Faith: Episode 12
by girlfriday
A much more exciting episode, with a face-off and big step forward for our couple. The good guys even get a step ahead with a scheme that proves they’re not just sitting ducks, and that Aunt and Young are really the brains of this operation. Mostly there’s a lot of funny and even a little romance, which keeps me happy.
EPISODE 12 RECAP
Ki Chul gets word that Choi Young is on his way here. So much for surprise sneak attack. Eum-ja is on high alert, but it’s the two Suribang boys who show up at the compound, and give him the runaround before disappearing. Hm, a diversion?
Ki Chul mulls it over and decides triumphantly that he knows why Young is coming – to steal the diary. Hwasuin asks Eum-ja if the one boy with the pretty eyes was here, and that gets a scowl out of him.
She figures they should go give Ki Chul the audience he needs (That pretty much sums up his entire character, doesn’t it?) and they join him as he fawns over how important the diary must be.
But the thing he trips up on is how simple and low-rent it is for Young to sneak in and steal the diary while Ki Chul is supposed to be away on a trip. He thinks it not a fun enough game and clearly Young is a better opponent than that.
His conclusion? Young must be sending him a message, to bring the diary himself and hand it over, or else he gets robbed.
Young sets up another of his Suribang friends to wait outside, and deliver “something” to “someone,” in case “something happens to me.” This is the entirety of your contingency plan?
Meanwhile Eun-soo rides as fast as she can. Apparently she rides so hard that the hat gets knocked off her head and her hair falls around her like a shampoo commercial, because that’s not ridiculous at all. Pffft, directing fail.
Young enters the compound, which is eerily empty. He sits and waits. Ki Chul comes out flanked by his guards, who come charging at Young.
I love that he takes the first one out by flinging his sword straight into a man like it’s a tiny dagger, and then running up to yank it out. He slices through them quickly. But then, behind him, they disappear into puffs of vapor. What? Do these guys get made in a jar too?
Young’s sword drips with blood. Ki Chul now stands alone, hands behind his back. Young leaps into the air, sword above his head, and Ki Chul pulls out his sword. He slices Young twice, in the arm and the chest.
Oof, Ki Chul gets the upper hand way too fast for my liking. Young dodges a few strikes, but before he knows it, Ki Chul’s sword is at his throat. He points it down at Young’s shoulder, forcing him to his knees.
But then Young stands back up anyway, and tries to stab. Ki Chul whirls him around with the sword still at his throat, like they’re backhugging, but in a murderous way. And that’s when Young STABS HIMSELF, going clean through to stab Ki Chul too. Aaaaack!
And then… he opens his eyes? The frak? Was he imagining all this? UGH.
Goddamnit, he’s still sitting in the same spot, having imagined the whole thing. I didn’t think I’d be so annoyed that you’re not stabbed right now, but I am.
Eun-soo finds Dae-man and demands to know where his leader is. Dae-man stutters that they’re not supposed to follow, so Eun-soo runs off to find him alone.
Ki Chul shows up to meet Young all alone. He asks where the trap is, and Young says setting a trap means you’re not really prepared to die… and Ki Chul is too powerful an opponent to face with anything less than his life on the line.
He asks if Ki Chul brought the diary. He did. Young asks if he really intends to kill anyone who shows support for the king, and Ki Chul confirms it. Young: “Then what I suspected about you is true. That with you gone, the world would be a slightly better place.”
With that, he charges, and they fight.
Ki Chul slices Young in the arm. And then through the midsection. Aaagh, this is happening exactly like it did in his imagination! Okay, I take it back. I won’t be annoyed. Just don’t do the double skewering thing!
Ki Chul slices the bandana off the hilt of Young’s sword, and it falls to the ground. He struggles but gathers up his strength and attacks. He ends up in the same position as his imaginary one… and doesn’t stab himself to get to Ki Chul. Oh phew.
The thought of what this scene could look like if directed better makes me want to cry.
He whirls around and they fire up their ki powers. Ki Chul just chuckles. They separate for a moment and get ready to charge again, when Eun-soo suddenly runs in between them and yells at everybody to stop.
She stands there with a dagger to her throat, threatening to die if they don’t quit it. Did everyone have Suicide Kool-Aid with their breakfast this morning?
Ki Chul asks her to answer a question then: When does he die? She hesitates, and he roars at her that he needs to have a reason to let her live. She says four years, maybe five. He asks by whose hand.
“Does the king remain after I die?” She says yes. “Then the one who kills me is the king. Did you ask what I’m doing? I’m trying to test heaven’s history, to see if I can change it.” OH. He says that if he can, he and the doc will have some words, so she should stay alive till then. And with that, he turns to go.
That leaves Young to yell at her for risking her life, and Eun-soo to yell back at him that he’s the one who started it. Eun-soo: “You’re the one who’s trying to die! You said you’d lose! If you fight and die, is that the end? How can you only think of yourself?!”
Omo, is that a confession? She says he’s doing this for her, so that means if he dies, it’s because of her. “You know what it feels like to be the one left behind!” He shoots her a look of surprise.
She wraps his bloody hand and tells him not to move the one that’s frozen blue from Ki Chul’s energy. She reaches for it but he pulls it away, and she pulls it close anyway. She covers his hand in hers and starts to blow on it to warm it.
The closeness startles him, and he just watches her intently for a moment. She’s hunched over his hand, and suddenly he reaches out to sweep the hair out of her face. So you can look at her?
She inches back at first, but he tucks the hair behind her ear. And just as he does, a tear falls and she begins to cry.
He says that it was the only plan he could think of – to just try it, and fail if he fails, because that’s just always how he’s lived his life. He glances over at her again, “I won’t risk my life that easily anymore. Ever again. So… don’t cry.” Awwwww.
Ki Chul’s underlings are up in arms that he’s used his ki, which he clearly shouldn’t be doing. Oh, interesting. Is this what’s killing him? He suddenly looks very different – haggard, thin, powerless.
They argue that he should’ve taken that Woodalchi out without his powers, but then wonder if Young was so strong that it wasn’t possible. But all Ki Chul can do even now is obsess over Eun-soo’s words that the nation of Yuan would collapse and that he’d die.
He growls that there’s no such thing as a history that can’t be changed, and if the king is the one to kill him, he’ll just replace the king, and if Yuan won’t last, he’ll replace the country with another. “If the heavens have decided it, then I will replace the heavens.” Chills.
Young and Eun-soo walk through the palace, followed by a giddy Dae-man and Dol-bae. I love that they’re just walking and talking, but the peepers make it seem like they’re doing something so illicit. Young hilariously stops every five seconds to shoo them away.
Eun-soo decides that she won’t run away anymore, which makes Young smile. She figures that just leaves fighting Ki Chul. He wonders why she can’t just do neither and sit still, but she says that’s not in her nature, “I can’t do that – just breathe and do nothing.” Which is why you’re great.
She asks if he doesn’t want to be her partner. She says her goal is to get her diary back, and his goal is the protect the king from Ki Chul. Ki Chul won’t just hand that thing over, but if the king becomes strong enough, he could demand it from him.
She decides they’ll have to be partners, and tries to get him to say the word in English. “Partner. Aren’t you going to learn heaven-speak at all? It’s not even that hard to pronounce.” He refuses to say the word, but does smile when she tells him that it means they fight on the same side.
I love that she’s taken to ordering him around with the catchall: “I saved your life, but you can’t do this one thing for me?” She tells him that if they’re going to be partners, there are some rules.
They have to tell each other everything, and they protect each other. That last part does not compute for him. “Each other?” She says they protect each other, which means one person can’t go running off to fight without telling the other person.
He agrees with the caveat that she do the same – no running off anywhere without telling him. Hee. So they’re basically both like, don’t do anything without me knowing.
She sticks out her hand for a shake, and he looks at it skeptically. Didn’t she say that was for hellos and goodbyes? She says it’s also for times like this, and when he fidgets, she just grabs his hand and forces the shake.
He looks over and sees the boys giggling from behind the bushes. She’s still madly shaking his hand, and he leans in to ask, “Didn’t you say we would protect each other? Then can you maybe start with protecting my dignity?” Ha. They let go just as Aunt walks up. Ha, did everyone see them holding hands?
They go to see the king and queen, and when Eun-soo starts to tell them about her night, Young grabs her hand to stop her from giving them any details beyond her leaving and Young stopping her.
Young says that the veiled assassins are in town and asks if Eun-soo can remain with the queen, under her protection detail. But! That’s where the mole is! The king asks if that would be okay (I like that he asks her) and the queen says yes.
Gongmin asks Eun-soo about the future, and that Joseon that she spoke of. What is it? She hedges and says that it’s a country… waaaaay off to the east, where a lot of Yis live. Ha.
She confesses that she doesn’t really know that much about the future. Young mutters, “If you don’t know, don’t say.” She just continues, saying that she’s not sure if the history she knows happens because she came here or if it’s a history that exists only before having come here.
Young: “Do you not hear me?” Eun-soo: “I’m not saying I know when I don’t!” Young: “Still!” Suddenly she’s standing up and they’re bickering in each other’s faces, totally oblivious to the fact that they’re doing this in front of the king and queen. So cute. Gongmin smirks, and Noguk and Aunt just gape. Hee.
Eun-soo finally gets to rant the comeback she wants to… at a vase. HA. I love her.
Meanwhile, the Woodalchi gather to discuss very important business: how far their leader has gone with the doc. Deok-man demonstrates the hand-holding he saw when Young came to stop Eun-soo from running away, and the other guys all balk that he must’ve seen it wrong.
They’re like, Our leader? With a woman? No. Deok-man insists, “I saw it with my own eyes!” He grabs Dae-man to ask if he saw it too, but he says no. The guys give Deok-man another beating.
Suddenly Dae-man turns back to say he did see that though… when the doc was saving Leader… she used her lips on his lips and many many times at that. They practically all faint at the thought.
Young sits in his room staring at his sword. Or more accurately, at the hilt. He must’ve tied the bandana back on after the fight, but he stares at it now with a sigh. He makes a decision and unties it, and puts it away in a chest.
Aunt comes by and marvels in her usual gruff way that the doc was able to get through his thick skull. He just complains that he has so much to do now, which earns him a slap upside the head. He really deserves a few more.
But it’s down to business, as they have to take care of this veiled assassin squad. She offers some of her warriors and then remembers that they have a mole somewhere in the palace.
Young says the mole conveyed the exact message that he would go to Ki Chul with his life on the line. He asks where the leak could be, and Aunt realizes with shock, “I’m the leak.” She recalls saying those words to Noguk.
He asks who might’ve been around, and she says she’ll handle the matter. But Young tells her not to—they can feed her misinformation. Yay for smart good guys.
The ideal plan would be to find a way to draw out the veiled assassins one at a time. All together, and Young can’t guarantee he can win.
Aunt says she’ll try, and then asks what Eun-soo said to make him stop his crazy shit. Did she use the law of heaven or something?
Young: “Life. She put up her life.” And then HE has the gall to be annoyed at her fearlessness, complaining that someone who supposedly hates the smell of blood just stuck a knife at her throat. Why, is she stealing your death wish thunder?
That just gets him all riled up again and he storms out, leaving Aunt gaping behind him.
Eun-soo gets new clothes and complains at all the layers. Aunt comes in to help her, and says quietly that she has a request to make. Young didn’t seem to like the idea, saying that someone from heaven wouldn’t want to lie.
Eun-soo suddenly sits Aunt down and starts to pull her face this way and that, thinking of ways she could fix her face to make her look twenty again. Aunt asks, “Is such a thing possible?” Eun-soo laughs, “Fooled you, didn’t I? I’m a good liar!” Haha.
Gongmin frets that only four days remain until the lecture, and trembles at the thought that Ki Chul really plans to kill anyone who supports him, just for choosing his side. Noguk sees what he’s really upset about and assures him, “You’re not like him.”
He feels guilty that people are losing their lives in support of him, but she says that people dying because of that choice doesn’t make him the same as Ki Chul. She asks him to believe in himself, otherwise those who struggle on his behalf become pathetic.
Young and Aunt put their plan into motion. Four Woodalchi change into plain clothes (Whoa, hello there.) and get sent off to act quietly in secret with Young’s usual, “Just yunno, do well.” One by one, they start quietly nabbing the scholars so they can be protected in secret.
At the same time, Eun-soo begins to tell the king names of people who will end up being supporters or enemies, and they do this all out in the open, so that the mole can hear. Aunt keeps an eye out and notices suspicious movement. Yes! She spotted the mole!
Ki Chul gets the list of names, and it’s suddenly different from what they expected. Now they have no idea which list was true, and who ends up friend or foe. The mole also conveys word that the good guys are protecting the king’s supporters in one location, and the only one who knows where is “a close friend of the king.”
That can only mean Young. Eum-ja offers to go, eager to face off against Young, but Ki Chul sends him elsewhere, to fetch “someone important.”
Meanwhile Young collects head scholar Lee Je-hyun to join the others. He muses, “When I heard there would be a new king, I thought that if we were safe with no incident, that meant there was no hope. If there is to be change, the winds of blood will blow. In times like these, warriors like you are the most pitiful – until you are cut down, you must continue to cut others.”
He returns to the palace to find Eun-soo out on a stroll, and asks where she left her bodyguards. She points them out, saying she asked to walk alone. She asks if her heavenly wisdom helped his plan, and he asks if she’s really going to keep up her involvement.
She teases him for always being so serious and sincere and worried, and slaps him in the chest playfully, “You’ll get sick that way!” And then she does this cute little twirl to show him the new dress that the queen gave her, and asks what he thinks.
He clears his throat nervously and tells her to go inside. Ha.
She sits down and says that in her world, after a day’s work, partners get together over a drink. But there’s no bar inside the palace, so what about his place? They can get together every night here. He asks so innocently, “Meet and do what?”
She says they can check to make sure they’re both okay, talk about what they did that day, and cheer each other on. He gets avoidy and says he’ll be busy, and her voice grows serious as she says she knows – after all, she’s the one who leaked the information that the king’s closest friend is the only one who knows the hideout location.
She asks if he’s going to take them on all by himself, and he says rather than chasing them down, it’s better to lie in wait. He tells her that if he fights well he can win.
Suddenly out of nowhere, he says, “Lift up your skirt.” Rawr?
He stoops down to lift up her hem, as she squeals in surprise. This from the guy who couldn’t manage to look her in the eye when she asked how she looked? But then he takes a dagger out and ties it to her ankle.
She pulls it out gingerly and squirms that she can’t stab people! She’s a doctor! Young: “Stab first, then you can treat them after. That’s what you did to me.” HAHAHA.
She reminds him that he’s the one who warned not to go around stabbing if she didn’t know how. So he offers to teach her, when they meet here. Aw, you’re promising to meet. He says it might not be every night, but says he’ll teach her when they do, and turns to go.
She waves and gives him a cheerful goodbye, putting a smile on his face, and then only betrays her worry once he’s gone.
He goes to see Man-bo, who complains about this plan of his. Ajumma asks if all they have to do is distract the veiled assassins so that Young can take them on one at a time, and Ajusshi acts all put out.
Young just laughs, “Honestly, you guys are happy to have someone to help, aren’t you? You were bored, weren’t you?” Hee.
Ajusshi accuses him of drinking in the middle of the day and saying crazy things, and Young just keeps teasing, “Eh, I can tell you’re excited!” The way he smiles around them just makes my day.
Jang Bin tries to teach Eun-soo about feeling a pulse—not just the beats, but the quality of it, and the roundness and movement. It’s a foreign concept to her, but she tries to feel her way around.
They’re interrupted when Ki Chul just strolls right in like he owns the joint. He asks Eun-soo what it is that made her open up to the king about the future when she was so reluctant to do so with him.
The queen arrives and raises hell for the lax security around here, and then Woodalchi arrives to announce that the king would like to see him. Gongmin demands to know why he came and Ki Chul just says he wanted to check in with the doctor.
Gongmin says confidently that none of his people will bend to Ki Chul’s threats. But Ki Chul asks if he’s really so confident, wondering how many times Choi Young will run around to clean up after the king’s mess before growing tired of it. It shakes Gongmin up.
Ki Chul adds that the doctor is quite shrewd as well, and won’t she discover in due time who truly has the power to protect her? He laughs and adds casually that his sister, empress of Yuan, asked whether he was fine with the current king, or if Goryeo needed a better one.
Damn. That’s a blow. They talk about trading him out like an old shoe.
Meanwhile, Noguk cleans up the king’s desk and wonders what she can do to make him feel better if he’s had a bad day. Aunt isn’t much help in the matter, but asks the king’s eunuch, who’s married, what his wife does in that situation.
He says she gives him liquor. That seems easy enough, but the women wonder what’s so special about that. The eunuch stammers that it’s not so much the liquor as what they do after… and then sputters that he can’t say any more. Heh.
They don’t get it, so they prod him to answer. With no choice, he spits out, “We… we share a bed!” Noguk freezes, wide-eyed.
And then Gongmin walks in, making the whole thing so hilariously awkward. Noguk practically runs out past him without a word, and he’s left totally puzzled. He asks the eunuch to tell him what happened, and the poor man just wails, “Kill me, your majesty!” Hahaha.
Hwasuin and Eum-ja track down someone named Deok-heung, and convey the message that Ki Chul wants to see him. Can he ride a horse or shall they prepare a carriage? But he just quotes a passage that even in the mountains when it seems there is no path, there you will find another village… and laughs as he walks away.
Young readies for battle and hears someone approaching. He swings… at nothing? Wait, are these people literally invisible? ‘Cause that changes things.
No, they just seem super fast, so they whiz past him back and forth.
At the same time, a member of Suribang is dressed exactly like Young, and leads a few of them into the woods.
Young closes his eyes, and three assassins strike at once. He cuts them down swiftly. Gee, Show, it would’ve been nice if you showed me the awesome action instead of whip-panning around it. He counts, “Three.”
He heads to an inn that looks empty, but he talks to the assassins, knowing they’re listening. He wonders what good it is to kill for money, when it all ends if you die. He says with a smile, “Someone I know says that the most important thing in life is living. But you and I don’t know that. To people like us, living is not dying. But that person is different. That person is really living. And with strength at that.”
An assassin comes running out at him from the shadows. Young tosses his sword up and catches it before stabbing him, without even getting up.
He just continues, “So when I look at her, it makes me think: What am I doing right now?” He looks down at the dead man and shuts his eyes, “Four.”
Eun-soo sits in her spot and waits, trying to feel her pulse.
Young washes his bloodied hands in the rain, and waits. Another assassin. He cuts him down, “Five.” He breathes heavily, sighing and drinking the air each time. It’s starting to worry me.
Deok-heung approaches Eun-soo and introduces himself as Gongmin’s uncle. He asks if she’s really from heaven, and then hands over Hwata’s diary. “I was told if I gave you this present, you’d receive it gladly.” Whaaa? How’d he get that?
Young cuts down another, the sixth, but then slumps to the ground and drops his sword. His right hand is covered in blood. He clenches it in pain.
COMMENTS
Interesting… is Gongmin’s uncle a good guy or a bad guy? Is he offering up the diary per Ki Chul’s orders to lure her over the dark side, or does he have a twist in his agenda? Is Ki Chul giving up the diary hoping that Eun-soo will jump ship and start whispering future things in his ear? There’s a giant string attached to that notebook, and I can’t imagine that it’s a very pleasant cost.
As with most things in this drama, I really wish the epic face-off with Ki Chul was, well… more epic. But it was great to have them battle each other to find out a few things – namely, that Ki Chul shouldn’t be expending his ki, and that if Young could outlast him, he might be able to win. I’m glad he made the choice not to be suicidal even before Eun-soo showed up, because despite being willing to die, he ended up choosing not to filet himself just to get to Ki Chul. It seems like each week we have to take baby steps with him to get him to choose life, but in this episode he confesses (to no one but himself, really) that what he was doing before wasn’t really living; it was just not dying.
It’s nice to know that it’s Eun-soo who makes him question what he’s doing with his life. Earlier in the episode she makes a point of saying that she can’t just sit still and breathe—that’s not a life for her. She always chooses to engage her world and be proactive about things, even if they don’t all quite make sense to her. I love that she changes his ideas, makes him question everything, and gets him to smile. They’re developing such a nice rapport, bickering and all, that’s reached a level of comfort and trust that’s great to see. Good developments on all fronts, and a nice place to be at the halfway point in the series.
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51 Lixie
September 19, 2012 at 9:25 AM
boholAnna, jomo, MargaretB, I know, he is very powerful and the king is weak, that is what I've been telling myself since ep 1 but now I feel the writers can't decide exactly where to draw the line. The king is powerful enough to redeem the general who was pretty much gone and the entire woodalchi after abandoning the Yuan clothes, worse, he is powerful enough to demote that governor and steal a big source of income from the prince but he can also have his queen kidnapped, his people murdered and be threatened out of the blue.
THAT is what seems crazy, it's like they just write whatever feels good for the PLOT of the week. I hate plot of the week series. I can't believe this, but in a way, for me, it's BOF all over again. :)
@jomo don't even get me started on the fight scenes!:) I'm watching this with Arang and Gaksitaaaal at the same time.
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52 Ella Zala
September 19, 2012 at 9:33 AM
when the hat and the knot on eunsoo's head fall of because of horseriding added with slo mo effect... i literally laughed my ass of. what in the what~ so epically fail!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
at least its funny. ^^
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Maymay
September 19, 2012 at 9:40 AM
That was a hair commercial moment. :)
ES was doing a shampoo commercial in Goryeo. Hey, a girl got to earn a living somehow. CY is just a poor warrior, so she needs to work to earn a living. :)
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random person
September 19, 2012 at 10:57 PM
I laughed too. Half of me was /facepalm at the directing fail and half of me was thanking the director for making me laugh so hard. Still...I have no idea what the director was thinking for that scene.
"We need a shot of Eun Soo riding desperately to stop Young! We need to show her desperation unsubtly on her face! We have no money or expertise to shoot Eun Soo's face on a real, moving horse! So let's have Kim Hee Sun fake-ride a horse...it would look totally convincing since the background is dark and no one would notice that Eun Soo doesn't seem to be moving...alright let's make some wind effect to convince audiences that Eun Soo IS moving and not fake-riding..."
Kim Hee Sun is a trooper for doing that scene. <3
Feel bad for Lee Min Ho after the awesome directorial fest that was City Hunter.
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53 Maymay
September 19, 2012 at 9:37 AM
LOL at all the gossipy Woodalchi men. :)
Men like to gossip just like women.
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Ennayra
September 19, 2012 at 11:42 AM
I loved those scenes! Those Woodalchi men have really grown on me. :-P
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koreandramalover/kay
September 20, 2012 at 6:42 AM
You are so spot-on, Maymay dear! ;)
The Woodalchi men are just tooooo CUUUTE and ADORRRABLE for words!!! Hahaha!!! ;)
I simply LOOOOVE how they seem to respect and fear CY in equal measure. ;)
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Maymay
September 20, 2012 at 6:09 PM
They should make a show just for the bromance between the Woodalchi and Choi Young. Maybe also the bromance between Choi Young and King Gongmin too. :)
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Kappy
September 21, 2012 at 4:20 AM
Oh man, don't get me started on the Woodalchi. I LOVE them!
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54 Itoshi
September 19, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Lawd, give me moar Gongmin <3 Noguk goodness!! They sit together(thank yooou drama) talk and consult with each other!! And the king's eunuch LOL Spare him so he could dispense more 'exciting' advice...and next time i want Gongmin to be rendered speechless, and to be awkward.. :)
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55 lily
September 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM
new love rival???
gahhhh loving this episode, but could have been better tho... bad directing, and poor scripting. but fighting LMH and KHS!
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56 Ennayra
September 19, 2012 at 11:41 AM
Yay! I love the experience of watching this drama week to week. I had to give up dramas from Feb-June, so of course I had a bunch to catch up on. The result? I'm just now able to watch dramas as they air - I've missed this feeling. Maybe it's because Faith is the first drama I'm watching week to week in a while, but there's something new behind this excitement. Maybe this is why I'm loving Lee Minho extra this time around.
Show is still not very good at cliffhangers, but Show is great at keeping me interested. Can I just say, I squealed and clapped my hands when Eun Soo and Choi Young started talking to each other again, without the illusions of each one working separately to protect the other. Now that Eun Soo has the diary, I hope their partnership isn't over, because I was really enjoying that, and Young is giving his all as he fights the assassins. Yes, the fighting sequences could be more exciting. Ever since it was pointed out that slow motion does not make things better, I laugh at every slow-mo scene. I swear it was exciting back in episode 1...
Oh, and so we finally discovered the reason why nearly every scene in the first few episodes featured Ki Chul bathing. I know his power is scary for the characters, but he's still kind of lol-villain to me.
I truly enjoy Faith. I'll be there for episode 13 next week!
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57 Alfirineth
September 19, 2012 at 11:53 AM
I can't help but wonder if the directing is as bad as is asserted. It could be that the director is trying to foreshadow in the physical world the emotions or actions that are going to happen. And THAT is something that I appreciate in a show.
For example, after the ES sees Young kill the boy ex-king and leaves the house without listening to him, she falls into the arms of Ki Chul, literally and later figuratively as she enters into his house while he tries to "win" her heart. Could the falling into Ki Chul's arms (does anybody else think that he looks like Errol Flynn?) be considered cheesy...depends on who you are. If you take it as a moment of dramaland instead of a foreshadowing of what happens next, then yeah, it's cheesy. But look for a moment at what happened right after she fell into his arms: she was still for a moment before fighting to get down. Just as she was for him over the next few episodes. She was still and now she has decided to fight.
Secondly, Eun-soo's hair coming out while riding. Directing fail? Maybe. However, it came right before an open conversation between CY and her. An accident? Not likely. Over the top directing? Who knows. However, the fact that it occurred while she was on her way back to CY and coming out of "hiding" leads me to suspect that it leans more toward the symbolic.
Another example is between the king and queen and there is a veil between them as they are conversing while she was pretending to be sick and then he lifts it as they come closer to an understanding between them. As someone commented before, it was definitely a good use of symbols.
So is it bad directing or not? It all depends on what you are looking for in a show. Not every style meshes with our own. :)
I really like the show so far, but I have been burned by shows ending badly before. So I am cautiously optimistic.
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SH
September 19, 2012 at 2:59 PM
There are a lot of subtle and meaningful moments in this show, but I guess those have been overlooked by some viewers.
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Waca
September 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM
What? Errol Flynn???
Oh no no no!!! It must be the mustache that made you think that, but please no!!! Errol Flynn is very good-looking, and has real charisma, while Ki-chul...augh!!! He makes so weird faces!!!! :O
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Mar
September 19, 2012 at 8:17 PM
The show does have metaphor and meaning. A lot of us do get it. It's the execution/filming that is bothersome. In this episode, in the scene where her hair comes down, we get the symbolism. Just like we get why Choi cleaned up his hair in a previous episode. Doesn't mean because there are actual layers of meaning and content in the show that the execution was good in all the moments, and the hair coming down scene was pretty poorly done. The veil was one of the better ones, that is for sure. I'm in big love with foreshadowing and hidden meanings and metaphors, it's big fun to me. Critique of elements of a show does not mean that the good points are not appreciated. Posters that might be pinging on something that bothered them about the this episode might post a squee about something they love about the next episode.
Looking forward to the next episode so we can all have fun analyzing it!
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Alfirineth
September 21, 2012 at 8:24 PM
Thank you for bringing out those points. Bothersome is a good word for it. ;)
I am glad that there are others who enjoy the foreshadowing as much as I do! There certainly is a lot of fun to be had in analyzing the show.
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Mar
September 23, 2012 at 6:16 PM
Alfirineth- I'm a huge fan of layers in my movies and my books. Being a voracious reader, it's just part of the package. But I credit, or blame, lol, Joss Whedon and the various Buffy and Angel writers. They totally jerked my inner crit analysis self out of lurker mode and made it a dominant trait! I fulfilled a dream last semester and wrote a crit analysis paper on an episode of Buffy haha!
Kappy
September 21, 2012 at 4:34 AM
Come to think of it, KC does seem Errol Flynn-ish, somewhat. But only somewhat. Waca has noted the ways they are like and not like each other.
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58 bbt
September 19, 2012 at 1:55 PM
After Decoy CY led the assassins on a wild goose chase in the outskirts of town the show did not go on to explain how Decoy CY managed th slip away, or how assassins found Real CY / Real CY found assassins, or how assassins started to stalk Real CY so he can kill them with his eyes closed.
So I offer my hypothesis: Real CY is exhausted from chasing lightening fast assassins around town. A lesser warrior would have just given up.
When it comes to killing the king's supporters, body count for Silver Haired Flute Guy vs Assassins-R-Us is a mediocre 5-0. Somebody tell KC he is not getting value for money. Speaking of Flute Guy, whatever happened to his evil cat?!
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SH
September 19, 2012 at 2:56 PM
Decoy CY was there to lure the two assassins because CY couldn't fight all 7 of them at once. He needed them to come one by one. Assassins followed the fake dude, then they realized he was not the real CY, so they left to find the actual CY. I don't remember the exact minutes, but the two assassins followed fake CY to the forest, saw his face, looked at each other and shake their heads to confirm they followed the wrong dude.
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59 divyrus
September 19, 2012 at 3:23 PM
Drama comment has to wait, first things first,
JB AND GF, can we please have a dr.jin reference tag created so that all the future dr.jin hilarious insulting references won't be missed from a very loyal dr.jin's hilarious recaps fan?!?!?
Ah seriously I LOLd at it! I WANT MORE!
Pretty please JB GF?????
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60 midwest mz
September 19, 2012 at 3:27 PM
I sometimes do not read much of the comments here, and today did. Interesting, and sheeesh!
People that were real, in a television made up story line. She in the real world is older, and perhaps also in the story line. So? They work so well together in the story line, and darn, look good together. It is nice to see the progression of the characters, and try and wonder where they will wind up.
I apparently did not note the ’glitch’ in the first fight sequence. Just drinking in the overall episode. It moves, and is moving. I makes you roll on the floor in laughter, and wants you to smack someone in the back of the head. Characters are growing and blooming.
Remember some of the “things” that came out in the earlier part of this year!! This one surpasses them by leaps and bounds!
Just enjoy it for what it is . . . . a bitching - enjoyable - diversion, drool, drool, drool, drool, etc., etc., etc.
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61 Waca
September 19, 2012 at 4:33 PM
Thanks for the recap!
Just finished watching ep 11 and 12.
I really love the building romance between the main leads, and between the king and the queen. They are adorable!
I like that Choi Young is getting livelier. As for Eun-soo, I really like that her character is strong; what often annoys me in dramas is how the female main character is often shown to be sweet and cute and fragile, and I find that really disturbing; it's as if they were saying to us woman to be like this, like some kind of brainless pretty doll. Here Eun-soo is strong, and uncute (well she is cute, but not in doll-like nor child-like, she's cute because of her character). I really like that she's got guts just like men do.
Queen Noguk is strong as well. She's so adorable! I was so LOLing when she asked about what to do to comfort the King, and then left without a word when the guy said he slept with his wife!
About the plot now; well I like it, but I was wondering a few things. I mean, Eun-soo sometimes says that she's afraid of changing things, but if Hwata's diary is hers, which would mean that she traveled back in time even further in the past, then it means that everything already happened, which would mean that whatever she does is already known in her future. I dunno, that's what I thought...
As for the directing, well, I do not complain...it could be better, but at least it's not Jinned. Yeah.
However, I'm getting tired of the so cliched villains. I can't wait for the heroes to wipe off the stupid grins from their face. Seriously. :D
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62 Stardust
September 19, 2012 at 4:34 PM
Thank you girlfriday for the recap as usual! LOL I am commenting first before finishing reading because I think today's ep warrants a watch after you review and I am liking what I saw so far till the hand-warming /heart-warming scene hahaha
I was like PPFFTT at your comments about the hair shampoo commercial lol And it seems like the director was trying to pull a Robert downey Jr -Sherlocke Holmes type of Fight-vision LOL but I suppose budget doesn't allow for as much flair...
I am glad that Choi Young didn't skewer himself becos, how many swords can a man's gut take? Am so glad the preview was a fake out..
Much love and thanks again, for feeding us great recaps =)
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63 diajoi
September 19, 2012 at 5:56 PM
am with you on this Carole. spot on. :-)
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64 Abbie
September 19, 2012 at 6:39 PM
This was my favorite episode since episode 8, because of all the funny, and yes, Woodalchi undressing. Heh.
I love all the Noguk and Gongmin scenes. I love that Noguk is being more forward with her support for Gongmin. And that whole scene with the eunuch and when she ran out, that was so cute and utterly priceless.
I love the rapport that has grown between Eun-soo and Young. Their little moments are great.
Ki Chul is crazy, but I still like him. I think it's more on account of the actor more than the actual character.
Also, the directing is really weird, but this episode has brought me fully back into this show. Faith forever!
Thanks for the recap, Girlfriday!
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65 Mar
September 19, 2012 at 7:53 PM
Love that Choi wasn't on a total suicide run, he actually had a plan. A sucking stabby plan, but better than going to meet his dead girlfriend wtf plan.
Love more character development for Choi and Eun-soo. Loved the hair and hand scene. I like the simple quiet acceptance these two can have sometimes when they forget everything else and just be. Loved the bickering scene too. Loved the partner scene. Looking forward to seeing if the series makes the meeting place a regular thing.
Loved the Queen and the soju and sex conversation hahaha. I'm really hoping the Kings assistant guy spilled the beans on the conversation to the King. Loved Eun-soo's kdrama geek out moment, too funny.
Loved that Eun-soo was the knight in shining armor riding to Choi's rescue, well, sort of. We all could have lived without the Loreal moment. Speaking of Loreal, did they have henna in Goreyo? Cause girlfriends roots going to be popping soon.
And will Flute Boy's jealousy issues with Microwave Girl's wandering eye cause problems with the Brigade of Bad? Ooh wouldn't that be fun if he goes over to the good side because she burnt the cookies?
I feel like I have increasing focus on weighing the groan factor with the squee factor. The good thing that anytime Choi is in a scene it increases the squee factor, because as another poster for which I have forgotten her name, said in a previous topic, because of, hey, REASONS.
Yet ANOTHER new character with Princely Uncle. Really? Deal with some of the stuff we already have going on and the characters we already need to get more scene time with.
GF, you hit it on the head-Directing fail is the problem with the show I think. That and budget.
The fight scene reminded me of a bad imitation of Voldemort slithery special effects in the forest from the first Harry Potter movie. You know what the difference is between Voldemort and Hair Clip Ice Hand Guy? Voldmort was scary.
You know, I'm good without the stupid bad wire stuff okay? Just throw in a little fairy dust and glowy fingers and frosty freezy hand and sword fighting and we would be just as happy without trying to pretend it's an epic fight scene. You know what also works? Punching someone in the throat. I'm down for that.
Lady Choi is epic. Why hasn't she taken over the country, heck, even the Yuan Dynasty?
The female characters in this show are really a great draw. That is definitely a win for the series.
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66 ulaulo
September 19, 2012 at 9:14 PM
that king's uncle played by park yun jae aka chae rim's brother... hmm.. i think i will start watching "Faith" ...
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67 Shae
September 19, 2012 at 10:02 PM
ES has the " talk" with Nogook....everyone faints when she then demos the art of closed-mouth kissing, on CY..*L*.then gets a piggyback ride
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68 risa
September 19, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Thank you for the recap :)
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69 cassiopeiae
September 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Love the last picture.
How could he has such a beautiful nose?
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70 LoriLou
September 20, 2012 at 2:58 AM
I'm more interested in the Noguk / Gongmin pairing to be honest. Can't wait till that speeds up. :)
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71 psychoanalyst
September 20, 2012 at 8:48 AM
I just want to say my heart longs for the new episode. My mind lingers and dearly wish for them to eventually and mutually come to their feelings. :( Five more days.
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72 owl
September 20, 2012 at 9:21 AM
And what's with Dr Jang teaching Heaven's doctor about 24 pulse rhythms? Shouldn't she be frantically trying to give him as much knowledge as possible with a 700 year gap to fill on medical advancement? Even with 14th century limitations, surely she could impart a wealth of medical understanding before she returns to where she came from. Don't make no sense.
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SH
September 20, 2012 at 10:41 AM
Yes, she should teach him western medical practices because eastern traditions have no health benefits. Why bother learning how to take pulse when you have stethoscope? Oh wait, she forgot to bring it with her to Goryeo. I also recall ES telling Dr. Jang about anesthesia, and later Dr. Jang experimented with some plants to create something to that effect. Funny how that was ignored.
Sarcasm aside, that scene and another of her learning to take her own pulse are for narrative reasons. They symbolize ES accepting her current environment. At the end of Ep. 12, she's taking pulse signifies living. That scene mirrors another scene of CY with his monologue about life, closing that guy's eyes and washing his bloody hands.
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73 anicheung
September 20, 2012 at 9:41 AM
This is by far, I think, my favorite episode of Faith. Shoddy fight scene choreography and questionable editing aside, I really enjoyed the character interactions in this episode. Between the developing relationship between Choi Young and Eun Soo as well as the more pleasant atmosphere between King and Queen, I am loving it a lot! I like that Eun Soo is taking such a proactive stance in the entire situation (which is why we love her) because it irks me to no end when the female lead just sits around and waits for the problems to be solved by the big bad men. And I like that Eun Soo riles up Choi Young so much that he's finally starting to come out of his monotonous shell (I like cheerful Choi Young more so than "I only live my life by not dying" Choi Young).
Finally, that wide-eyed look of school-girl embarrassed shock on Princess Noguk's face after learning what the eunuch and his wife do after drinking... Man! That was priceless and I thought it was such a cute way to interweave Noguk and Gongmin's growing relationship into all the political conspiracy plotting.
While this series isn't the best in some aspects, it certainly is catching my attention so well that I am actually at the edge of my seat waiting for the very next episode to broadcast... then waiting the extra two days for English subtitles (drat it!).
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SH
September 20, 2012 at 10:03 AM
You waited two days? Why so long? Faith has probably the fastest subbers I've seen.
I love this episode too! More Lee Min-ho's screentimes = better episode :P
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anicheung
September 21, 2012 at 6:48 PM
Oh. I watch my subs on Drama Fever, and so far the pattern seems to be two days. Like, I know that the first episode of the week will air on Monday; and then I try to catch the subs on Tuesday, but they aren't available, so I have to wait until Wednesday. This week it updated on Tuesday that episode 11 was up, but for some reason it wouldn't load, so I still had to wait until Wednesday.
@Lula, I guess if I really want to see it earlier, I should try watching on Viki then. lol
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Lula
September 20, 2012 at 2:08 PM
two days?! i saw it a day later after it was broadcasted...i have no life, then, lol....Viki uploads it like around 1 PM NY time and by 8 pm its 100% subbed....i was on vacation this week and saw this pattern for both epis...
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74 Mandelbrotr
September 20, 2012 at 12:50 PM
If only the shampoo commercial could have come with real product placement.
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75 Lula
September 20, 2012 at 2:04 PM
A lil late-- fine, very late....but are there previews for next week's epi? I hate that they are randomly done...thanks!
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76 S
September 20, 2012 at 2:13 PM
There was noticeably more male-female interaction in this episode. I think it was so that we could see the relative handsy-ness of the CY-ES relationship for the time. The only other contact we have seen between men and women has been husband-wife (and even then it was awkward), nephew-aunt, any man-seductress, and kidnapper-kidnapped.
Well, that and CY with his late fiancée. This is the only public instance of two people like-liking each other and displaying it openly. CY’s past relationship, the way he mentors the young soldiers and past/present/future kings, and his interaction with his aunt and Suribang help establish him as someone who is more affectionate than average. Without that, there is no way he could be a good match for someone from 2012. It means nothing to ES to have male friends or shake hands or playfully pat someone… these things are not weird in 2012.
I like that the CY-ES relationship has progressed slowly. Now, halfway through the story, CY is willing to accept contact from ES. In the beginning (like in the barracks), he would actively push ES away. Gradually, that lessened to weak resistance. Finally, in the handshake scene, CY asks ES to stop instead of pulling away himself.
From here, I think we will see more CY-initiated contact (for reasons other than kidnapping/silencing/etc.). There was already once scene with the tucking hair behind the ear. But I think the fighting lessons are really going to help this along. This will allow ES the chance to start like-liking CY… since he has already started to look at her differently.
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77 nationalad
September 20, 2012 at 9:12 PM
Anyone notice how Choi Young's emotions swing from one end of the spectrum to another whenever he talks about or to Eun Soo in Epi 12? Ha. Only Eun Soo can evoke the different emotions in him.
- A determined Choi Young who wants to kill Ki Chul for the good of everyone, especially Eun Soo but gets anxious, frustrated and worried later when she threatens both of them with a dagger to her throat
- A tender Choi Young who senses something's not right with Eun Soo and tucks her hair gently behind her ear, only to feel guilty and upset for making her cry
- A surprised (but secretly happy) Choi Young at the intimacy of her touch (when she holds his frostbitten hand)
- An uncertain Choi Young who shies away from Eun Soo when asked to pronounce the heavenly word "partner"
- A horrified Choi Young at the thought of losing his dignity in front of the Woodalchi gang when Eun Soo pumps his hand up and down in the garden
- The flustered Choi Young who probably can't understand why he always loses to Eun Soo when it comes to words (in front of the royal couple and Lady Choi!!! Ack!!!)
- A frustrated Choi Young who now has more workload because of Eun Soo's interference, only earning a slap on his head by Lady Choi and later gets all worked up when he recalls her fearless attempt at placing the dagger at her throat to force him to call off his mission despite her abhorrence for blood
- The emotionally-laden Choi Young who now sees the act of taking lives in a different light
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kappy
September 21, 2012 at 3:12 PM
I loved reading all your recollections about our warrior Choi Young. Put a smile to my face.
Thoughts of this couple run through my head several times a day, esp. since epi 12 entered the scene. Sigh.
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78 Ivy
September 21, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Is the diary empty? It looks like she received only the cover.
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79 budzy90
September 22, 2012 at 11:53 AM
I was exasperated cos i thought that the drama would have only 16 eps and it was progressing SOO slowly... but i just learned that it has 24 EPS!!!!:)) *does a happy dance*
I really love the girl too..although my friends thinks she oo loud and overacting.i think it fits her character!!
umm...and i was just wondering..does anyone know if this drama has a kiss scene?cos she's married and all..:(maybe they won't?? i would be REALLY dissapointed if there's not:(( I really need my LMH kiss fix for this year!!
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80 lorac
September 22, 2012 at 2:05 PM
After seeing the original trailer for The Great Doctor I can only say, "I want to see that!" Not that Faith isn't satisfying, but part of me says, "Just kill Ki Chul already."
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81 sparkles
September 22, 2012 at 6:18 PM
This is my favorite episode so far because it has great scenes of our CY and ES!!! Love it! Especially the one with the two peeping Toms. Hahaha XD
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82 muriell812
September 23, 2012 at 2:30 AM
This drama may be flawed but there's one thing it excels at: making me crazy, waiting for the next episode. And it's worse this week because there's no preview at the end of ep12.
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83 tamtam
September 23, 2012 at 8:52 PM
Late into the game, but I kind of got into Faith from an itch to watch kdrama, and the lack of interesting ones on air right now led me to this one. I have to say, it's interesting plot wise, but everything else seems a bit off. It's like the pacing, editing, cinematography, combat choreography all took a back seat. I'm invested now in the plot and the couple and actually cares about the characters, but I don't think I can sit down for an hour of watching for the sake of getting to the scenes where there're only plot development or the couple scenes. So I'm really glad that DB is recapping this series so I can skip ahead sometimes or read their funny reaction to a ridiculous scene/detail so at least I know someone else feels the same.
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84 Phin
September 23, 2012 at 9:09 PM
I'm also late in the game watching Fate. At first I read the recaps but decided that I wanted to watch it myself to see how it is. I started with episode 11 and 12 and I agree that the fighting scence between Young and Ki Chul could have been the highlight of this episode if done correctly. This weekend I watched episode 1-6 and I must admit that there're many moments that I like and the story line is very interesting. I enjoyed episode 1,2,6 a lot but episode 3-5 were quite slow and fulled with long and a bit boring conversation. Sometimes I got bored of the female lead because she spoke too much and I cringed everytime the microwave girl was on screen. I also cringed whenever she used her bomb! I think Faith will be better if the director edited it to me more tight.
All in all, I'm invested in this drama and routing for it to success. Hope it will improve week by week. Now I'm really looking forward to see episode 13 tonight. So bad that there's no preview.. maybe it's a sign that Faith is behind schedule which is not a good thing at all.
I will surely stick with Faith until the end before judging any thing and I hope it will be an enjoyable and insightful ride.
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85 Kwhat?!
September 25, 2012 at 4:58 AM
Why is the directing so all over the place? It drives me crazy! I need these recaps just to tell me what happens while I'm watching the show, because I'm so lost on my own. And the fight scenes are set up to be awesome, but just. . . aren't. Mostly.
My major question after this episode is why is Young bleeding? Did his ice injuries rupture or something? It's just so random, and made to seem important, but fails to have the weight it probably should. Maybe episode 13 will help. Gah!
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86 shahera5
October 19, 2012 at 10:14 PM
I just started watching Faith last Saturday and am through to episode 12. I very much appreciate these synopses and all your comments. I am enjoying the show immensely, particularly watching LMH as CY. I like the slow pace of the romance. I hadn't really noticed that ES was older than CY. The series so far makes me laugh and cry, so it is emotionally satisfying. It's also made me do some reading about Korean history. Your comments about fight scenes and direction have been helpful in alerting me to why some scenes didn't seem right. Thanks!
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87 prettysup
February 23, 2015 at 11:22 PM
I thought Choi Young was slashed in the leg when fighting the bad guy? How come she only nurses his hand? I want to see some legsssss !!
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88 Beez
June 22, 2015 at 6:14 AM
As usual, I'm late to the party but I have a question and hope somebody will read this and answer:
Quote from the recap -
"..but asks the king’s eunuch, who’s married, what his wife does in that situation."
Why does the enuch have a wife?
At first I thought maybe the word "enuch" is being used without the same meaning we know of it and is being substituted for "attendant/valet" but in other saegueks it's mentioned of them being "ball-less".
Is this just an error in subtitling for Faith?
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