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Lie To Me: Episode 8 Open Thread

This episode in a nutshell (or, as I like to think of it, the weecap): Ah-jung takes care of Ki-joon when he’s sick (food-poisoned by her leftovers). She’s miffed when he doesn’t reply to her text, so Ki-joon admits that he didn’t know how to reply — if he said he was still sick, she’d worry, but if he said he was better, he was afraid she wouldn’t come to see him. Aw. He plays a joke on her by shaking her Coke behind her back, which causes it to explode, leading to a mini-food fight, pounding hearts, and an acknowledgement of their attraction. (Ah-jung: “Is this acting, or is this for real?” Ki-joon: “For real.”)

Alas, K-dramas never allow our happy couple to be happy very long before mucking up the works. Two complicators: Sang-hee and Auntie CEO. Sang-hee gets pissy to see the growing rapport between Ah-jung and Ki-joon, and tells her repeatedly that she’s misreading the situation. He tells his brother he’s really, truly over Yoon-ju and that hyung should be happy with her — his way of pushing his brother away from Ah-jung, whom he’s starting to like.

On the other hand, Auntie CEO steps in get rid of Yoon-ju, despite professing to liking her very much, because everybody in this drama thinks Sang-hee’s a poor, feeble-hearted child incapable of mature reasoning or of handling the disappointment of not getting the girl. DUDE. He may be your baby brother, but he’s still a grown-ass person. Let him deal. So Aunt calls them all together and reveals that Ki-joon and Ah-jung are secretly married. Ki-joon freaks out, chases Yoon-ju out (leaving Ah-jung behind), and reconciles with her. Phew! Boy gets around.

Ah-jung imagines the kissy reunion, is heartbroken and withdraws, blaming the lie on herself and telling the reunited couple that she’s happy for them, then bawls her heart out. And then she goes to So-ran — who has just heard that Ah-jung knows of her marital woes — and cops to the lie. Finally!

Comments: The lie is out — thank god! They’ve gotten about as much mileage out of it as can be reasonably expected, especially since the Chinese investors have now returned home. I actually think there’s a fun drama in here, but the problem is that it’s padded with so much useless filler material that the interesting stuff gets watered down and dragged out, thereby smothering what life the drama does have. (Triple-mixed-metaphor, woo!) It’s too bad that there’s so very little plot to keep the pace moving, and despite my great liking for the leads, there’s only so much dead weight that can be carried by chemistry alone.

I’m curious to see how the story changes after this — and hope that it doesn’t go off into a totally weird direction because the writer’s run out of ideas (I’m thinking I Am Legend, which turned into a different, much more tedious drama halfway through). I’m hopeful that with the lie now out in the open, we’ll finally make some narrative progress…although a part of me is nervous that it’ll just be angst city as the golden couple gets back together.

To be honest, I can’t even tell you what a relief it was to be able to watch Episodes 7 and 8 without the burden of recaps. It helps that this week’s episodes were better than last week’s, which at some points had me banging my head against my desk with frustration. But it’s also freeing to not be stuck having to recap the many boring filler scenes — the parental love triangle, the co-workers, So-ran’s tirades, which used to be fun but which are now getting tiresome, Sang-hee’s hot-and-cold angsting — because we all know that we’re basically just watching this drama for two reasons: Yoon Eun-hye and Kang Ji-hwan.

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The cola kiss looks stunning in every still. *sizzle, sizzle*

I love the weecap for this episode, JB! I'm glad it takes away the burden of a full recap when there's a ton of filler.

I'll be selfish, and just say that I hope you can continue for some more wee-caps....maybe a a 2-in-1 weecap (the episodes for each week together).

Thanks!

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JB. Thank You for your hard work! : O }

I think episode 8 is the best so far! It finally brings all things full circle. I think the main problem with LTM is the fact that KJH and YEH have such good Chem's together that out side of their performance the drama feels flat.

The second lead characters are very weak written, specially the little brother it reminds me of "Stars Falling From The Sky."

The second kiss I must admit that it is one of the best a have seen in a while, IMHO it is better than the dance floor kiss in "Secret Garden," what I like about YEH way of Kissing is that she totally commits to the kiss, thus making it realistic and beautiful to watched.

I am also glad that the truth is out in the open, and from this point on I hope the tone of the drama changes just a bit, but over all I am still enjoying this drama, I am commuted to see it till the end !!!!!

YEH Fighting!!!!!!!!!!!

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I want to see how the story line with Sung Hee is going to play out. Is it going to be history repeating itself with both of them liking Ah Jung?

That would be interesting because I am sure this time around neither of them will be willing to give her up.

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I usually read your recaps to check out your reaction and hilarious jokes anyway, so this for me is perfect - I get to weigh in, I get to hear your thoughts, but you don't have to do all that extra work of recapping all the scenes.

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First things first: I love you, Park Hoon. Adorable as always.

Gah, spoilers. I agree with a comment posted yesterday: If you read sites related to kdramas, there was no way you could escape of them. the cola kiss was everywhere. But the pictures were pretty good so i thought Yay
kiss!!
But NO! I felt nothing, I dont felt the desire to squee, It was well executed but nope, zero. I watched with a straight face and I watched it TWICE. Plus I basically skipped te last part, from when he run after his old girlfriend. I just read that part.
All the above have an explationation: I dont care about the OTP.
They look good, they are pretty and hot and have chemestry, but I cant buy it yet, and its already episode 8. Please, I want to buy it! Its much fun when you love the OTP, even when they blink you squee. Not this time. I hope this change.
Again the best was Kang Ji-hwan smiling and playing with his cell. Hehehe he was so funny doing nothing.
And he has a brother remember! Last episode he appeared 5 minutes and he confused me. But why? WHY? why he has to like Ah-jung? I know this time Ki-joon will fight back. He must.
And the lie ended. The didnt squeez it enough for my taste, they could have used it a better way. But Its good that it ended.

Thank you for the weecap!

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When SH met AJ, didn't he say to himself "the world is much better now that he's back" while she was looking right at AJ in the bar, and also when they were on the street and AJ was walking away, he said "if I make her stop then it's destiny". He was attracted to AJ at first sight, an attraction that started off as friendship. He was more drawn to her personality than anything else. And I understand why he was mad when he saw KJ and AJ at KJ's house, he doesn't want AJ to fall in love with KJ because he knows that KJ is still in love with YJ. SH is protecting AJ. He's been helping her, hasn't he? He's her fairy godmather. SH is slowly getting over YJ without him knowing it because of AJ. And that is also why he wants KJ and YJ to be reunited. If he wanted to redeem himself because he's feeling guilty that he is the reason of KJ & YJ's cancelled engagement, he would have done it earlier. But no, he's only consenting to it now because he doesn't want AJ to be entangled in a love triangle that might hurt AJ later on.

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In episode 7 I thought that the one he was trying to "protect" was Yoon-ju. I thought that he want his brother back with her and Ah-jung was interfering and thats why he was angry. I mean not angry because Ah-jung would get hurt, angry because if she keptaround Ki-joon he would fall for her and he wouldn't return with Yoon-ju and
Yoon-ju would be hurt.
With your comment I understand he likes her from before, but i really really hope they stay in the friendship zone. Maybe this time he only likes her but he wont do anything more and they will be just friends. The bad thing: Its episode 8 and the writer can lose it.

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

You beat me to Park Hoon. :'(

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kya, i want another cola kiss RIGHT NOW! the chemistry is so undeniably believable, heck i think these two should just ditch the drama and get married and give us adorable babies to look at, i always thought i'd only love her with jihoon but,... alas, the cola kiss has stolen my heart... it felt so real? oh i don't know, !!!! love the new idea!

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Thank you!

I wasn't expecting this.I am just off work and off to watch ep 8 partly subbed.

What's with all the comments about the noisy kissing?Really...can I fast fw to the kiss?

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didn't know the lil' bro was acting like that because he had a thing for Ah-jung.

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So sad, most of the comments are all about how good she kissed !

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I second the "I love Park Hoon" sentiment!!! I am totally on the PARK HOON FOR THE WIN bus!

He is the only secondary character worth a damn in the entire series! So adorable...especially when he did the puppy face to get KJH to watch the melodrama...Hahaha

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Yay! PARK HOON FOR THE WIN!

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Just finish watching Ep8 raw and reading all the comments. Enjoyed YEH and KJW's interactions. I feel for YEH at the end of this episode. She bravely accepted the consequence of the built up lies and was kindhearted enough to not be spiteful. Such a classy lady deserves KJW's respect and love. I'm hoping that the ending of this episode is only a misunderstanding on GAJ's part. She did not give him a chance to talk when he chased after her from OYJ's place. Guessing: KJW did not hug OYJ back because he made a decision that he cannot reciprocate her feeling and he has started to like having GAJ in his life. KJW and OYJ's overnight outing was a chance for them to talk things through for friendship and old time's sake. KJW obviously is very attracted to GAJ and he feels the pull the two leading ladies in his life. He was so stressed out on the choice he must make to be getting sick like that. Notice after the airport trip seeing how GAJ's genuine affection for Chairman Chen's wife and the praise he received from the Chairman on his good wife, he started to open up to GAJ and has a smile in his face, looking somewhat abash, but happier. He even said good morning to his secretary and staff. Well, this is my conjecture on the writer's intention for all the hints being dropped along the way. I have to believe in this for my heart not to be in such pain when YEH cried at the end of Ep8.

Thank you for allowing us to vent, and thank you for all your hardwork. Did not want you to stop the recapping but I understand the choices you must make.

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I'm starting to believe KJH is going to make me watch through anything. :P Before, I never thought it possible I can watch a series because of the leads, but if every episode had a hot kiss in it, I'm never jumping the boat. Haha.

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In reference to Sang Hee, I think he is very jealous of HKJ because the ladies he likes are both smitten with Hyung. He likes GAJ and feels bad for her, but his loyalty is to OYJ. I can see that although not in-love with GAJ, SH still did not want his big brother to poach on his turf. He is becoming the black knight to protect OYJ's happiness (be it with his brother or himself). I hope he does not become heartless towards GAJ and do things to intentionally hurt her so that OYJ's wedding plan to HKJ can proceed. If he does then he's not the emotional but sensitive and caring man I thought of him. Also, the President/Chairman Aunt may have a change of heart for GAJ. But I am still mad that for such a strong businessman, HKJ cannot find words to express himself to his brother and GAJ. What to do !!!!

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Javabeans!!!!!! Weecap. Ingenious.

Glad the lie is out finally. I hope the writer have other plot points up her sleeve. Too painful to watch YEH and KJH just doing their best on that one tired and flimsy lie. Electric combustion gone to waste.

Please, producers out there, can you please get this couple to work on another drama? Suggested title: Be Honest with Me.

Tee-hee-hee.

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Cola kiss was SO much better than expected from the previews. And how he held her hand afterwards? :D

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thank you for the wee-cap...love it... i know the hard work u guys put in for us crazy kdrama fans and i appreciate it alot...
i didnt like the first few ep of "lie to me"...[and even stopped watching last week] however now i'm hooked (to quote java beans "im cheap that way" hehehe...) the chemistry between kjh and yeh is sizzling hot...now i cant wait for ep 9...
hope u are recapping city hunter [pleaseeeee]....coz these two drama's i cant[wont] miss for the world :)

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*Keep looking at the screencap*

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I finally understand why this drama is so bad! The screenwriter is Kim Ye-ri (김예리) who is also the same screenwriter for "Heading to the Ground", the horrible drama that featured Yunho and Go Ara - the soccer one? No friggin' wonder. I keep wondering what if the plot was more interesting and less predictable. Wednesday where are you? Can you please come quickly?

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m so looking forward to the kiss. frankly i'm rather sick of SH, such a PIA. So you ruin yr bro's happiness then and u want to ruin it again now? Grow up man.

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Where is Episode 7 Recap? And why is it that Episode 8 is not a blow by blow account? I am sorry, I know this sound so very demanding. But, this is so sudden. We are following every drama you recapped and then it suddenly stopped. Hahay!

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Please continue ur recaps......loving it :)

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Loved the Ice Cream song. It's keeps running in my brain.Also, the Coke-food fight scene looked like fun and was hilarious.Finally, they do a meaniful kiss, no act in front of her friends. OMG, what a lip-lock! HOT! My computer started to steam over. kekekeke.

Just couldn't stand the scene with Ah-Jung and Yoon Ju.Ki-Joon just sits there like as major A**. Yoon Eun Hye can really cry, and she made me so upset that I had to get out the kleenex too.

Finally, no more lies please. I hope the story picks up momentum and Yoon Ju gets the boot from Auntie and Ki-Joon. Yoon Ju expects to come back after 3 years and thinks nothing has changed. She should realize that the ship has left the dock, and she is left onshore. Hope Ki-Joon realizes his mistake soon that he has chosen the wrong woman.

Thank you for the mini recaps. Please keep it up.

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*smacks Sanghee* Why do YOU always get to choose the gir? You're a grown ass man, go woo the girl yourself!

*smacks Kijoon* You don't kiss other girls like that if you are in love with YJ! Get it through your thick head that the past is past!

OK, I'm done.

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Amen.

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where's the episode 7? :)) thanks for doing this! i really love YEH.. :))

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Thanks so much for this weecap! What a great idea!While I agree that this isn't the best drama out there, it beats the heck out of American TV these days, thus, here I am. I have a bad case of re-fresh-itis Monday - Thursday. If anyone has a cure, please let me know. I'll be over in the corner...

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Does anyone realize that the cola kiss happened after ah jung just woke up, with morning breath+alcohol breath+and maybe vomit breath? :S

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Haha. I was like, she totally didn't brush her teeth, dude. And coke makes it even worse. But then again, maybe she did after she "freshened" up in the restroom.

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I'm starting to think that's a trend in this drama, lol.

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I thought this was better paced than Secret Garden tbh, the fillers aren't as original as SC but the couple scenes are more natural to watch. There're also less of the "I like you, but I hate you" see-sawing. Both leads were honest with their feelings from the get-go, or at least tried to be. But, LTM lacks complications so it's really just a very generic rom-com in disguise. Understandably, it must be hard for JB to recap all the boring nuances. I think the weecap is a great idea, less burden on her and/or GF, less complaining for us.

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Coca Cola sales may have just risen by over 50% worldwide just by this scene alone. How many want to do the same with their one true pair? Let me guess 100% +.

Thanks for the weecap Javabeans, this works best for all of us. Take care.

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I guess, I'm from the .01% who did not.

Was I the only one worrying if he has carpet for flooring? Playing in the kitchen was fine - he had tiles, but when they moved towards the living area, I was waiiit... soda is sticky. ha.ha.

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I confess.... when I heard there was going to be a cola kiss, I imagined that they would be in a total lip lock and he would have a coke burp!

I'm so glad it wasn't so!! LOL

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i like this weecap (hihi) idea on this drama. thumbs up ;)

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I like how the fact that the lie comes out also re-affirms Ah-jung's feelings for Ki-joon . . . I just wish that things could go more smoothly for them ^^

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I feel like dropping this drama already after watchign episode 1!!! it's just so k drama like i can already predict what's going to happen
the main reason i'm still considering watching is the main actor!!!
the story sucks...

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Thanks for the open thread.

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well the big reason why I watched k-drama it's simple and story-line are not so much of entertwine, Likewise I love the way PD choose the characters for every drama I view and watched sincerely.
But for this drama I don't like the second lead woman for Han ji Hwan sorry I don't feel the chemistry for them.
She is very dry in here role and became awkward to watch her trying her best.

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Thank you!! Short recap, are you going to start doing your recaps like this? :(

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I really liked the last 2 episodes plot and narrative wise. It has now thrown out the flimsy premise needed to keep our OTP together and given them enough ground to know how special each is to the other.

I must be one of the few ones who is really happy that HKJ went to YJ, but I think it is necessary that HKJ needs to realise that he only cares for YJ almost like a friend/dongsaeng. Only when he is with her, can he contemplate that AJ brings out his true passion, inner self and complete honesty. Also he will now fight to win AJ's trust which has been twice broken, so he needs to work really hard to win her. This fight will make a man out of SH (hopefully) as HKJ will now move beyond protecting his brother, hope he raises the stake to get the lady who has captured his heart now.

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whoah, so that was it? that was the cola kiss???
didn't anyone think that was kind of short or was cut short?

you'd think of something else when they hold hand like that right after that there had to be ....more....
that they'd need to 'clean' up, right? so why didn't they? (like shower together)

or is that too R rated?

what's actually good about YEH is that she gives it all, without restrictions, she makes all of the scenes believable, she makes herself be that girl and how that girl would act, react and kiss with all her heart!

thanks for the miniCap...still would continue with this...
thanks for this thread, i can read everyone elses' comments...

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Yay ^_^ So glad you're still sort of kind of recapping this one! Despite the circular plot points and character antics I'm still holding out for this one.

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I don't think that Sang Hee actually started to like Ah jung. Rather, he actually wants his brother and Yoon ju to be tgt because he has matured and wants to do some amendments.

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Whatever, I am still watching every episode of it. Anyway, your recaps are not that good. It's always full of angst...lol.

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Awesome Episode, AWESOME KISS. Ahaha I'm looking forward to getting past all of this angst and getting back to the loving! Though this angst is inevitable!

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Is it just me or are their kisses so awesomely hot?

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The coke fight was cute, I just feel sorry for the maid who has to clean up that sticky mess. LOVED THE KISSING scene setup (with the light pouring in from the windows woot woot!) & acting in the scene~~

Yoon Joo's character never gave Sang Hee (the man) a chance. But Sang Hee should be manly in front of her and fight for her love instead of just intimidating her for it.

YES AUNTY! Three strikes eh? I thought that she was going to put the money envelope in front of Ah Jung but this conflict is much better.

Ki Joon, you cannot have both!! Yoon Ju is awesome but if Ki Joon was going to pick her he would have fought harder for her the fight time. I don't know if he has the fight within him for this time as well. I think that he is just stalling (*yells* COWARD!)

The last scene with Ah Jung/Ki Joon/Yoon Ju was awkward for life! Would have just jumped into my car on that one. I wanted to punch him in the face so hard during the ending! But yeah, never the face. Lucky that Ah Jung didn't never crash her car after that shock.

So Ran is out of her mind, stop beating him and just divorce! Is Ah Jung your mother-in-law? Who cares if she knows?? Finally the (official) lie is no more but now we are left with lovers lies.

Till next week!~~

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Is it me or did that coke scene totally look like something out of The Notebook?

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I too love the "wee-cap"!! Being one of the shows biggest fans, I'm glad you guys dropped full recaps of it since the storyline was getting tedious and subs come out fast anyways. Best to recap what you enjoy and can analyze :)

YEH - you made me cry with Ah Jung today :( :( Her character seemed so real in this episode. I think it's cause I seen somewhat similar situations in real life (minus the chaebol, fake marriage, and of course hottie KJH). In the last 2 episodes, they seemed like a real couple - exploring, anticipating, and all the things that 2 people do as they fall for each other.

Cola Kiss -- hilarious! Well, I really thought the actually cola part was super funny. KJH's reaction is hilarious as is YEH's. Kiss was smoking hot too.

SH - urgh - not really liking him. I can't figure out what's up. I don't want a repeat of history.

HKJ - I did want to go into the TV and slap that boy silly. How can he not say anything to AJ in front of YJ. YJ just spoke to AK that way? Really??? I am not a fan of the confused guy over 2 girls. I understand AJ's reaction - I mean I would have reacted that way too if I were her. I don't think AJ wanted to appear desperate about KJ. KJ has a lot of redeeming to do in my eyes.

I'm emotionally invested in the 2 characters - of course cause of YEH and KJH. Ah-Ki couple - fighting! I want to see jealous KJ (for AJ). Where is he?

I hope it's not a MNIKSS repeat either - where he has to go to his ex to do yada yada yada. Urgh!!

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Seriously! You people! I thought I can wait for subs!
But all your comments just make me wanna see the cola kiss NOW!

*resigns herself to the inevitable and goes of to watch raw*

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JB and GF - THIS WEECAP IS AWESOME!!

Its awesome fun and just what this drama deserves!

Though am still on lie to me ship completely, its just a drama with excellent cast, a story filled with potential, but real bad writing and directing!!

This drama definitely doesn't deserve a recap!

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I don't really understand the get drunk and go to guy's house and undress yourself part....what was that all about?!

And for a guy who keeps his house ubber clean and tidy - I can't believe that Ki Joon would deliberately spill COKE all over his prestige floors! Did anyone notice how much COKE there is in the bottle any way?

Ok...me OCD and will stop here now~

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In the past I don't like to watch k-movies because i think it's all tragedy ...but it turns out the opposite because right now,Daisy, A Moment to Remember, Daddy Long Legs and The Classic are one of my favorite k-dramas ever. That's because I have come to realize that it's the reality, we can't avoid death, what is important is how we make a happy and beautiful story when we are alive.
And just now that I come to enjoy watching a show with a happy mood despite being "illogical" you've decided to drop it...i'm a little disappointed...but as i've said in my older post just write with passion and out of love...continue because you love to and your enjoying it and not for just fan service...cause when you write just for the sake of it, the reader's taste the "COLDNESS"...and I in particular can taste it in the above post. There is nothing wrong for being rational and fair recappers stating the "pros" and "cons" out of a drama but it's just not me,cause when i like a drama i'm like, I LIKE IT period., disregarding ratings and reviews...so if you don't like it it's better drop it now coz "you don't like it" period and don't ask for if you should or not...cause it's you...when you do something do it out of love...thanks...these are the words i just want to say...but still I am dissapointed...

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if you two can't do it, then get a guest writer to recap it like all the other dramas you guys dont cover!

why single out Lie To Me?
you know you're getting the hits and comments cos of this drama so why be selfish and not let someone else cover it if you dont want it?

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why dont YOU get a guest writer to do it?
why dont you create a kdrama blog?
why dont you stop coming here so she doesnt get the "hits and comments"
better yet why dont you write those recaps yourself.

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I think 'teddy' jux want to make a suggestion u don't have to get all work up. I understand both of u. Teddy knows that there r still people who want to read the recap for LTM that's all. N I totally understand u too cause since dramabean & gf are doing alot of recapping already n they have a life too so it is totally reasonable for them to drop it.
here I want to say l love u dramabean & girlfriday

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