Secret Garden: Episode 19
by javabeans
We’re almost there! Phew, what a roller-coaster journey this drama has been, and this episode is no different — it takes us from one extreme to another, serving up some silly moments, light romantic beats, cute comedy, and then more melodrama with lots of angsty tears. Talk about a wild ride.
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EPISODE 19 RECAP
Ra-im pulls back as Joo-won asks if they’ve kissed before. She starts reciting Joo-won’s “Kim su-han-mu, the tortoise and the crane…” chant, saying that she’s protecting him till his memory comes back, like he’d protected her.
He balks at the frank way she speaks to him, but she’s unruffled and tells her not to order her around. Plus, if he wants to see her, then he should come to her, rather than having her summoned. Why could she not be this assertive with the 34-year-old Joo-won? In any case, 21-year-old Joo-won is startled and even backs up, which is hilarious.
He instructs her to move her stuff here until he figures out why he likes her — and later, to leave upon his say-so. Nice that his sense of romance is still intact.
Ra-im goes one step further by casually offering to be the Little Mermaid and disappear into bubbles. She tells him to think it over, and leaves.
He has no idea what to with her, and her newfound confidence in their love just compounds his confusion. From outside, she turns back to give him a jaunty wave, and Joo-won wonders, “Why is her smile so pretty?”
He chases her down to offer a ride, and she asks why it took him so long to catch up, as she was walking extra slowly and “looking totally pretty from the back.” Gah, maybe Joo-won left his conceit behind in her body after the last swap.
At the action school, Ra-im hears disappointing news: the Dark Blood crew have opted to go for a Hong Kong actress instead. She bears the news well and optimistically says that just getting the role was enough to fulfill her dream.
Jong-soo tells Joo-won not to forget who Ra-im is, or that he put up his own life for her. That confuses Joo-won, who asks himself, “I risked my life for a short-legged woman like that?”
Despite the cheery face in front of her teammates, Ra-im is more disheartened about losing the job than she let on, and she broods alone in the locker room, remembering all the work she’d put into the project. Joo-won finds her there and can see that the movie was important to her; she tells him that he’d made the miracle happen for her, and apologizes since it didn’t work out.
Joo-won takes this moment to ask Ra-im about one of her habits (how she makes use of leftover soap pieces), and she starts to reply before realizing that there’s no way that this (amnesiac) Joo-won would know that. He explains that he’d seen it in her locker, then realizes he hasn’t.
At this sign that his memory might be trickling back, Ra-im waits anxiously while he thinks, trying to recall more things… like Ra-im wearing sexy lingerie. Which earns him a swift kick to the shin.
Seul finds Tae-sun staying at Oska’s place, and they engage in a round of not-quite-jealous-sparring, with Tae-sun smirking that he didn’t leave Korea because Oska kept him back. He even pointedly asks Seul’s age, which raises her hackles — is the pretty boy actually trying to suggest he’s more appealing because he’s younger than her?
Oska joins them, as clueless as ever, and merely tells Seul that he’s gotta keep Tae-sun nearby in case he runs away. Seul snaps, “And what if I run away?”
He takes her aside for some business talk — he’s resuming activities with his new album and an MV — and Seul asks Oska if Tae-sun is gay. She’s shocked that Oska knew all this while, but he still hasn’t put two and two together and says that it’s “not like that” between them. Seul is sharper to pick up on the vibe and says that his thick-headedness is why he goes around hurting people without knowing it.
Joo-won interrupts the conversation, and is immediately taken with Seul’s beauty, to Oska’s disgruntlement. Joo-won flatters her while Oska blusters that she’s not for him, and she gets to enjoy the reversal of being the object of jealousy, rather than the one feeling it. Heh.
Mom drops by, and Joo-won tells her about the girlfriend he has discovered he has. Mom is pleased at Joo-won’s assessment of Ra-im as lacking feminine coyness and having only a so-so figure.
He can see from her reaction that she dislikes Ra-im, and she asks eagerly, “If I say I don’t like her, will you stop dating her?” But no, Joo-won shakes his head like a little boy and replies, “No~ope. I like her.”
Joo-won asks his mother about the firefighter who’d saved him from the elevator, wondering if it would be too strange to pop up now, 13 years later, to thank the man. Mom’s smile falters and she uneasily says that he shouldn’t since she already took care of it, but agrees to look up his information to satisfy him.
Ah-young is shocked to hear that her dreams were right-on, because she dreamt another one last night, and it was spooky enough that she’s afraid of sharing it.
Pressed to answer, Ah-jung explains dreaming of a tall black door, in front of which three children wearing white were crying. Joo-won was also on the side crying, while Ra-im yelled. Upon waking, Ah-jung had been filled with foreboding.
Joo-won calls Ra-im for some spa time, declaring that his purpose is to check out her figure. Oh, boys and their one-track minds.
She gets annoyed when he says he’s done this with other women, though she gets back at him by insinuating that she’s also had quite a bit of experience with men. She repeats the comments he’d misinterpreted at their first meeting (about men liking to “do it” on roofs and in cars, when she’d been referring to stunts and he’d assumed she meant more frisky activity).
Joo-won retorts that she can’t fool him with the same line twice — another slip that reveals that he’s getting back snippets of his memory.
She’s so happy that she hugs him, and he says suggestively that he might be on the cusp of remembering other things… while trailing his hand lower down her back. Incorrigible.
Ra-im twists his arm (literally), pinning it painfully behind his back, and shows him a more accurate representation of what their physical relationship was like. (I know that it’s a funny gag for this moment, but is anyone else bothered about the actual truth in that statement?)
When Joo-won drops her off at her place later that night, his reaction is just as it was the first time. Horrified that he’d be involved with someone so poor, he tells her to erase his number from her phone, and immediately leaves.
Oska loves Tae-sun’s song and ruffles his hair affectionately, which earns him an annoyed glare. I know Tae-sun may end up with a bruised heart, but I do love all the double entendres and hidden meanings in their interactions — meanings to which Oska remains solidly oblivious.
Joo-won comes in — wearing his blue tracksuit, earning him a round of mocking from both Oska and Tae-sun — and asks his cousin about what kind of woman Ra-im is. Oska starts to answer that she’s his fan, and hearing that is enough for Joo-won to decide that she won’t do. Ha.
It’s time for another Mom face-off as Seul meets with Oska’s mother, but this one thankfully yields much more instant gratification than the angst of that other Mom. Oska’s mother is insulted that Seul would date Joo-won and then switch to Oska, and starts to tell her off.
Oska arrives and asks his mother to back off, defending Seul, but that just earns him a whack on the head with Mom’s purse. She heaps disapproving scorn onto her son and raises her hand a second time to knock some sense into him… only to find her hand blocked in midair.
Both mother and son are stunned at Seul’s audacity, but she holds firm and merely suggests they talk things out over drinks. And so the trio relocates to a bar, to duke things out the Korean way: showdown by liquor.
Seul and Mom take turns taking shots — both in the drinking sense, and the verbal offense sense, volleying back and forth. I love that while these two ladies trade barbs, Oska sits there meekly, pouring drinks and trying to stay out of it, not wanting to get caught in the crossfire between his two women.
The mood takes a turn when Mom takes out her facial spray, worried that the alcohol will dry out her skin, and Seul notes that this is a habit they share. She takes her own spray out, and then Seul and Mom actually bond over their cosmetics preferences.
Oska can’t believe this — they’ve gone from fighting over him to acting like spa buddies, and when he complains, Mom just asks, “Are you still here?” Seul tells him that if he’s bored, he could sing (meaning: Get out of our hair and go occupy yourself with the karaoke, boy). LMAO.
In fact, Seul and Mom are still drinking later when he arrives home. He receives some good news, though — he’s been contracted as a spokesperson advocating nonsmoking, which means his public image has recovered and his days of hardship are over.
Oska drops by the action school to check on Ra-im and ask how things are with 21-year-old Joo-won. Ra-im answers that she finds him and his youthful energy adorable, even with his pervy tendencies. He’s also starting to remember in bits and pieces, which is promising.
Oska drives her home, and they banter back and forth in their mock-flirtatious way like they used to — until Joo-won interrupts to say, “What a pretty picture.” Just like old times indeed.
Joo-won protests at their cozy vibe — didn’t she say she loved him? What are they doing together? Thoroughly enjoying this, Ra-im links arms with Oska and invites “oppa” in for tea while Joo-won ineffectually demands an explanation.
Standing at a distance is Mom’s personal secretary, who has grown tired of this constant routine (you’re not the only one, buddy) and wishes dearly that Joo-won could be better about avoiding the secretary’s surveillance. The secretary reluctantly takes out his phone to report to Mom, who actually has the temerity to blame the Gils for forcing her to “stoop this low” for her next move. Responsibility, she knows not what it is.
While Ra-im fixes Oska coffee, Joo-won complains about the Oska poster hanging on her wall. But he gets back at them by saying that if Ra-im and Oska date, then he can have Seul (with her 36-24-34 measurements) — a comment that raises the hackles of both.
Mom calls Joo-won (in time to break up a brewing fight as Oska kicks Joo-won in retaliation) to admit the “truth” about the firefighter. She says that he was Ra-im’s father, but also that Ra-im had used this knowledge to bind Joo-won to her, preying on his guilty conscience.
Joo-won asks Oska to leave them alone, and gets straight to the point. Did her father’s death have anything to do with his accident? She confirms it, and tells him that to explain everything that happened between them would make for a very long story (and don’t we know it).
She starts to tell him the whole truth, but he declines to hear it, saying coolly that this is something he’ll have to remember on his own. If it’s true that she tricked him before and is trying to trick him now, he might fall for it again.
He goes home to work things through, and asks his housekeeper why she doesn’t clear away the cash on his bedside table. She answers that he’d been very attached to the 45,000 won, in addition to a few other items.
He sits there pondering the pile of seemingly random objects stacked in front of him, wondering what he could have possibly valued so dear about that vacuum, or basket of tangerines, or women’s clothing.
He calls Secretary Kim to ask about them, but Secretary Kim wails in frustration, “How am I to know that?”
In a bit of self-parody, Ah-young happens to get cappuccino foam on her lip, and Secretary Kim recognizes that as his chance to make a move. Offering to wipe it for her, he leans in and kisses her — only the reaction he gets is not as romantic as he’d hoped. Ah-young shoves him back and throws water in his face for kissing her without her permission, and he pouts that the guys never wait for permission in the movies. Yeah, well that’s the price you pay for thinking that scenes in dramas are acceptable real-life behavior.
Oska calls Seul out to take her for a walk, ignoring her protests that people will see since that that’s the point. Taking her hand, he walks with his head held high while bystanders gawk, and when people ask questions, he declares frankly that he’s dating Seul. He tells Seul that this is their first time walking outside holding hands, like a normal couple.
A few petulant fangirls complain that this is betrayal, but he says he wants to date too — he’s 36, not an idol boy — and urges them to jump ship to 2PM or Beast instead. LOL.
In his library, Joo-won finds the page left in his copy of Alice in Wonderland, and now the last line has been altered, with lines added:
“The Little Mermaid was about to disappear, and at that moment, the prince realized the truth and said to the princess, ‘Is this the best you can do? Are you sure?’ and broke off the engagement. He ran to the Little Mermaid, but she’d noticed the water bubbles and developed an air-bubble washing machine and became a chaebol. Meanwhile, the prince went broke with a bad investment and became the Little Mermaid’s Secretary Kim, and they lived a long, long, really looooong time.”
OMG. That’s priceless.
Joo-won initially scoffs at this childish story, ready to dismiss it, but then recognizes his own handwriting. Puzzling over that, he recalls Ra-im’s offer to turn into the Little Mermaid, and finally, that does the trick — it triggers his memories, which come flooding back to him.
Joo-won races outside, heading for Ra-im while his brain releases fragments in quick succession. They come in a barrage, in reverse order, starting with the most recent memories and finally landing on one we haven’t yet seen — from the firefighter’s funeral thirteen years ago, when a teenage Ra-im had sobbed for her father. That last one stuns him, because it’s one that’s been repressed for the last thirteen years (as opposed to the past week).
When he shows up at her door, she thinks he’s still upset about the news of her father and starts to explain. To her surprise, he grabs her in a hug, which awakens the hope that he’s recovered his memory.
However, Joo-won deflates her hopes by telling her that he hasn’t remembered, and furthermore, he announces that he’s planning to go on another blind date with another bride candidate. He says that the more she insists that they were in love, the more he can’t believe it, since she’s not his type.
Ra-im looks at him with hurt and confusion, as he tells her that she’s pretty dumb not to catch on — of course he remembers, that’s why he’s here.
Realizing that he was just pulling her leg, Ra-im starts to cry, which startles him enough that he apologizes for teasing.
He kisses her on the forehead, and tells her, “I love you. That one’s mine.” She’s still smarting from the lie and calls him a jerk, so he repeats the kiss and adds, “I really love you. That’s your father’s.”
Now that his entire memory is intact, Joo-won relates the story of his accident, when he’d been stuck inside that elevator with an injured leg, fearing that he was going to die. As Ra-im’s father had gone to check for more survivors, he’d prayed that prayer for safety.
When the doors opened, Joo-won saw a firefighter holding out a hand. But with his leg injury, he couldn’t reach, so the man had entered the elevator and given him oxygen. While the elevator had shaken on its unsteady cables, the doors had slammed shut and Ra-im’s father had radioed for help. Ra-im’s father had used his axe to force the doors open, and lifted Joo-won out.
Joo-won had reached down to pull Dad up, just as the elevator started to shake. Immediately Ra-im’s father had known he wouldn’t make it, and perhaps Joo-won had sensed it too, because he had grabbed the man’s hand even tighter and begged him to climb up.
Ra-im’s father, however, had pulled his hand out of his grasp, knowing that if held onto it, both of them might die. He’d insisted that Joo-won escape to safety, ignoring Joo-won’s sobs, and asked him to tell his daughter that he loved her.
With the cable ready to snap, Dad had shoved Joo-won back — just as the elevator crashed down the shaft into flames.
Ra-im sobs as Joo-won finishes the story, ending on her father’s last words and apologizing for taking so long to pass along the message. Ra-im tells him it’s okay and thanks him for letting her know how much she was loved.
Together, they visit Dad’s memorial vault to pay their respects, and Joo-won again apologizes (this time to Dad) for being so slow to convey his last words. In fact, he’d tried once before to pass along the message, but had been unable to — he means the day he’d seen Ra-im sobbing at the funeral, but Ra-im looks at him curiously at the comment.
Joo-won thanks Dad for saving him and asks for his daughter’s hand, promising to make her happy for the rest of her life.
Afterward, he wonders (with an uncertainty that is endearing) whether her father would’ve liked him, and seems genuinely upset when she says no — why would he like the guy who’s always making his daughter cry?
She tells him there’s only one way to remedy that — for them to love each other like crazy. He smiles at that, because that’s one task they’ve got well covered.
Joo-won’s mother expresses her joy at the return of Joo-won’s memory, but her smile fades when he asks pointedly if she’s truly happy rather than fearful. He trusted her, “But you were bad till the end.” Not only did she act wrongly to him and Ra-im, but to herself as well by making up such a horrible lie.
She shrills, “So what of that stupid little lie?” He replies evenly, “You weren’t always right, but when you weren’t being right, you were still always confident and cool. I loved that mother. But this time, you’ve lost both your confidence and me. So from now on, I won’t live as your son. I’m truly sorry, but I’ve lived as your son for 34 years. For the rest of my life, I’ll live as her husband.”
COMMENTS
I sort of think this drama has a Monet-like effect — from a distance it’s pretty and seems to have all the elements of an engaging, addicting drama, like the beautiful scenery, wonderful acting, engaging music, pretty color palette, and so on. It’s up close that things start to fall apart a bit, particularly when we’re talking about plot logic — like the whole body-swapping gimmick, the magical element, the various different amnesias that Joo-won suffers. And, most frustratingly, the whole Mom-opposition dance. WE GET IT. Mom no likey the girlfriends. That’s really been the core conflict this whole drama through, and when even her secretary sighs from fatigue at this never-ending storyline, I wanted to tell him sympathetically, “Believe me, I’m right there with ya, dude.”
That aside, I’m thankful that people are FINALLY standing up to her, although Joo-won’s already stood up to her before on more than one occasion. But this time Ra-im is there with him, after having gotten her father’s permission to stop bowing her head apologetically (not that I see why she couldn’t have held her head high before that last wine-drinking dream).
But it’s more fun to think about the things I liked about this episode, like the Seul/Tae-sun showdown (mild though it was), and the Seul/Mom showdown (which was GREAT), and most of all, Joo-won’s awesome amendment to his Little Mermaid story. Truth be told, despite Hyun Bin’s awesome portrayal of Joo-won I haven’t really liked the character for much of the drama (and for an even more unpopular opinion, I haven’t really liked Ra-im much either — definitely not much until recent episodes).
But the story revision shows growth on his part, and I love that not only did he essentially concede that his whole Little Mermaid analogy was utter bunk, he reworked it to elevate Ra-im, to make her (well, the Little Mermaid) a self-made woman who created her own success. He didn’t just have the Little Mermaid marry a chaebol to become a chaebol through marriage, but made her a chaebol through her own effort.
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51 PickmePICKME
January 15, 2011 at 10:35 PM
I can not get over the part (and im using my own words):
JW: You have my number right?
RI: Yeah
JW: Lose it
BAhahahahha so funny. Mean, but funny as heck. What a bastard thing to do. Hahahahahah too funny. Ahh I'm glad it's ending, someone still need to slap joo-wons mom, Do it!!! Aww I love oska and seul, they were fun. Tae Sun was cool, especially to look at.
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52 iamnoodledoodle
January 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM
I really love Secret Garden.. It has all the elements that made me hooked! I will surely miss this show. ^-^
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53 Bits
January 15, 2011 at 10:38 PM
I LOVED Kim Joo-won for the entire run of the series -- and Hyun Bin, even more so, as he played the part so wonderfully. I loved his transition from old-joowon to 21-year-old joowon and back; I think it's his eyes, or his posture, but when I see the screencaps of the two Joowon versions, they're like two completely different people. (Or maybe I'm just overthinking things..)
Ra-Im..well.. her newfound confidence seems a little cheesy, but I don't think it's that "far-fetched" for her character.
The Evil Mom arc has been running for so long, though. Joowon's final speech hopefully knocked some sense to her.
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54 Jewels
January 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Thanks JB and GF for the recaps. I fell in love with this drama from the beginning caught up in an emotional roller coaster along with the characters JW and GI. I have to give a standing ovation to the entire production team and cast who worked effortlessly over the last 100+ days in the hellish cold weather that actors did not escape be it that they were outdoors or indoors. Thanks!
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55 drama-mama
January 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM
Thanks for the speedy recap! I totally love the episode especially the way Seul stands up to Oska's mom!
Love the little ways in which the table is now turned on Joo Won and yes, his pre-pubescent, hormone-raging 21 self is so funny and endearing to watch! Love it when HJW takes on noona-like ways to tackle him. So cute!
The memory flashbacks were very clever and I totally cried my eyes out watching the lift rescue scene. Not sure about you guys but I think the sadness in RI's eyes, which JW witnessed 13 years ago when he peeped into the father's wake could have jolted him when he first met her and saw her in all her intensity when she did her fighting scene. Maybe it was in his head all this while but he simply consciously surpressed it.
I am hoping that ep 20 will be good. AY's dream doesn't bode too well... I still hope to see some kind of confrontation between step grandma supporting the couple and irritating JW **itchy mom! That would be her come-uppance!
I am so going to miss this drama. So far My Princess looks promising as a replacement but the plot seems quite predictable especially with how clear cut the characters are portrayed in the first 4 ep.
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halfmoon
January 15, 2011 at 11:01 PM
I totally agree about MP.
So far, I'm liking it, but not loving it. I don't seem too eager to watch the new episodes,and have actually fast-forwarded or skipped a few scenes. The plot seems predictable, and the characters' personalities don't seem unusually interesting/different to me.
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roza
January 16, 2011 at 12:39 AM
yeahhhh,, me three
i like MP but i didn't love it -yet-
i'm in love with SG from the very first scene ;D
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56 Lol
January 15, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Seem like nobody" what you think " anymore.. Nobody care what how bad u think this drama is... They just want to read recap aka translate..
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Daniela
January 15, 2011 at 11:10 PM
Um I have to disagree with you. I´ll speak for me. If I only want the translated episodes there are another blogs where I can read them. I really
love to read the things they have to say about the episodes and confront them with my
own thoughts (plus, they make me laugh). That’s me. But you’re welcome to think what you want. Greetings!
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Gummie
January 16, 2011 at 7:03 PM
no, you're not the only one. I like Dramabeans' recaps for they give pretty good analytical comments on the shows. I don't always agree with their opinions but I can see where they come from, and it's always interesting to see contradicting thoughts. On the other hand, whenever I'm in desperate need for some constructive criticism (in case everybody seems to absolutely loves what I can't), I know where I can look for some. I guess their recaps can get very snarky for some people, but I personally don't mind it.
BTW, I think comments like those above are just hilariously immature. They make me laugh so I don't mind them either ROFL
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maria
January 16, 2011 at 12:10 AM
OMG ROOD.
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57 Ani
January 15, 2011 at 10:44 PM
Oska and Tae-sun is the cutest couple ever. <3
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Elle
January 15, 2011 at 10:56 PM
I know right, they are so cute!!
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Emily
January 16, 2011 at 5:30 AM
agreed! I'm so sad oska is going to end up with seul :(
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58 halfmoon
January 15, 2011 at 10:49 PM
I sense that you haven't liked SG much at all, JB... I personally wasn't too bothered nor tired by the plot logic flaws. I also think the characters were misunderstood at times. But thank you for the show's recaps, nonetheless!
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halfmoon
January 15, 2011 at 10:56 PM
Just to clarify: I wanted to say thank you for the recaps, especially when you didn't seem to enjoy the show much, as I'm very grateful for that. Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, and I can understand and respect your point of view :)
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59 Jenni
January 15, 2011 at 10:49 PM
TYSM for recaps! I have been waiting for all day >W<
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60 Elle
January 15, 2011 at 10:52 PM
So nervous for the final episode. Its going to end soon *sob* *sob*
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61 JAM
January 15, 2011 at 10:52 PM
Seul is awesome! Love the showdown with Oska's mom. :D
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62 ck1Oz
January 15, 2011 at 11:01 PM
Thank you. So much.Now my day's routine is complete and I await ep 20!!
The latest spoilers are enough to make a girl crazy with anticipation!!! :-)
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63 aoun
January 15, 2011 at 11:09 PM
Thanks for the fast recap. I am one of your big fans. Muahhh...
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64 tisyamey
January 15, 2011 at 11:22 PM
Gosh, if you only knew how many times I've check this site all day for this recap!! thank you sooo much!
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65 ar
January 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM
Thanks for the recap!!
I agree with you about the Monet-like effect. I love this drama to bits, but I can't help but be disappointed by its flaws and at some of the potential lost. I guess this is what happens when you write your script while it's airing. You don't have the time to look at it and consider all the ways that it can be improved. There could have been a better logic and narrative purpose to the body-switch. Ra-Im could have been developed better. So used to seeing Ha Ji Won in the spotlight of her own works that it's sad that she is taking a backseat to Hyunbin and his Joo-won.
What's so great abt this drama is the amt of personality it has. There are a lot of tired tropes, but I think there are many things in this drama that will really stick to one's memory even years after the drama is finished.
I'm glad they did the self-parody with Ah-young and the Secretary- just like how they did it with the wrist-grab in Wish Upon a Star. It's a good thing to remind the audience that nice men don't act like Joo-won in real life. (My Princess needs to do one on the wrist-grab)
Loved the new ending to the little mermaid. I guffawed at him inserting his signature "is this the best you can do? are you sure?" line. Loved how Ra-Im is sort of the pursuer now. Actually, I love Ra-Im when she is super cheesy! I'm going to miss some of those cheesy Ra-Im x Oska scenes when this series is over.
Seul and Oska's mom-- best showdown ever! (May I mention for the 100th time how much I love NOT hating Seul.)
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13thangel
January 16, 2011 at 12:20 AM
same sentiments here. :)
i guess, those people who dont Hate Seul from the beginning believe there is a reason to her acting like that... love that she is not the typical second lead/ antagonist female. :)
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mehappy
January 16, 2011 at 1:05 AM
I totally agree, I think Ha ji won role did not developed much throughout the episode and she seems that she setback for hyun bin role. That is why Hyun Bin got more attention in this drama because the story mostly revolves around his character.His role seems to overshadow ha ji won's role of the drama. Having said that, It is a fun drama to watch and Hyun Bin did a great job on his part...ha ji won too of course. However, I just wish that i've seen more changes on Ra-Im(ha jiwon)part, they could have done more about her role. She's really a great actress, i just thought that this drama focuses more on Hyun Bin(joo-won).
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dokutokunaneko
January 16, 2011 at 11:22 AM
this, so much. thank you for being one of the few who speak with common sense :) I love this drama to bits. It's always so exciting, never a dull moment. But that doesn't negate the fact that there are gaping holes in the plot, and there are a ton of things that COULD HAVE BEEN so much better, esp. knowing how good the writer is.
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berdecinismo
January 16, 2011 at 4:42 PM
@asianromance
Love your comment. You've expressed my (shared) sentiments about this drama.
There's much to praise about this show, but it does not obscure the fact that there are some areas of the PLOT that leaves much to be desired. . .
I agree with JB that the Mom-antagonist trope and the inconsistent Gil Ra-Im characterization are exhausting.
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66 Bluefyre
January 15, 2011 at 11:42 PM
Thanks so much!! I love this episode!
I'm sad/glad it's almost over though :3
Good thing we have My Princess to partly fill the gaping hole that this will leave in Kdramaland.
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67 izzie
January 15, 2011 at 11:47 PM
Still wondering a few things about DumbleDad:
- where did he get his magic?
- why do the body swap? if it was to save Ra-Im from coma, isn't it that he magicked her back to health?
maybe Joo-won left his conceit behind in her body after the last swap.
I think it was Ra-Im's effort to remind Joo-Won of the way he is to her as a 34-yr-old man-boy.
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maria
January 16, 2011 at 3:02 AM
"dumbledad" made my dad.
that, and (if you're following Bones (sorry OT)-- Baghdad Barbie. LOL
witty nicknames make life awesome :D
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dramacafe
January 16, 2011 at 3:18 AM
Basically, the way I understand it dad's mojo has limits (like any magic does) and that includes not curing his daughter himself. Since technically during the coma it was JW's soul in RI's body so he didn't practically magicked her back to health 'cause it wasn't RI's soul. That's why the body swap was needed. Take it something like a cure isn't handed to you and you just get healed. One must take in some effort to get healed like eat healthy stuff etc. In the same manner, dad's mojo/cure would need a 3rd party to work.
Does that make sense?
Now regarding where the magic came from. I would love to know that, too! If they explain it in the finale that's good. If not, it'll be added in the vault called kdrama mysteries that will forever bug us to no end. :D
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izzie
January 16, 2011 at 3:56 AM
One must take in some effort to get healed like eat healthy stuff etc. In the same manner, dad’s mojo/cure would need a 3rd party to work.
What you've mentioned is similar to the MGIAG situation where the bead needed to feed on the chi of the host to make the gumiho human. From what I understand in your theory, Ra-Im's soul was weakened by the accident as well, so her body needed a stronger soul to get well? If that's how it is with the story, then that would also explain the body switch but in episode 17&18 only, and not in the earlier ones where they went through shenanigans because of it.
Unfortunately, the workings of DumbleDad's magic hasn't been explained. All we have are assumptions, so far. I hope as well that we don't end up with mere assumptions on the purpose of the body switch, cuz that just ruins the core of the story. :(
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jomo143
January 16, 2011 at 7:25 AM
DumbleDad had more powers that you can even imagine.
He can defy laws of physics, too.
Did you notice, at the end of the rescue scene, when Joo Won looks down on the fireball that seems to have enveloped the fallen elevator car?
Normally in real life (and movies) that elevator shaft fireball rises quickly, sending heros and heroines away even faster. But not here. DDad's presence has a black hole like quality, and he absorbed the fireball, allowing JW a moment to reflect on how sad the whole thing is.
Do you really need to ask how DDad does this?
My theory is that he is Spock from the future, who originally came through the black hole chasing after Eric Bana 13 years ago. On his magic whirly ship is red matter, which among other known capabilities, can cause souls to switch bodies, hearts to flutter, kisses to happen, and Little Mermaids to un-disappear.
It's so obvious!!
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izzie
January 16, 2011 at 8:07 AM
lol. I marveled at his strength when he pushed Joo-Won back just before the elevator fell. How a person on a lower plane, unstable ground, and off his center of gravity can do that is beyond me. :D
Of course, he's DumbleDad. ;)
he absorbed the fireball, allowing JW a moment to reflect on how sad the whole thing is.
It's very Gandalf of him. :D Reminds me of the firefight at the depths of Moria where Frodo watched him fall in the pit. You sure he's from Star Trek?
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jomo143
January 16, 2011 at 8:34 AM
In a galaxy far far away was born unto movies a man, no, a being for whom all is possible. His name?
Is it Gandalf? Obi-wan? DumbleDad? Morpheous? Spock? Merlin?
It is all, and yet only one.
He will absorb fireballs, and lo, will know how to fix things, but not that annoying squeak in the kitchen cabinet door, yet we will love him.
He will never be as hot as Main Character, and he will most likely wear whiskers, except for Spock, whose ear-points will replace facial hair, and we will never ever want to be kissed deeply by him, again, except for Spock.
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samgetang
January 16, 2011 at 2:33 PM
this is the biggest gaping hole in this story: source and sense of DumbleDad's magic powers ;-)
but we like SG anyway because of all the hijinks brought about by the senseless universe the writer/s have created for this kdrama. they will for a long time leave its mark in kdramaland with its sparkly tracksuit, the coffee-foam kiss (now with its own parody), the revised little mermaid ending, the "are you sure? is this the best you can do?", and so many others. :-)
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68 teapot
January 15, 2011 at 11:47 PM
I'm a little confused that of all the stuff that JW's momma pulled, THIS lie was the straw that broke the camel's back. But hey, *suspension of disbelief* *suspension of disbelief* I'll take it.
Oh, the elevator scene - man that was well done. I've always thought the actor who played RI's dad had some great facial expressions, but holy cow he killed me in that scene. I just wanted to pet him and tell him it would be ok (which is kinda weird, no)?
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izzie
January 16, 2011 at 12:09 AM
Maybe Joo-Won was pissed off that after all he's been through for Ra-Im, he was almost tricked by his mother to hate her because of his amnesia - if not for his memory returning just in time. Besides, it's Joo-Won version 3.0 (21-yr-old & 34-yr-old in one) who was dealing with the mother already. Maybe he has a lot better sense this time.
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69 knewbie
January 15, 2011 at 11:51 PM
funny how you mention that writer chose 2pm and beast to so-called acknowledge the idols support...
one thing though, dont know if anyone else notice...
writer seems to like the Yongseo couple too!
The part where Oska grabbed Suel's hand and stuff both their hands in his pocket! hahaha..
can't wait for tonight's epi...
maybe ah young's dream shows ra-im scolding her three kids and their father for not behaving?? hahaha..
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70 kpopfan
January 16, 2011 at 12:01 AM
This was a great episode, and Joo Won was simply too musheesa in how he handled his mother. Yay!
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71 maria
January 16, 2011 at 12:08 AM
i think that your annoyance for the character is understandable, but for me, i don't know if you've placed enough emphasis in how both their lives had left them with crazy levels of psychological debilitation. all your remarks like, "why couldn't he have done this before? why wasn't she like this with him before?" are all answerable by the fact that it was only until recently that something had been big enough to shake them out of their handicaps. paralysis, even.
it's incredibly difficult for a girl without parents to keep her self-esteem very high, and all throughout, i found that, while it was annoying for her character to be so damn apologetic all the freakin time, it was very much realistic.
you don't get a normal, psychologically sound man of thirty-four when he was a young adult who experienced trauma like that, and had a million enablers to boot. he had money, a predisposition to look down on people, and people who loved him in the wrong way and kept him in his "prison", because they thought he wouldn't be able to handle the emotional breakdown. he a guy like that would've grown up selfish, egocentric, monomaniacal, etc. everything Joo Won character was.
AND the one thing, the one buffer that probably would've made a difference in them turning out this way--- was a memory, were words that had been kept hidden for 13 years. you have to give them some credit for working through their clashing idiosyncracies when they found each other. SOOOOOO SLOOOOOOWLY, yes, but they eventually found something that was enough to set them free.
so for it's realism, it's flair, it's flaws and it's undeniable charisma, i give Secret Garden an A. :)
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Hipployta
January 16, 2011 at 12:14 AM
I completely agree with you!
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aoun
January 16, 2011 at 12:14 AM
You spoke well! I totally second you! And I am still a big fan of JB:)
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maria
January 16, 2011 at 2:15 AM
me too, this is totally not a JB blast AT ALL! (for those who might think that) :/ i know a healthy dose of dialogue is encouraged here, and i know we all benefit from discourse. as long as we're all polite. (which, i hope i sufficiently was ):)
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gingganggolli
January 16, 2011 at 3:13 AM
…Somehow that’s why I love this site, coz this doesn’t just go with the flow when everybody was praising this drama. Somehow JB need to stand in a way that people can also give their opinions and explore it by themselves she may not totally agree with the majority at least it was voiced out and kindda fun to play with the topic and make us discover some elements why we became a kdrama addict.
…one more thing why I like it here is the readers/commentators they are more tame, polite, well mannered and their wittiness are beyond compare…. Sometimes just reading comments is enough to make the show complete.
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samgetang
January 16, 2011 at 2:49 PM
…one more thing why I like it here is the readers/commentators they are more tame, polite, well mannered and their wittiness are beyond compare…. Sometimes just reading comments is enough to make the show complete.
- my thoughts, exactly! ;-) thanks for phrasing that nicely for all of us...
samgetang
January 16, 2011 at 2:53 PM
...and much credit to Javabeans and all DB staff for letting us share our 2-cents worth of thoughts, opinions and questions here! kdramaland would not be as fun without Dramabeans :-)
samgetang
January 16, 2011 at 2:54 PM
as much fun, i should say ;-)
celest1al
January 16, 2011 at 12:17 AM
Couldn't have said it better. Very well said! Agree with your sentiments about Ra Im and Joo Won's characters 100%.
This episode was so good. It was actually the first time I shed tears, rather than just get teary-eyed, in this drama. I absolutely LOVED the flashback scene when he finally regained his memories. It was beautifully done.
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halfmoon
January 16, 2011 at 12:26 AM
very well said!
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13thangel
January 16, 2011 at 12:33 AM
love the last line. :)
personally knows people who falls on almost the same if not exactly similar types as Joo-won and Ra-im.
Secret Garden gave "if i were you" thinking a scrutiny.
(you know when people say "If i were you"... its easier said than done. because each person has a different background, set of values, etc. that influences how one thinks, decides, acts so its impossible that you expect the person to act the way you think he/she should. he/she is her/his own person, right? got it or quite confusing?) the body/soul swap is one approach to that.
the drama has its flaws, but for a fantasy, it has the most realistic grounds compared to other dramas i have seen. (IMO)
yet yeah... ra-im's character could have been developed more.
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gea
January 16, 2011 at 1:19 AM
well said. an A for you too for expressing things in my head that i can't express in words...
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maria
January 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM
yeah, like all dramas, more depth could've been shown, but also, like all dramas, they chose to show the sides that were relevant to the progress of the story. i wish this was a 50-episode thing, instead of 20! who knows? maybe we would've seen how Joo Won would be like a a husband (i can totally see him cooking her breakfast in the morning instead of the other way around! :P) , how Ra Im would be as a famous stunt school director, how great her friendship with Jong Soo can still further become, how Ah Young and Sec Kim would be if they had a baby.. HAHA!
i know i spoke very strongly, it's just that i know what's it's like to not live up to people expectations, especially when they don't know what you've gone through to just survive. speaking both for myself, and the people close to me who can really relate, thank you guys for validating my shot at giving my 2 cents. :)
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Anonymous
January 16, 2011 at 6:12 AM
Yeah it's too bad that Ra Im's character doesn't seem as developed as Joo Won's character. However I think HaJiWon did a superb job with what she had - you can easily dislike the RaIm character (or be more annoyed at her) in the hands of a less-experienced actress.
btw.. the fact that Joo Won's character is generally more favoured than Ra Im's is probably not because her character is less well developed (because Ha Ji Won is such a great actress). But it's probably because he's got more quirks than Ra Im and in particular, he's got an unshakeably high opinion of himself which is always more fun to see in a drama than a person with a meek and more passive nature (like Ra Im's).
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72 Hipployta
January 16, 2011 at 12:15 AM
Hey JB thanks for continuing to recap the series even though it became increasingly apparent that you don't enjoy it for the most part. I just wish you could have had more fun on this ride with us.
On to My Princess!
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73 Katey B
January 16, 2011 at 12:27 AM
Superfast recap and superfast subs makes SG fans superhappy.
I was questioning the outfits JW and RI wore for their spa meet for the duration of the scene (ie. 'What no sparkles JW?') but apart from that loved the whole episode.
Looking forward to the finale and then the special.
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74 kpopfan
January 16, 2011 at 12:28 AM
I cried like a baby when JooWon was recalling the story of how Ra Im's father died and also when they went to greet him at the memorial. so touched by JooWon's words and how he has transformed into this indebted and humbler version of himself.
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75 13thangel
January 16, 2011 at 12:36 AM
JB, thanks for the recap!
(started getting addicted to your recaps since "You're Beautiful"... yeah, well... :) )
one episode left. rawr.
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76 ockoala
January 16, 2011 at 12:36 AM
Can I cast a vote for Santa to recap episode 20? Pretty please. A Santa-Girlfriday tandem would be even more brilliant. Both could make the bordering-on-insanity-on-the-cusp-of-inanity-plot of SG perhaps seem palatable.
The albeit few ungrateful ingrates complaining that JB doesn't seem to like SG yet she recaps it - Dramabeans is forever and always HER BLOG.
She writes about shit she wants to. She wants to recap SG, and write what she thinks. End of story. Nothing she does is per your request or at your behest with renumeration and compensation.
On a non-ragey note - no one knows how a drama will end when it first begins. To start a recap of a drama series when it starts off promising in no way predicts that it will end equally as delightful.
A dedicated recapper, who recaps with their heart and their mind, will finish a series to the sometimes bitter end, but always with care and attention to their work. Don't ever gripe that they don't seem to like it as much, hence they shouldn't share their thoughts. Are you really that insecure in your own tastes to be unable to consider diverging opinions?
I like to think we all benefit from critical analysis. JB and GF are the most professional recappers I've ever read, and their opinions are always food for thought.
Thanks for the recap, JB! Can I just throw in a random aside - I think SG is a huge step backward for KES from her maturity in writing for CH. To say I am disappointed is an understatement.
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hjkomo
January 16, 2011 at 12:56 AM
BRING BACK SANTA!!! :P
Dear Santa,
I know you were extremely busy over the holidays, and I appreciate all the HARD WORK that you do, with the transglobal travel in a single night and all...
but you've had a few weeks now to rest on your vacation island in the Bahamas, right? ;)
Javabeans and Girlfriday have been very, very good girls, and we all would really love for you to recap the final episode of SG.
PLEASE PLEASE PRETTY PLEASE WITH SUGAR ON TOP???
Ten thousand thank you's...
:D
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Santa Claus
January 16, 2011 at 1:32 AM
The holidays were indeed very busy, especially with my reindeer still on strike. Lazy bums. But this year I decided to cut out the middleman, and went with FedEx. If your presents don't arrive till St. Paddy's Day, that's why.
JB and GF are mostly naughty, but they keep me in whiskey and tobacco for my jaunty pipe, so I'm obliged to recap for them once in a while.
Here's my recap of Secret Garden, as a series:
Joo-won meets Ra-im, mistakes her for a hooker. Whoops.
He's smitten, but doesn't know why, because he's new.
He wears sparkly tracksuits un-ironically, but the guy's a pill-popper, so that might explain why.
She rejects him, he stalks her. Aw.
That goes on for a while.
Then, the guy's wearing bras and the girl's walkin' like a dude, and I'm not really sure why. But it's funny.
Mom finds out, doesn't approve. She gets nasty.
They keep swapping bodies, for no apparent reason.
Then he goes and swaps bodies with her when she's in a coma, and wakes up with amnesia.
They rewrite the ending to The Little Mermaid.
Wait, is this The Little Mermaid? Where's the lobster that sings? I love that guy!
No? It's not The Little Mermaid? I'm confused...
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Javabeans
January 16, 2011 at 2:03 AM
Yay! Thanks dude, saved me a lot of trouble. Does this mean we're done now?
On to the next drama!
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Annie
January 16, 2011 at 2:25 AM
Santa is officially my hero. Wish it was Christmas all year round!
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Jemrie
January 16, 2011 at 3:15 AM
LOL! Got a kick out of that summary!
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Gina
January 16, 2011 at 3:21 AM
.. I wish the real Santa was like this...
dokutokunaneko
January 16, 2011 at 11:29 AM
best SG recap ever <3 thank you Santa! no wonder why my christmas present never arrived. this must be it!
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teapot
January 16, 2011 at 11:34 AM
wait... Sebastian was a Lobster?
Thanks Santa!
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izzie
January 17, 2011 at 5:55 AM
he body-swapped with a lobster when he was caught in a fishing net somewhere in the Pacific. swapping him with another free-swimming crustacean was all Ariel could do.
hjkomo
January 16, 2011 at 2:20 PM
:lol:
Santa, I don't mind that I didn't get my present yet because THAT WAS THE BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT EVAH!!!
:P :P :P
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samgetang
January 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM
Santa, a whooping thanks to that short and sweet recap! This is not the shortest recap you've done so I guess you secretly like Secret Garden after all, hehehehe.
I'm as confused as you are with SG but their attempt to rewrite Hans Christian Andersen's fantasy is a really brave thing to do. Who told them to follow it anyway, I don't know.
And so, I remain confused. But I'm dazzled by the sparkly blue tracksuit soooo...
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13thangel
January 16, 2011 at 4:21 PM
oh gad. LOL!
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Gummie
January 16, 2011 at 7:09 PM
Awesome recap!!!
Can't ask for anything more than this
Much love to you, Santa.
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izzie
January 17, 2011 at 5:57 AM
gonna save this one and show it to whoever will ask me how the story of SG is/goes. :D
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dramacafe
January 16, 2011 at 1:29 AM
Totally agree with what you said! This is JB's blog and she can do whatever she pleases. I, for one love SG so much but I respect JB's opinion of what she thinks about each and every SG episode. Yes, we all have a right to our own opinion but let's veer away from taking it personally against someone who doesn't agree with you specially if that someone is doing us all a favor by recapping this series for us.
I love SG so much that I think it's the cutest thing ever but I don't go complaining here at DB just because JB doesn't think of it the same way I do.
If those people who's so unsatisfied with what JB has to say then I suggest do your own blog try recapping it your own way and write how much you love SG as much as you like. ^^
On another note, I love how SG tests my limits as far as how I can handle all the cute stuff versus the rational but I'm too much of a hopeless romantic and a fan girl that I enjoy and lap up all SG stuff like there's no tomorrow.
With SG you either love to hate it or hate to love it! Me, I'd rather go with I love SG...period! Haha!
Just my two cents. ^^
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berdecinismo
January 16, 2011 at 5:08 PM
@ockoala
This is why I like reading the comment section.
I can always find someone eloquent enough to express what I have in mind. Thank you ockoala~
I read the drama recaps in Dramabeans since the writers offer insightful and well-though-out opinions about the shows so many watch.
It's always a joy to visit this site.
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berdecinismo
January 16, 2011 at 5:12 PM
OOopps . . .I meant @dramacafe! (in comment 76.3)
I wish there was a edit button -_-"
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77 gardenerForever
January 16, 2011 at 12:43 AM
best episode for me! omg, i cried tears of joy when JW remembered, and all these flashbacks came and he was running to RI! omg . well done! i love SG so much. been following it ever since it aired , cannot tell you how much i'll miss SG. like a part of me is goneeee:( SG was the best drama of 2010!
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78 meenuby
January 16, 2011 at 1:06 AM
Thank you for the recap JB!
My enthusiasm for SG has been getting less since around ep 15- no, say ep 13. By the time ep 18 rolled around, I (who's biggest kdrama fear is getting spoiled and hardly ever watches RAWs) finally read your recap w/o watching the episode at ALL (omo! for me) and the big load of WTFery put me off from watching it at all.
So I just watched ep 19 (gonna pretend 18 didn't happen) and it reminds me of all the reasons why I love SG, but also points out the glaring flaws. I'm just hoping 20 gives us a cute, fluffy ending.
"Ra-im twists his arm (literally), pinning it painfully behind his back, and shows him a more accurate representation of what their physical relationship was like. (I know that it’s a funny gag for this moment, but is anyone else bothered about the actual truth in that statement?)"
Yeah, you're not alone JB. And it brings me back to what you said early on when this drama was first airing: that the writer wasn't too strong on developing the emotional aspect of relationships. Comedy and witty one-liners, yes. Emotional development, not so much.
Anyway, I hope we get just one more lovely brodown b/w Oska and JW. I love their banter. :)
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meenuby
January 16, 2011 at 1:14 AM
Oops, I just went back to read your comments on the first recap. It wasn't so much emotional development, rather it was her writing being "glib and soulless." Yeah, it does tend to be like that. I mean I'm enjoying the drama but somewhere along the way, with all that soul-switching, the drama kind of lost its soul too.
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Birdie
January 16, 2011 at 10:46 AM
I concur with both your comments. Also, thank you JB for voicing your insight on this drama flaws, despite knowing you are going to get some hate from the fans. I love to read your recaps, because you always see things from different angles. Your critique is always much appreciated.Most of the time the readers here are able to debate issues in a respectful manner, which make it interesting. Personally I think the drama lost its lustre after the first bodyswap. It is still enjoyable with good acting from its cast (except Phillip Lee), great cinematography and good ost.
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13thangel
January 16, 2011 at 4:23 PM
"It is still enjoyable with good acting from its cast (except Phillip Lee), great cinematography and good ost."
i agree!!!
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79 STory
January 16, 2011 at 1:08 AM
Thanks a lot for recapping this drama! I know you aren't that satisfied with some of the flaws in this drama, but the writer isn't perfect. There's bound to be mistakes made. I had tried writing a story, trust me, it's hard to make a satisfying and convincing plot.
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80 nixxochick
January 16, 2011 at 1:39 AM
i love it...flaws and all :)
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81 Ace
January 16, 2011 at 1:43 AM
Ah-young's dream: TRIPLETS?! (http://www.hancinema.net/spoiler-joo-won-la-im-married-sceret-garden-predicts-twin-ending-27223.html)
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82 Annie
January 16, 2011 at 2:05 AM
I giggled when I saw the screen caps of Secretary Kim and Ah Young reenacting the foam kiss. Someone put secretary Kim in more dramas, pronto! The man is hilarious. He makes me laugh even during the most serious moments i.e. the elevator scene when they rescued Joo Won.
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Gina
January 16, 2011 at 3:18 AM
LOL. I AGREE.
Despite the serious gloom of the elevator scene. I LOVED SECRETARY KIM. AND HIS SOMEWHAT COMICAL WAILING.
Also when Joo Won was about to get fired as CEO, and he and Secretary Kim were talking abotu starting a FARM?!
... And then Secretary Kim called him Kim Joowonie Hyung.
LOOOL. Priceless.
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83 Elle-Emme
January 16, 2011 at 2:07 AM
thaks 4 recap and now i can follow in
this was the 1st drama i followed while it was stil o the air
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84 NimiWehy
January 16, 2011 at 2:14 AM
Dear Flamer,
You must be reading the new "Shit I Say On Internet and Get Away With Because Nobody Can See Me". Very popular in Mainland Chinese prisons ,I hear.
Have opinions/disagreements but elaborate and defend your position;politely,graciously.
Etiquette reigns even if it's internet ; especially since it's internet.
Regards,Nimi
@ockoala,hjkomo, Do they even deserve a Santa? :-)
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85 Jemrie
January 16, 2011 at 3:08 AM
Boy this drama can really tug you around emotionally, sighing over cute moments giggling at some of the lighthearted comic moments and finding your face wet with tears over the sad ones. You can say that plot wise this drama is crazy and doesn't always make sense, but I don't think you can deny the persuasive way the elements draw you in emotionally. I believe thats what makes this a success, I never felt detached and genuinly cared about what was happening to the characters even when I didn't particularly like them. Perhaps I am willingly manipulated by the sizzling chemistry between the actors and not just the OTP as well as the music, direction, cinematography and stellar acting. I agree with dramabeans that this show really is like a Monet painting looking closely shows the flaws, but so far I have been looking at it from the perfect distance and after all a Monet painting is a masterpiece.
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Jemrie
January 16, 2011 at 3:11 AM
Sorry, Javabeans not dramabeans!
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86 Gina
January 16, 2011 at 3:16 AM
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with the majority of you.
But I really dislike Ra Im's character. Her personality is weak and her character faulty. I account none of this to Ha Ji Won.
And if you must speak realistically - i understand that she is over-apologetic the way she is due to the many hardships in which she endured - but as a character, how is one both meekly apologetic, with no self pride, yet over confident and flirtatious, AND also occasionally hardcore. I personally find that a tad unrealistic.
.. yet despite that, I still love this drama 8) alot. First drama series I've followed while it's still airing. I credit Hyun Bin for that 8D
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ar
January 16, 2011 at 8:31 AM
Ra-Im's personality doesn't make a great drama character that you can root for consistently but I can sort of see her flipflopping personality as being a bit realistic since I'm a bit like her in real life. I'm really optimistic and meek sometimes at work, towards older people, strangers etc. I say 'I'm sorry' at least once an hour at work even though I have really nice bosses and coworkers. If JW's mom yelled at me, I would probably cry like a baby.
However, I'm overconfident, sarcastic, and unexpectedly funny other times, especially towards my friends and people younger than me. Amongst my entire family, while they concede that I have good traits, I am still the violent, overly passionate, and bad-tempered one.
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xylophonic
January 16, 2011 at 4:25 PM
Nicely put!
Yeah, it's perfectly normal that people act differently around different people. It's not like it's a multiple-personality thing, it's just the variant relationships we have with people around us. Like you wouldn't whine in your petulant voice to your boss like you would with your mother.
Ra-im loves her work and is good at it, that's how she's so confident and 'hardcore' while shooting action scenes. But still she's very polite with her sunbaes, and that politeness becomes meekness when around people who are socially/professionally higher up than her. If she acted the same to everyone, then that would be the strange and unrealistic thing.
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geanna
January 16, 2011 at 7:44 PM
dang! i thought i'm the only one out here with those traits! i feel a bit down and inferior when people bashing ra im's character coz i'm a lot like her... now that i know someone out there is just like me, i kinda feel relief... ^^
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Gina
January 16, 2011 at 11:12 PM
Yeah, I guess many people can be that way.
I understand that people may act differently around other various ways - and in the way you guys have stated, i guess I can do that too. However, nonetheless, I still get irritated at Ra-Im's character. I guess it's just slightly over-done and exaggerated- the way kdrama's do xD
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ar
January 16, 2011 at 11:53 PM
I'm glad you're just like me, geanna! And I'm glad xylophonic has assured us that this is normal!
Now if only I can squash my meekness and bring up my more confident traits when I meet guys...*sigh*
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87 Endon
January 16, 2011 at 3:32 AM
Thank you for this recap, Java Beans! I'm a first-time poster, but I've been following your recaps (and the comments on them) for a while. I suspect the SG fandom has reached a.. um, fervent stage of fanatacism, so don't take the offended comments to heart.
But as it stands, I want to emphasise to any reader who might stumble across this comment - Secret Garden is an awesome, engaging, witty drama and all, but it is flawed, some of the plots are stretched... and the gender dynamics suck. If you ever encounter someone like Joo Won in real life, you better prepare a restraining order.
I know, there's the cavaet - there's plenty of Korean dramas with worst gender dynamics/more badly executed makjang, etc, but this isn't a competition of which dramas can send out the most damaging subtext. JW's pursuit of GRI was sexual harassment and it was creepy. The show was wrong to portray his actions in a romantic light (such as the bed tussle. What on earth was that? And where GRI said that JW refused to acknowledge the fact that she tried breaking up with him repeatedly, and the only recrimination JW got as Oska telling him to [paraphrasing] sit in the corner and think about what he did wrong? Please.)
Worse yet was the justification that his irresistable attraction to her was what led him to be such an asshat in the first place. BLERGH, show, UGH. It's the same argument rapists use too, and it's wrong, wrong, wrong.
Sure, the show also pointed out that what he did was wrong, and the meta foam kiss between Secretary Kim and Ah Young was much appreciated. But that doesn't change the fact that in the first half of the show, more, that JW was an utter creep, and GRI lost her kickass hat sometime after the first switch. GRI might be driven by the power of her love, respect for her father and blah blah blah context, but she's hardly a stand up example of an active kick butt female character. For almost 70% of the show, she was passive and blergh. I for one didn't understand her justfications for dumping JW in episode 17 after her confrontation with JW's mom.
Also, another thing that peeved me was the completely incorrect referencing to the Little Mermaid. I mean, it was cute and all, and I enjoyed it - but they've got it all wrong. Little Mermaid isn't a story about lost love and sacrifice. It's a story about finding God. If you read the story properly, the mermaid's transformation to bubbles symbolises her leaving the worldly trappings of human affections, and to ascend to find the true meaning of happiness in life - God. And this is coming from an athiest. When I wasn't completely blinded by the engaging SG story, I was shaking my head at how they were getting everything so wrong.
Which isn't to say I didnt enjoy it. The dialogue in SG is amazing, the characters are well drawn and the production values are clearly very high. But when you look at dramas, you shouldn't just be looking at everything that glitters on the surfac and the gorgeous actors. You should be looking at the deeper meanings as well. Sometimes, finding the flaws of things makes appreciating the whole product more complete.
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R
January 16, 2011 at 7:45 AM
I'm sorry, but I do not agree with your interpretation of the Little Mermaid, which I read both when a child and while studying literature.
The Little Mermaid is a fable about fitting into a world that is not meant for you, giving up what you treasure most facing the risk of being left with absolute nothing.
Yes, she ends up in foam and through the tears sees the light of god, but this is by no means the significance of the fable. The central issue of Andersen's work is diversity, which keeps a lot of his characters suspended between one world and the other.
Therefore, the references to The Little Mermaid in this drama are very far from wrong. And I am not saying this because I am blinded by the drama; in fact, I like this drama BECAUSE it has many literary references.
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88 Katey B
January 16, 2011 at 4:32 AM
What would you do if Binnie sat next to you?
Fancam (-no, not mine) from OST concert:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KJLKG8COrU
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89 SG-addict
January 16, 2011 at 5:00 AM
Despite the many many flaws in execution and plot contrivances, in particular the last few episodes, I love Secret Garden to bits!
I guess it's down to what one looks for in a show. I've been watching K-dramas for years, though may not have as many under my belt as compared to many of you here, I'm still familiar with most of the typical tropes and makjang elements employed in most of them. Some can be really annoying, which means I drop the show halfway, and some, though predictable, can be pretty entertaining, and that's what works for me.
Secret Garden, for all its inadequacies in whichever areas that didn't work for some people, has been drama gold in my eyes. The cast -- both primary and secondary have been stellar! They carry the show from beginning to end! And the witty dialogues ... omg, many of which have been seared into my memory for happy keeping! :) I can't remember the last time I'd enjoyed a K-drama this much -- enough to delurk here. :) I'm soooo gonna suffer from the withdrawal symptoms after it ends tonight. :(
JB, a million thanks for the recap. Not only this one, but the past 9 odd-numbered episodes of SG. Though I may not have agreed with some of your POVs, I've enjoyed your recaps immensely. Kudos to you for sticking it out to the (bitter? boring? ;p) end for all of us here, despite not enjoying the show as much as some of us have. Really appreciate your dedication and hard work! *thumbs up*
Here's wishing you have better connection with My Princess and Dream High! ;p
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Sukispop
January 16, 2011 at 1:47 PM
@SG-addict-
Your comments pretty much mirrored exactly how I feel, and I couldn't have worded it better than you did...so thank you! :)
Having followed this wonderful blog for some time, now, I've learned about things like drama tropes, plot devices and contrivances, and the big ol' Deus Ex Machina. I really love Dramabeans and, of course, JB and girlfriday, for adding so much to my enjoyment of kdramas. Their superb recaps help me to better understand what's going on and what's being said/expressed. Even after I've watched a subbed episode, I've found that I still gain much better comprehension when I've read their recap.
Then, after the recap comes JB's or girlfriday's comments/insight. For me, this is the real jewel of this blog. I gain not only their well educated and skilled perspectives; I also gain the benefits of a well grounded critique that helps me to learn and understand what works(and what doesn't work) in a drama, narratively and otherwise. I learn new things about this pastime that's become something of a passion for me. That makes me a better viewer, and my viewing experience is made richer for it. I am sincerely grateful for all that you give to us, JB and girlfriday. Thank you!!
With all that said, I would like to add that I am glad that I'm NOT a critic. I am glad that I don't have to wear a critic's pair of glasses when I sit down to watch a drama. I don't have to filter out the stuff that doesn't work or work well. In my mind, being a critic must sometimes really take away from the ability to just sit back and enjoy a drama for what it is. And that must take away some degree of enjoyability. Can't be easy. And this awareness makes me especially appreciative of what JB, girlfriday, and other drama bloggers do(like you, too, ockoala ;) ).
Secret Garden, for me, has been an amazing bit of drama magic. Even with the flaws that have been revealed. Honestly, for me, the soul switching when Ra-im was comatose, the dream/astral plane banquet table scene with Joo-won, Ra-im, and Ra-im's dad, Ra-im's dad's magic "fix", Joo-won's memory loss...all these things worked for me. I know, I know...plot contrivance, Deus Ex Machina...but, still...for me, within the context of this mystical fantasy element love story...it worked. Unlike with Personal Taste and My Fair Lady, where things just started rubbing me wrong and I couldn't help but feel like, "wtf???", Secret Garden's stuff worked for me and I never got that nagging feeling like the story was going screwy. Call me blissfully ignorant or just plain stupid...either is fine...but, for me, it all worked.
Joo-won and Ra-im/Hyun Bin and Ha Ji-won- Of all the drama couples that I've seen so far, I've never fallen so completely in love with, or have found myself so emotionally invested in, like I have with these two. Their contrasting personalities, JW's quirky eccentricities, Ra-im's beautiful and sexy badassery, and the OMG way that they have conveyed their love for each other just through their eyes...freakin' amazing. I love them both, and their love story has become the new(and very highly set) benchmark for me.
I never thought that You're Beautiful or My Girlfriend is a Gumiho would ever lose any of the sparkle that my eyes and heart have held for them. But, for me, Secret Garden is now the drama that owns my heart. completely. And everything else that I've watched before has dulled...just a bit.
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90 omega
January 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM
final ep long preview http://thedramascenes.com
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Katey B
January 16, 2011 at 5:28 AM
Like, like, like.
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91 dokutokunaneko
January 16, 2011 at 5:18 AM
i can feel that you were trying so hard not to hate this episode/the whole drama - if so, I'm there with you. I feel robbed, especially the last 2 eps. WHY THE AMNESIA? it has no point, no point at all. so that he'd fall in love with her again, proving that they were meant to be? not quite - he was attracted to her seemingly due to what bits and pieces of memory that was left in him. the later part of the amnesia arc was like a replay of earlier episodes - thank God we didnt have to go all the way before he regained his memory.
so maybe he lost his memory so that she could help him avoid claustrophobia and mend his mental wounds? not quite. didnt see any of that. i guess its a convenient way to bring back his elevator memory. but even that came about out of nowhere.
sigh. the first half of the drama was SO good. i was always so happy waking up every weekend to watch the 2 episodes. im still doing that but not with that much excitement anymore. the whole thing feels forced and pointless :(
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buhdoop
January 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM
I loved the first 5 episodes LOVED. Actually, I think I loved it all the way to episode 14, then it turned into more of a like than a love.
SG has so much going for it, but I think the writer lost her focus at the end.
With that said, I still like how everything turned out and I still loved the ending (ep 20 ending) but I'll wait on the next recap to comment further on that :)
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92 lili
January 16, 2011 at 5:28 AM
can't wait for 2morrow
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93 Coco
January 16, 2011 at 5:39 AM
Thanks JB for the recaps and I agree with her. It really has many flaws. I love SG and enjoy it for most of the parts but sometimes the logical flaws are just too hard to ignore. The body switching part is still okay so with the mom not agreeing Ra Im. But the elevator scene ....it just annoyed me too much. Did anybody notice?
How on earth Joo Won could end up wounded in an elevator? There's nothing whatsoever in there that could make him bleed like that. Let say he got injured before that. But hey! If there is a fire, you couldn't use the elevator. Or let say, you could still use it. I don't think Joo Won is fool enough to use an elevator when the whole building is on fire.
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Anonymous
January 16, 2011 at 6:43 AM
That's a good point about why he used the elevator during the fire... because realistically, he would've only gotten injured outside the elevator unless something fell on his leg inside the elevator (which didn't seem to have happened).
For the sake of being the devil's advocate... I'm going to raise more issues.... most of them probably can be explained away and they're not quite as glaring as the injured leg in the elevator.
- Just because he got out of the elevator doesn't mean he would've gotten safetly out of the building especially when there was a raging fire right behind him and the walls were falling apart there. The other firemen would have a very tough time just finding him on that particular floor and pretty high up in a burning building.
- Aren't high level buildings usually equipped with sprinklers?
- Joowon has the same hair cut 13 years ago as he does now.
- Since he's 21, he should've been abroad studying at the University of Columbia (or whatever) for his bachelors... unless he went there for postgrad studies.
- Didn't he say episodes ago that he had friends there as well? I thought they would've been in the elevator with him.
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berdecinismo
January 16, 2011 at 5:39 PM
@93.1 Anonymous
You are awesome for highlighting those "minor details"~
LOL
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ar
January 16, 2011 at 11:46 PM
I also wonder what happened with his friends cuz he doesn't like have any friends now, except Oska and Secretary Kim. Did his mom pay JW's friends to leave so that they wouldn't jog his memories?
My thinking is that after high school, he did his military service. Then the accident-that-was-clearly-no-accident happened. Then he went to Columbia.
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94 fatraspberry
January 16, 2011 at 6:30 AM
i wish it would be a happy ending. :)
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95 cathy
January 16, 2011 at 6:48 AM
I like both main leads as actors but i don't like the characters they portray, for me it seems something crucial missing in their romance . I agree with above analysis and comments , character of HJW is flaw , unbelievable , we suppose to understand why HB character loves her but i can not find the reason .may be it is just me .
In MP , KTH character is different , she is maturing from cute student to responsible Princess with the good heart with could win our heart .
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96 jomo143
January 16, 2011 at 6:59 AM
What I like about this site's opinions is that even if they criticize shows, they do it with such affection and love.
These folks don't spend their free time watching, contemplating, writing about something they have a distaste for.
They aren't (always) fangirling the shows, they are
de-constructing. Taking apart, looking at the pieces, seeing if they could have been put together better, or not.
And, they understand what limitations the crew and cast face to get the shows out on time. I, for one, would LOVE to see a Hollywood team write, film, edit broadcast a 60 minute drama with a third of the quality these teams do.
It is astounding, really.
We have to respect the enthusiasm these ladies have after all the years they have been doing this. We've seen readers' comments about getting tired of the same old tropes and plot-points, and even wondering if the spark is gone for them for Kdrama.
I wonder if I could still watch and recap a Dream High without a huge bottle of soju ready to do shots for every Kdrama shortcut, but they still profess their love for the shows, for the actors, for the writers! They have JOY watching, and we do, too. That is why we are all here. Not because the shows are perfect.
And that's OK.
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samgetang
January 16, 2011 at 3:14 PM
Thanks, Jomo. That was thoughtfully phrased and well said. Echoing your sentiments! ;-)
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97 ngy
January 16, 2011 at 7:16 AM
Agree with the last sentence. Should make more dramas where ppl get happiness thru own hard work, rather than just mere luck.
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98 DrinksOnMe
January 16, 2011 at 8:04 AM
I'm not sure why I like SG so much. Maybe it's my girl crush on Ha Ji Won. That woman is toned! I need to hit the gym.
Javabeans, you are a lady and a scholar. I tip my top hat to you.
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99 CityHunter
January 16, 2011 at 8:35 AM
Thank you for the update. What's with kdramas and little mermaid analogies these days? For me, first it was My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, and now Secret Garden.
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100 Rida
January 16, 2011 at 9:40 AM
LOL @ Oska: "Maybe you should change your favourite star, B2ST I think they're not bad~!" LMAO! Anyway, I'm heartbroken that we're so near the end, I know I'll cry in the last episode. D;
Will there be 'special episodes?'
This is the MUST-SEE drama of the CENTURY ;D
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