 at 4:16 AM
Didn't think I am one for noona romance, then I realised I have seen quite a few on the list.
The top one is definitely I hear Your Voice, though the plot is just fab, with or without the noona romance aspect (ok, better with it, suha <3).
The other one being Biscuit teacher, oh young boy and bleeding heart, oh love.
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114 Maria Jara
October 2, 2013 at 5:10 AM
Sad or good part of this, is that I am only missing 4 dramas of this list. The worst or the better is that I have been into kdramas for only 2 years. :P
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115 Trin
October 2, 2013 at 7:36 AM
This was cute! Love the noon romances!
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116 grace
October 2, 2013 at 12:43 PM
I JUST LOVE ALL THE NOONA ROMANCE ... and watched it all...... only i left in the drama is i hear your voice.... i am gonna watch it RIGHT NOW
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117 whatsthescenario
October 3, 2013 at 8:20 PM
Hahaha, I've watched 98% of the Noona Romances listed here (even the secondaries and not so much ones). I'm truly kdrama addicted. But I love a good Noon Romance done right, which is why I loved I Hear your Voice. The intricate balance of power was very well done. I love that the writers didn't shy away from actually showing their physical attraction towards one another.
Let's not talk about BIG...such a cop out
I will start watching Dal Ja's Spring now that Master's Sun is over (god I loved this series) and waiting for Heirs to begin.
Thank your for your If you love... series. They bring back great memories and allow be see ones that may have slipped my radar!
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118 Belle
October 4, 2013 at 5:42 PM
Thanks girlfriday for this awesome recs! Even though I'm in a middle of quite a few dramas, I'm always looking out for more.
I freakin' love noona romance, there's something so endearing and awesome about it that keeps me coming back. I think I'm going to have to re-watch Biscuit Teacher Star Candy!
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119 UrsulaX
December 1, 2013 at 9:08 PM
I’m surprised at how many of these I’ve seen, since noona romances tend to make me uncomfortable. In general, I don’t really like big differences in maturity, and the teacher-student relationship kept me from truly enjoying Biscuit Teacher Star Candy. Despite my misgivings, though, I liked I Hear Your Voice and Flower Boy Ramyun Shop. I would agree with other posts that Dal Ja’s Spring is a big omission and pretty likable. I would recommend Bottom of the 9th and 2 Outs, as well, though the central couple is the main reason to watch. It’s also hard to discuss noona romances without mentioning Kimi wa Petto, but I guess we’re not considering J-dramas.
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120 fat_crayon
December 7, 2013 at 5:57 AM
There's a drama called in 2004 called Snow White. Its leads are Kim Jung Hwa and Lee Wan. It also stars Yeon Jung Hoon as the second male lead. Personally I do not find the drama spectacular but it fits into the genre of noona romance, though the age problem is not really emphasized(especially in the later part of the drama).
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121 Phil
June 20, 2014 at 1:39 AM
Just saw a Japanese drama called "Last Cinderella" - it had good comedy and left me wanting for more. A bit on the cable/HBO rated R romance between an older woman and a handsome young man 15 years her junior. Just wanted to keep the list updated for the next reader who's looking for more options!
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122 chrysmas
July 10, 2014 at 5:27 PM
I wanted to add "Romance" with Kim Ha-Neul and Kim Jae Won...she was ...I believe six or seven years older than him and became his teacher...The kiss scenes were literally HOT(watch it and you know what I mean LOL)...and Kim Jae Won played his boyish puppy love role to a T. His love was similar to that of Gong Yoo's love in"Hello My Teacher".
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123 dearsunggyu (@sunggyudear)
December 13, 2014 at 8:39 AM
I think you should update the list, there have been many noona romance lately, such as Witch's Romance, High School King of Life, Secret Love Affair.
And I don't agree with you saying Dalja's Spring have nothing in it to fit into Noona romance, while in fact it does deal with typical hard to accept the man because he's younger, Dalja is 33 and Taebong is 6 years younger. That's all what it is for Noona Romance.
If you even put My Girlfriend is a Gumiho to that list (which I never consider Noona's Romance) or Big (because the fact there's a body swap makes the guy actually older physically in the drama) which are superficial in terms's of Noona-dongsaeng relationship then there's no reason to eliminate Dalja's Spring.
For me, basically Noona Romance is only a romance between a woman who's older and a man who is younger by age in the drama despite the real age difference between the actors.
Actually I like your list better than others which I encounter before so I wish you could make it more complete.
Cheers!
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124 avivush
January 14, 2015 at 10:46 AM
can you recommend me some asian dramas like just you(my most favorite), playful kiss, romance comedy of course it will be much better if the dramas will include handsome main characters and the story will reminnd me he drama 'just you'
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125 Nataly
June 9, 2015 at 2:17 AM
Empress Ki is one of the best historical noona romances.
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126 kayedrama
July 31, 2015 at 9:16 AM
Where I can find Biscuit Teacher Star Candy??? I can't seem to find it on Viki.
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127 En En Koh
November 2, 2015 at 3:37 PM
Again, although this has been written much earlier, but I think Witch Romance and Let's Eat should also be up there.
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128 Miyuki
November 8, 2015 at 10:15 AM
The picture on top of the screen with the motorcycle. Do you know the name of drama with the couple on the right side. The female wearing the pink helmet I remembered seeing it but I forgot the name.
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129 ItsMe
August 1, 2016 at 6:17 AM
I love Lee Tae-ri and king of high school suppose to be in the list.
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130 Fickleminded19
October 30, 2016 at 4:53 AM
I would recommend "Angry Mom" starring Kim Hee Sun... although it's a drama, it has a bit but super cute noona romance on it between her character and Ji Soo... remembering how cute they were makes me feel giddy. In real life they have 16 years age gap but Hee Sun is too pretty to be called an ahjumma though.
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131 Yani
January 5, 2017 at 12:14 AM
I never like anything before You Are Beautiful(2009) because i dont like the cliches (mong heroins, rude chaebol heroes or vice versa and funny birth secret). I found that characters of Kdrama in the 90s are very (too) passionate - all characters like to shout when talking and i hate that..
After 2010, we had some original fresh stories and plot twist which is why i love kdrama so much (esp from TVN)
but because you (gf and DB) have suggested these old dramas.. i will try to watch it because i trust you?
Note : i followed your drama recaps since YAB and this website is my go to reference.
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132 CrimeFighter
January 9, 2017 at 8:50 AM
Noona romance means the lead guy who is younger than the lead gal falls into a romantic rs with her (not that the lead male artiste is younger than the road female artiste in reality right?)
Anyway I love noona romace cos I myself is an older woman. My favorite noona romance drama are :
I Hear Your Voice (this was one of the best that I've rewatched it), I Need Romance 3 (very good too), High School King of Savvy (good and hilarious), Witch Romance (I like the lead guy but the lead gal was overly too cold-hearted and kinda bad to her colleagues etc), I Do I Do (I dropped this midway cos I couldn't stand the overly boyish n immature lead guy !!)....I think that's all I've watched for noona romance theme dramas.
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133 MyGirl2016
January 10, 2017 at 4:27 AM
A couple of years late to the party... But who cares!!! I was so giddy reading the list?? NOONA ROMANCES!! Definitely checking out the ones that I haven’t seen yet. And for those of you looking through the comments section for recommendations, like some people above have mentioned- King of High School Savvy is awesome.
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134 Alvina
June 20, 2017 at 5:37 AM
What's Up Fox has to be my absolute favourite out of the list, mostly because of how it pushes the envelope and stands the test of time. In fact, the older I get, the more I understand Go Hyun Jung's character. I too see my uterus floating away from me.
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135 Ameer2
July 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM
Hello, I would like to thank you for writing this note. Although its a little late in year 2017 but I liked the recommendation u put here.
Thanks a Lot
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136 Jihye
July 31, 2017 at 4:33 AM
I also like noona romances... You can add Witch's Romance as well. I will watch those I haven't seen yet. Thank you so much. I always look forward to reading recaps from dramabean.
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137 Snowade
August 12, 2017 at 6:16 AM
Check out Last Scandal of My Life. It's a great noona romance too!
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138 Go-Unni-Go
August 26, 2017 at 3:09 AM
My Top Ten would definitely include Witch's Romance!! Park Seo Joon proved he was a worthy leading man. His kisses were knee-bending as he equally matched Uhm Jung Hwa in innocent sex appeal.
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