Weekend Wrap-up: Meetup, KCON 2013, and The World of K-Drama
by javabeans
javabeans: So, KCON. Omg, KCON. My body is still in recovery from this weekend, although to be fair, that could just be age. (And the drinking. And the whole cow we ate.)
girlfriday: Or was it all the Learn to Dance Like Your Idol workshopping you did on the sly while we weren’t looking?
javabeans: HA. I laugh at the very notion of me doing any sort of dancing in that blistering heat. I was melting just standing there. All you hardcore fans who had to wait in that monster line for hours have my respect and sympathy horror.
girlfriday: Seriously, that line was insane.
javabeans: Maybe we should back up and talk about our Friday night meetup first, to be all organized about this. Well, more organized than a rambling free-for-all, which is probably how this post will end.
girlfriday: As all our conversations in real life do? Anyway, so we had our meetup at K-town Plaza (where we arrived early and went CD shopping at the music store like the good old days) and lo and behold, people showed up!
javabeans: I was fully prepared for it to be the four of us sitting there for a few hours nursing a single cup of coffee while weathering stinkeye from the ajusshis working the joint, but as it turns out, we fully earned those stinkeyes by crowding the plaza till we were kicked out. Nothing says overstaying our welcome like grumpy employees literally chaining the doors shut on you.
girlfriday: Closing out a mall doesn’t exactly have the same cool factor as closing out a bar, but hey, we turn everything into our own party.
javabeans: Thankfully coolness has never been our concern. Drama geeks unite!
girlfriday: It was really fun to meet all of you from different places, each with crazy drama stories of your own. I felt this at the NY meetup too, but it’s always nice when you hear people exclaim, “There are other people like ME?”
javabeans: Which is pretty much the perfect way to describe the Dramabeans experience. Maybe our new tagline should be “Dramabeans: Normalizing the K-drama Obsession.” ‘Cause I’m not gonna try to argue that our brand of addiction is healthy, but hey, at least it’s not weird!
girlfriday: And that extended to KCON as well. Fandom, I realized, is pretty universal that way.
javabeans: I do think that’s one of my favorite aspects about events like KCON and meetups—the way you can leave behind that sheepishness, or the feeling of having to qualify your interests to people who just Don’t Get It. You can leave behind the explanations and just jump right into the whole enthusiasm-fervor-fun of the experience. So you get to start the conversation at “Omg, how much do you wish Kim Woo-bin were hosting the concert?” and not stopping to intro it with “Have you heard of Hallyu? No? K-pop? You know, Gangnam Style?”
girlfriday: Yeah and it was pretty incredible to see that on such a massive scale. I mean, I knew in my mind there would be a lot of people, but there were a LOT of people.
javabeans: So many that some of you were STILL stuck in that line from hell when our panel got going, despite having gotten there four hours early. *sadface* To be fair, I think our co-panelist PD might have gotten lost in that line too.
girlfriday: Or the LA traffic. It’s a toss-up.
javabeans: Moving on to the panel itself, I totally had a blast up there—that’s what we love best, shooting the breeze talking about dramas with people who love dramas.
girlfriday: Yeah, give us a mic and we’ll talk forever. Preferably two, so we can cut each other off—
javabeans: —without me yanking the mic out of your hands? (See what I did there.) Yes, that definitely helps keep us civilized. The moderated portion of the panel was a lot about the popularity of Korean dramas worldwide, why we thought it appealed to so many, how fan responses directly affect drama production, and things like that. We have covered those topics in some form on this site, but it’s always interesting to approach it from a different angle. For instance, not assuming that everyone already knows everything about dramas and is coming at it as a general fan of Hallyu.
girlfriday: Though judging by the discussion we had and the kinds of questions we got from the crowd, everyone there had done their fair share of drama watching. We talked about the industry backdrop and the unique appeal (and craziness) of the live-shoot system, and the winning formulas that get repeated in dramaland for good reason. And the pretty pretty boys. They really had to twist our arms to talk about that.
javabeans: Plus, our co-panelist Sean Richard had a lot of really interesting and thoughtful things to say as well, particularly from his unique perspective behind the scenes. Didn’t you love how someone asked about how a flower boy becomes a popular star, and the panel just basically turned to Sean and went, “Yes, tell us what that was like”? (Our answer for that, and also to the question of whether idol stars face prejudice, was basically that the pretties/idols may encounter unfair resistance, but they also benefit greatly by getting opportunities they wouldn’t otherwise have, so it’s up to them to prove themselves by doing good work. Because we like pretty, but we like dramas more.)
girlfriday: Sean had just spent months making a documentary about Hallyu, so he knew what he was talking about. And he had funny stories about being on drama sets with the director and cast and crew just standing around, waiting for the scripts to come in. PD: “So… this is the scene… what do you think your character might say here?”
javabeans: That was my favorite anecdote, with my second favorite being how he first read about his supposed casting in Take Care of Us, Captain in the news, and had to call up his management to ask, “Uh, am I doing this drama?” (He didn’t do the drama.)
girlfriday: This is the conversation you imagine happening with every actor that goes through the “Just considering,” “No no really, not confirmed,” cycles of casting stories.
javabeans: Then we got to be his entourage for a day afterward (I seriously wish there was video of our brief corridor strut with Sean Richard flanked by the four DB girls, because it just felt like the most hilarious parody of an entourage scenario, hair blowing in the breeze and all), hanging out in the Viki booth while he signed autographs for fans and we watched his documentary. Which, by the way, I think is totally worth the watch; it’s a project he directed called Finding Hallyuwood and has some interesting interviews with actors and idols. It was cute how he mock-ordered us to watch his documentary, and then was all “No no, I didn’t mean you HAVE to see it!” when we stood there watching it, and we had to convince him we genuinely liked it.
girlfriday: We totally watched it twice.
javabeans: Here, you can watch it now. We’ll wait.
“Finding Hallyuwood”
javabeans: I have to point out our amusing brush with PPL at the panel, with the bottled waters provided by Bibigo for the speakers, which HAD to then be shown, label-side-forward, in the official promo photos taken by the staff. You know you’ve made it when your face has to be shot with sponsored content featured in frame.
girlfriday: That was hilarious. I totally had that moment of Oh, this is what it feels like to deliver that “This is tasty and refreshing!” line at the coffee shop in dramas.
javabeans: Although I have to say, having eaten Bibigo for lunch: Who puts broccoli in bibimbap? C’mon, Psy, I know you don’t take your bibimbap like that.
girlfriday: I know. This is what happens when you put your face on something. Incidentally, we also stopped at Kang Hodong’s restaurant during our weekend, and THAT was the totally opposite experience. Like, if anyone’s gonna know his meat, it’s Hodong.
javabeans: Omg, deliiiiiiiiiiiicious. Also, trust Hodong to be the one to co-opt a totally negative word (Kang Hodong Baekjeong means Kang Hodong Butcher, and butchers were the lowest of the low-class back in ye olden days) and make it cool. Word to the wise: Get there an hour before you plan to be hungry, put your name in, and maybe grab some coffee across the street. It’s gonna be a while. But totally worth it, especially when you are attended to by a cadre of young pretty boys who yell their welcome and goodbye at you in chorus.
girlfriday: It’s Coffee Prince: The BBQ Version, and it’s genius. Should we tell people about the concert?
javabeans: I gave up about 20 percent of my hearing to it, so yes. Um, I think we can skip the whole Chad Future intro part and start with the concert proper, which was kicked off by f(x). I thought at the time that it was strange for the show to start with a pretty big group rather than one of the lesser-knowns, but it was probably all for the best. Because, to put it nicely, they were appropriately placed in terms of, um, energy and maybe appeal.
girlfriday: They were bland. There, I said it.
javabeans: I was thinking more along the lines of terrible. They didn’t seem to be doing any singing, and they barely did any dancing either. I was much more enthused for Dynamic Duo, who I must say were looking dapper.
girlfriday: They looked so cute. And were of course really good live.
javabeans: So much energy, jumping all over the place. After that I can’t remember the order of anybody, but I generally had a good impression of everyone’s performances, even if the music wasn’t my taste.
Yoo Seung-woo’s “Hello” (not from KCON)
girlfriday: My memory pretty much goes from Dynamic Duo to tiny tiny Yoo Seung-woo being squished by giant inflatable marshmallows.
javabeans: OH MY GOD. I love him so much. We were lucky to see him the day before at the side stage when it was just him and a guitar and a mic, and he was awesome. Not just adorable, but also musically talented and vocally strong and great all around. I didn’t enjoy him as much in the concert because the acoustics were so terrible and echo-y that you couldn’t appreciate his live performance skills in that kind of arena.
girlfriday: Or his witty in-between speeches.
javabeans: Limited English has never been so endearing. “Next song. Good song.” and “Next song. Last song.” Precious. Also, he wrote a song extolling makgulli, which immediately makes him our people. Even if he’s too wee to drink legally yet.
girlfriday: If DB had a musical mascot, he’d be it.
javabeans: Though he’s definitely too wee to consider throwing immense bouncy balls at! To contextualize this, he was singing his song “Hello,” which contains the line “My marshmallow,” at which point the staff released about two dozen huge bouncy balls into the VIP pit area from the balcony level. The first two seconds looked whimsical and cute, and then you were like, “Wait! They’re heading for the stage! Did nobody think this through? Won’t somebody save tiny Yoo Seung-woo?”
girlfriday: It was the worst idea ever. I couldn’t even enjoy the lovely song because I was convinced that he was going to be crushed by giant marshmallows at any moment.
javabeans: He almost was. There was this moment when one huge ball came bouncing at him from behind, and there was the collective intake of about four thousand people in the audience, gasping, “Oh noooooo!” It hit him full-on from the back (while he was playing guitar and singing facing forward) and it was a lucky thing he didn’t fall splat on his face. Or his guitar.
girlfriday: There was also this new pop group called Crayon Pop, which I can only describe as manga characters come to life. They were indescribably tiny and bouncy and cheery.
Crayon Pop, also not from KCON
javabeans: I’m pretty sure they were cheerleading Powerpuff Girls. They looked about twelve onstage, though they’re actually all in their twenties. Then there was 2AM, whom I managed to hear over gummimochi’s fangirling (maybe only just barely), who I thought were the best singers of the night, and among the most endearing.
girlfriday: And then at some point, EXO came on and we all went deaf.
javabeans: I have been to a lot of concerts in my life, and been subject to lots of screaming, but never have my ears quite hit that level of pain as when EXO came on and the stadium went batshit crazy.
girlfriday: It was a new decibel I didn’t know existed.
javabeans: There was a second or two when I legitimately feared I might pop something.
girlfriday: It’s always an interesting experience to see that kind of fandom reaction when you’re on the outside of it, because I wondered if I was like that back in the day when it was MY omg-omg-oppaaaaa onstage, and I guess the answer is yes, and I should probably apologize to my parents or something.
javabeans: Although I would venture to guess you didn’t steal signed merch of your oppas from kind folks who were planning to give them away, like when Soompi got their EXO stuff robbed from their booth.
girlfriday: That’s a sad story.
javabeans: I think the EXO fans even outdid the G-Dragon fans, based on my very scientific evidence of eardrum pain. I have to say, I wasn’t super impressed with GD, but maybe I just don’t Get Him.
girlfriday: He was better with Missy Elliott, but overall he looked like he was asleep.
javabeans: Maybe he WAS asleep during the pre-performance roll call, seeing as how he totally didn’t show up in the intro lineup when everyone was announced and took their bows. When the camera zoomed in for his close-up, all we got was empty stage, like something out of a movie. It was all *screams* *screams* *confused murmurs* *Hurry! Next guest!*
girlfriday: Asleep is certainly a better excuse than too cool for school. Overall the whole experience was a good one. KCON is all about inclusiveness and celebrating fandom, and it was fun to be in the thick of it with all of you.
javabeans: We were honored to be invited as guests (thanks Viki!) and enjoyed meeting you all, and hopefully get more opportunities to talk to you in person in the future! Even if I’m still recovering now and trying to get my hearing back. Makgulli fixes that, right?
girlfriday: It does in my world.
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1 Faye
August 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Aw, this sounds like so much fun! Unfortunately, I was home with a broken foot (still am). I hope you make it to next year's K-Con!
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infiniti512
August 27, 2013 at 5:18 PM
Ooh me too! Let's try next year with two working feet!
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geekcollage
August 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM
Yes! I wanted to try the dance workshops. But at least I managed to make it hobbling around with just a sprained foot. (first two days without my crutches!)
I was stuck in the Entry Line of DOOOM too and unfortunately missed both the drama panel AND the beanies meetup. TT
I was in the nosebleed section for the concert, so maybe my ears were a little safer. I actually liked all the performances. But I was completely impressed with the poise Yu Seung Woo had in the face of being mowed down by a giant ball as big as him. He didn't miss a beat. He's like the adorable super-talented little brother you wished you had.
I hope the Dramabeans team is back for next year's Kcon. I'll be there with both working feet (assuming I don't do something stupid again at next year's Comic Con).
Thanks for coming!
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Haru
August 28, 2013 at 3:32 AM
Did you karate kick a writer or something at Comic Con? XD That is the only way I would sprain a leg or break one! LOL
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Faye
August 28, 2013 at 2:28 PM
That would be cool. As for me, my injury was acquired in a much more prosaic fashion -I slipped and fell in a wet parking lot.
geekcollage
August 30, 2013 at 12:04 AM
nope, I fell off a slide at one of the outdoor venues. I just had to try the extra slide...my injuries are never cool. :(
makgulli
September 14, 2013 at 3:39 AM
Aww, I didn't get to go... Who's javabeans, girlfriday, HeadsNo2 and gummimochi? c:
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2 sebsob
August 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Heartfelt thanks for creating this post, and the vids and pics too. Living outside of the USA, it's depressing that I miss out on these meet ups but this really does make up for it. Thank you! yay!
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sm
August 28, 2013 at 4:16 AM
THANKS! ive always imagined meeting you guys, whose posts I read everyday. When ever I read what you guys write, I am insanely curious to know what kind of people you all are.
it feels like im one step closer,to knowing you guys :D
thanks for the kcon video :D
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3 CRISTINA
August 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM
when are you coming to dallas, tx
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Agatha
August 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM
I'm with you on this one sister! Dallas!
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Ann
August 27, 2013 at 5:36 PM
Yes! Dallas! Split the difference from LA to NY!
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dfwkimchi
August 28, 2013 at 6:40 AM
Oh Yeah - Dallas area has a BIG Korean community - i leave in a suburb area where we even have an H-MART (korean grocery chain) for the last 5 years!
please, please, pretty please?
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dfwkimchi
August 28, 2013 at 6:42 AM
* sorry - i mean live (instead of leave) in a ....
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4 Elina
August 27, 2013 at 1:28 PM
0:33! 1:32!
I'm totally stalking you
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5 briana
August 27, 2013 at 1:30 PM
Thank you so much for the recap. Being stuck in the Midwest sucks for the most part which is why I live vicariously through others.
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6 tuitui
August 27, 2013 at 1:37 PM
I was so disappointed that I wasn't able to make it to your panel because I was stuck in line for 2 hours waiting to test drive a Hyundai. I felt that I was in a line all weekend. However, it was all worth it.
My fave acts for MCountdown were 2pm, Exo, Teen Top and GD.
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7 Toto
August 27, 2013 at 1:37 PM
love this wish I lived in Amurika :). WOW U guys got to be Sean entourage :D.. so jel haha
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8 jandoe
August 27, 2013 at 1:46 PM
you guys finally revealed your faces!
Okay that sounds creepy, totally didn't mean it that way... Been following here since forever, it's nice to finally see faces behind the words :D
KCON sounded awesome, I'm awaiting other blogger reports and stuff haha. Glad y'all had a great time!
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Elianne
August 27, 2013 at 2:40 PM
Lol, I had the exact same reaction! Y'know, since I thought after all these years, that seeing their faces was about as likely as finding a seung-gi scandal.
Maybe you could who's who though? I'm prolly way off but just for funsies, is it(from the left-hand side), gummi, gf, jb then heads? just taking a stab at it even though I've never seen any of you in real life nor have you ever revealed anything about your appearance on db. Lol, I don't know if I'd be more excited or freaked out if im right!
Anyhow, thanks for writing this jb and gf, sounds like you guys had a great time, loss of hearing notwithstanding (btw the more I hear about exo fans, the more I feel like I need to run the the other way if ever exo was nearby!). Wish I could have gone!
what are the chances of the db crew taking a trip to the uk? HA.
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Elianne
August 27, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Forgot to say, I have such sympathy pangs hearing about the lines from hell. Especially in this heatwave. Really applaud everyone's dedication and patience to literally stand for hours trying to get in! I don't I'd ever have the patience. Not even for Oppa.
Ooh, and btw, you ladies are gorgeous! ;)
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ilikemangos
August 27, 2013 at 5:31 PM
You've got the line-up right.
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Elianne
August 27, 2013 at 6:05 PM
OMG REALLY?!
That's crazy! I'm so fist-pumping right now, dunno why but it feels like I've hit the lottery or something. I didn't even think much of it, just kinda made snap guesses on who's who. Good to know I'm psychic, though I wish it happens for more useful stuff, like exams and whether dramas will flop or not ha.
Thanks for the confirmation btw, it made more happy than it should really.
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tadaaflo
August 27, 2013 at 7:18 PM
i was thinking the same way to... gummi, gf, jb and heads...
but..... what if, what if.. sean is santa claus... boom! think about it... lol
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Haru
August 28, 2013 at 3:40 AM
OMFG!!! MIND BLOWN! @_@
That would be the greatest thing EVER!
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amber
August 27, 2013 at 7:23 PM
The lady in black is javabeans and the one in white is girlfriday ;)))
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LOVE HS&SH
August 27, 2013 at 10:20 PM
WOW! THIS IS VERY GREAT!!
I really curious to see JB & GF photo. I am long time fan of Dramabeans. And thanks for let me know who is who. Coz I live in Asia so no chance to meet with them. These ladies are very sweet and gorgeous :)
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Hazel
August 27, 2013 at 8:48 PM
"(btw the more I hear about exo fans, the more I feel like I need to run the the other way if ever exo was nearby!)."
Yeah, the Exo fans are....earning themselves quite the reputation. They kinda need to chill just a lil' bit.
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geekcollage
August 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM
I agree, they are a bit scary. I like EXO and all, and their harmonies are pretty good. But the Uber-fans scare me.
I find that aspect of Kpop fan culture fascinating.
I would totally be thrilled if I was ever to meet or interact with my favorite KPop bands.
I wouldn't faint or cry for joy though.
I'm sorry to hear Soompi was robbed. That's just so sad.
I hope they catch the XX responsible.
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9 AnotherFan
August 27, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Oh this is wonderful. Thank you for the writeup. BTW, I tried to make it to the L.A. K-town meetup but first got stuck on the stupid 405 and then got lost finding my way in downtown. And when I finally figured out how to get to the mall, it was close to 8PM already. So I ended up making the drama u-turn (along with a passionate cuss) and went on the way home, after spending at least over an hour on the road. Am still kicking myself for not able to meet my favorite K-drama bloggers and fellow L.A. beanies..
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Kiara
August 27, 2013 at 3:00 PM
I was stuck at I-5 with a friend so we end up at Mako sushi in the end lol. Mmmmm was good though.
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AnotherFan
August 27, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Kinda good to hear someone else shared my misery ;-)
Where is Mako Sushi btw?
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Kiara
August 27, 2013 at 6:29 PM
We were already late so we were just looking for something to eat. We end up at little Tokyo by accident and found this restaurant there. I think the food was good cause we were so hungry lol.
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10 redfox
August 27, 2013 at 1:47 PM
ahhhahha how amusing. too bad there are like, maybe 2 kdrama fans in Estonia so there isnt much point coming here.
looks like you had a lot of fun. that´s great
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redfox
August 27, 2013 at 9:11 PM
oh btw. in the thread "Why do dramas do that?" there was a question raised about turning the bottle to the side and my guess was to show the label. seems I was so totally correct hah. respecting elders? well, a suitable excuse. how convenient.
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11 Hmm...
August 27, 2013 at 1:51 PM
This is just a suggestion, but have you guys ever think about doing drama reviews on Youtube? I'm sure you'll all get a big following. Maybe even bigger than Eat Your Kimchi?
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Chesquared
August 27, 2013 at 2:02 PM
I second this! Totally should do it.
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kumi
August 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM
I expressed the same idea before! Please!
(And thank you for KCON participation!)
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Kiara
August 27, 2013 at 3:06 PM
I saw this one girl doing K-drama reviews on YouTube and I end up laughing the whole time. Every terrible K-dramas out there were just so great to her and the actors were all amazing lol.
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Chesquared
August 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM
I think I know which one you're talking about. She rated Moonsun as her number 1 historical drama. My face still hurts from that face palm.
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ilikemangos
August 27, 2013 at 5:34 PM
+1
EXPANDDD!
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12 hipployta
August 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM
I'm still sad I missed the panel and my hug because VIP1 ended up being the slowest one and line from hell (I lined up at 8am)...but it was nice meeting you guys
GD's audience panel was a bust too. I walked out after 5 minutes because he dgaf
No one thought those balls through but he was super cute waving at us after I called him REALLY cute in Korean. The photographers around me were dying laughing.
2AM was so awesome...I wish they did I Was Wrong too
I couldn't tell the difference in screams since I was front row center lol
I admit I had my banners for EXO's Kris and Tao (and back up ones for Luhan and Lay). I wish I managed to find Chen and Xiumin banners (I'm extremely biased toward the Mandarin half of the group lol)
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Ivoire
August 27, 2013 at 2:40 PM
Hi, what does this "dgaf" stand for/mean, please?
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Chesquared
August 27, 2013 at 2:45 PM
"Don't give a F***"
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13 sartorius
August 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM
M glad that it was fun for u guys.... i can't even imagine the mania for EXO and GD...i hope they have a NY version of KCON soon...it would be awesome!
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14 Cindy
August 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Aaaaaah, I was totally waiting for this!
You know, I 'm already a major fan of you gals, but reading this and seeing your faces is the actual icing on the cake.
I also noticed how you are even more interacting with us readers lately: asking what we wanna hear in your podcasts, organizing meet-ups, writing an ebook, a give-away, revealing your faces on that nice groupshot of yours.......just to name a few. Makes me wonder if you are planning to give dramabeans some kind of new direction by being even more out there. Keep the surprises coming, I and many others will surely follow you everywhere, even to the dephts of k-dramahell (with all the ghosts popping up lately, dramaland must surely have its own form thereof;-)).
Cheers to all of you and thanks for the nice wrap-up!
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15 cherkell
August 27, 2013 at 2:01 PM
Totally second you on Kang Hodong's barbeque spot! On my last trip down to LA, we ended up eating there three nights in a row since it was sooooooo good (and cheap too, compared to Bay Area prices)!!! And hell yeah to the Pretty Boys -- one of our waiters could have been Kim Ji-hoon's twin brother (and I have photographic proof).
But being stuck in massive kyaaa girl crowds in that SoCal heat wave would have made for a not-so-nice time for me. Glad to hear you all survived (eardrums notwithstanding)!
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Ivoire
August 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM
Hi Cherkell, is this the Kang Ho-dong of 1N2D? And thank you for the recommendation... I will have to try his restaurant when I go to LA.
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pabo ceo reom
August 27, 2013 at 11:34 PM
Yup, the one and only!
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Rachel
August 28, 2013 at 12:39 AM
Would love to see photographic proof of this secret twin of Kim Ji Hoon LOL.
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16 hipployta
August 27, 2013 at 2:05 PM
I only care about Tin Tap (Teen Top) for Niel so that was exciting since he was fabulous
Crayon Pop...I dislike all their drama (Ilbe) but damn that song remains catchy though they still remind me of MomoCloZ (Jpop)
Missy was FABULOUS. I had flashbacks to high school.
f(x)...I'm a fan...but I actually saw their rehearsal and it was EXACTLY the same...*sigh* They seem better in club venues because sxsw was a great show
I'm actually a Big Bang fan...but not really of GD anymore but he was better at the concert last year
Dynamic Duo...I did enjoy their stage even though I'm all TeamESens lol
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17 Anna
August 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM
The documentary was very interesting. However, I do think the 'Korean wave that is sweeping the world' is fanciful. At least here is Europe where nobody seems to know anything about Korea at all. I work in the newspaper industry in the UK and the ignorance about Korea amongst my colleagues, other than anything about North Korean nukes or Gangnam Style, is staggering. And that's with people who are paid to investigate news stories. My Korean friends (who studied in the UK but have now returned to Korea after finishing) told me that they were shocked by how little British people knew about Korea. I have never seen a Korean drama on UK television, and only the occasional film, which is generally broadcast in the middle of the night. It seems to me that the Korean people are being hoodwinked by reports overstating the popularity of Korean Kpop or dramas. Certainly in Europe. Interesting documentary though.
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kujaichi
August 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM
Hm, I agree that Korean stuff is definitely not that known/popular in Europe yet (I mean, I only discovered it for myself maybe 2 or 3 months ago, and I'm almost the only one I know (personally) who loves it, and most of my friends are geeks in one way or the other), buuuuut there actually was a little report about KPop on TV once.
Might have something to do with the fact that the presenter who did it is half(?) Korean, but we take what we get, right? :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2mQB-adDGY
(I'm sorry, I know the quality is horrible and it doesn't even have subtitles...)
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Anna
August 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM
I would love to see kdramas becoming commonplace in Europe, but they won't. Any interest in anything Korean will remain very much a niche interest, appealing to a tiny demographic. That's why I think the 'Korean wave is sweeping the world' reports are just nonsense. Koreans who travel and study abroad know that it is nonsense, but I suppose the ones back in Korea have no reason to doubt the reports. I think they would be shocked if they ever came to Europe.
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Requiem
August 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM
Agreed on the documentary being interesting. Thanks for introducing us to it, javabeans and nice job, Sean Richard!
I agree that it's a little over the top in how it seems to paint this picture of Korea taking over everything, but why not have a little optimism in the piece?
The interesting part I culled from it was the producer/writer? who said that the "girl always has to be common, someone that the audience can relate to" while the "boy has to be really, really attractive and successful and mean to everyone EXCEPT the main girl."
It's definitely making assumptions about the audience, but it seems to fit seeing the ratings of dramas (ajumma-marketing), and it definitely seems to support a lot of psychology behind what women want in a drama and in men, in general.
It is a little depressing in that we'll likely have these Candy-type heroines and tortured-but-really-gold-underneath-type heroes in dramas for as long as the ajummas rule the Korean airwaves.
Heh, I didn't realize it, but Han Chae-Young was actually raised in the US, as I assume the music duo were (yup, just checked, and it turns out Yoon Mi-rae is actually part African American!), because I was wondering how their English was so good (whereas Siwon mainly communicated in Korean with some English phrases).
Anyways, sounds like you guys had a good time which is awesome, and I can't wait for the next dramabeans meetup where hopefully, I'll have more lead time to be able to attend!
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ilikemangos
August 27, 2013 at 5:43 PM
When han chae young spoke in english mind= blown.
I really didn't know she was raised in the U.S.
Along with Yoon Mi-Rae and Tiger whom i didn't know before the documentary.
The documentary is actually rather good(well, these seem to be so rare!); it explains alot about the hallyu wave and takes us behind the scenes, something i've always been curious about.
I just love how dramabeans is that bridge between me and the k-ent industry. Cause seriously, without this blog, i would seriously be kept under a rock about all things related to k-ent.
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geekcollage
August 27, 2013 at 11:36 PM
Yup. Dramabeans, Viki, Soompi, and EatYourKimchi are my gateways too. Thanks guys.
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Anna
August 28, 2013 at 12:39 AM
Oh I wasn't having a pop at this documentary, which is very much a personal take on the Korean entertainment industry. No, I was really talking about mainstream media, like the English versions of the Korea Herald and the Korea Times, which regularly report on the 'Korean wave that is sweeping the world'. It's fanciful and, quite frankly, total hogwash. As I said, I would love kdramas to become mainstream on UK telly, but it's never going to happen. And I suppose it can't really be blamed on subtitles either, as the recent popularity of Danish drama 'The Killing' and Swedish drama 'Wallander' have shown. We quite often see French dramas, Italian dramas, etc. but nothing from East Asia. I doubt that will change. Here or in the rest of Europe. Which is a shame, but there we are.
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kdramafan
August 27, 2013 at 4:35 PM
Seems like there's another chance for KPop to widen its market.
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Mohammed
August 28, 2013 at 1:48 AM
Korean Wave isnt mainstream in Europe like it is in Asia, other parts of the world thats clear mostly because European fans alot of them follow the music,dramas online because its not on TV. You can say its sweeping the world since Asia,Africa is huge part of the world.
Europe has only as many people as there is in a single country of USA. Not that big part of the world. I was shocked to read several K-dramas has 80-90% Ratings in Iran and are big in Africa.
Korean films are acclaimed in Europe too winning Cannes, Berlin awards.
I thought it was interesting documentary and that rapper, his wife and Lee Byung Hu was right there needs to be more quality and less quantity. K-Pop is too much refining,copying western pop music, more money before good music while i respect K-dramas,films more since they are more unique Korean style,korean invention.
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Anna
August 28, 2013 at 4:25 AM
Actually Europe has 750 million people and the US has 300 million. It also makes up a fair proportion of the developed world, so in the greater scheme of things, it is pretty important.
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msim
August 28, 2013 at 2:16 PM
I think perception is everything.
Journalists are quite monochrome in the UK, and generally above 16 to 35 age bracket.
So age, and the sense that Europe is the centre of the universe plays a lot in this perception.
I would be hard-pressed to find a single friend who hasn't watched some K-dramas (and also watched Les Revenants, Spiral, the Killing, and the Bridge, etc.).
Mind you, my group (and I), are not mono-cultural nor monochrome, nor from the same class.
2 things are sure to make fast friends when I travel on any continent: Coronation Street and K-dramas.
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Mohammed
August 28, 2013 at 5:25 PM
Fair proportion of the developed but sure even in poor countries they have K-dramas in Africa,Asia. I think i was thinking about the size of mainland Europe minus Russia is not much bigger than USA as a continent.
in 20-30 years 7 billion of 10 billion people in the world will be living in Africa, Asia. So even know Europe you can make alot of money as seller of Korean culture but its not the only market and not the biggest in the world.
I was born in Somalia and visited my homeland last summer in 2012 and i saw my first Korean drama ever on KBS World channel being Bridal Mask. KBS world was the only non-arabic language channel on TV. I had to watch KBS world because they had english subtitles unlike the Arabic channels.
Somalia is one of poorest, most dangerous countries in the world even they know Korean wave....
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kujaichi
August 28, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Yeah, it actually makes me sad when I read stuff like that.
Hell, people in Iran can watch K-Dramas on tv, but I can't?!
Lilly
August 28, 2013 at 2:31 AM
Netflix is spreading it a lot in the Americas.
They get it to see certain shows like House of Cards on as a Premium channel, and then when they look at other dramas offered they see the Korean ones and try them.
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Mohammed
August 28, 2013 at 3:06 AM
Even here where im in Sweden im enjoying watching Korean dramas in HD quality thanks to Netflix. I have the swedish Netflix but with simple Youtube codes i switched to American Netflix.
My sisters are huge K-Pop fans watch daily,weekly music shows live streaming on Youtube. Regular tv not having K-dramas, K-pop on air doesnt say anything about popularity of Korean wave when internet tv is huge these days and easy to get culture from as far as Korea.
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Newbie
August 28, 2013 at 9:54 AM
It is exactly the same in Germany. We know Psy and some of the historical stuff of South and North Korea, that led to partition and that's about it.
Lovely ladies of DB - Thanks for the wonderful recap. Sounds like it was a lot of fun!
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18 kujaichi
August 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Ahh, so jealous!
But then I remember back then when I started liking all things Japan I wouldn't even dare to dream to one day see any of those groups live, and now they're coming to Europe all the time (which, yay!), so hopefully we just have to wait... a few years... or so...... :D
Thanks for the report!
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19 owlcat
August 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM
I wasn’t able to go to KCON 2013 because I live in Canada did any lucky Beanies who got to go record the drama panel if you did can you please put it on YouTube and send me the link? Pretty please with a hot fudge sundae on top :) Thank You!!!
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geekcollage
August 27, 2013 at 11:38 PM
Viki did actually. Check their blog for a recap.
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20 anna
August 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM
“Omg, how much do you wish Kim Woo-bin were hosting the concert?”
Did gummi say this or was this question for her?! Hahaha
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gummimochi
August 27, 2013 at 3:03 PM
My secret's out! Sadly, Oppa was not present but Heads and I were sorta-kinda-maybe prepared to go to the Oppa Debate panel to argue for his defense.
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21 tohru314
August 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM
As you said I was totally there 2 hours ahead of time, got stuck in the line from HELL for 3 hours and ran up to your panel right as you said " thanks for coming!" I was so depressed...
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ilikemangos
August 27, 2013 at 5:48 PM
Omg that's horrible!
My heart goes out to all of those who waited in line for hours and didn't get to see the DB panel!
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22 Lizzy4e
August 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM
Thank you for the wrap-up. It sounds like it was a big success.
You ladies are are so pretty, good to put faces to voices. Thank you for sharing the adventure with us.
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23 gr33nl3af
August 27, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Sadly, couldn't make it to the meetup or your panel even though we had planned for it (line to get in D1 was waaayyy too long and inefficient). Funny how our taste in music are similar as they are for dramas. f(x) really was unimpressive and Exo did receive more screams than any other artist in the house (I can attest to that as a wild fan behind me was screaming at the top of her lungs and banging on my seat throughout their entire performance =_=). My favorite moment was Henry for everything he participated it in..just AMAZING ^^
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24 Evelia
August 27, 2013 at 2:47 PM
KCON was pretty cool. I did walk a lot though until I finally found Javabeans and Girlfriday and was able to take them a photo. :)
Plus Sean Richard is a pretty cool actor. I got his signature and even took a photo with him. He was pretty nice.
I also missed the panel since I got there around 10:30 and when I saw the line, I was hoping I would make it but I had to wait until 12:30 p.m. when I finally got inside.
I was to tired to go to the concert, just couldn't walk anymore the next day.
And the meetup was nice too. It was nice to see others that enjoy to watch Korean dramas. :)
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Victoria
August 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM
We'd love to see the photos you took at the Viki booth. Please share them on Twitter or Instagram and tag Viki :)
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dustdevil
August 29, 2013 at 6:47 PM
Hi Evelia! It was really fun to meet you on Friday night. The lines were so long--I'm still surprised that I made it through before 11 am.
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25 Kiara
August 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Thank you for the K-Con recap :). Glad you all had fun. gummi's dimple > Sean's. GF what's with the distance between you and Sean, I'd back-hug him if I were you lol.
I was wondering why "Sword and Flower" was missing recaps this weekend until I saw Heads smiling back on that picture lol.
Thank you Sean for the documentary. Lee Byung Hun's English has improved a lot, good for him. Glad to hear from the lovely Han Chae Young. Enjoyed Tiger and his wife's interview. Love Park Yong Woo, haven't seen him since Jejoongwon . Dang I didn't know Siwon was that popular. I loved the guy in Legend of Hyang Dan and I'm still waiting for him to star in another sageuk.
Going back to read the rest lol.
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26 Julia the Berkshire Beanie
August 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM
You girls rock.
Now I am totally off to watch a Sean Richards drama, since he's somebody I don't know yet but if he is cool enough to hang with DB girls, then he must be good.
I so have to do KCon 2014.
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risa
August 27, 2013 at 3:45 PM
Sean Richard made an impression on me in Jejoongwon (which I believe was his first k-drama role)-- he played a tender-hearted doctor and there was such a sweetness about him that I'm convinced he must be a kind person IRL.
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wits
August 27, 2013 at 5:39 PM
Finding Hallyuwood is truly insightful. It's cool to hear Lee Byung Hun and Han Chae Young speak English well. Also, I've always liked Choi Siwon but to hear him discuss this topic intelligently - well, now I'm truly impressed.
I am not Korean, but k-dramas, (and some kpop) have made me fall in love with the people and culture of this unique country.
I'm so thankful that you posted this docu film, JB and GF. Great job, Sean Richards!
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ilikemangos
August 27, 2013 at 5:53 PM
Same. Choi Si Won sounded so intelligent and articulated his words well, while Lee Byun Hun sounded deep and Han Chae Young surprised me with her english.
And that director of BOF too.
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Rachel
August 28, 2013 at 1:07 AM
I know right! Lee Byung Hun's English has improved so much since the last time I watched him speaking English in an interview.
I was totally shocked at Yoon Mi Rae's English.
What an interesting documentary.
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Emmy
August 28, 2013 at 1:51 AM
I was really impressed by Choi Si won's insightful comments about the K-wave and the industry. Not just a pretty face this one!
Han Chae-Young's English was really impressive and Lee Byung-Hoon's as well.
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27 MeeisLee
August 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM
Thanks for the KCON recap! I heard Heirs started their LA shooting so I wonder if any beanies went Lee Min Ho stalking afterwards?
And Sean Richard wasn't in Take Care of Us, Captain? According to Dramawiki he played "James," so maybe someone should correct the info?
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28 Ivoire
August 27, 2013 at 2:52 PM
Thank you for doing this! Those of us who didn't go can get a taste of what it was like. I appreciate the videos as well.
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Ivoire
August 27, 2013 at 3:09 PM
Thank you also for how detailed it is.
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29 Victoria
August 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM
We LOVED having you guys! Thanks so much for being on our panel and hanging out in our booth :)
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30 danna
August 27, 2013 at 2:55 PM
Sounds like this was a blast, and here I thought I was the lucky one being in the East Coast and seeing you guys at the NY meetup and all
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31 Timbone
August 27, 2013 at 3:16 PM
I am glad you guys had so much fun.
I hope to be for the there next year
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32 Evelia
August 27, 2013 at 3:18 PM
By the way there where this group of girls holding pieces of papers and I think one of them said:
"Exchanging tickets for 2AM. $20 for tickets. Please."
Did anyone else who was at KCON see them too?
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geekcollage
August 27, 2013 at 11:50 PM
Yup, there was tons of them. When I made in around 12, a security guard was working on dispersing them from the entrance.
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33 Cara
August 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM
Exo fans are always ridiculously loud
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34 Ace
August 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM
You know what I got from reading this? Hunger. I want that Kang Ho-dong pork and beef bbq. Right. Now. *booking tickets to Seoul*
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35 Hari
August 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM
It's so great you were able to participate in this event & enjoyed it! The Viki ad featuring Sean is so fun. Yay Dramabeans!
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36 divyrus
August 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM
That sounds whole lot of fun !
Fandoms are awesome !
What wouldn't I give to have that feeling of being with people who share that craziness Atleast for that one day!?? *sighs*
Dream on div! It's never gonna happen !
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37 divyrus
August 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM
Finally pics !!!
And okay, I know the names and I have the faces now,
So can someone match the names and faces for me!?!!
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38 Grace
August 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM
so sad i missed it... i live in canada so all i can do now is wait and watch all the clips and recaps. thanks for sharing and great wrap up! how much is it to get into the convention by the way?
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39 noernov
August 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM
Sounds so good..I wish I was there?wait...there's another one just like me???welcome to Kdrama,welcome to my world :)
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40 Nheony
August 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM
I had fun reading the recap and at the same time sad that I missed it. Thank you to Dramabeans team for your recaps (I'd go crazy without it).It's become a part of my kdrama obsession as much as watching the dramas themselves.
On a side note...whatever happened to the Dramabeans meetup group? I signed up but never got an email confirmation that an actual group was created.I need some drama geeks to bond with here in SD. *echo* *echo*
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geekcollage
August 27, 2013 at 11:53 PM
South Dakota or San Diego? Because me too!
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41 kdramafan
August 27, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Great write up of what sounds like a great weekend.
Enjoyed the Sean Richard doco too.
Be interesting to see the changes in Korean entertainment management and production styles-if any-over the next 5 years.
In the meantime as someone mentioned above there are still places for KPop to get recognized ie. Britain and Europe.
Exciting times hey:)
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42 Yuhotarubi
August 27, 2013 at 4:47 PM
Gaaaaaaaaaah, I wish I was there :( it looks like so much fun, I wish I can be at the next meetup. Thanks JB and GF for the news.
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43 Joey O
August 27, 2013 at 4:50 PM
I was only able to make it to the concert part (which my husband came with... And now understands my KPOP love). But I can honestly tell you that I was about to skip a portion of a surprise party so that I could make it to your panel! I've never posted on your site but I've been reading it for over a year. I introduced your site to my sisters and they now read you too! Love your take on so many recaps... And I must thank you for them. Hopefully I can meet you guys one day! Keep up the great work!
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44 ck1Oz
August 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM
Nice write up sounds as if you guys had a blast.
Just curious did any of the viki subbers or seggers actually turn up as fans?
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45 Sajen
August 27, 2013 at 5:45 PM
Part of me is jealous of people that live on the west coast or with enough money to make the flight. Another much larger part of me realizes that, no matter how much fun I might have meeting other drama fans, ultimately in a crowd that size with all that screaming I'd be miserable.
Watching the Crayon Pop video reminded me of this nagging question I've had about boy/girl groups for a long time.
Do they ever get embarrassed up there doing their goofy dances, singing their goofy songs, and wearing even goofier outfits?
Maybe I just don't "get" K-pop, oh well my loss I suppose.
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pigtookie
August 27, 2013 at 11:49 PM
For Crayon Pop specifically, I've watched some of their music videos before this song, and this song was a big shift from their previous title tracks, and they definitely went out of their ways to act goofy for this goofy song.
Because this song is so goofy though, it's all good fun. It's refreshing to see idols change gears and act 'uncool' for the song, like it was with Gangnam Style.
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46 Viki
August 27, 2013 at 5:50 PM
I wasn't able to get in even though I have VIP tickets! I went to the venue earlier than the door-open time but we were stuck in human-traffic line 'til 1 o' clock! By the time we went in, you gal's panel has long ended.
Ahhh, how I wish to listen to your witty comments in person.
And omg, true, Yoo Seung Woo being squashed by giant inflatable balls was the most adorable thing!
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47 SuziQ
August 27, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Sounds Great you got to be Sean Richard's Entourage...
Now, when I go to SoCal I can try Kang Hodong because i love Korean food. Got to try it.
Thanks for letting us know since a lot of us couldn' t make it.
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48 ilikemangos
August 27, 2013 at 5:58 PM
hahahaha your brush with PPL.
I wonder how it feels to know how it actually feels.
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49 kiongna
August 27, 2013 at 6:30 PM
How wonderful to be able to put lovely faces to your names /handles :) I'm pretty sure I know who is Javabeans and Girlfriday but I'm not sure who is Gummimochi or Heads is!
Sounds and looks like you all had such a blast!
Obviously I am VERY Envious but really happy that all things worked out so well at Kcon for Dramabeans and fans!
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50 Gidget
August 27, 2013 at 6:50 PM
All that...and kudos for sharing the loot in the giveaway. Nice touch!
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