Faith: Episode 8
by girlfriday
Of all the relationships in dramaland, there is one that will always get me right in the heart—that of a warrior and his king. There’s a lot this show doesn’t do right, but boy does it do that one thing really well. It’s the first episode that has me pumping my fist at the badassery, clutching my heart at the bromance, and excited for the things to come…
EPISODE 8 RECAP
Ki Chul has Choi Young surrounded, and brought to his knees. Young doesn’t fight back, given Firestarter’s hand looming on Eun-soo’s shoulder, and gets led away in chains.
The officers take his sword and knife, and Chun Eum-ja stops them, knowing Young’s bound to have more weapons hidden on his body. He smirks and lifts up his pant leg so they can get the one on his ankle.
He says that’s everything. I dunno… I’d check all over, just in case.
Ki Chul goes to see what happened with Little Boy King Chungjeong, and finds him dead from the poison he gave. Chun Eum-ja joins him and they both deduce the only conclusion that makes sense to them: that Choi Young fed the poison to the boy to save himself. I do enjoy that the other option doesn’t even occur to you two as a possibility.
Ki Chul lights up at the spoils of his victory: Choi Young’s sword, the god-sword handed down from his Jeokwoldae leader. I’m hoping if it’s supernatural that it works like a harry potter wand and rejects you or makes you stab your foot a bunch of times.
Eun-soo paces back and forth, saying it’s all wrong, all wrong… the Choi Young in her history books lives to be an old grandpa general, so he can’t die now. Hwasuin asks curiously if she really knows the future, and wonders what’s written about her.
Eun-soo just worries, “Something’s strange… little by little, it’s becoming different from the history that I know.”
She asks what’ll happen to Young if he’s taken away like this, and Hwasuin describes the painful death that awaits him like it’s turning her on. You are one strange cookie. Eun-soo asks if there isn’t a retrial or anything, because she could be a witness—Choi Young might be a murderer, but he’s no traitor.
Hwasuin says the only one who holds sway in this matter is Ki Chul, and Eun-soo asks if he has any weaknesses. Hwasuin laughs that if he did, she’d have killed him long ago. She does advise her not to show any fear, and wishes her success—she doesn’t want Choi Young to die so quickly either.
Young just sits back in his cage and naps, which doesn’t surprise me but still makes me laugh. I guess it’s the safest he’s been in days, technically. The governor comes by to say he shouldn’t be too mad, and Young figures he oughtn’t blame anyone else when he’s the one who walked into the trap.
The governor offers up his threefold success strategy now: figure out who has the power, stick to that person, and by any means, believe wholeheartedly that you are right in that decision. Uh… that’s your big speech?
Young remains unflappable, until Eun-soo appears behind Ki Chul. They give each other charged looks before she rides along with the entourage behind his cage.
Princess Noguk finds out that Ki Chul’s men are now guarding the king instead of Woodalchi—the same men who came after her in the street. She realizes now that Ki Chul thinks nothing of killing her. Oh are we now finally caught up to the idea that going there was a dumb move? That took you way too long.
She worries about the king, locked away alone, no one to trust by his side. She murmurs, “The king is… a dummy.” Pffft.
Gongmin has essentially been reduced to a prisoner in his own palace—the guards are there for his “protection” so they say, but it’s not clear whether they’re keeping anyone out or in.
Deoki provides a distraction for Dae-man to sneak into Woodalchi headquarters, where Choong-seok asks for a report—where is their leader? Is he okay? And why didn’t Joo-seok come with him?
Poor Dae-man’s stutter just gets worse when he’s under pressure, so he can barely get out the few key words. Joo-seok is on his way to see the king, to deliver a message from Young. And Young himself… not doin’ so well, since rumor has it that he’s been captured.
The younger guys argue that they have to bust out of here and go rescue their leader, but Choong-seok has to be the voice of reason: “And then what?” He reminds them that they’re also unarmed, which means they’re not good for much.
Young gets locked away in his prison cell, bound by every limb. That is some serious chainage.
Once he’s alone with his thoughts, Chungjeong’s horrifying death comes flooding back, and he cries all over again as the young king’s voice rings out, “Young-ah, it hurts… it hurts.”
And then he remembers Eun-soo’s terrified expression as she backed away from him, as she told him to get his dirty hands away from her, and how she noted with disgust that he always smelled of blood.
He pulls out the little bottle of aspirin, and the flower she gave him is tucked inside. You saved it? That’s so randomly adorable. He takes it out now and thinks of her fondly, and then puts it back in the bottle with a sigh.
Eun-soo is locked away as well, back full circle to the room she was put in when she was brought to Ki Chul the first time. The doors open and she imagines Young back here to rescue her again, now remembering how he’d made his stand, how he drank first to make sure she wouldn’t die of poisoning.
But it’s Chun Eum-ja, here to escort her to see Ki Chul. She hilariously decides the best way to not appear scared is to act like a thug, and when he offers her a chair at the table, she kicks it and then perches her foot and leans oh-so-casually.
She points out that the last time she was in this room it was “bitch this and bitch that,” and wonders why he’s being nice and offering her food now. Is it poisoned? Ki Chul laughs that if he wanted to kill her, it wouldn’t be with poison.
He wants to cut a deal, and she’s game since she has a request of her own. She maintains her cool façade, but balls up her fists under the table, as she tells him to show his cards first.
He brings out her medical implements, and then the box of identical items. She grabs them in shock—where would they have gotten these? She picks up the scalpel and etched into the handle is: “Made in Korea.” Whaaaaa?
Joo-seok finally makes his way in to see the king, with Jang Bin’s help. Thankfully, the king trusts Jang Bin and plays along with the it’s-time-for-my-medicine act, and Joo-seok has the chance to bow before Gongmin and tells him what he knows.
He admits to being Woodalchi and defying royal orders to come here, but says that Choi Young has been framed. Gongmin points out the ill timing of his message, which comes after Choi Young has been captured. Is he the failsafe in case the mutiny goes awry? Oh noes.
Joo-seok swears that’s not it, but what is his word against the suspicion of a king? Gongmin coldly throws down his sword at Joo-seok’s feet and orders him to die.
The king turns his back… and the Woodalchi draws the sword and puts it to his own throat. Ack! Ack!
He conveys the message from Choi Young to the king: “I have not yet completed the task that the king has given me.” That gives Gongmin pause. He asks if that’s the entire message.
Trembling, he says that’s everything, and pledges his allegiance to the king, asking him to live in health and become a good and wise king for Goryeo. He bows and raises the sword to slice…
Gongmin nods at Jang Bin. Please tell me that’s a signal for something! Jang Bin swoops in and knocks the sword away with his fan, sparing Joo-seok’s life. Whew. Gongmin: “You still have work to do.” Thank goodness you’re still searching for people to trust. I was seriously worried you’d given up on everyone.
Ki Chul shows Eun-soo more of Hwata’s instruments, and says that there are two more stashes like it. She asks to see them all, and he hesitates. He admits now that the bet with the king is over her heart—where is her heart now?
Eun-soo: “My heart? Belongs to me, obviously.” He asks if she’ll become one of his people and give her his heart, and she pshaws, “No.”
She offers up a bargain of her own: Doesn’t he want to know what these objects are? She confirms that they are from her world, and dangles the curiosity carrot before his gleaming eye… in exchange for Choi Young’s life.
Ki Chul says she’s bargaining all wrong, because telling him what the objects are will come as a natural part of becoming one of his people. The trade is this: Choi Young’s life for her heart.
The guards report that Young has done nothing but sleep for days. We see that he’s back in his dream world, and this time Father asks if he still hasn’t found it yet. Young asks as if searching his memory, “What… was I looking for?”
He takes a step closer, but then the ice cracks beneath him and he falls into the water below. He struggles for air but starts to choke and drown, and he clutches his throat.
Then suddenly the dream world changes into a grassy riverbank in the spring, and he’s choking but safely out on dry land. Father asks what he’s doing. Young looks around in alarm, “When did the ice melt?”
Dad wonders what he’s talking about and says this lake has never once frozen over, and he looks out at the water and back at Dad, confused and turned around.
And back in the cell, Young lies with his eyes open and glistening with tears, while his cellmate Mr. Mouse gets friendly.
The king mulls over Young’s message and ponders its meaning. He recalls the conversation it refers to, when he had first presented Gongmin with the written decree from former king Chungjeong, freeing him from his duty as Woodalchi.
Gongmin had said that he had one more task left for Young before considering that request, and Young had argued. Gongmin shouted back, asking which king he was serving…
…which means that if the message is that Young has not yet fulfilled his task, he is saying he serves Gongmin, and no one else.
It’s clever, but also, I’m like, you guys couldn’t have invented a secret handshake or a straightforward You, me, simpatico, no?
Gongmin smiles broadly as he decodes the message, and says with such relief and conviction, “He was following MY orders!” Aw, okay, this moment is worth it. I love his beaming smile, all My Woodalchi loves meeee!
He appears before the council, and Advisor Jo speaks for everyone and says that the traitor must be dealt with swiftly and decisively. Gongmin shocks them by agreeing wholeheartedly. And to that end… he’ll be going to see the prisoner himself.
The whole council gets up in arms about the king lowering himself to deal with the traitor directly, but Gongmin just asks if they’re challenging the king’s authority, and barrels right through them. Awesome.
He storms all the way into the prison, with advisors clipping at his heels. He orders them to open the door, and Advisor Jo argues vehemently that it’s not safe for him to go in the cell.
Gongmin says he’s chained up, right? He turns to Ki Won, and baits him with his vanity—is his prison filled with shoddy workmanship? Ki Won insists they use the most secure materials, and even used the extra-strength chains on Choi Young. Gongmin says he should be fine then, and tells them to open the door. Ha.
He shuts it behind him before they can protest, and walks into the inner chamber. Young stands at attention, and then bows before the king. There’s always something so moving about the giant warrior who bows before little kings with such conviction.
Gongmin confirms what he meant by the message—that he’s still serving the sitting king. He says there were two tasks he gave to Young, and Young says he completed one in finding evidence of the council’s murders.
And the second was Gongmin’s request that he find out whom he is fighting, and why he should fight. Young: “You know by now whom it is you are fighting. But I have not yet figured out why you should fight.”
Gongmin: “I already know why I fight. But… will you teach me how to fight?”
Young says he’s about to die for treason, and Gongmin asks if he’s really planning to just die that way. “Is that really what you want?”
Young just hangs his head. Gongmin crouches down to his eye level. “Teach me, how to fight… so that I can save you.” He puts his hand on Young’s shackled arm. I love this whole exchange, so much.
He says he sent the doctor to Ki Chul because he thought she’d be safer there, because he’s powerless, because he had no other way. Young asks, filled with worry: “Is she safe in that house?” Gongmin says regretfully that he has no way of finding out.
Okay, this show cracks me up. They’re talking life and death in there, and Eun-soo is… making cocktails? She does her best approximation of poktanju, by mixing a weak liquor with a strong one, and offers up a glass to Hwasuin and Ki Chul. (I love that she calls them unni and ajusshi.)
Hwasuin laughs that she’s not a doctor but a boozer, and Ki Chul complains that she said she’d give him her heart, not cocktails. But she argues that a person’s heart isn’t like a designer purse—you can’t buy it with money.
And it’s not like you can steal it away or force someone to give it. She’s basically plying him to earn her heart, and asks how he can think to win her over if he won’t accept a drink?
So bottoms up it is, though he stops her with a threatening grab of the wrist to say he won’t stand for anyone making a fool of him. She counters that she doesn’t joke around with her heart either, and says winning her heart requires at least one drink a week. “And grabbing my wrist comes much later.” He complies with a laugh… for now.
Guards look in on Young who’s slumped over, and note the pool of blood beneath him with alarm. It looks like he slit his wrists, and they worry that if he succeeds in dying—before being sentenced to death (go figure)—it’s their heads.
They rush inside and approach cautiously… and Young knocks them out with two easy blows. He swipes their keys and unlocks his chains, and leaves Mr. Mouse’s carcass behind, having bled him for the ruse. Eep.
As he fights his way out, Eun-soo goes on a date? With Ki Chul? And here I thought the mouse was giving me shivers.
The word “date” is obviously foreign to Ki Chul, and Eun-soo insists that this isn’t how you do it, with rows of guards trailing behind them. She’s so funny. I love that she turns the “having her heart” into a play on the rules of modern dating, because that’s advantageous to her—she sets the rules.
He complies and tells everyone to back off, and she smiles. What they don’t see is Young watching them from the distance, having escaped.
They sit for a moment and she tells Ki Chul about how politics works in heaven—no king, but a president that the citizens choose. He laughs at the absurdity of that. Something catches her eye and she pauses, lost in thought at the sight of the yellow flower she gave to Young.
A minion distracts Ki Chul with the latest news of the king’s visit to Young’s cell, and Eun-soo finally sees her opportunity to run. She does this comical pink panther creep behind his back, made all the funnier by the fact that he knows exactly what she’s doing. But I’m hoping Young’s presence will tip the scales unexpectedly.
She makes a run for it, and then slips and nearly falls down into a ditch… when Young catches her from behind. She’s terrified and thinks it’s Ki Chul, and she insists she wasn’t trying to run away.
But by the time she turns around, Young is gone. What? You’re leaving her there? Noooo! Why?
She looks all around her, but he’s gone. Is it because you see that she’s safe? But safe is kind of relative here, don’tcha think?
Ki Chul catches up to her and she walks off in a daze, clutching her waist where Young’s arms were around her. He asks if someone was here, and she doesn’t answer.
When they return, Ki Chul’s minion reports the jailbreak, and that confirms Eun-soo’s suspicion that it was Young after all. Ki Chul sends his men to Woodalchi headquarters, sure he’d go there first.
Ki Won bursts in, where Choong-seok and his men are waiting in formation. Nice.
Meanwhile, Jang Bin circles the perimeter of the king’s chamber with a strange gas that drops the guards one by one.
A black-hooded Young follows in his wake, with Dragonball at his side. Love it. Can you wear that cloak all the time?
He strolls right into the king’s inner chamber, where Joo-seok greets his leader happily. Young pulls back his hood and greets the king, who laughs that a traitor sentenced to death sure does get around.
Young smiles and says he’s here to ask a question and to answer one.
Ki Chul arrives at Woodalchi headquarters, but Young isn’t there. He scowls that it can mean only one thing: he’s gone to see the king. Uh-oh.
Young sits down with Gongmin, and asks his question: Why does he fight? Gongmin: “So that I can become king.”
Young points out that he already is one, and Gongmin shows surprising self-awareness by saying those are empty words when he knows Young doesn’t see him as a king.
He then offers up his answer to Gongmin’s question of whether he’d teach the king to fight.
Young: The king does not fight. The king possesses. There are simply kings who possess one or two, and kings who possess thousands, and tens of thousands. Start by possessing me. And I will do the fighting.
Yesssssssss!
Ki Chul arrives to find all the guards down and bursts in… to find Gongmin alone. He says they tested the guards for safety reasons and have determined they need to be replaced. Hee.
Ki Chul asks if the one who put them down wasn’t Choi Young, and Gongmin acts utterly confused—the man locked up in his dungeon?
That sends Ki Chul back to his own complex, and into the dungeon, just to be sure…
And there he is, Choi Young, just sitting there back in his cell. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Was all of that just a really elaborate mind fuck? ‘Cause not what I expected, but so damn funny.
Ki Chul coos at him not to misunderstand—all of this was in an effort to possess Young as his own. Young asks if what he means by “all of this” includes the treason frame job and giving Chungjeong the vial of poison.
Ki Chul says he was just murky on which king Young was loyal to, and he was the hasty one to feed Chungjeong poison. He says the doctor also pleaded for his life, which gets him a glare in response.
He turns to go, but Young comes right up to the door.
Young: Don’t people usually say, ‘I’m living’? But that’s not true. In fact, I’m dying. Until the day I inevitably die, day… by day… So I had decided to just be mild-mannered and die quietly. But then, you kept poking me—the good, well-behaved me. To wake up, to stand up… to live.
Auuugh, I love it. The devilish little smile at the end too. The you-just-woke-a-sleeping-lion smirk.
Gongmin gets to work putting his seal on some documents, and then goes to see Princess Noguk. This time he asks for her help plainly, saying that there’s someone he seeks to have, and needs to show his courage first.
He says he needs her help to have that courage, and asks that even if he is a powerless and pathetic king, that she help him. He presents her with a box containing a hanbok…
Ki Chul and Eun-soo arrive and join the council, and the king addresses them to declare that there will be some changes around here. And then he stands with his arms out, as attendants disrobe him in front of everyone.
Oh wow. He’s taking off the Yuan robes? This is exciting. He’s putting on a proper Goryeo king’s dress, which is of course hugely symbolic.
Then he calls Princess Noguk in, and she’s dressed to match him, as a Goryeo queen. So beautiful. It’s his first major step in declaring that he will be the Goryeo king and not a Yuan puppet. Ki Chul, as expected, is not pleased.
And then the king announces that he will reward those who protected Goryeo in the years of his absence, and calls them forward…
In walks the Woodalchi in shiny new armor, led by Choi Young. Awwww yeah.
COMMENTS
Lovely to see such growth from the young king, who continues to be the most dynamic character in the story, though with today’s episode he’ll hopefully be joined by Choi Young. Already he’s miles ahead of the weak-willed dejected young man we’ve seen up until now, unwilling to trust anyone to within an inch of his life. It’s great to have Young’s faith in him be the instigation for change, which he then turns right around and repays in kind, by lighting a fire under Young’s ass and forcing him to act and make a choice to live. The king’s relationship with Young is certainly the emotional center of the show for me, and I was really missing the kind of interaction they had at the outset, and was so moved by their reunion.
This is the turn that we needed to wake Young up and get him to actively choose life—a requirement I’ve rarely encountered in my heroes, that’s for sure. I found it a really nice fit that the king has the drive to fight but doesn’t know how, while Young knows how to win any fight, but had lost the will to do so. I just love that they complete each other in that way, and that Young returns to being the king’s warrior and teacher.
The fact that it’s Ki Chul’s convoluted scheme to possess him that fires him up and makes him want to wake up and fight back is just poetic gravy. How often do you have a hero thanking the villain for making him so angry that he could no longer be a good boy and just die? I can’t wait to see Young’s transformation, alongside the king’s. Already by the last scene, we see a massive shift in both characters as a result of their reunion, and for once I felt that the moment was delivered to proper effect.
I really like this idea of having and wanting people’s hearts, because it can extend so many ways, and the concept is as elusive as the process by which you gain someone’s heart, as Eun-soo astutely points out. Young gives his heart to Gongmin, which makes Gongmin want to deserve his heart, leading him to that gesture of putting on the Goryeo robes before the court. But of course he needn’t do that to possess Young, because he gave his allegiance freely, and there is no need to earn someone’s heart when it’s yours to begin with.
On the flipside, Ki Chul demands hearts like they’re for sale, but Eun-soo points out it doesn’t work that way, and he needs to earn them, putting him on the hook to keep him obsessed with the game. But she tells him almost the same thing, backwards: that no matter how hard he tries to force it, there is no way to will someone to give their heart over. Then it’s meaningless and the very process makes you lose the thing you wanted. They’re slippery little buggers that way. I like that she frames it the way we’d talk about earning someone’s heart romantically, though she doesn’t think that’s what he means. It’s just her characteristic way of talking.
But it works on the same principle, which is what she’s getting at. It’s just hilarious that he doesn’t understand what she’s saying: There is no having of me. Because my heart is mine, and I make my own choices. It extends to his confusion about people electing their own leader. I just really like how clever that is, that the one thing the villain wants to possess is something he can never have, which is why he covets it so desperately, and on and on in an endless loop. Now I sort of understand his insatiable hunger—because it’s a hunger for something that can never be satiated. Sucks to be you.
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51 LoriLou
September 5, 2012 at 6:03 AM
"Ki Chul lights up at the spoils of his victory: Choi Young’s sword, the god-sword handed down from his Jeokwoldae leader. I’m hoping if it’s supernatural that it works like a harry potter wand and rejects you or makes you stab your foot a bunch of times."
BWAHAHAHA!! This is why I read the re-caps, this kinda commenting right here.
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Stardust
September 5, 2012 at 6:46 AM
Oh yeaaah that line made me LOL too... So many awesome moments in this ep!! =D
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Kappy
September 5, 2012 at 9:57 AM
Me too, me too!
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52 Stardust
September 5, 2012 at 6:45 AM
Thanks so much Girlfriday!! =D Finally this drama is starting to look promising... it was building up so slowly, I was nodding off a little...
The ending is no cliff hanger, but its OH SO SATISFYING to see everything coming together at last... I am following this show not so much for Choi Young and Eun Soo but more for the King and Queen... every scene is so delicious... They are stealing the spotlight here!! AAAAAH ...
Anws its Wednesday!! WOOHOOO GAKSITAAAAAAL JOOO WOOOON and ARAAAAANG.... ( * o* )
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53 MO Rozie
September 5, 2012 at 7:12 AM
Love the story even more and cant wait for nxt week. Thanx for the recaps. U r just wonderful
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54 rio
September 5, 2012 at 9:17 AM
can someone please explain to me the whole dealio with king gongmin and king chungjeong....I'm so confused with that part. And who actually is kichul...
I know after 8 eps I should probably know this but my brain won't comprehend T T
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momosan
September 5, 2012 at 1:33 PM
King Chungjeong is King Gongmin's nephew. His brother died (remember the guy who killed Young's mentor back in an earlier episode - that's the brother), his nephew became king, he was back in Yuan - Ki Chul is the brother of the Yuan Empress. He and his family have a great deal of power. Essentially they deposed King Chungjeong and put King Gongmin on the throne.
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55 Krish
September 5, 2012 at 10:01 AM
That moment when Gongnim took off Yuan clothing up until the entrance of Woodalchi led by Choi Young = MAJOR GOOSEBUMPS.
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:57 PM
I like the king new clothes. His hat makes him looks taller. :)
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56 nana
September 5, 2012 at 10:10 AM
thanks for the recap
O.0 she wears a watch!!!
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:52 PM
I find it funny that she refuses to remove her watch. I'm surprise no one ask her for the time yet. :)
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57 grace, the one from Jersey, USA
September 5, 2012 at 11:29 AM
So as I posted at the end of the Episode
#7 recap, the ending of Episode #8 was
awesome!!! But not having English subs
(and not being Korean) I had no clue that
the fireworks-meaning ending of #8 was
the fact that the king's bright yellow robe
was "a Chinese fashion statement," and
the black robe that replaced it, was not.
Thanks so much, girlfriday, for letting me
know the significance of this scene.
I'm thinking a lot about that embossed
"Made in Korea" stamp that's on the
rusty medical instruments, once owned
by the legendary Hwata.......This could
proove to be a very significant point.
And I wonder if in the remaining 16
episodes, Eun-soo and Choi Young will
travel back (?) forward (?) to 2012 Seoul,
to return with a textbook gift for the doctor:
"Introduction to Pharmacy 101," and a
gift for the king: "The History of Korea."
And additional reasons why I love this show?
No pink pants, or pink lip gloss, on Lee Min-ho. :)
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grace, the one from Jersey, USA
September 5, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Sorry.........
Somehow my post was "submitted"
before I got rid of the double spacing. :(
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM
I kind of miss the pink pant though. ;)
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grace, the one from Jersey, USA
September 6, 2012 at 1:30 PM
OK, OK, maybe the king will give LMH a
snappy pair of pink pants (with dragons
embroidered on it) as a reward for his
loyalty....then you'll be happy. :)
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58 Village Mrembo
September 5, 2012 at 11:31 AM
i wonder if i can jump from Faith to Gaksital (to Arang) in the span of a few hours...aigoo my BP!
since its a fusion sageuk can we at some point get like a 'We will rock u' themed march by the Wooldachis storming into Mr Bad Guy's palace? am cheesy like that ; )
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59 Laura
September 5, 2012 at 11:50 AM
I will be so shallow for a minute, but did you see that new hairstyle of Young in the 9th ep. trailer? Nice. He looks more alive now.
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dustdevil
September 5, 2012 at 2:01 PM
I noticed that too! So excited to see more of his eyes.
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60 lt
September 5, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Can someone tell me how Young got out of prison the second time without the knowledge of Ki Chul?
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Misha
September 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM
He only went out once.
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61 tweetie
September 5, 2012 at 1:34 PM
R.I.P Jerry (you died for a good cause). I think Faith is getting better, definitely leaving me wanting the next episode, Thanks for the recap GF!!
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62 sumee
September 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM
again a great episode..things are moving at a pace now..finally we have more depth in the story ..And can anyone pls tell me what does a precap of ep -9 say esp the converse between the white haired boy & the Eun soo !
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63 Dix
September 5, 2012 at 4:03 PM
How did Choi Young get released? Ki Chul doesn't look like the type that will release him just like that.
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Duncerblur
September 5, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Maybe he found another rat (Ben).
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Kappy
September 5, 2012 at 4:35 PM
Okay, I'll be singing that song for the next few days. ;)
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LoveIt
September 5, 2012 at 4:30 PM
Ki Chul didn't release him. The king released him. What Young did was a crime again the king, and the king is who makes the life or death decision. When the king changed clothes and CY walked in, it signified that the king was no longer following anyone's (read Ki Chul) orders. He did what he wanted to do with CY, and showed who was boss, after all he was the kings prisoner not KC's.
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64 Duncerblur
September 5, 2012 at 4:19 PM
This episode was truly daebak. I was fist pumping & whooping at the end.
And can I say how much I wept at that poor lil boy's sacrifice ... It was poignant that a 12-year-old knew more about being a king and sacrifice than Gong Min. But what a way to announce that the schooling is about to start with that fantastic scene of changing the imperial garments. Gong Min ftw!
PS. Am I strange to be oddly fixated on Ki Chul's bizarre hairdos? Did they hire Andre to do hair now?
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Ennayra
September 11, 2012 at 7:29 PM
Lol. You're not the only one. Did you notice that in the earlier episodes, every time he's in a scene, he's taking a bath? I think he didn't bathe once this episode-that's how you know things are picking up, lol.
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65 cacha
September 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM
WHEN will the love lines and even our long awaited and long anticipated KISSES will be shown? I'm dying here OMG... CY and ES.. King and Queen... when?????????
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:36 PM
King and Queen should just get together since they are married. ES and CY may take a while. :)
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66 Abbie
September 5, 2012 at 5:30 PM
This was a seriously EPIC ending. This is the first time I've felt so effectively drawn to this drama. I had leanings towards it and a fondness for it, but now I am really into it completely. To think it took 4 weeks for me to get hooked completely. I am so glad Gongmin and Young have finally come together to fight against the bad guys. SO. AWESOME.
Also, I really enjoyed Eun-soo's and Ki-chul's scenes together. There's just something about them together that I find hilarious. She's got such a bubbly personality and he's all dire most of the time. It's hilarious!
I cannot wait for next week!
Thanks for the recap, Girlfriday!
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:26 PM
Never thought I'd ever say this, but ES and KC together was hilarious to see. She's sort of yanking his chain, isn't she?
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67 Mar
September 5, 2012 at 6:00 PM
WIN. This episode was one big hell of spike the damn ball in the end zone win. This epi did a nice job of pulling the major players of Team GOryeo together. I'd like to do some crit analysis here but class readings and some sleep at some point are calling me.
Hopefully now we will see the relationships start to bloom. Hey, the ice melted, so spring is in the air, right?
I still think the Queen should just grab the King by the ears and kiss the crap out of him.
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68 Kim Yoonmi
September 5, 2012 at 6:04 PM
No one said poor mousey? What did it ever do wrong? Will it also see Heaven? Maybe it was reborn as that monk...
I'll say it then, poor mousey, you didn't do anything wrong.
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kikilala
September 5, 2012 at 6:59 PM
okay.. your comment made me LOLing in the middle of night..
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:24 PM
First the police shield and now the mouse. May they both rest in peace.
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Kiara
September 5, 2012 at 9:37 PM
LOL I'm guessing the aspirin bottle will be next?.
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Misha
September 5, 2012 at 10:53 PM
THE BAG! OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Kappy
September 5, 2012 at 11:13 PM
Oh no, not the bag! She hangs on to that thing as if her life depended on it. It would be sorely missed.
Myoo
September 7, 2012 at 4:44 PM
NOT that pretty blue leather chic bag!!!!!!
Duncerblur
September 6, 2012 at 4:15 AM
Worry not. Ben & Jerry will be reincarnated into shaggy haired ice cream makers who will make millions and laugh to the bank.
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Kappy
September 5, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Smiling.. Yes, that did cross my mind, but I decided he/she sacrificed his/her life for the greater cause.
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69 Hunni
September 5, 2012 at 7:06 PM
When the king was dressing at the end I was SO proud! Then when Choi Young and the rest of the Wudalchi epically walk in all badass i could only think "AWWW YEAH BITCHES!"
PS.
I'm kind of liking the firestarter chick..she's twisted but idk maybe she's not a total bitch.
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70 RealKDramaaddict
September 5, 2012 at 7:14 PM
So many things happened in this episode. Young gives himself permission to live, which thaws his frozen essence. Spring brings hope into that secret place of his. Did it start with a simple yellow flower he kept with drugs?
King finds his true colors. Queen and King finally unite, albeit in clothing trend. ES gets a new BBF in H, girl power. Burn or heal, curse or posture, but never show your weakness to men.
I like the fact that in Faith the doctor does not have to perform an extremely difficult surgery in every episode. Nothing is invented, except for poorly executed cocktails, which the doctor finishes herself.
LMH finally started to manifest his acting powers. I am glad I kept watching this drama.
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LoveIt
September 5, 2012 at 7:57 PM
LMH was acting all along. He was playing a warrior that asleep (he would sleep for days at a time, and when he was awake he was barely awoke), frozen (as illustrated by his dreams), not caring about anything (which is why he didn't care if he lived or died), and lazy (as explained by the young King).
Let's check out what was released about his character at the beginning of the show:
"29 years old. Escort of the King. He travelled 660 years to bring back "Seoul Woman" Eun Soo. A Goryeo warrior. The leader of the King's escorts and bodyguards. He has no desire for money or women. He has no affection for the world. His hobby is sleeping. HIs skill is sleeping long. Since he doesn't have a single thread of affection for the world, he is not afraid of dying. Aperson who is not afraid of dying, does not strategize. So instead of forming strategies, he faces things head on.
If he succeeds doing this, then good. But if he dies? Oh well..."
Is this not what he has been giving this whole entire time?
Instead everyone thought he should have been playing the role this way and that way. He was doing exactly what he was supposed to do. It is not an easy thing to portray though.
The funny thing is, everything that a lot of people were complaining about when it came to his portrayal, is exactly what he was supposed to be doing. He is so wooden, his acting is so flat, he is sooo boring. I can't stop laughing, because that is exactly what he was supposed to portray.
LMH wasn't the one that was missing the mark. It was the audience. lol
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Mar
September 5, 2012 at 8:27 PM
I got the subtle too. Love it.
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RealKDramaaddict
September 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Nothing was missing. The dynamics of the last two episodes changed and it was a pleasure to watch. LMH is showing furious, deep emotions, tenderness, etc. I am glad I waited for the sleeper to wake up.
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LoveIt
September 6, 2012 at 7:06 PM
Gotcha
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Myoo
September 7, 2012 at 4:46 PM
OMG you amazed me.. I second you in a heart beat....
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jl
December 3, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Spot on, LoveIt! Couldn't have said it better. LMH nailed it.
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71 katy
September 5, 2012 at 8:02 PM
Good drama ,
For me the plastic surgeon character is supposed to be
funny , hilarious but not stupid , immature like this .She
should be smart calm because she is a doctor who know
to deal with medical conditions properly and she is some one
from future , she would know how history went .
She doesn't need to act cute , immature like this .
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SH
September 5, 2012 at 8:52 PM
*Deep Sighs* It's comment like this that is really bothering me. It adds nothing constructive to the discussion, other than sounding whiny.
First, she's too old and doesn't have chemistry with LMH. Then, he's too static and boring. Then this drama is boring, zzzzzz.... Then editing and directing suck. Then this show is so slow. Repeat these kinds of comments multiple times in every comments recap, it really gets on my nerves. Ok, I get it, you don't like this or that, you can always scroll away and not comment. Or if you have something constructive to write, then do so in a nice way. The directing is bad, tell us how and why. Acting is static, give us examples.
End rant. Not really a direct criticism at your comment, but just a general observation. Yes, I also realize there's another side of the argument, some commenters comparing this show to others (I did that once in an early episode and regretted it), which I realize is not necessary either. Let's enjoy the show with flaws and all.
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Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:20 PM
Bravo!
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Misha
September 5, 2012 at 10:56 PM
We really need likes in the comments. +1 :D
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Duncerblur
September 6, 2012 at 4:18 AM
Likes +2. I personally know a few plastic surgeons & a couple are female & let me just say some of them can be childish & immature ... lol.
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Kiara
September 6, 2012 at 9:47 AM
But this is no fan-club site for Faith. Everyone is free to express their opinions ..good or bad. I usualy skip posts that I dont like and not take people's opinions as fact.
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SH
September 6, 2012 at 9:59 AM
I know people can criticize. Hence I said, "Or if you have something constructive to write, then do so in a nice way. The directing is bad, tell us how and why. Acting is static, give us examples."
Repeating the same line over and over again without any backup evidence is not helping. Believe me I've ignored some comments I don't agree with. We're in Ep. 8 now, so a reader like me can only take "she's too old, immature, stupid and whiny" comments or something similar to a certain limit.
To counter your point, this also not a hate-club site for Faith, so I'm free to express my disagreement.
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LoveIt
September 6, 2012 at 10:49 AM
@SH I totally agree with you. I find that some people do come here ONLY to display their dislike of the show. It's as if they want to persuade other people to dislike it too.
She is a doctor, a woman, and so many other things. I don't understand how people can think that ALL doctors should be serious at all times. These people have personalities. Are people forgetting that she was a plastic surgeon?
I also enjoy that this show puts on full display how modern day doctors have become so dependent on pharmaceuticals and gadgets. They don't even know how to make their own meds, and in many cases without them (pharmaceuticals and gadgets") they are nothing.
Kiara
September 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM
Yes you are free to express your disagreement, same goes for the whiners and complainers and those whinning about the whiners lol.
SH
September 6, 2012 at 3:35 PM
@Kiara: Um...we're not going to agree on anything much w.r.t. quality of comments. But there's a basic agreement that we both share - everyone is free to express their disagreements including those who whine about people complaining about original whiners lol ;)
Kiara
September 6, 2012 at 4:33 PM
LOL <3.
annoyinghuman
November 3, 2012 at 11:01 AM
You are insulting too much, why don't you relax, it is just a drama, Since you are so good judging the editing and directing, why don't you be a director then?
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72 Maymay
September 5, 2012 at 9:19 PM
The poor mouse! Why does it have to die? :(
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73 diddy47
September 5, 2012 at 10:04 PM
why would anyone serve a king like this guy, let him wallow in his shamelessness and incompetence, whilst the evil guy takes over. It would be quite absurd to follow this guy.
he would ruin a country in a matter of weeks if not days
someone please say this depiction of the king does not have any historical accuracy
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AnnaCC
September 6, 2012 at 1:57 AM
The King is young and knows he's surrounded by people who would like nothing better than to see him fail or worst, die! He has obviously troubles trusting the people aroung him, and who wouldn't?
Everyone needs a friend, at least one person who believes in him and trusts him...the King is flawed and insecure but that's what is so fascinating to see...him growing up from man to KING!
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Saa
September 6, 2012 at 7:33 AM
King Gongmin is ashamed because he is powerless, and he's insecure because everyone thinks that the Goryeo king is simply a Yuan puppet whom no one faithfully supports. However, he is NOT incompetent and would not ruin his country.
The reason people would want to serve King Gongmin is because he cares for his nation and the people of his nation, whereas the evil guy will only use and abuse whichever country and people who are so unfortunate as to be ruled by said evil guy. Seriously, King Gongmin over evil dude any day, week, month, and year.
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74 roseltv
September 6, 2012 at 1:14 AM
I'm glad I didn't give up on Faith. If the rest of the series is going to be as good as these 2 episodes, Faith is definitely going up my book in favorite historical drama. I agree that the relationship of the King and the Warrior is just so...touching in so many levels. Can't wait for more and for once, I won't ask for more romance.
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75 Pinkmicrophone
September 6, 2012 at 1:38 AM
All shows have flaws in one way or another. And it'll take a genius writer/director/actors to come up with one to match everyone's varied taste. So just enjoy it...
Can't wait for the Queen to finally confess to Gongmin. It was truly epic when he changed his robes and barked at the official who tried to get a word in. Am totally looking forward to CY's transformation.
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76 Saa
September 6, 2012 at 7:26 AM
When Choi Young taught Gongmin that kings don't fight but possess people, and that he will be the first one Gongmin can possess to fight for him? *TEARS IN EYES*
When Gongmin took off the Yuan attire to put on the Goryeo attire in front of everyone and was joined by his queen in A MATCHING GORYEO ATTIRE!?!?! *CRYINGGGGG*
When Woo Dal Chi walked / strutted in? *FIST PUMP*
But um, can we stop having Eun Soo and Mr. Evil Mustache "dating" scenes? I was squirming in disgust throughout. >___>"""";;;;;
And also, KING GONGMIN, WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT YOUR QUEEN IS IN LUVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV WITH YOU ALREADY AND IS THE MOST LOYAL AND CARING AND CONCERNED TOWARDS YOU. Seriously. She would do more than wearing a Goryeo outfit and risk pissing off the Yuans if it would help you. She'd probably like go drink five million gallons of that poison the young former king drank, just for YOU.
And...preview...Choi Young gets uglier hair.... ;__________;
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Krish
September 6, 2012 at 9:03 AM
I don't mind the ugly warrior hair. It's only through his roles like this that LMH can look like shit because he's just too pretty in real life. Heee.
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Kdramas
September 6, 2012 at 9:38 AM
Ian actually glad to see him with hair out of his face.
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wanne
September 7, 2012 at 6:09 AM
I think he looks hot with the new hair ^^
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Audrey
September 7, 2012 at 9:26 PM
love your comment about the king and queen.
I know, the queen could die for him, well she almost did that when her neck got slashed....he will realize it sooner or later that she loves him deeply.
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77 madman999
September 6, 2012 at 9:40 AM
i am sure somebody mentioned this but wtf happened to the writing? did i miss something when i dozed off?
how did the King interrogate Choi Young when he and the doctor are supposed to be on Kangwha Island or traveling from there? While I get that I might have missed that they all may have traveled to the capital, there is a scene where Gi Cheol examines the body of the dead former king which could not have moved from the island.
just seems like these guys are transporting through time and space!
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SH
September 6, 2012 at 9:47 AM
Yeah, I think you missed something when you dozed off. They traveled back to the capital after CY surrendered. Remember CY was put in a cage with all those guards pointing swords at him. Another clue, ES wanted to go on a "date" with KC at the capital market. All of them are now at their respective bases.
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Kdramas
September 6, 2012 at 10:01 AM
Your reply is hilarious. Interesting what some people complain about eh?
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madman999
September 7, 2012 at 12:06 PM
thanks for clarifying, i accepted that they were all in the capitol as soon as the King walked to the cell and had his talk with Choi Young. i thought they were much further away since they started from a remote island the ex King was exiled to. I mean in an earlier episode, they made it sound like it was too far away to send a messenger quickly to stop the plan to not harm the Doctor. Then I guessed they would be moving slowly with Choi Young in a cart. I also was figuring that they stopped off someplace else like a place where GiCheol has power(his castle as opposed to the capitol?) because the doctor is still a prisoner. okay, maybe the capitol is alot bigger than they I have seen.
Plus, I just have this feeling that surely all this travel back and forth has to have taken more than 7 days(the original period for the bet between the King and Gi Cheol).
other than that, I have been enjoying this drama. originally, i thought this was going to be some grand/epic/sweeping drama with dire implications all around but I actually like the funny bits provided by the Doctor and GiCheol.
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SH
September 6, 2012 at 12:32 PM
Oh I forgot to add, the scene where KC examined that boy king's body happened before they traveled back to the capital. GF's recap above explains this also. So nope, no time and space travel in this episode :D
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rafflesia
September 6, 2012 at 10:20 PM
You got some spine (like the queen). i love your responds.
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78 Itoshi
September 6, 2012 at 9:57 AM
"There’s always something so moving about the giant warrior who bows before little kings with such conviction."
Yes, this dynamic between a king and his general since the days of old, who is willing to go to war and win everything for his king has always perplexed me. Especially when the king is as powerless as Gongmin and as powerful as Choe Young. With a flip of Choe Young's hair (ok, jk) he could order his Woodalchi to dethrone Gongmin and really make himself king. But instead he subordinates to a lesser man, it fascinates me to no end that this paradox even existed in real life, proven by history. I think people of the days of yore were very very loyal and this amazed me to no end. What is it with kingship that propels them so?
I was born and is living in a country that has kings still,and though this matter is very close to me, i am just as disconnected with the concept of monarchy, and honestly i would be fine with or without them. But whenever i look or watch history of Kings and Their Men, I can't help but feel it is very beautiful, an enigma to behold. A connection that runs deep, a loyalty so unshakeable it's like a spell, the general's Raison d'Ăªtre for a man on the throne, and the king's noblesse oblige for his people.
I hope this aspect of the story would remain strong in this drama! I'm becoming more Faith-ful every day!
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Itoshi
September 6, 2012 at 10:28 AM
I forgot to fan-girling!
Am I the only one who feels that the scene when CY saved ES from falling into a ditch and the he disappears, SO DEM ROMANTIC!?!? And also before, when he watches her from afar??
Am i turning into a stalker? :P
And i am excitedly thrilled when Gongmin asks only Noguk, and only her, to wears the Goryeo's royal garbs with him! Oh silly king just wanna have a couple matching outfits <3<3<3
Oh and Ryu Deok Hwan, Ryu Deok Hwan, Ryu Deok Hwan *sigh*
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wanne
September 7, 2012 at 5:58 AM
You are not the only one. I could watch that scene over and over. Though I must say, does CY has superpower to disappear so fast LOL. But what makes that scene moving and romantic for me is, CY was hurt by ES thinking she was disgusted by him, they was separated and was deeply missing each other. So, his longing look towards her, and when he caught her from falling and stayed in that position like he wanted to hold her longer, that really kills me! I'm seriously dying for Episode 9 to come now!
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SH
September 7, 2012 at 6:20 AM
Did you see LMH's new hair in the preview? It might take me a while to get used to it. It makes his face look bigger
*blasphemy* :P
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SH
September 7, 2012 at 6:48 AM
What is it with kingship that propels them so?
My Theory:
In ancient China, the power of kingship lies in a belief that the king has the "mandate of heaven" - he is the only and ultimate judge of society and people. His subjects believe he inherits this power from heaven. If you think about it, in historical Eastern society, the notion of heaven and hell is deeply entrenched in people's consciousness, so maybe this is why the mass submit their will to the king. In short, the concept legitimizes his absolute authority.
This "mandate of heaven" concept gradually disappears during and after the age of European Enlightenment, where people begin to question theological reasoning and start using rationality as a way of viewing their society and human nature.
You can read more on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Heaven
I just find it interesting. Not sure if it answers you question though :)
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Itoshi
September 8, 2012 at 12:58 AM
SH, thank you for that info. :)
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79 LoveIt
September 6, 2012 at 12:17 PM
That scene where Daemon sneaks into where the other Woodalchi were being held captive. After he updates them on what has happened and everyone is shocked that CY was captured. One of the guys tells the Second in Charge that they should break down the door and get out. Doesn't he look exactly like the 2nd in charge? They must be twins are at the very least brothers.
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80 grace, the one from Jersey, USA
September 6, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Did anybody notice the similarity?
KING: bland, somewhat pathetic, nobody
expects leadership, let alone greatness.
SUBJECT: brave, fearless, loyal unto death.
Yes.......I'm talking about H. M. George VI of
England, and his Prime Minister, Winston Churchill.
The new king had no pizazz after his charming
brother (Edward VIII) abdicated, and Churchill
was a washed-up politician. Yet they both lead
Great Britain through "the darkest hours" and
became beloved figures; giants of history.
"Faith:" GO GET 'EM, BOYS! :) :)
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81 Lula
September 6, 2012 at 10:22 PM
This is by far my fave episode! I love the last scene when they all came in LMH look sooo hot. Quick question: can anyone tell me the gist of the future episode? I know it's a bunch of different scenes but CY looked like he had said some significant stuff and it kills me to have to wait till next week as Viki does not translate that part! Thank in advance!
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LoveIt
September 7, 2012 at 6:23 AM
Lady Choi to Choi Young: Why are you loyal to the King all of a sudden?
Choi Young to Lady Choi: Just Because
NEXT SCENE-----------------------
Eun Soo to Gi Cheol: There are people blocking me whenever I try to go out.
Gi Cheol to Eun Soo: Where do you want to go?
Eun Soo to Gi Cheol: Can I go out?
Gi Cheol to Eun Soo: No
NEXT SCENE----------------------
Choi Young to warrior: If Eun Soo is in danger just lift her up and run away. Do not try to fight him
Warrior to Choi Young: Can I really lift her up? (all giddy, kinda blushing)
*Choi young hits him in the head* (so cute haha)
NEXT SCENE-----------------------
Gi Cheol to Hwa Soo In: The written words of heaven... the world of the heavens... they really exist
Hwa Soo In to Gi Cheol: Is that why you made her stay with Eum Ja? To see what's real?
Gi Cheol to Hwa Soo In: *shouts* I said its real!
NEXT SCENE-----------------------
Silver guy to Eun Soo: I received orders to go kill him tonight
Eun Soo to Silver guy: Choi Young?
Silver guy to Eun Soo: Should I kill him or not?
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Kappy
September 7, 2012 at 12:11 PM
@LoveIt - Thank you for posting this!
Anxiously awaiting next epi...
I would also like to thank whoever it was that made it so we get 2 episodes a week. I don't know how long that has been the rule in South Korea, but I am so grateful!
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Lula
September 7, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Aaack! Thank u sooo much for this! Cant wait for the next epi! You're awesome!
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LoveIt
September 8, 2012 at 1:49 PM
@Lula @Kappy y'all are welcome.
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82 shel
September 6, 2012 at 10:47 PM
This little king is my fave king since Puppy-Chona!
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83 wanne
September 7, 2012 at 5:30 AM
Thanks Girlfriday for the recap.
I had huge expectation for this drama before it aired because of the writer and director combo behind it who have been amazing with their past works. However, I also had my doubts thinking that there must be reasons why this one was delayed for so long and I was skeptical about KHS and her pairing with LMH too. So that probably brought down my expectation a bit, and why I think I'm able to get over the flaws now and appreciate the drama for what its good at.
Its still regretful when I think about what Faith could have been with better directing, production etc but with each episode, I'm definitely loving it more and more and now, I really can't wait for Monday to come.
What this drama does so well for me is the satisfaction in the characters growth and relationship as well as the plot development.
Not just the narrative of the king and his warrior works for me, I also like some other characters and relationships for example:
- The OTP. I love both CY and ES and I like how the writer develops their relationship slowly but steadily. I enjoy their interaction together, and I find the growth of their rapport moving and satisfying. I enjoy seeing them missing each other now and the stalking LOL. They were separated when their conflict is at its peak, regarding CY killing people and CY thinking he lost her trust now. I really can't wait for their reunion which I'm sure will come next week. So excited!
- I also love the relationship between the King and the Queen, the warriors and their leader (they love their leader so much, dare I say more than the King), sismance between ES and the Queen (Hope there will more to come), ES and her HSI unni. I'm interested to know more about HSI. She said she would have killed KC if she knew how and she seems interested in CY.
Really looking forward to next episodes!
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84 ZOBear
September 9, 2012 at 10:41 PM
I got my friend hooked on this drama and at the last scene when the warriors walked in, he shouted.."HELL YES! LET THE ASS KICKING BEGIN!" never letting him watch with me again lol.
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85 sonia
September 14, 2012 at 6:07 AM
i just finish reading the recap. thanks a lot!! :)
I think young's father is from future, i think that's why the medical instrument was in the past... :) hope its a happy ending. :)
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86 sancie
September 15, 2012 at 2:43 PM
Does anyone know what the name of the song playing at the end as the Woodalchi march in is? Thanks in advance!
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87 Jenn
September 21, 2012 at 10:18 PM
thanks for all the amazing recaps. You gals are the absolute best!!
Are you aware though that the links for Faith's recaps haven't been updated on the main recap page? Recap page only lists up to episode 8, but I see from google that you've done as many as 12? Just thought you'd want to know, in case you weren't aware
But seriously though, thank you so much. This site is amazing.
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