Nice Guy: Episode 7
by HeadsNo2
Huge game changers this episode, delivering new thrills and chills to the warped love story and the equally warped family story. Eun-ki and Jae-hee reach some pretty pivotal turning points in their relationship with Maru, and while one decides to make his fifth vertebrae into his sixth, the other decides to lay it all out on the line and hope for the best. I’m sure you can guess who does what.
The love for Nice Guy just keeps growing, and deservedly so. Ratings shot up over a point from last week, landing us at 17.3%.
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EPISODE 7 RECAP
We jump back a bit to see Jae-hee get that frightening call from her brother, as well as Maru’s reaction to finding out. Of course, Jae-gil tells him not to get involved, yet in the same breath says: “It looked like he was going to kill Jae-hee Noona if he got his hands on her.”
Sure, Jae-gil. That’s just the thing to say to get Maru to stay out of it.
He blames Choco for opening her mouth, but she passes it off as being a heat of the moment thing, since she was only thinking about how Jae-gil got hurt. Jae-gil takes this opportunity to sit her down and discuss her feelings for him – and how, if she keeps it up, he’ll have to shave his head and join a monastery. Ha.
She acts surprisingly mature considering it’s, well, her, and tells Jae-gil that she’s fine settling for a one-way love and that she won’t burden him with it.
When she’s gone, Jae-gil sighs, “Why am I so handsome?” Haha.
After seeing the disaster Jae-hee’s brother Jae-sik made of his house, Maru takes Jae-gil’s phone to call his own. Jae-sik picks up, and Maru agrees to tell him where Jae-hee is when they meet.
Now we’re back where we left off last episode, with Eun-ki seeing a photo of Maru and Jae-hee together. Secretary Jo was responsible for planting the photo, but a text reveals that this was all orchestrated by Min-young, even though the endgame isn’t clear. It doesn’t seem like Jae-hee was in on it, either.
Speaking of, Jae-hee looks distant and worried as she sits through an interview about her upcoming wedding.
Maru ends up seeing Eun-ki on his way out, and she hides the photo and swallows down her emotions to maintain a calm facade. She’s barely responsive as he tells her he’s got someone to meet, but he stops himself from heading off to check on her, noting that she doesn’t look good.
Eun-ki’s eyes are strangely unfocused as Maru checks her forehead for a fever, and his gentle touch reminds her of the first time all three of them (Jae-hee, Maru, and herself) had been in a room. And how he’d lied about only knowing Jae-hee from her television days.
Now, in the present, Eun-ki stares back at him with a fierce look. You just know she’s weighing every interaction in her mind to figure out exactly how much he’s lied to her. The worst part of it is, even if she counted up every lie she knew of, that’d just be the tip of the iceberg o’ betrayal.
Maru has no idea what’s going on, and just thinks she’s sick from her drinking extravaganza. Now Jae-hee’s words from the spa, “You’ll be the one to get hurt!” come crashing down on her.
She musters up the strength to wish him off, and even adds, “Come back quickly.”
However, the second he’s out of sight, Eun-ki’s knees go weak. She stares at the photo and takes it all in, her mind reeling to connect the dots, until she remembers Joon-ha’s envelope and all but tears it open. Inside is the indictment she’d filed against Maru when the whole blackmail debacle happened, only now realizing that they’re the same person.
Back in the only coffee shop in all of Seoul, Joon-ha tells Eun-ki what he knows: Maru was the one who saved her in the airplane, he and Jae-hee go back nineteen years, and that the money Jae-hee gave him was meant to keep him quiet about their relationship.
Joon-ha: “In any case, that friend, Kang Maru, approached you with an ulterior motive.” Eun-ki listens as she keeps adding more and more sugar to her coffee. (Anyone remember this same thing happening in A Love To Kill?)
Maru meets with Jae-sik at a bar, and lies to him that Jae-hee died six years ago. Jae-sik’s not buying it since he got her number off Maru’s cell, but there’s a more interesting turn when he talks about Maru’s supposed murder before he adds, “Jae-hee killed him, right? Jae-hee killed him and you took the blame, right?”
They go way back, and Jae-sik knows Maru well enough to make that assumption. “I don’t know about Jae-hee, though.” When her own brother says that… well, it says a lot.
Joon-ha tells Eun-ki about Maru’s murder charge and sentence, citing that as the reason why he was kicked out of medical school. Eun-ki then asks “What else?”, as though she’s not impressed or frightened yet.
Joon-ha blinks at her, before stressing that Maru and Jae-hee have been close for a long time (Eun-ki: “You said that before.”), and that Maru approached Eun-ki with ulterior motives. Eun-ki: “Are you dense? You already said that too.”
He tries getting through to her, but she continues to shrug him off. Maru’s list of crimes is nothing special to her. (Or so she tries to convince herself.) When he suggests legal action, Eun-ki turns on him fast, “Don’t you touch him. Don’t you dare touch a single hair on his body.”
So while Eun-ki protects Maru, Maru protects Jae-hee against the threat of her brother. We know by this point that first impressions are deceiving; Jae-sik is no model citizen, but he claims to be on Maru’s side against his self-described satanic sister.
Jae-sik: “I will take revenge for you. She’s a terrible girl who used you. I can’t explain everything to you, but there is no comparing me with that bitch.” He claims that he’ll take care of Maru’s revenge, his mom’s revenge, and his own revenge against Jae-hee.
This sets Maru off, and he kicks Jae-sik down before pouncing on him, shoving his face into the seat cushion as he grates out, “Don’t you even lurk anywhere near Jae-hee. If you do, I’ll kill you with my bare hands!” He makes sure to drive the point home that he did kill someone before, and he can do it again.
Joon-ha asks Chairman Seo to reinstate Eun-ki now that she did as he asked and blocked the strike.
When Chairman Seo protests against honoring the deal, Joon-ha smartly uses his resignation as a bargaining chip. However, their conversation takes an even darker when Joon-ha tells him that if he doesn’t get Eun-ki back now, she may never return, especially since she may have found something more important outside of her Dad’s cutthroat world.
Dad asks for some clarification, so Joon-ha spells it out, meaning every word: “Chairman, it seems Eun-ki has gone crazy.”
Meanwhile, Eun-ki meanders through Maru’s neighborhood and thinks of their first serious talk in the car, when he’d asked her what she would do if he wanted her to give him something much more valuable than a watch. Now she understands the deeper meaning to those words.
Jae-hee musters up the courage to give Maru a call, and thinks he’s behind her brother’s sudden reappearance in her life. “How far will you go? You and I, how far are we going to go? Let’s go till the end.” He doesn’t correct her.
She finds Chairman Seo unwell and knocking back some serious pills, but agrees when he orders her to bring Eun-ki back. He hands over Maru’s name and address, and wonders why Jae-hee hasn’t taken care of him yet.
Money won’t work on Maru and she tells him as much, but before leaving, comes up with an idea. Chairman Seo knows some people in low places, ones that could beat the tar out of Maru.
But then she has the nerve to ask if there won’t be any bad consequences from using that kind of force. So, basically, she’s fine with breaking every bone in his body as long as he doesn’t die.
Eun-ki catches Maru on his way home, and takes him to a pretty vista overlooking Seoul for a drink. She knows, we know, he doesn’t know that she knows, but it’s still cute when he drinks some of her beer for her so she’ll drink less, considering her epic drinking contest from the night before.
She points out all the lights, and says that among those lights are Maru’s future wife and her future husband. She turns to him, cool as a cucumber, and says that he’ll have to send her an invitation when he gets married.
Ah, this is a breakup. It hits Maru at the same time, and Eun-ki notes his kicked puppy expression: “Could it be… you thought of me as a potential marriage partner?” And basically tells him that she was way out of his league from the start.
Here’s the Eun-ki from the first few episodes, but by now we know this tough facade is a tried and true defense mechanism. She explains herself as having decided to fall for him and see how long it lasted, but, “My feelings lasted longer than I expected. That’s a compliment.”
We see her vulnerability begin to peek through as she explains what she thinks (hopes) he’s feeling – enraged, maybe even struggling to accept the harsh reality of being without her.
That’s why it throws her for a loop and takes some serious wind out of her sails when Maru simply replies: “It’s not hard. I understand.” And the way she’s like, “You… understand?” just breaks my heart.
It’s even sadder when she wistfully says what a bother it would have been if he’d hung on to her, which reads to me as: Hang on to me, please.
But he doesn’t, and she stumbles home alone while she fights back tears. Maru is as unreadable as ever as he keeps drinking where she left him.
Eun-ki looks more than unwell, and we can literally hear the sound of her world crashing down as her vision begins to blur. Jae-hee slowly filters into view, having come to bring her back, but is promptly shocked when Eun-ki just faints on the spot.
Maru finally gathers himself up to go home, only to have a mysterious attacker brutally smash a piece of wood over his skull. Eeeek.
In an interesting turn, we see the end of Jae-hee’s conversation with Chairman Seo as she drives an unconscious Eun-ki home. At the mention of hiring thugs, Chairman Seo had actually said no. So Jae-hee orchestrated the attack all on her own.
Two thugs beat Maru until he’s bloody and wheezing, and hold the phone to his ear once he’s knocked down with Jae-hee on the line.
She coldly refers to him as “Mr. Kang,” and tells him that all he has to do is sign a few documents promising to never step near her “daughter” again, and in return, he’ll get a lavish estate in California and a speedy plane ticket.
Jae-hee mentions that Choco will be cared for too, however, “If you decline it this time, next time, your most loved one will get hurt.” Eun-ki stirs awake at different points during this conversation, but it’s not clear how much she actually hears.
Maru has no choice but to listen silently when he probably can’t feel his face, but oh man, if looks could kill. (And he’s only got one good eye at his disposal, too!)
Jae-gil leaves Maru a voicemail a short while later, having done as he asked by temporarily hiding Choco away with him at an island retreat. She doesn’t know anything about Maru getting beaten, and Jae-gil promises that he’ll take care of her until Maru’s well again.
Choco knows enough to be suspicious, but is too distracted by the thought of jumping Jae-gil’s bones to worry too much. He finds the thought hilarious, and reiterates the point that they’re not a man and a woman, but a brother and younger sister. Choco doesn’t help her case by throwing a childlike tantrum.
We find Eun-ki undergoing IV treatment at home and under Jae-hee’s care. Joon-ha comes for a visit with a tonic delivery, and I love how he is clearly not buying anything Jae-hee is selling and makes his dislike of her clear. (As if I needed any more reason to like him.)
He’s come at Chairman Seo’s call, and it looks like he’s just found the CCTV tape of Jae-hee kissing Min-young. Crap. Joon-ha cringes: “You knew about it?” Which isn’t the choice pick of words for Chairman Seo, who then grits out, “So you already knew about this? Why didn’t you say something? Are you in this together with them?”
Joon-ha says that he and Eun-ki thought the shock would be too much, and Dad’s even more upset to realize that everyone knew but him. Still, he warns Joon-ha against letting anyone know, even Eun-ki, that he knows.
With fire in his eyes, Chairman Seo tells Joon-ha to use every power under the law to bring Jae-hee and Min-young down. And when the law isn’t enough, he suggests doing anything and everything necessary, even framing the innocent, to make sure Jae-hee and Min-young rot in prison for thirty years.
Oh, it’s on. He finishes his calculating tirade by adding that only then can he die in peace, and will entrust Eun-ki to Joon-ha’s care once he’s gone.
As for Min-young, having a spy in Secretary Jo proves belatedly useful as he finds out that Chairman Seo already saw the damning tape, along with Joon-ha. He rages uselessly.
The neighborhood ajumma brings some soup to Maru’s house, but no one comes to the door. A pair of shoes at the entrance seems to indicate Maru is inside, though.
Eun-ki finally regains consciousness, and stares wistfully at a packet of medicine Maru gave her. Flash back to when he gave it to her at the end of their breakup conversation, where Eun-ki had been moved by the gesture and asked hopefully, “Is there more? Do you have anything else to say?”
Maru didn’t, and back in the present, Eun-ki crumples up his parting gift.
Choco is ready to head back to Seoul the next day, although her sneaking attempts are quickly foiled when she can’t help but edge closer to Jae-gil as he sleeps. He wakes up with a start, cue another round of bickering, only he has to physically hold Choco back under the lie that Maru is off gallivanting with a girl.
She knows that can’t be true when Maru leaves his phone on all the time in case she faints, and Jae-gil’s quick to point out that he’s always the one who runs to her in times like that anyway.
And that’s what she uses that to make her case: “See? You’re doing all these cool things for me. If I received some love from you and then you tell me not to love you, what am I supposed to do?” Jae-gil faux-comforts her by assuring her that he won’t run to her in the future even if she dies.
She gets her revenge by telling him she kissed him multiple times when she carried him home drunk. He gives her another hit on the head, but grows concerned about Maru and tries calling again. We only see the dark house and the same set of shoes outside.
Jae-hee stops Eun-ki from trying to go to work in her weakened state, explaining that her Dad has made it so that she can’t take one step outside.
Eun-ki isn’t fazed, and calls Jae-hee out on sending thugs to beat Maru: “You knew that I was listening.” Jae-hee shrugs as she owns up to it, but Eun-ki gets the last laugh when she adds that Maru didn’t give in. “I really chose my man very well.”
Jae-hee just leaves, and makes sure to lock Eun-ki inside her room. No amount of pushing or pulling gets her out.
A call from Jae-sik puts Jae-hee on edge, but her brother just commends her on raising a loyal dog like Maru. “He threatened to tear me apart if I came anywhere near you,” Jae-sik explains, which hits Jae-hee like a sucker punch to the ladyparts. After all, she had Maru beaten because she thought he was working with her brother, not because of Eun-ki.
So now she knows she’s done (even more) wrong, and barely listens as her brother asks to meet her like old times. She hangs up the phone, and he breaks his own in frustration.
Later that night, Eun-ki holds her Barbie as she remembers how Maru risked himself to save it, how he gave her strength when she fought for her mom’s resort, how he kissed her in Japan, and how he’d warned her to run away from him with all her might.
At the memory of that specific conversation, Eun-ki gathers her resolve and again tries to leave, but the door is locked. She notices that the outside guard is missing due to the storm, and rips off her curtains to use as a rope to make it down to ground level.
During this time, Jae-hee prepares a meal in to-go boxes while Chairman Seo is asleep, and my guess is that she’s planning to take them to Maru. Hah. What’s she gonna say? Sorry I had you beaten mercilessly over a misunderstanding, here’s some bulgogi?
Eun-ki drives to Maru’s neighborhood and starts the climb up shoeless, all while getting soaked to the bone. No one answers at his gate and she rails against it, calling his name.
Just when she’s about to give up, the gate creaks open, and Maru all but crawls out. His poor face is a disaster, and Eun-ki registers the shock in tears. What she says next is confessed with all the feeling in the world, and made somehow more meaningful (and eerie) by Maru just staring at her with his one wide-open eye.
Eun-ki: “That was my first kiss. The one that we had by Hirosaki Castle. From someone… it was also the first time I told someone ‘I love you’ with all my heart. It was the first time in my twenty-nine years of life. ‘I love you, Seo Eun-ki.’ I heard that kind of heart-thumping confession for the first time because of you. Because of the guy named Kang Maru, waking up, breathing, living… those things felt wondrous for the very first time.”
Maru inches up to her, and wipes her tears away with his thumb. (Yeah, it’s raining, just roll with it.) She continues:
“So… My only wish now is to be able to see you every day, to say ‘I love you’ every day, to hear you tell me you love me every day, to dream the same dream, to give birth to children, to raise them, and to grow old with you. Is that possible?”
And the way she stares at him, scared out of her mind now that she’s laid everything out, just makes her seem so vulnerable. So it’s like a sigh of relief when he finally wraps her up in his arms, but then his eyes focus on something over her shoulder – Jae-hee.
She’s standing with an umbrella and a disbelieving, and Maru just holds Eun-ki tighter, and sends her a silent warning in a glare: This is mine.
COMMENTS
Be still, my heart! I’ve tried to keep such a cool head about this show (even worrying for a while that my love for it was just at a clinical level), but Eun-ki going all in was the straw that broke the I-don’t-know-about-this-Maru-fellow’s back. I’m going down with this ship, even though it’ll probably sink way lower than I can imagine, and even with the pretty decent chance that everyone will end up unhappy, or dead. With this kind of drama, who knows where we’ll end up?
So far Maru’s been a pretty passive/reactive character, with the whole “I’m going to get my revenge on you sometime maybe somehow later” thing going on, and this episode wasn’t too different. I felt pity for him when he got beat up for something he didn’t do, even after being mildly miffed that he’s still ready to do anything it takes to protect Jae-hee. No surprise there, since living for Jae-hee is just who Maru is and what he does.
That seemed like a fact of life that just wasn’t going to change, but this episode marked the first time where I found myself hoping that it would. In short, I’m tentatively invested in Maru’s personal journey, now that there might be a tiny light at the end of the long angst tunnel. Most of that is based on what could be a completely misguided interpretation of that look he shot to Jae-hee at the end. That’s one thing Nice Guy has been pretty consistent at – giving us little moments to interpret how we will. I think that’s why it’s been so fun so far.
There’ve been some points raised about Eun-ki’s character being inconsistent from what we were presented with in the first few episodes, and while my opinion is always evolving, Eun-ki seems surprisingly well drawn-out to me, with very realistic (if not sometimes infuriating) character traits and serious flaws that make her human. This is hugely helped by a good writing hand and Moon Chae-won’s performance, since she’s able to make Eun-ki as vulnerable as she is strong.
No woman is tough twenty-four hours of the day, and I think it’s especially telling that Maru is her first true love. She’s got a good head on her shoulders but she’s still incredibly subject to her own impulses, which is a trait that Dad seems to want to squeeze right out of her. It is a flaw, both in personal business and business business, especially since her most recent bouts of problem solving have cost Dad money instead of making him any.
But to her credit, it doesn’t seem like Dad ever wanted her completely out of his reach, and could just be putting her through hell to toughen her up so she can take over once he’s dead. They certainly have a strange relationship, but the same can be said of pretty much every relationship as far as this drama is concerned.
As far as Eun-ki’s big confession, though, I’m just sold. She knows his past is shady, knows he’s not necessarily in this for her, and knows she might get hurt – but she’s in it to win it, and it’s in keeping with her character to just bare her soul to the only person who’s ever told her he loves her. It leaves her extra vulnerable and ripe for Maru’s machinations, and if nothing else I hope he realizes that Eun-ki is not the type of girl to let this all fade like some terrible nightmare.
So congratulations to Maru, since he now has a female version of himself who’ll probably go to the same ends of the earth he did for love. My only hope is that he doesn’t become to Eun-ki what Jae-hee became to him.
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51 chulz08
October 5, 2012 at 6:40 AM
---CRIED TO THE MAX----
This episode made me cry..to what moment?? It's when EG finally admits to MR that she falls for him and willing to sacrifice her inheritance for HIM..my oh my that moment when she confess that it was her 1st kiss..I can't even..MCW nailed it...
On the other hand, this episode switched the story from revenge to Romeo-Juliet kinda plot..that moment when we all thought that JH's brother was behind MR's bruises and injury but the next thing we knew all those thugs hired by JH were hitting MR to the bones (poor MR :(..and JH noona, you crazy little thing)..
But then the next episode will reveal the true JH..I'm pretty sure the amnesia thingy will show up before we hit episode 10..til then..thanks for recapping :))
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52 Farpavilions
October 5, 2012 at 7:04 AM
I love pretty much everything about this show except for the subplot.
The Choco/Jaegil loveline has no functionality as far as I can tell except to show that Maru does have a fairly good support network (but why spend so much screentime on it
instead of giving us more puppies and sunshine?). The sudden switches between melo and romcom are pretty aggravating ... it's hardly Shakespeare-level where minor comic characters actually do serve to comment on the plot, so why oh why...?
I'm thrilled that Eun-Gi susses out Maru's ulterior motives so quickly (not that it's clear at this point what he really wants with Jae Hee) and decides to go for broke anyway. It's been a while since I've met a kickass complicated heroine! (Thousand Day Promise comes to mind but biology trumps character there so it doesn't really count)
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ilikemangos
October 5, 2012 at 12:57 PM
I KNOW. i LOVED(&am relieved) that eun-gi found out now, early on. We know she willingly accepted the danger she's getting into. (This will make me pity her alot less in the future!) Later we won't have those dramatic dragged-out misunderstandings. I think It'd just be the typical revenge melo if she found out towards the end when she's all deep in love and realizes everything was for nothing and then we get a bunch of possibly push-pull noble idiocy (please no!)
--And the choco jaegil scenes need to go or need to be utilized with the main story. Which at this point i don't know how that's possible.
Ach. that's my main complaint for this show!
But i'm loving how it makes me feel!
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mskololia
October 5, 2012 at 3:16 PM
Well, in their defense, we found out that Choco's memories were faulty. She mentioned that her brother always came to her rescue when she fell ill, but it was JG who came to her aid mostly.
Selective amnesia comes to mind as a major theme of this drama.
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S a r a h
October 5, 2012 at 2:26 PM
I guess they put it in there as a sort of relief for the audience. You know, everything and everyone is dark and brooding, and they're the only ones to lighten up the mood.
oh well.
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53 owl
October 5, 2012 at 8:41 AM
You've got to go back to the emotional and psychological place where Ma Roo traded his life for Jae Hee's and took the rap for her to figure out their present twisted encounters. Now, 7 years later, the needy person she was then ihas become a self-serving and self-aware (in the ugliest sense of the word) woman who does what it takes to get more than she deserves and she no longer needs MaRoo in the same way. But MaRoo only knows her as the woman she was at the scene of the crime. THey are completely dysfunctional as a couple any way you look at it which has left Ma Roo as the walking dead.
Looks like Jae Hee's brother (and mom? she was briefly mentioned in the list of stepped on people) has painful revenge in mind and we don't know what their story is yet. He's scary. Actually, so is the Chairman. "Let them rot for 30 years for what they've done." He says what he means and he means what he says.
Eun ki is an intellectual lover that leaves something to be desired on the emotional level, at least for me. Way to roller coaster and unbalanced. I haven't clicked with her. I agaree with the posts that can't see Eun ki and Ma Roo's backgrounds meshing- both wounded but in profoundly different ways and on totally different planes - in a way that will work. Her confession in the rain wihtout acknowledging Ma Roo's beat up condition was intellectual love with no compassion.
But then, who says relationships have to be healthy? This drama is a mirky soup of emotionally unhealthy people but that sure doesn't stop them from aggressively and relentlessly forcing themselves into each other lives. In fact, they live for that. And, the need for a kdrama addiction fix keeps me coming back. I want more!
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ilikemangos
October 5, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Owl, i always love reading your insights! Always gives me more to think about & quite enlightening.
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mskololia
October 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM
@owl, great write-up.
The EG character is not written with any depth (to me) so far. It so drive by and fast. Needless to say, I have not warmed up to her character either.
I really thought she should've helped him back inside and got something warm inside him and then confessed. Seeing the man she loved (?) looking like the hunchback of notre dame after a day of being apart, the shock should have driven her to do something for him. Nope. She asks him to do something for her first, while standing in the cold pouring rain in his condition.
Poor, poor MR<333.
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54 neener
October 5, 2012 at 9:35 AM
don't have time to watch it but I've got time to read it :D
love the statement of " only coffee shop in all of Seoul" totally LOLed!
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55 RealKDramaaddict
October 5, 2012 at 9:36 AM
I wanted this story to be about JH finding herself and reuniting with MR. Now I don't want any of them to end up together. They all need therapy first.
I enjoy watching JH's character development. JH's ultimate goal in securing her position is weakened by her feelings for MR. No matter how cold and calculated she acts, he will bring her down because of that.
So far, this drama exposes weaknesses, not strengths.
I am not surprised by Chairman's nuclear rage at JH and the lawyer. Kicking out his first wife, then EK, the man clearly self-destructs and burns with paranoia, albeit well-founded in JH's case. EK used to resemble him at the beginning...
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Tazzo
October 5, 2012 at 10:15 AM
"They all need therapy first"----hahaha the best thing i have read in the comments sections so far! :P
see the 8th epi...even more powerful than the 7th! happy watching :)
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ilikemangos
October 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM
"They all need therapy first. " I cracked a big smile at that.
haha.
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ar
October 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM
Agree with you about them needing therapy! While a part of me wants a Eun-gi and Maru endgame, what I really want is for all of them to get therapy or use these 20 episodes as a therapy session so they can go out and live a normal lives with significant others who would never have to suffer that effed up part of our characters. Like maybe Maru should go and marry a girl like Sora from Haneundae Lovers. Maybe Jae-hee can get with Yoon Kye-sang's character from Greatest Love. And Eun-gi can get with someone like Cha Tae-hyun's character from My Sassy Girl.
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56 Betsy Hp
October 5, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Okay, love the recap (thanks HeadsNo2!), love the episode and totally eager to watch ep 8. But! I must share a few thoughts before I do so. (Also, I've not read any comments for fear of spoilers, so apologies if I end up repeating already shared opinions.)
Thought the first: I loved, loved, loved that Eun-ki broke up with Maru first. That she did the smart thing, then did some massive thinking, and only then decided she couldn't be "smart" and ran out to lay it all out on the line before Maru. It just gave her confession so much more oomph. She's madly in love but her eyes are open and that means she's as sincere as sincere can be.
Thought the second: Jea-sik (who is so much more interesting than I thought he'd be in ep 6 -- why did I doubt?) encapsulated Maru so perfectly, I thought. Maru really is Jea-hee's dog. Loyal even after dreadful abuse, unable to see a life without her as anchor (either positive or negative). The way he curled up in his den after being injured just highlighted the analogy for me.
But I think that level of loyalty and commitment could actually be more a feature than a bug. It's just, Maru threw his commitment behind the wrong person. If Eun-ki, who seems to be built the same way, could win over Maru's love (and loyalty and commitment)... then puppies and flowers for all! :) *fingers-crossed*
(My understanding is that a dog comparison is always(?) a negative in Korea, so I understand Jea-sik meant it as an insult. But for me I can see how those traits -- that unconditional love -- can be a good thing if not abused. If that makes any sense at all.)
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ilikemangos
October 5, 2012 at 1:15 PM
"She’s madly in love but her eyes are open and that means she’s as sincere as sincere can be."
I loved that scene. I loved how her words portray her to be such a badass woman, but how her eyes and facial expressions said differently. I thought it was great acting, and i totally felt for her then. She was telling maru one thing but wishing another and hoping he'd somehow look through her show and tell her what she wants to hear.
I also LOVE how she was the first to make this "break-up".
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Betsy Hp
October 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM
That scene was such a good combination of writing and acting and directing. What could have been an over-the-top melo kind of scene instead came across as so raw and therefore real. And a confession that could have made Eun-gi seem so weak instead made her look so strong. (I'm honestly not sure how I could love Eun-gi more.)
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ladida
October 5, 2012 at 4:01 PM
So I have this whole theory about the way Maru and Eun Ki speak to each other, that Eun Ki has this way of testing him and Ma Ru this way of rising up to the challenge, and I feel like that's what was going on during the break up scene. Lawyer Park kept on saying "ulterior motive," and I think that really got to Eun Ki, so when she goes to break up with Maru she's testing him to see if it's true. Her face falls when he agrees to it, like she's confused and surprised and hurt. I think if he'd tried to stay with her, the way he did in episode 4 when he told her they need to have a proper kiss, her worries would be confirmed and she wouldn't have gone back to him. But because he agreed, because he gave her that medication even after he'd agreed, she decided it was worth a chance to ask him sincerely to try to build a life together. Hmmm...still working out what's going on in that scene.
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ladida
October 5, 2012 at 3:56 PM
On thought the second: You know, I was watching this episode and when Jae Shik told Maru that he "knew" him, I couldn't help but think about how long Jae Hee and Maru have known each other. Maru knew of her before he'd even met her, was smitten with her before they'd met, and has been in love with her for the majority of his life. But how long were they actually dating, in a reciprocal romantic relationship? They only got together in college, and while I realize med school takes a long time (8 years, is it?) he was still in med school when he took the rap for her. How long has their relationship been one in which Maru's been in love with Jae Hee and she's been keeping him (romantically) at bay? I'm pretty sure Jae Hee was his first kiss, his first everything (just as Eun Ki calls him her first). He actively rejected other women while holding out for Jae Hee. He can't imagine a life without Jae Hee because he's never had a life without her. I'm thinking that Maru doesn't really know anything about being in love with anybody else. He must be really confused by his developing feelings for Eun Ki, because he's starting to feel these things for someone else.
And on him being Jae Hee's dog: there's something about the way Maru expresses love for people; it's like the only way he knows how to show he loves someone is by protecting them, and as an extension of his doctor dream, by caring for their ailments. For Jae Hee this tendency went so far as to take on her responsibilities. There's something going on with him, like someone has to be sick or otherwise vulnerable for him to care for them, and I don't like that. Like, why does Eun Ki have to strip down so much, bare herself so much, make herself so susceptible, in order for him to start genuinely caring for her?
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Betsy Hp
October 6, 2012 at 3:23 PM
I officially love your theory about Maru's and Eun-gi's conversations, ladida. :) I totally agree that it's what they say to each other -- or how Maru reacts to what Eun-gi says -- that is the foundation of her falling for him. Much more than his looks, say.
And yeah, Maru is an interesting case himself. He's not mentally healthy -- or doesn't have a healthy way of looking at relationships -- either. When did his dad leave him and Choco? I got the impression he'd pretty much been on his own (and responsible for Choco) from a really young age. And it looks like that left a mark, though he hides it fairly well.
So then the question becomes, will a relationship with Eun-gi help him? (And will her relationship with Maru help her?) It seems like the relationship between Maru and Jea-hee was actually toxic, though on the surface it appeared to be helping them both out of fairly bleak circumstances.
(And yeah, I suspect the discussion's moved on to ep 8. But I couldn't not answer before moving on. ;) )
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57 KZ
October 5, 2012 at 12:56 PM
God. Felt so bad when I saw Maru's face all beaten up. So glad when Jae Hee realized the wrong she just did. Bwahahah b!tch slap to the face
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58 ilikemangos
October 5, 2012 at 1:57 PM
You know, i know this drama has it's glaring imperfections, but I'm on this ride to see the emotional journey of redemption for our characters and to see eun-gi and maru find happiness with each other.
Despite the random jaegil/choco scenes, the typical melo tropes and the questionable logic, I am captivated by our characters.
It's like one of those shows you know isn't perfect but at the same time you love it anyways because it draws out alot of your inner emotions and so you keep holding on.
It was like that for WISFC -- emotional, heart-breaking, bittersweet despite the twisted mess towards the end.
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59 fab
October 5, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Eun Gi is steeling the show and Maru let's JH walk over him every time she gets the chance to. No matter what horrible things JH's been through, she cannot be forgiving for what she is doing. She is not badass she is just fake and low, even her own shadow is frightening her...
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RealKDramaaddict
October 6, 2012 at 12:26 AM
I think JH is stealing the show because of the stellar performance by PSY.
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60 lilly
October 5, 2012 at 5:48 PM
heartbreaking!!!!!!!!yeaahhh we sometimes break up with the poeple we love to death because there's no other way but it does not mean love would end. i can feel the pain for eun gi when she suggests that they break up. its like she's waiting for maru to say no no break up but instead he nods his head so breakkkkk
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61 Aliiiiiiiice
October 5, 2012 at 6:54 PM
Also... I hope they explain all the women's mysterious illnesses.
Does JaeHee's hip flare up under cases of extreme romantic control-issue-triggered stress?
What's up with EunGi's illness?
What's up with Choco's illness?
Why are they all so sporadic?
The ONE thing I'd really love the show to do is clearly draw out what these illnesses are, because when they're vague and pop up only during times of crises, it kind of calls for plot device abuse.
I know we had a lot of that in the 90s and early 2000's -- female character's having a lot of emotional stress? Let's have her collapse to have the leading man's bout of noble idiocy be rattled as he races to her side.
The story's being so smart with everything else, I hope that there are deeper insights or revelations connected to these mysterious illnesses. (Namely EunGi's which was not aggravated by her tumble off her motorcycle in episode 2, but possibly triggered after she broke it off with Maru.)
I mean, if JaeHee half collapsing in the bar a few eppy's back is really connected to her brother's physical abuse, then why did it not flare up earlier during her "struggle" with the dude she accidentally killed -- ya know, the accidental murder that got everyone into this mess?
As for Choco and JaeGil's romance? I don't mind. For me, they bring the puppies and sunshine to what can become an intensely dismal piece.
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ar
October 5, 2012 at 7:59 PM
I don't mind the Choco and JaeGil relationship either. I see them as a fun commercial in the drama of MaruxJHxEG. I do wish more could be done with them though.
Yeah those mysterious illnesses! It was more tolerable in the 90s and early years of 2000s, but with the advent of House and shows involving medicine and/or the human body showing us that there is a rational, medical explanation for every medical mystery....it's hard to accept that no one is going to explain why these characters are feeling sick.
Maybe the truth will turn out to be that the Taesan company is dumping illegal toxic waste in the city's water supply and that's why all these characters are feeling sick.
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Aliiiiiiiice
October 6, 2012 at 7:35 PM
::guffaws::
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62 Noelle
October 5, 2012 at 8:25 PM
Wow. So when is the amnesia gonna happen? I have a feeling Jae Hee will be behind that. Maybe it will be her with a 2X4.
I'm so interested in JH's brothers description of her. Makes me think she wasn't as much of a helpless victim as she made herself out to be. Maybe she really was a monster in the corner all along and Maru only realized it too late.
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63 jandoe
October 5, 2012 at 11:02 PM
"So congratulations to Maru, since he now has a female version of himself who’ll probably go to the same ends of the earth he did for love. My only hope is that he doesn’t become to Eun-ki what Jae-hee became to him."
Heads, THIS.
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64 Fatemeh
October 6, 2012 at 3:06 PM
Song Jung Ki is just killing me! I thought, hoped, Maru's hugging Eun Ki was real, even allowed myself a little smile and then there she was, his lost love nuna looking from behind and him looking back at her. Just kills me!
Thanks for the recap!
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65 Angie
October 8, 2012 at 3:59 PM
totally wasn't meaning to laugh @ joong ki's wonky eye...but it kinda came out at that last rain scene..
puahahah...oops.
i mean. T_T
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66 Lilian
October 9, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I love Eun Ki as a character. I know that nice guy is referring to Maru, as he is the lead. But Lawyer Joon Ha is grabbing my attention too. Eun Ki should realise that she has another shoulder to lean on in times like this.
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67 Abbie
October 10, 2012 at 7:51 PM
My favorite part of this episode was Eun-ki's confession. It was so heartbreaking and sad. I really don't want her to get hurt more than she is, but with this show, who knows? The reason I've never liked revenge dramas, is there is always a chance someone, or everyone will die. I hate that. But, what can you do? However, if that someone is Jae-hee or Min-young, then I'm all for it.
Thanks for the recap, Heads!
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68 Ennayra
December 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM
Thanks for the recap!
Why is this show so good? I'm thoroughly entertained. :-)
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69 anon
December 18, 2012 at 11:44 AM
i know this comment came a little too late but i'm only starting to watch Nice Guy now.
i just want to express that my heart HURT A LOT when i saw Maru's injured face :(((((( :'((((( :((((( it pains me so much :(
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70 Mitchi
March 2, 2013 at 6:56 AM
I love Eun Gi's confession. From a girl who was all work and calculations, shedding her shell for the first time and being able of feeling some love for Maru was really sweet. When I saw her confessing, and when I heard her confession for Maru, it made me cry. The scene was just so sweet!
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71 chime gochan
May 29, 2013 at 2:16 AM
One thing I noticed in this drama. Most of Park Siyeon's clothes are horrible.
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