Lie To Me: Open Thread? Vote!
by javabeans
So the recapping verdict is in: Miss Ripley in, Lie To Me out. Girlfriday and I are satisfied with this choice, inasmuch as we know our physical limits despite wanting to cover every drama ever. (Okay, not every drama. But a good chunk of ‘em.)
However, we realize there’s still a crapton of you online, right now, possibly maybe still waiting for the recap? And we realize that sometimes you just need a place to say your piece, vent, squee, fight over my man, et cetera. (By the way, he appreciates the love, but he’d like you go away now. Trust me, it’s what he wants.)
SO. We tossed around the idea of creating Lie To Me-specific Open Threads to discuss the respective episodes. (Caveat: We aren’t going to start doing this for every drama. We’re only opening this idea up now because we do feel bad for dropping one that was in progress.) Truthfully, we don’t know if this is even a good idea, or something you’d want. Ergo: Vote time!
*(Even though it’s a futile endeavor, as he is deeply faithful to JB.)
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151 catyeo
May 31, 2011 at 4:28 AM
Just noticed something. On Monday & Tuesday we have Lie To Me, Miss Ripley and Baby-Faced Beauty, all of which are about lies. Is there a thing going on about lying?
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chantal
May 31, 2011 at 6:54 AM
i know! most convenient reason to spin a whole story from, that's what it is :-)
it just says that when we are very good at spinning lies...we can probably be a good candidate for a kdrama writing job! yikes!
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152 Eva
May 31, 2011 at 4:30 AM
good idea...LTM was disappointing not sure if i'll keep watching too i find it waaay to predictable...YAY for Miss Ripley!!
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153 motto
May 31, 2011 at 4:31 AM
i still cant let go of Lie to Me and your recaps are made of gold :(
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154 sad
May 31, 2011 at 4:32 AM
AWWWWWWW WHY DROP LIE TO ME? :(((( WHY?WHY?WHY?
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155 Caarol
May 31, 2011 at 4:36 AM
I don't think it's fair to pull out after recapping a few episodes, because a few people (like me) are still waiting/wanting it.
You've continued to recap many bad dramas like Mary Stayed out All Night. So please do so for this one!
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156 Anon
May 31, 2011 at 4:38 AM
If you guys are planning to drop dramas halfway through recap, then don't recap at all. What's the point?
You don't like it so you drop it. Not fair for your audience and bias.
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mrskimchee
May 31, 2011 at 4:53 AM
btw, ..there are so many other places that do recap for this drama..and very fast too.
yes, they might not to your taste...but why get mad in here?
here's the recap from koala:
http://koalasplayground.com/
and rebel souls:
http://soulsrebel.wordpress.com/
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Christine
May 31, 2011 at 4:55 AM
I agree! That was a bad move for DB.
I was beginning to like LTM. After 49 days, it was the drama I wanted to watch and then now it was dropped.
As for Mr Ripley, there's just too much drama in our lives, it's not for me and will give it a miss. (I'll miss Mickey though).
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huh?
May 31, 2011 at 6:51 AM
They're not obligated to finish anything they started. We should be happy that they recap at all because they're not getting paid for it!
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Mandy
May 31, 2011 at 8:09 AM
Actually... i think they're paid in the form of advertisement. And i feel so cheated.
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Joo
May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM
HELLO, they're not paid!! *roll eyes* they are in fact using their own $$$ to get a domain and spending their precious free time on recapping to share their love for kdramas so i don't see why they have to continue recapping a drama when they don't even enjoy watching it..
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Ace
May 31, 2011 at 9:13 AM
Whether they're getting something or not from ads is not really the point. The point is that they're not getting paid by their readers. They recap because they love kdramas and so they write about what they love. If we're paying them to write whatever we want to read, then by all means be betrayed if they don't oblige you.
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157 mrskimchee
May 31, 2011 at 4:48 AM
i love KJH as much as jb and gf love him..so i do understand their feelings..when they had to decide dropping this drama....sigh...
honestly, amongst the 3 dramas i watch now, Best Love, Romance Town, Lie to Me has been the weakest one..as much as i enjoyed watching KJH looking so mighty fine here...
anyway..what about instead of an OT, maybe just a short comment of the 2 episodes during the week? I'd loveeee to hear what your thoughts on this drama..
or maybe just a short conversation between jb and gf??
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xin
May 31, 2011 at 5:11 AM
I like the idea of a short conversation! Love reading the recaps here because of their fun and quirky ways to describe the drama!
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158 Christine
May 31, 2011 at 4:59 AM
What we need is a recap and not snippets or random comments on a drama.
I can't see the advantage of an open thread.
Either DB recaps it or not.
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159 fafa
May 31, 2011 at 5:02 AM
while Miss Ripley mite really be a hit coz i'm so in love with yoochun,
it's a shame to leave Lie to Me un-recap.. it's a good drama and gets me giddy everytime!
please keep recaping for the sake of wagging my own tail..
thanks!!!
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160 G!
May 31, 2011 at 5:07 AM
actually dropping ltm is sad :(( can you just please please continue...
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161 So-In-lurve
May 31, 2011 at 5:07 AM
please please please......
DUN ABANDON LTM....
its becuz of u guys dat i got addicted to it...( matter of fact KJH is der not da i wud hav missed it)...
Please guys recap it.... I heard its got a COKE KISS in the nxt ep!!!
OPEN THREAD vs UR recaps.. I am in for your recaps....
But i guess u guys hav already med up ur mind so "OPEN THREAD" mite as well wrk!!
Guys on the second thought please think about recapping once again (i m sure u have weighed all the sides but still).........
I will miss ur witty remarks n statements abt LTM!!!
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162 Carmen
May 31, 2011 at 5:12 AM
Sure it doesn't seem fair but we're not the ones recapping our butts off...and the beauty of the recaps are that they are so Jb and girlfriday filled - snarkiness, wittiness and all that goodness in between that it wouldn't be fun without the biased opinions you guys give! I have personally come to trust you guys for all my kdrama cravings so I just wanted to voice my support for you guys whatever you do! As one person previously commented, your recaps really are nuggets of gold...so I'd follow you guys through Lie to Me, Miss Ripley, Lie to me open threads or nothing (though I admit I would sulk for a bit if you somehow decided on dropping it all...)
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163 zeemom
May 31, 2011 at 5:16 AM
I am a little bit dissapointed here not for DB but for some negative comments from some of you. To be honest, I can understand wisely why they (DB) CONSIDER to drop recap LTM. I am myself have this big big dissappoint to LTM. I think it will be something good only coz of the two main casts KJH and EYH. But as the first ep was aired I already guessed this would happen. Dont get me wrong, I am still watching this drama but just watching and do not put high expectation anymore as I have at the beginning. If only these two casts were not in, I gave up already after the first ep.
As they (DB) stated above its an open thread. If they think they could not manage to recap two dramas in the same time, its their decision. You should be grateful that they have been doing the recaps so far for this drama.
Anyway, for DB, I enjoyed your recap very much, since you showed proper english (I understand) and you put logical thinking for some of the korean phrases or term which is difficult to translate (other recap sites do not supply this), you also put critical comment though some people out there will not understand. In short, you recap is not only translation but more about being critical for positive reason and culture explanation as a bonus. Thank you and keep continue what you think you should do without hesitation.
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mrskimchee
May 31, 2011 at 5:47 AM
ditto! 100% agree with you!
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vicka
May 31, 2011 at 6:09 AM
I Agree... and the saddest part is that they also are ranting on soompi....
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vis
May 31, 2011 at 6:36 AM
Yeah, there's a surprisingly number of negative comments about this... Recapping takes time, probably more so than one would believe (isn't that always the case? *sighs*). And analyzing it the way JB and GF do takes even more time, although it's that insight which makes their recaps so awesome.
People should be more understanding...
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huh?
May 31, 2011 at 6:55 AM
Like! :) As a DB reader for ages now, I am forever grateful that they're recapping dramas. They should not force themselves to do something they don't want to.
I like LTM because of the leads, but it's a fluffy rom com and you can practically watch it without subtitles and you'll still get the gist haha! :D
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chantal
May 31, 2011 at 7:18 AM
agree with you, huh! i got the whole story even without eng subs and i only know a few words in korean. so even without recaps...this is a no-brainer, hahahahahaha!
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Ace
May 31, 2011 at 8:13 AM
LOL! All too true...but let's not gloat too much!
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164 Ingrid
May 31, 2011 at 5:18 AM
Please continue recapping Lie To Me. Please! Thanks
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165 holly
May 31, 2011 at 5:32 AM
please please continue LTM recaps
watching and then reading your opinions or reading recap then watching is a lot more fun than just watching
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166 samantha soong
May 31, 2011 at 5:34 AM
am so disappointed that you have decided not to continue the recaps. your respective insights, JB and GF, on the diff dramas make them more interesting to us non-korean speakers. your recaps of earlier dramas were what got me into kdramas in the first place....
isn't that Ripley show the one with LDH? hmmm, don't really like her and don't have plans of watching it.
would rather have you recapping Lie to Me with the two gorgeous leads.....
:-(
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167 malta
May 31, 2011 at 5:37 AM
I love my quality dramas, but I can appreciate the fluff too. I love my meatloaf and mashed potatoes, but I sometimes I just need cotton candy...I sound like a crazed hungry person! :)
Anyway, I will continue watching Lie to Me cause I just love the leads and the brother. I do think it's a bit unfair to compare Lie to Me to Ms. Ripley though since they are in completely different genres. I know some people who don't watch any melodramas....at all. So, apples and oranges....meatloaf and cotton candy...
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168 gaeinalee
May 31, 2011 at 5:45 AM
..R u sure? No more KJH n YEH? Ahhh, well.. Now, can I hv KJH all by myself then? :D
Love the way u and GF write LTM recap.. Witty yet dry yet entertaining. Ur opinions on drama/variety show are something that I long to read..
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169 Si Ah
May 31, 2011 at 5:46 AM
Pleaaaaase keep your recaps and comments about this drama. It makes all the difference and since i recommend your recaps for this drama to all my friends -k-drama freaks- . just give it a chance ^^
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170 chyrae
May 31, 2011 at 5:50 AM
aww i'm kinda disappointed that LTM is out and ripley is in, but i understand the reasons for the choice. many thanks to JB and GF anyway for all the LTM recaps thus far!
the ripley premise doesnt appeal to me at all so i won't be following that series... many thanks to all the other readers who posted alternative links to recaps for LTM! really appreciate it. :)
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171 daebak
May 31, 2011 at 5:51 AM
Lie To Me FTW!! Please GF and JB don't drop LTM. :)
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172 Daniaa
May 31, 2011 at 5:54 AM
whoa, such a lot of negativity for DB's decision. admittedly, i don't watch LTM because the recaps discourage me. i trust in DB's choices, see how i love que sera sera? that would never happen unless DB came out with their rec list.
i love yoochun, but if it sucks halfway, i'd want to drop it too. i didn't make it past ep4 for yunho's drama, or ep7 for changmin's. didn't finish jae's sunao either.
for DB, it's up to you really. i care about which dramas you recap, because it's a culture that you're introducing to me via these recaps, but not to the extent of bashing you if your decisions clashes with mine.
agree to disagree, i say. fans of LTM can keep on watching, post on the open threads; DB has given an option, haven't they? let's see how Ripley fares with DB's dissection. if it turns out to be up to their taste, then cool! that means they have fun recapping it. but if it falls short, then by all means, its their decision in the 1st place.
in the meantime, let me finish dl-ing MR and see for myself how the pilot episode fares.
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173 KATAMI
May 31, 2011 at 5:54 AM
too bad i was really in it......but sseing all the work you're doing (JB & GF) ....I totally understand ....anyway ...i hope miss ripley won't disapoint us...thx
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KATAMI
May 31, 2011 at 6:07 AM
but i really hope you'll continue the recap .........lol
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174 jeanie65jh
May 31, 2011 at 5:56 AM
Gah! I'm bummed you won't be recapping Lie To Me...but I know it's your decision. I'll just enjoy Best Love and Romance Town recaps.
The premise of Ms. Ripley doesn't appeal to me. I either won't watch or it will take me a long time and a dry spell of other dramas before I watch in the future.
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175 wobee
May 31, 2011 at 6:03 AM
ow? but WHY? i feel sad/bad that you're letting this drama go. i kept on holding onto this drama despite the numerous bad comments. so i guess i'll just lurk around at koala's site for the recaps.
as for miss ripley, i feel that its plot/premise is not my cup of tea, so i think i'm gonna skip this one.
anyway, goodluck on the recaps, i hope all chosen dramas will deliver to the audiences' satisfaction.
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176 Joy
May 31, 2011 at 6:05 AM
Awww this is so sad.
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177 butterfly
May 31, 2011 at 6:11 AM
I'd been to another site that recapped Lie To Me episode 7, why can't I able to finish reading the recap there when I like Lie to Me and YEH. sometimes the style of writing of the writer attracts the reader. I miss gf and jb's recap of LTM
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178 ella
May 31, 2011 at 6:25 AM
please dont drop LIE TO ME..it is a great drama ..;(
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179 Messi
May 31, 2011 at 6:29 AM
How come most of comments are in favour of continuing the recap and bashing jb and gf but the poll results shows the other way around?
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180 Ben
May 31, 2011 at 6:30 AM
I watch Dramabeans only for Yoon Eun Hye. I am a great fan of hers. As long as something there on YEH, I am in.
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181 mane
May 31, 2011 at 6:36 AM
FANGIRLS ARE SCARY!
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java the island not the blogger
May 31, 2011 at 7:15 AM
LOL..indeed
I don't get all the negativity.
For me, it's a win-win, especially us the reader,
we can read LTM recap at Ockoala's blog
and Miss Ripley at Dramabeans.
Ockoala's recap is very detailed and her screencaps
is great. The writing style is different some of you said?
Deal with it.
Best Love, now THAT's a drama that wouldn't complete without JB's insight.
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vicka
May 31, 2011 at 7:47 AM
I'm totally with you... I like JB and GF's writing and also like Ockoala’s writing... They are different but really detail and I love to have the opportunity to read recaps from both dramas...
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jeanie65jh
May 31, 2011 at 7:40 AM
Wow, I agree. I mean, I was honest and commented I was bummed but I still respect their decision! There are certainly other places to enjoy recaps. I don't understand the harshness of some comments here. It smacks of ungratefulness for everything JB and GF do. They don't have to do this! They volunteer their time for this!
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182 miasc
May 31, 2011 at 6:36 AM
I apriciate the recap on LTM this is the only drama I am watching till its over.
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183 Venus
May 31, 2011 at 6:40 AM
I'm loving this idea of open threat actually for the drama and for other dramas you girls can't recap it can give us the chance to spazzz, rant or vent.
So I totally understand if LTM has been dropp, and to be honest LTM compared to other dramas airing right now is not a stellar, the lead OTP chemistry is what driving this drama, the writing sorry to all LTM just sucks and like MSOAN its wasting their talents, I could be wrong down the stretch and the drama can actually get better, but right now I just don't feel it.
Thank you JB anb GF for give us the chance to have a say and for caring for our opinions, it make me feel that you guys really do listen and want our input. So thank you sooo much.....
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184 badmamajama
May 31, 2011 at 6:42 AM
lol too much bad blood flowing in this comment section . knowing JB or as girlfriday once mentioned about how se might cut a bitch - she might just not do the open thread all together with all the whinny and bitchy comments .
Let's be civilized shall we ??
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185 binabob
May 31, 2011 at 7:02 AM
to be honest javabeans and girlfriday do so much for us and still have alot to do and I luv that eventhough im gonna miss the lie to me recaps im still happy with all the other recaps for this summer.
(As long as they still do you've fallen for me im happy)xxxxxxxx
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186 just reading
May 31, 2011 at 7:02 AM
totally disappointed that you dropped Lie To Me but yeah if you are not interested with the drama what is the point of you recapping it. i get your point!
but i am sticking with it! i will watch it until the final episode...the chemistry between YEH and KJH is awesome...no other drama can make me switch...
yoochun's in ripley so yahhoooo! but i guess i will end up disappointed with ldh, there is always something lacking in her performance especially during the angsty parts. saw chuno...she wasnt bad, serviceable but truly lacking...just saying
and for those complaining, just simply go to other blog sites who are still blogging about LTM...koala's addicted to it...you will love her recaps...
besides who we are to complain, we are just simply readers...
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Chippy
May 31, 2011 at 7:59 AM
Yes, I'll agree (again).
I will need the recaps for me to understand the drama being a non-Korean. Another way would be to wait for days for the other sites to have them subbed.
It is DB's choice on what drama to recap or not. What I can't understand is on why they've started recapping something and then decide to drop it, just like that.
Ah well, we beggars can't be choosers.
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187 sierrablue
May 31, 2011 at 7:04 AM
You guys could have opted to not even recap Miss Ripley after dropping Lie To Me and get a good night's rest for a change ;)
Open Threads are a good idea...
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188 ...
May 31, 2011 at 7:05 AM
At least you finally came to a decision :D For a while I was wondering if you invented a time machine, lol
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189 peony
May 31, 2011 at 7:06 AM
i ttlly agree with that other person up there--LTM is much more suiting to fluffy fangirling than indepth recaps and analyzing.
mucho thanks to JB and GF for recaps! :)
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190 pohonphee
May 31, 2011 at 7:11 AM
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191 chantal
May 31, 2011 at 7:21 AM
Dear JB:
I did not vote because Im not exactly a big fan of LTM although Im still continuing to watch it because I just like the chemistry of YEH and KJH. But, on the other hand, I do think the open thread might be a good idea for those who really want to rave or rant about this show.
I can understand if you dropped the recapping of this show. I saw it coming with how the show went sluggishly from epi 1. It would be best to use your time and recapping magic for the other shows that are more solid and exciting (hint: BFB, hehe).
So the open thread dedicated to Lie To Me is a really neat idea! Maybe you should do that for all the other shows that you cant completely recap on a weekly basis. Because who knows things might change for Lie To Me mid-stream and you'd hate to disappoint all these fans who are just goin' gaga over it right now. A zippy comment here and there can really mean a lot to them.
Thanks for all yr hard work and the passion for this thing that you do so well.
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chantal
May 31, 2011 at 8:00 AM
And besides, LTM does not need any recap...or even english subtitles...you can get the story very easily from just the actions/visuals.
I just realized now, this is one way for anyone to tell if the show is just fluff. If you turn off the audio or the subtitles and you can still get the story 80-90% correct then it's just pure fluff :-)
But for stories that make you want to hang on to every word that is being said, where some brain activity on your part is needed to make some semblance of the situations or the characters' motivations, where no english subtitle means you are so dead it makes you want to go to the nearest language class to learn to translate quick (either that or marry a native of that land so you can have a handy-interpreter for all your drama obsessions by your side 24/7...)....well, these are the stuff we crave and long for!
Sometimes though fluff is all we need to get us some rest and relaxation. Too much vexation may lead to frustration....
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192 Caroline
May 31, 2011 at 7:23 AM
So this just totally ruined my day. Lie To Me is getting better. It had a rough start, but I thought your love for all things Kang Ji Hwan would be enough for you to stick through recapping.
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193 Damselfly H
May 31, 2011 at 7:23 AM
Whether something is "good", is always subjective. I think Ripley gives a sense of diversity of dramas being recapped, since Romance Town, Lie To Me, and Best Love, in my opinion, are along the lines of romantic comedy. The same line of thought goes with recapping 1N2D in the first place, to diversify and give us a sense of what else is on TV in South Korea.
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194 libra80
May 31, 2011 at 7:25 AM
guysss pls dnt drop recapping lie to me...:( eventhough it might happen,still im gonna watch this drama...:)
thnkss
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195 Liz
May 31, 2011 at 7:26 AM
I get people here like LTM, but to say ripley is boring just because isn't the kind of drama, style you like is too much.
LTM is boring too. If it wasn't the OTP this drama would suck BIG BIG TIME.
Stop saying about MSOAN. It didn't have a good plot but at least the OTP made more sense than in LTM where they kiss from nowhere and they even didn't know each other well.. the writter is just using the kiss to rise ratings which is pretty lame. The plot is so MEH, I give a shit to the evil friend, in MSOAN at least MK's friends drunk were funny, and the second male hot.
Here SH is a spolied kid who get's all pissed because things don't go his way.
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196 yaya
May 31, 2011 at 7:27 AM
I guess it's okay if you're not interested to continue. Thanks for the past recaps.
It's okay guys! we can still get all the delicious recaps from http://koalasplayground.com/. And they love LTM too!
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197 amberscube
May 31, 2011 at 7:31 AM
Though i have not watched this drama yet, i've been reading the recaps.
Can Miss Koala repost her recaps in dramabeans instead? If that is ok with her?
Thanks JV and GF for your harkwork.
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Pikachu
May 31, 2011 at 7:50 AM
why is it that hard to type in the URL?
SMH. tsk tsk
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jeanie65jh
May 31, 2011 at 8:07 AM
Hi Amber. Miss Koala has her own website where she posts her recaps. Simply go there to read them. There are links in these comments you can search to find it...click and go!
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198 Liz
May 31, 2011 at 7:34 AM
hum, and I don't where you are reading LTM to say the writter style isn't good.
If you are saying about Softy's recap I have to say is not her fault you don't enjoy her recap, because what she do is just write live what the characters did or told. She doesn't put her thoughts in the middle while writting her recap (because is live) so if you don't find it good is because the drama isn't good lol
Koala is liking better and better LTM, she even post like 4 post about the OTP, so I think you'll be happy there...
Ripley should and must have a chance to be recaped too!
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199 MEK
May 31, 2011 at 7:39 AM
I'm somewhat bummed about this - I usually watch the ones ya'll recap because I can watch the episodes raw and rely on your recap to understand...yeah i know...this is my addiction :(
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200 neketa
May 31, 2011 at 7:43 AM
I am in love with Lie to me please continue to recap
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