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Philip Lee, a real-life chaebol (sort of)

girlfriday: So have you heard that Philip Lee is some real-life chaebol?
javabeans: Yeah, apparently his dad is this global businessman. Not strictly a chaebol but they’re stretching the term (of course). Here’s a picture of his gigantor house in the U.S. (But aren’t McMansions a dime a dozen here?)

girlfriday: So did his daddy buy his way into the industry?
javabeans: I heard rumors that he was connected, hence the notable role in Legend as his debut.
girlfriday: Well that explains visibility versus (lack of) acting talent.
javabeans: Yes. I wonder if Lee Jia is a chaebol too!
girlfriday: Hur hur.
javabeans: I mean, he’s not BAD in Secret Garden…
girlfriday: It was funny when he wanted to beat up Joo-won.
javabeans: Is this Episode 14?
girlfriday: Yup.
javabeans: I guess I’ll get there when I get there. (SIGH.) That was a pointed sigh.
girlfriday: There’s a good kiss, if that motivates you any.
javabeans: Do you think I’m that cheap?
girlfriday: Yes.
javabeans: Sadly that’s not enough this time. Normally I’d cave like a bear in winter.
girlfriday: Your bitterness is making your puns bad.
javabeans: Puns are always bad.
girlfriday: They are the lowest form of humor.
javabeans: So anyway, apparently this is all old news becoming new news again (though I missed it the first time) — there was an MBC “Success Stories” documentary in 2008 that featured clips of his monstrous home and his CEO dad, who runs some global IT business.
girlfriday: I missed it the first time too. So it’s new news to us!
javabeans: Though I did know he studied business and was getting his masters when he decided to break into the biz.
girlfriday: As the hot guy with good hair?
javabeans: I wonder what he’d look like with the army buzz.
girlfriday: I think he’s like Samson. Shave the hair, lose all powers.
javabeans: If he loses his hotness, he might have to learn real acting, though.
girlfriday: That’s a sad story.
javabeans: But good acting’ll make him hot again!
girlfriday: It’s almost like math…
javabeans: But without numbers.
girlfriday: The only kind I like.


Philip Lee in Legend

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looks like good old jersey

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You're right...isn't that Tony Soprano's house?

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Not really my cup of tea, this guy. I don't get the supposed sexy.

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With you - second that!

Right fr the start.
And I think that initial impression (and hair gets worse for in SG.

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I suppose I " Fourth that"

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lost the numbering sequence --- humm.. i'll "5th that"... count me in, not my cup of tea either..

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im "thirding" that.

then again, i tend to not see the hotness in what ppl would generally call hot, like SSH or So JiSub or even Kwon Sang Woo. so it might be my own weird taste in men.

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I Googled all three of them, and no, you're not alone in not finding any of them attractive :-)

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agreed.. i dont see it

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I don't find any of these three attractive (especially not KSW, I find that one even repulsive), but Philip Lee is enthralling. I dunno.

Not so much in SG, yeah, but I first saw him in The Slingshot (great drama btw) and he was a treat.

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hahaha i thought im the only one that find ksw and the other not that attractive , but lee phillip is ok he has nice body anyway hehehe

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KSW is just plain repulsive to me too. YUCK.

Phillip Lee is kinda strange looking at times and same for SJS even though lurve him to death! Phillip Lee I can do without though it IS nice to have a guy in a Korean drama whose character has lived in America that can actually speak English! Trying to watch say Love Story in Harvard where there are Korean actors trying to act like they can speak English is really awkward, especially if their character has supposedly been living in the US since they were a kid...

Now if only Phillip Lee could act it would be perfect!

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PL may not be your cup of tea, but he definitely is an above-average looking guy.

Otoh, he does look a bit weird due to the shape of his eyes, as well as the fact that they set a bit close together.

Also his purported nose job doesn't help.

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Agreed. I don't doubt his charisma though. He could be silent all episode in Legend, and you'd still notice him.

Sadly, I dislike his hair.

I can't think of the actor's name right now, but if Phillip Lee cut his hair and kept the stache, he'd look like the actor from Zia's Laughter mv.

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This. I'm actually finding him a little bit creepy. (I is weird. :()

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Heard his Korean was pretty bad when he started out too.

His acting/role reminds me of Jung Yong Hwa's in You're Beautiful - wooden eye candy - except Shin Woo actually had some swoonable scenes.

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now it's pretty good in SG lol xD

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Yesh I know what you mean about Jung YongHwa. It was pretty wooden at times, but his hotnness covered it up (most of the time)

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I'm starting to think that you two have dipped into the New Year's Eve stash too early. (Psst, you still have two more days!)

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Yeah, they started early. Probably, in accordance with "Secret Garden" time. hahaha

I love their conversations because that is realism, at its best!

Keep them coming in the new year!

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Ha ha is this our new form of news delivery? I love it. It's hilarious.
Watch out for the fan girls!

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Can all updates be in this format? Not that they were boring before, but I just can't get enough of the banter between the two of you. ^__^

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hahaha...yes, please

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I LOVE this format as well. I laugh every time!! (in the editor's choice 2010, in the Lee Min Ho post, and here.) More please.

That said, that house - "dime a dozen"? O.o Where can I get mine?

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Too many Asians live in these types of homes abroad. And drive luxury cars.

Location, location, location.
Some of these are located way out in the suburbia boon-docks, so what's a $500K shoebox in a densely-populated hip city or Asia = the same $500K can actually buy one of these 10-BR, - kitchen monstrosities (if the location is way out there).

If you're taking this magnitude of abode and same land area set in a prime district. Then yes, perhaps he's chaebol-rich because it would likely start $6 million and up in any city that has designer locations on the global map.

To each their own. Contentment is key to zen.

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I agree x100... I don't know too much about Virginia (that's what the caption says in his the picture of his house), but location is key. You could get a humongous house in some states in the south but go to places like New York or nice Cali neighborhood,,,you'll get a dinky house for the same cost...

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As a person who lives in Maryland, because I can't afford Virginia, his house is probably pretty expensive. Keep in mind, a lot of politicians and the like who work in DC, live in Virginia. That being said, I wonder if they want to adopt a daughter???

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I'm from northern Virginia! And I can tell you first hand that those kind of houses ARE a dime a dozen around here (maybe not elsewhere.) And they all cost well over a million each. Which confirms that his family must be pretty loaded.

Now, I'm curious as to where in VA that house is located... Not that I'm going to stalk or anything...

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Oh, I didn't mean that the house its self was a dime a dozen. I meant the price. Those houses are cheaper the more southern you go or the more far out in the country you go.

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Well if the house is indeed in Virginia then that house would indeed cost a fortune. I know so.

In fact, even without showing his family's fortune, Philip Lee does look and act posh. Oozes with classiness. :)

He'll look equally good & appealing with or without his long hair.

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I always found his face to look like a plastic surgeons remake, to the point of disturbing ....not one feature looks natural and real,his own children wont look related to him. But I guess it works for some of you. His sister and father got degrees at the same time,( very smart family)

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Yeah I totally agree. You guys are comedy gold :)

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javabeans: Do you think I’m that cheap?
girlfriday: Yes.

lol! epic!

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LOL, new format for news update?

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I totally dig this new format!

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But I loved him in Legend! He was really cool and that attitude was what his role demanded of the actor. Don't be so harsh on him please!

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I remember some people were so excited when it was revealed he would be cast in secret garden. I hadn't watch him before so when I saw him on SG, I never found him hot or talented about acting.
I think it is a taste differency :S

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I think he looks good. About his acting... well I think he's just playing his role. I also think that a guy with character is hot and he seems to have lots of it.

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LOL. He kinda reminds me of Han Ye Seul xD
She was born in the US and speaks English fluently....
I LOVE PHILLIP LEE IN SECRET GARDEN though.
Haven't seen him in Legend, but his acting's not that bad.
When I heard him speak English though, I was surprised...
Then I saw this article:

http://asianfanatics.net/forum/topic/523277-many-interesting-facts-that-never-been-known-about-phillip-lee/

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Btw, I forgot to credit this to AsianFanatics (:

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chincha??
and his korean is pretty good too!
he even has his own company???!?!?

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I am feeling the sexy but I totally understand why they give him simple caveman lines. It makes it hard for me to feel for his character.

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Aww, I like him in The Legend (: he did his role of being cold and whatevers lol. I do like him with the facial hair more though mmm. Manlier?

& I like Lee Jia too! I love her as Sujini~ but her later roles were a tad bleh... At least she's not too bad in Athena right now.

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is she chaebol too...?
as far as i know JUng SO Min is a reacl life chaebol...
i think her character in bad guy is more like her in social status than anything else.. hahahaha
I am going out of topic...
Miahne *bows*

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He has really powerful screen presence. Didn't know who he was and thought he has been in the bz for years. (sorry but I've only been in K-drama for less than 2 years.) I think he should get the girl for a while at least in SG.

The picture of the mansion...is that in South Pasadena California? There are tons of these houses in So. CA. True.

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it's virginia :)

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lol...
people who supposedly knew Phillip in the states b!tched about him on youtube....calling him a handsome, nice? guy but arrogant. who wouldn't be coming from a rich family??

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He does have the arrogant look . Perhaps arrogant character will suit him next. He is not my cup of tea. Found him to be stiff in Secret Garden.

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I swear, arrogant really doesn't mean a whole lot when you're talking about a public figure. I know of ONE famous person and people talk about him all the time like he's a butthole, but really it's 'cause they come up to him in Wal-Mart or where-ever and ask for his autograph when he's trying to buy laxatives or whatever for his mama, and he's like screw you! Or he's with his family (and since he's on tour all the time that's rare) and people want to take pictures of him and all he wants is to eat with his family. I don't care what anyone says about a famous person, 'cause 9 times out of 10 it's because they got blown off while they were trying to do something else. I know the dude is cool, but he just can't be "On" all the time. It's unrealistic to expect that from anyone.

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good point. i also read a lot of bashing about him on youtube from people that met him in his college days. but can't judge unless you truly know the person.

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Couldn't agree more.

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uhh thats what happens when ur a celebrity...I dislike when ppl say stuff like that because honestly it comes with the territory...if you dont want that kind of fame...be a stunt person lol...btw johnny depp isnt like that...neither is george clooney...or will smith...or hugh jackman and they are way bigger stars...so some learn to roll with the punches while others fail:( I say this from experience not to be a flamer.

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Hahahaha!...yes please do continue to deliver news in this format!

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wow...many ppl are praising Lee Jia in Athena...you still feel she's not improved javabeans? lol. Tbh, I can't really tell....but her voice is kinda sweet which kinda goes against her badass character...

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Oh I love your new format. LOL funny.

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I love Lee Jia... and I do think she has improved.

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Hotness? He looks like someone bashed him in the middle of face with a 2x4 and it never recovered.

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I think its totally the hair, if he loses that he is just another typical Korean guy.

I love this way of delivering the news too. So funny!

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Proof here on Dramabeans that Philip Lee is as capable as any Kdrama pretty boy of sporting a range of artfully tousled coiffes: http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/javabeans122/drama/iyagi/iyagi2/iyagi12-062.jpg

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These houses are everywhere. I can drive less than 5 minutes in 3 directions and run into 3 different neighborhoods with the same type. And that is NOT 10 bedrooms. Tons of them of for sale or under foreclosure too. Ahhh. Florida.

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Honestly, I get that you guys don't have to like anything/everyone but this continued snarkiness (and negativity) is getting really old. I think he has a lot of screen presence and I liked him in Legend - he convinced me plenty with his portrayal of the Blue Dragon. As for the character he's playing in SG, have you though that maybe he is just interpreting the character as he was given? If he really, truly had bought his way into the industry, do you not think he'd start with a leading role? How about you give him a chance to grow as an actor before you label him pertly as a "no talent?"

And to reiterate, snarkiness is fun in some instances but when that begins to be your trademark for each and every single thing you talk about, it's just a turn off.

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wow...if u are so bitter about their sense of humour, why do you continue to read this website. Lol. Warning pal...you are so gonna get warned big time.

I'm not one, just curious why similar situations have been happening...and continue to happen. Cheers.

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I love JB and GF's snarkiness. LOL. Tell me why I never get bored with it? :D

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I don't find DB to be overly snarky at all (and the same is true for this post... but then again, I happen to agree about Philip Lee's lack of acting ability). To me, the banter between JB and GF is deliciously entertaining.

And to the pointedly sighing JB: Hwaiting!!! This, too, shall pass.

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Ha,ha, I love their banter and all of the snarkiness. It's a refreshing change from the normal articles full of nothing but fangirliness (if that's even a word). In the real, mature world people have differences of opinions about many things and should be free to express them.

If you are looking for pages and pages of nothing but praise-even when it's not deserved, but because you like a particular actor/actress then this may not be the blog for you.

I sooo enjoy the banter and recaps. Keep 'em coming and I'll keep returning!

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Where are all of these people coming from?!! I am honestly bewildered at the proliferation of all the negative comments and straight up personal attacks against JB and GF. :(

@JB and GF
You guys are too too adorable for words. :) I second the request that all future articles be written in this format! Happy New Year!! *hugs* :)

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I agree! I read the articles on this delicious blog often, as well as the comments (which sometimes are just as entertaining as the articles!). Yet I've noticed recently that there has been an increase in negative nellies upright criticizing JB and GF. I might not always agree with them (but hell, they must drink some awesome juice because I usually do and crack up while reading), but uh... this is not MY blog or YOUR blog! If it really bothered me so much, I'd just stop reading it! They don't have to write to satisfy you, they write this blog because they want to. They write what they want, how they want, and when they want. That's the idea of a personal blog.

Go JB and GF! I<3 you guys (or errr shall I say gals)!

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you know you're up there if you start getting negative comments. jb and gf rock!^^

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It just goes to show that you really can't please everyone. JB and GF can get really bold with their writings, and these spark some interesting 'exchanges' of opinions among the readers - as evident in the recent 2-thread debate on SG - and also make the two prone to having detractors.

I do enjoy this new thread format of JB & GF. And the banter and the snarkiness? FUN! ;) With the wit and creativity of these two, expect the formats of their posts to evolve from time to time.

Oh well, there will always be readers who will have a different sense of humor, have lower tolerance for twisted fun, or have the itching need for constant debate. Or have the masochistic tendency to expose themselves to stuff that they don't really enjoy... just like what I did when I endured MSOAN up to episode 10. ;) (Curiosity made the cat suffer.)

Aaand... oh yeah! I'm a Philip Lee fan. ;) He's HOT! Not so sure of his acting chaps, but he's HOT. Well, depending on his dedication to acting, I think he can improve his skills. Nothing is unattainable if you want it so bad. (So if I want him bad enough, will I... hmmm.) ;)

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Ever since the site became rather known in the net I've read some blogs either praising/bashing JB to high heavens on a personal level. It's sad, really. I think they tend to forget that, well, this IS a blog and not some formal news outlet or summat that does not have any business of sharing their opinions at all..

And also weird. I mean, I tend to disagree with a lot of what the girls say here (esp. with LJA >_<) but hey, it's not like they're sending subliminal messages to my brain saying I should agree with them 100%.

Ah, I'm rambling. o_o

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Go somewhere else that is not here. OR come up with something that we call CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. What you're saying is just whiny... and kind of against every single point of this site. There's fan sites, if you want that. This ain't a fan site.

This is DRAMABEANS: DECONSTRUCTING KDramas and Kpop culture.

We do our happy little fangirling, but the entire purpose of this site is to think critically and criticize what we are watching as entertainment. If all you want is fangirling, there are a million sites dedicated to that purpose. Go find one.

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You tell 'em!

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Huzzah! You tell 'em, girlfriend.

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Took the words right out of my mouth.

Man, where ARE these people coming from? And what is it about "blogs" and "deconstructing k-dramas" that they do not understand? How about respecting opinions, people?

I fully respect JB & GF's opinion about Phillip Lee, although I think he's actually trying his best in his character (...not that means much sigh. His character is so not fun when it could be so much more. Also I like the wimpy secretary - he has the best laugh out loud scenes EVER).

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I think enough comments have been said about this, but I still want to add that I <3 JB and GF!

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all right, all right, let's break it up, people.

listen, we all know JB and GF can get a little snarky. mean, to some people. but we exercise a level of tolerance for snark here that is ridiculously high, just because that is the nature of this blog. apart from snark, we also bring a lot of critical thought and dialogue to the table. now if at the end of the day, you don't like how things are run, you best find another blog to go to, hun. if this is crossing the line for you, then we get that. but at when all's been said and done, it's still their blog. sorry.

off tangent now, i'd just like to ask how you're gonna be able to recap ep 15 if you can't move past the infamous secret garden bed debacle? ...JW. :)

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I can't find anything handsome about Phillip Lee. Pray, I only watched him in SG, but the character he portrays is so flat and boring.

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Hmm, I really liked him in The Slingshot. I think he has a very 'easy', natural sexiness about him (he was sex on legs without having to try at all in that drama!), as well as some demanding screen presence. I also think he looks very good different from other actors, and yeah, I really like him.

Also, I'm very surprised to hear that he spoke 'no Korean', as he put it, when he came to Korea, because his accent is very native, like Han Ye Seul and Lee Jia's (and not like Daniel Henney's, lol). Perhaps he was just lacking the vocabulary. I notice that a lot of foreign-born Koreans have a stellar accent and grammar when they first come here, but they're terribly lacking in vocabulary - can't read novels or newspapers, get stuck on some unusual vocab when talking, etc. - but they can catch up pretty quick with enough exposure that gets their vocabulary up to par. Perhaps he was like that.

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Again thanks to JB and Gf for saying all the things I love to hear... whether we agree or not ;)

And I totally agree! I loved him in Slingshot. Now that SG is a completely different story of... H.A.M.

Oh and Lee Jia... Is it me or is something wrong with her face? I zoomed through ATHENA and am liking it so far, though I really don't feel connected to any characters besides Jung-woo, Sung-cheol and (hilarious) Ki-soo. Jia's character should be significant at this point but NOPE. I do give her credit for her stunts. She's doing great with proving that her character should be where she is, however I like that darkness to her character and her scenes with Jung-woo aren't even. They don't mesh. But I hold out hope...No I'm kidding, I don't but I think she won't matter much so all is well. I always think she's passable, like Philip (in SG). Limited scenes is key.

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He DID have the funniest line in Ep 14about beating up JW, but it was so fast I almost missed it!

I agree that he has a presence on screen and a beatiful physique, but I can't tell if his Korean is any good, or not.

If I told him he had a beautiful body, would he hold it against me?

Let's not count the fact that he is rich against him.

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I don't find him attractive, and he looks extra old in SG, bad actor too. Ep 14 should be watched ASAP, it's good.

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well it is not out of the norm because life is just like that. connections is what get you in the door. I credit him for wanting to break into this industry. If i was that rich; i would just enjoy my life. But i quess the rich have too much money and the next step they want is fame. figures! lolz

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what" wrong with you !!!! look at his dam lips ONE PART SEXY NOW HIS BODY TWO PART SEXY AND VOICE WITH HE SPEAKS ENGLIH THREE PART SEXY PHILLIP LEE IS A CUTIE!!!!!

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Now that's a gloomy looking mansion. Unwelcoming.

I'm only interested in Houdini's mansion, and his promise to his wife after his death and it's linked to my bdate. I was invited to go up there for Halloween but my friends were too spooked to allow me to go. People freaking out talking about the spirit world. It's amusing. Who here know what I'm really talking about?

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Soooo, he is a Chaebol AND the Dark Lord of the Elves?! Omo, be still my beating heart!! :P

Question, if you pit a Chaebol- Elf Lord against a Chaebol- diplomat, who will win?

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I don't mind him in SG - he's like a little haven of calm and relative maturity amongst the nut jobs, and every comedy needs a straight man.

Don't know about his acting in Legend, but "Let's beat him up" in episode 14 was delivered in a nice, deadpan way. He might surprise us yet.

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Elf-Lord. Always :D

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(disclaimer: just marathoned the Lord of the Rings trilogy last week, and I was reminded of the awesomeness that is Legolas. Hence, I am partial to Elf-Lords. Or any person with super-human abilities, tbh)

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Mellowyel, you HAVE to see this then! Diadda made this vid when I lamented that a small part of me died because I will never get to see Philip Lee play Legolas. Enjoy! :P http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7MSJ0BB7

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I have to have warm fuzzies for him because he's from ye good olde alma mater (one of them anyway). And I have to believe the Lee family is made of good eggs from this old news bit:

http://www.gwu.edu/explore/mediaroom/newsreleases/gwreceives1milliongifttofunduskoreanstudentexchangeprogram

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WOW ... his family is really something ... WOW ... Damn can i marry him right now

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Waves a good old Colonial banner at ya! I knew it was GW from the alumni rag talking about the endowment, but didn't want to mention it. BTW, moving to Korea may be the only way to get the alumni office from calling asking for $$ 8-)

Ok, seriously people - that house is pretty danged big, but VA prices are probably 1/5 of what it would cost in CA. Location is everything.

STG is a nice enough company. I don't know what you have to do to rate as a chaebol but in the IT world, it's a nice company, mostly a government contractor - one of a bunch in the area.

And before anyone starts talking about "famous universities" GW is famous for a) being in downtown DC b) costing an arm and a leg (scholarships are your friend) c) having the hospital where R. Reagan was treated and d) the engineering school in particular is known as being pretty tough - back in the day they used to flunk out half the freshman. The Lee family isn't unusual in this area with so many family members going there. If you live around here, it's an excellent commuter school particularly for part-time students who are co-op-ping or whose employers pay for tuition - 3 members of my family are graduates (I'm Columbian College, the other 2 are SEAS).

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hahaha ... JB & GF .. i think you girls are already celebrating New year ... SMELL SOJU ... LOL ..
about Philip Lee .. i think he was lot better in THE LEGEND than some K POP IDOLS who cannot act ... OPPS did i say "Kim Hyun Joong" ?? sorry ...
i really love him in The story of man ... HE IS HOT, SEXY, HANDSOME, WITH DEGREE,...and NOW RICHHHH .... wait can i have him Please ... i want to live in that McMANSION ..hehehe

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Okay, I think I must have lower standards, but Philip seems quite hot to me- "Dark Elf" is right on the money! :)

And it helps that his character in SG is one of the consistent, grown-up characters who seems to do and say all the right things.

JB/GF, I admit the new format makes reading the news a little trickier. I like it, but the straight up news was a quicker browse and I imagine easier for you two as well... want to make sure you gals focus your awesome energy to your recaps!

:)

But can I say somewhat off-topic? You gals are da bombs for saying what you mean the way you mean it even if some rather brash, vocal people somehow find it insulting that you air your views on your blog that 'sours' theirs.

You should consider it a compliment that people are saying you have so much sway over the "opinion of the masses" that they're annoyed when you make statements they consider unfair. :)

Hope you, like others who are coming under the same assault, take it light-heartedly and continue to love doing what you do here in the name of passion-for-intelligent-kdrama-discussion!

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He is not just any dark elf Fan, he is THE Dark Elf. As in Dark Lord of all the Elves! :P
It took me about 2 hours or more, to finish the latter episodes of The Legend ' cause I was too busy taking screencaps! :)
This one is my favorite! http://www.flickr.com/photos/54669715@N04/5269238228/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54669715@N04/5304088761/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/54669715@N04/5269238232/

Diadda made this vid when I lamented that I will never get to see him play Legolas. Enjoy! :P http://www.megavideo.com/?v=7MSJ0BB7

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Philip Lee, considering he's new to acting in a high stress and deliver environment, he's doing really well. He is perfect as the hot stunt master in Secret Garden. Yes, he is very beautiful, but I don't think anyone is complaining. Remember when Dennis Oh entered the scene because of good looks, lordy what a terrible actor. Philip is way out ahead compared to Dennis. And I notice when he's on screen, I'm interested. Not once during SG did I think he was bad in skills, just held back a little maybe, which could also be direction. I for one vote YES on Philip Lee.

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Yeah, I also think that Philip Lee did/does a lot better than other rookies with no acting chops, like many idols, Dennis Oh, Daniel Henney, etc.... He may not be 'good', but he isn't painful to watch like many other good-looking people with good connections.

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How about Choi Siwon from Super Junior?? I just found out a few days ago that he is also some sort of a chaebol.

Anyways, back to Phillip Lee, I always find him weird looking. No comment on his acting and money.

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But wasn't Siwon disowned or something 'cause he chose to enter the entertainment industry?

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No, you got that wrong unnie.
His family threatened to disown him unless he broke up with me, but that's before his family actually met me. You know how loyal and wonderful Siwon is, so off course he refused to give me up.
But, I was raised with the notion that all honors are to be paid to your parents, and I refused to marry him without his parents blessing. I couldn't stand the thought that I would be the cause of the bad feeling between him and his parents.
But, when his parents actually met me, they were completely won over by my lethal combination of charm and adorableness! And now we are happily married! :)

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See, I knew there was a story behind it, but I didn't know the ENTIRE saga. I'm so glad that's all cleared up now, whew!

Of course, you are the most adorable littlest sister on the planet, what parental units wouldn't just turn somersaults in order to have you as daughter-in-law!

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You haven't told them about your Dark Elf though, have you?

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HAHAHAHA Dream on, sistah!

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Choi Siwon already has a GF of five years...

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To quote JB : "The denial. It's strong in these people." ;)

Off course I include myself in the " these people" category too...otherwise how will I mange to deny reality successfully enough to keep up this long long running joke of me being married to him? Let The Force of Denial be with you! :)

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in the beginning like all parents do. but they're proud of him now cuz he's done so well for himself. he still goes home to his parents once in a while (not really sure if he lives alone in his apartment since he doesn't dorm with the other sj members) so i'm pretty much certain that he ans his family are okay now.=)

he didn't get the seojoon treatment.=P

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Siwon actually lives at home with his parents right now. From what I've read, he's definitely chaebol status. Leeteuk said that Siwon's family is like one of the families from the BoF drama.

Boy definitely has his family money behind him. Even in Super Junior's debut days, he was running around in brand name clothing & accessories. While living in China, the SJM members said that if they go out to eat, Siwon pays :P.

Quote:
Siwon is a brother, a co-worker, a friend, and a bank -Han Geng & Kyuhyun

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I think he has grown a bit more manly looking in Secret Garden with the facial hair. In Legend, he looked really feminine. Back then, I even remembered which actress he looked like. Anyways, I thought he suited his mysterious character really well in Legend. I think what he lacks in acting, he sort of makes up a bit in screen presence, though by no means will I ever want to see him as the lead actor in anything.

At least he sounds natural speaking Korean! It is always weird to have Daniel Henney speak English so much in his works. Dennis Oh tries (mad props to him) but it sounds unstable.

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I know that no one will probably believe me, but he's actually from Northern Virginia. I was told that his parents weren't rich when he was growing up (I have family in VA who knew him and his family), but I guess they were well-connected somehow. He wanted to be a star, so they sent him over to Korea and came back with a newly made face. I don't know if he's nice or not, but, it's kinda cool that I'm separated from Hyun Bin by 4 degrees!

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It's funny, I had a hunch that that house fits right in the nova area. Not to mention well-off Koreans have a strong presence there.

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Fairfax, Arlington, Alexandria? Which? Alexandria is where all the Korean folks I know live.

Now, the "newly made face"? As in plastic surgery face?

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Yeah, unfortunately. I don't remember what he looked like before (I only vaguely remember the before photo), but I do remember talk about how he'd had work done when he got back and that people (my family members, anyway) were shocked by his lips, nose, and eyes (perhaps more so because he wasn't ugly to begin with). I'm pretty sure that he was from somewhere in Fairfax, since that's where all the Korean people I know live, haha. But, I'm not 100% sure.

(Also, my mother knew the family as well, and when she heard him speak Korean in "Secret Garden" she was surprised, so I'm assuming that he wasn't so great when he was still living in the States)

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I like him, think his acting has somewhat improved since he first came on screen.

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Phillip lee is sooo plastic and a really bad actor at that aswell. I really doubt he will make it very far in an acting career.

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i dont think he is that bad of an actor. He is still relatively new to the industry (he only has three dramas to credit atm) so it is understandable that he might not be the best actor. His acting isn't so horrible that i'd cringe and turn away from the comp screen, its lets just say acceptable.
I'm sure with more experience he would be a much better actor. I mean as much as I love Daniel Henney even though he has been in so many dramas his acting is still worse than Philip Lee's!! And at least Philip Lee has had more variety in characters (unlike some actors who are always type cast)

And although you may not like his appearance, he does not look plastic :(

so don't just write him off as a bad actor who won't make it far and plastic because you don't like the way he looks

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I have seen Philip Lee in TWSSG back in 2007. He was pretty good as a new comer. I definitely can see he is maturing as an actor.

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anybody (middle class) in US can live in that home just depending on the location...cuz if u live in a house like that in the South, the houses are really cheap. But if he have a house like that in California, it's like in the million range, so I wouldn't call a person rich just by looking at their house cuz location is pretty significant in the price range!!!!

I don't really like Phillip...his acting is not that great to me nor does his looks... but I do wishes him the best in his career!

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Its close enough to wash DC to be millionish. And BYJ went all the way there from NY to pay respects to Phillip's father.

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I think he’s not that bad in acting. I can see a lot of improvement at least he isn’t over the top when acting and he’s kindda okay in Legend and SG. Beside his role doesn’t ask too much of him.

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Even if you have a conversation like this in private I think it´s a bit too much to post it like this...

I´m not a fan of his or anything (though I actually really like him in Secret Garden) and normally I really really really really enjoy your articles, but this one was downright mean and on top of that only based on rumours.

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Ep. 14 is good! It almost makes up for all the awful in ep. 13 (almost). Don't give up, javabeans!

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i definitely think he is hot, although not a strong actor, but not bad either. i remember when he had english dialogue in story of a man, it was very unnatural and funny(unintentional) even though he spoke in perfect english. he has potential with the right role and heck. i don't mind staring at him on screen :)

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javabeans stop talking to yourself :))))))

haha i kid :D .... but that would be freakin' hilarious (to write this all by yourself,that is)

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I think his acting skill is not bad in Legend and in Story of a man . For LJA , her acting is weak , no expression and i don't like her acting at all .

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Loved this! Keep talking you two!

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:arms folded: Hmph, I don't care. I still love him. His acting isn't that bad and he's adorably hot. I'm good and cheap too ........... kissing you say?

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you guys are adorbs (never thought i'd ever use that word too)
but no fret its a compliment!

phillip lee does stand out a little differently in whatever he's in. i think he doesnt quite fit into the role of jong-soo because of his "americanness", like seeing lucy liu in a chinese movie.

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