Mary Stayed Out All Night: Episode 12
by javabeans
Pro: The episode had some fluffy, light, funny beats, which I’ve been missing lately.
Con: This show has LOST ITS MIND. The plot makes no sense at all.
Pro: At least the nonsensical plot is moving?
Con: But there’s no consistency to the characters!
Pro: How ’bout that awesome taunting look on Jang Geun-seok’s face above?
Con: Yeah, you got me there. But the plot! The story! The laws that govern human actions and emotions!
Pro: …Yeah, you got me there.
Con: I win! Oh god, I’m talking to myself. This show has driven me insane.
SONG OF THE DAY
Byul – “기억이 안나” (I Don’t Remember) [ Download ]
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EPISODE 12 RECAP
Seo-jun throws a hissy fit about the song, refusing to sing something inspired by Mary and Mu-gyul’s love, calling it sickening. Mu-gyul seethes to have his work thus debased, while Jung-in goes after Seo-jun.
Mary unpacks her luggage at Mu-gyul’s place, balking when Mu-gyul takes the blanket over to the bed. He assumes they’ll be sharing his bed, while she assumes nothing of the kind. She wants to buy another bed, the alternative being him sleeping on the couch, a choice he rejects due to his bad back. I think Mary’s missing the obvious solution: SHE sleeps on the couch.
(I hate when the ladies in dramas are such princesses, automatically assuming that the men will give up their beds for them and pouting if they don’t. You know what they say about assuming things…)
They compromise by splitting the bed down the middle, deciding that a flimsy curtain will keep them apart. Mary shrills at him on how to hang it up, complaining that he’s giving himself the larger half, and he pricks his finger in the process. Thankfully that’s enough to get them to stop carping at each other (bickering = cute, sniping = tiresome) and she rushes to his side and sucks the blood from this finger, which I guess is cute, though unsanitary. Mu-gyul suggests a kiss to commemorate the occasion, and I think Mary has officially gone insane because she declines.
Instead, she is preoccupied with questions of his relationship with Seo-jun and asks how things ended. He gives the vague answer that he told her to meet someone cooler than him, though there’s clearly more to it.
Jung-in asks Seo-jun the same question — about the breakup — which takes us to a flashback. She had been working on a film when she had been pulled aside by the fiancé she had just broken up with. He was a rich businessman, which suggests this was an arranged match brought about by her family, and he had been angry at the rejection.
Mu-gyul had arrived on set just in time to see Seo-jun emerging from the man’s car shaking off the grip he had on her wrist. He’d assumed the worst, that the man was her “sponsor.” (A sponsorship to an actress is one of those dirty open secrets in the industry, not unlike the casting couch. It’s akin to a mistress relationship; an actress sleeps with the sponsor, who in turn promotes her career.)
Mu-gyul had gone off and gotten drunk with another girl, and that was the end of that.
Lee Ahn joins their table at the restaurant to tell Seo-jun that he just barely managed to dissuade Manager Bang from suing her for assault. Jung-in picks upon on Ahn’s interest in Seo-jun and comments that he’s a good guy for Seo-jun, though she scoffs at that.
Jung-in tries to give Lee Ahn a sincere warning about Manager Bang, but Ahn has his own loyalty to preserve and waves that aside.
When Ahn leaves the table, he reports to Manager Bang that he was unsuccessful in convincing Seo-jun that the tabloid leak didn’t come from her.
Dad’s snack shop has an unexpected customer in the form of Mu-gyul’s mother, who is there with her luggage in tow. She hasn’t gone to Paris after all and feels guilty about the whole ring fiasco, so she apologizes to Dad about it, though he has no idea what she means.
While settling in to Mu-gyul’s studio, Mary finds the pawnshop claim ticket for her diamond ring, awed at how expensive it is. She asks hopefully if his mother will keep her promise to pay back the money, but Mu-gyul can’t quite lie and assure her of that, so he says he’ll pay it back instead.
When Dad calls Mary to ask what this ring business is, he’s upset to hear that Jung-in’s father gave her a ring, which Mu-gyul’s mother then pawned. He threatens to come right over and give Mu-gyul a good talking to, so Mary and Mu-gyul hurry to leave so they’re not home when Dad gets here.
Or, you know, you could just LOCK THE DOOR.
But no, they rush outside just as Dad turns the corner, and in a bid to remain out of sight, they decide to hide. IN A TRASH DUMPSTER. I kid you not.
Dad bangs on the garage door and yells a few threats, although he doesn’t barge right into the studio which just proves my point that the couple should have just stayed put. But if you prefer to hear the tirade from the inside of a trash can, who am I to stop you?
Dad hunkers down outside the door to wait for Mu-gyul to come home, forcing the couple to remain huddled in the freezing dumpster.
The smell of Dad’s ramyun wafts over to the hungry kiddos, although how anything wafting into their nostrils can smell appetizing is beyond me. You’re sitting IN A TRASH CAN.
Mary gets an idea and calls Jung-in, asking him to call her father away so she and Mu-gyul can go home. Jung-in does just that, and Dad reluctantly gives up his watch to hurry away.
Finally, Mary and Mu-gyul are free to go home and warm up in front of the heater. However, when they head to the bathroom to wash the garbage smell off, they find the pipes have frozen.
As Dad leaves his shop for the night, he finds Mu-gyul’s mother waiting for him outside. Without a place to go, Mom gives her luggage a pointed look and shoots Dad her best pathetic-puppy-dog look, trying to appeal to his sympathy.
Dad ends up offering her his spare room, but it comes with strings: Until she can repay the 10 million won needed to claim the ring, she will work at his snack shop. Also, she will help him break the kids up.
Mom briefly considers that her son won’t like her meddling in his relationship (you think?), but figures there’s no harm in signing, as there’s no guarantee that the adults’ efforts will break them up.
Yet when she hears that Mary has a fiancé with whom she is supposedly living at present, Mom grows offended for her poor baby. Oh, are we playing the “I can hurt my own son but nobody else can” game now?
Mom warns Dad not to fall for her, and the two assure each other that they are not each other’s types, thereby sealing their fates — no way they’re escaping a loveline of their own now.
Mu-gyul braves the cold weather to collect water for washing from an outdoor faucet, which is when Jung-in calls to confer about the title song. However, Mu-gyul’s panting and impatience to hang up spurs his imagination into overdrive, and he tries to prod Mu-gyul into telling him what he’s doing without asking. Mu-gyul has no idea the wayward turn Jung-in’s thoughts have taken, particularly as he half-squeals (from the cold) and grunts (from the exertion of hauling water) and barks out a dismissive, “Mind your own business!”
At home, he warms up the water and washes Mary’s face and hands with a towel, then settles in to his half of the bed. He can’t resist sneaking a peek over to Mary’s side, smiling as he watches her sleeping for a few moments.
In the morning, Mu-gyul walks Mary over to Jung-in’s house for the husband trade-off, and narrowly escapes being seen by her father. Dad’s there to scold Mary for giving the ring to Mu-gyul’s mother, calling her foolish for believing that she’d pay her back right away — turns out Mom got scammed (again) and wasn’t able to go to Paris after all.
Manager Bang drops by to meddle some more, offering to let Lee Ahn back into the drama (again)… if they get rid of Seo-jun (again). Jung-in isn’t going to let himself be manipulated like that, but Manager Bang warns that “If I die, I’m taking people down with me.” Earth, prepare to be scorched.
Jung-in takes Mu-gyul with him to scout out a location for the showcase, and as they drive over together, Mu-gyul makes a show of reading a text message from Mary. He coos over it excessively, getting all lovey-dovey, shooting Jung-in taunting glances while the latter sits there uncomfortably.
Jung-in gets his petty revenge, though, by slamming on the brakes. Mu-gyul pitches forward with the momentum, and Jung-in gets a childish sense of satisfaction — he even has to look away to hide his smirk. Getting his expression under control, Jung-in turns back to face Mu-gyul, asking innocently, “Are you okay?”
OH YOU TWO. Can we just have the Mu-gyul and Jung-in Comedy Hour, please? I’d forgive the lack of plot or logical character development if we could just see these two being petty and jealous and silly all the time.
The two men arrive at the venue, which Mu-gyul doesn’t like, suggesting a guerilla concert instead. The idea grabs Jung-in’s interest, but a phone call cuts this short and now it’s payback time: Seeing the caller’s name, Jung-in smiles widely and answers loudly, “Mary!”
Now it’s Mu-gyul who fidgets impatiently while Jung-in takes his time talking to Mary, making the conversation a lot more cozy-sounding than it actually is. For instance, he asks if she’s making dinner, and she says no. Ignoring the logical flow of conversation, he replies anyway, “I look forward to tasting your cooking,” which puzzles her. She has no requests for dessert, but Jung-in answers (for Mu-gyul’s benefit), “I’ll make sure to bring home the cake you like.”
At dinner, President Jung has another gift for Mary, which turns out to be concert tickets for the whole family. Jung-in spies the photo occupying the place of honor in his father’s wallet, which naturally strikes him as odd since it’s Mary’s mother, who looks just like Mary. That association just makes it creepier that President Jung requests Mary come to the concert with the ring, as he wants to see her wearing it. Gah, I swear this gothic plot is straight out of a VC Andrews novel.
Jung-in starts to put two and two together, and he asks Mary about their fathers’ friendship. She answers that they go back a long time, and that President Jung knew her mother before she met her father.
The most pressing concern is getting the ring back, and Dad assures Mary that he’ll get right on it. He orders Mu-gyul’s mother to retrieve it immediately, so off she goes in a huff to prove that she’s a woman of her word. Sort of. She buys a cheap ring to pass off as the diamond and gives it to Mary, who accepts it with a huge sigh of relief.
Battle of the Faux Redheads: Manager Bang confronts Seo-jun to take issue with the latter’s refusal to apologize. Come now ladies — one of you tarnished the other’s name and public image, while the other drew the other’s blood. How ’bout we call this one a wash?
Manager Bang urges Seo-jun to drop out of the drama, or get on her knees to beg forgiveness. Yeah, good luck holding your breath on that one.
Mu-gyul presents his bandmates with the score for the new song “Hello Hello,” and one glance is enough for them to declare him a sell-out. Where’s the “rock spirit”? This is total mainstream pop fluff — “Hyung, I’m disappointed in you.” Really, now? Is that the right thing to say to the guy whose coattails you’re riding?
Jung-in steps in to throw his weight behind Mu-gyul’s decision in writing a song to appeal to the mainstream, given that a drama OST should appeal to the mainstream.
Off to drown sorrows in drink. The boys glumly declare that Mu-gyul has abandoned rock and crossed over to the dark side. Mu-gyul joins them and says he’ll be making rock music till he dies, which sounds like the title to a bad rock song in and of itself. Unconvinced, the boys ditch him.
Rather unsporting of the oh-so-authentic rock musicians who don’t even write their own songs, yeah? Dude(s), you don’t make the music anyway — all you do is PLAY the stuff Mu-gyul writes. Also: This is hardly the stuff we’d expect of the guys who acknowledged that they had no talent and were considering quitting music in the first place. I think the Character Development Fairy must be drunk along with half the characters.
Seo-jun joins Mu-gyul at the table, apparently having turned on her Mu-gyul Homing Signal. She finds him adrift, mentally, unsure of what anything is anymore.
Perhaps she’s feeling sorry for him or maybe she realizes what a brat she was being earlier, but Seo-jun says she’ll sing the song after all. She’s his fan, whether he makes rock music, ballads, or dance songs.
An ultimately pointless but adorable exchange: On the morning of concert day, Jung-in and Mary come out of their rooms in various states of disarray — he’s just out of the shower, she’s just woken up and sports massive bedhead — and they stammer awkwardly around each other until they flee for safety.
The family dines that evening before the concert — Mary, Jung-in, The Worst Father In the World, and The Worst Father In the World Minus One.
Dad has been suspicious of how easily the ring was returned, and realizes it’s not the same one just as President Jung asks to see it. Though Mary doesn’t understand Dad’s rising anxiety, Jung-in clocks the unease on his face and clues in to the problem as President Jung takes a look and immediately knows it’s the wrong ring.
Jung-in smoothly offers up the explanation that Mary had found it too burdensome to wear such an expensive piece that he’d had an imitation made.
That spares them President Jung’s fury, but it also means a certain Worst Mother In the World is still at large, and it’s no great surprise that Dad finds that she has high-tailed it out of there. Sins of the mother get transmuted into sins of the son, so he goes off to take it out on Mu-gyul.
Jung-in drops Mary off at Mu-gyul’s that night, and she apologizes for not telling him about the ring. With his usual generosity, Jung-in doesn’t ask for an explanation and says there was probably a good reason for it.
Mu-gyul doesn’t love hearing Mary speaking fondly of Jung-in, but it’s true he did save her tonight, and therefore their three-way ruse. Mary explains about the fake ring, which upsets Mu-gyul because he’d told her he would take responsibility for getting it back.
Just as Mary explains that she didn’t know it was a fake until too late, an angry pounding sounds at the door. It’s Dad, and he’s fuming mad. Mary and Mu-gyul dash around like chickens with their heads cut off, trying to hide while Dad raises the (unlocked!) gate to barge in.
Oh, this again?
COMMENTS
So now we’re recycling plots from within the same episode? Are they running out of ideas or what?
Here’s the thing about the new writer/writing style. It’s different. It’s not glaringly obvious, but I think for those of us who are following each episode fairly closely, it’s pretty clear that a significant change occurred between Episodes 10 and 11. There are good and bad aspects of the shift, and I suspect the way you feel about the change may hinge upon which you find more important: movement versus consistency.
For instance, I actually liked Episode 11 a lot more than the previous ones, and felt like the drama finally figured out how to tell a decent hourlong story. Stakes were raised and more stuff happened, propelled by a zippy, sorta-wacky spirit. The problem is, people were suddenly acting way over the top and out of character from their established personalities, but that was the trade-off: More conflict and speedier plot, but not necessarily a smooth transition. That means that the characters in Episode 11 and 12 don’t feel like the same characters of Episodes 1 through 10 because they’re suddenly acting and reacting in weirdly exaggerated ways, which can be jarring since we’ve had 10 hours to get used to how they used to be.
Perhaps it might help to forget — as best as we can forget — what they USED to be like and just go with the flow, because I don’t think there’s an easy way to reconcile everything in a cohesive way.
Still, as much as I complain about the silliness of what happened, I’m sort of glad that at least there’s something to comment ON. For a while there I was bored silly because the drama felt so flat, but now we’re at the other extreme where things happen for no reason. But at least I’m not as bored as I was before.
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Tags: featured, Jang Geun-seok, Kim Hyo-jin, Kim Jae-wook, Mary Stayed Out All Night, Moon Geun-young
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1 kiki
December 15, 2010 at 9:17 PM
YAY!!! been waiting this whole day for the recap!
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Bunicutzika
December 18, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Dear Drama,
I' understand from your introduction that you're F. I'm too. I'm from Eastern Europe. I've started to watch TV kdramas last year after my national tv broadcast YI SAN. After that I've become a "fan" of K culture and seen a lot of kdramas & movies. For me, some aspects of love & parents respect are strange. I'll never undestand how a girl can be marryed to 2 guys and if she's married at least to 1 she doesn't make love with him. That's a motive to cancel the marriage both legal or clerical in my christian culture. Maybe the doubt in Asia can last for a least 100 days (for me 24 h)? Is it true? So for me it's a SciFi, but beacause I like the actors & music I'm still watching it. So, I can't undesrstand why at 24 Y.O she refuse to kiss him but accept to sleep w. him in the same house? Why? If she accepts 3K ring why to give it away? Does she want to make such a gorgeous gift to a reckless mother (she knwos her)? It's not possible if she has at least 3 neurons. So for me it's no change but the relationship bwn KMK & BJI. The girl Mae Ri unfortunately it's a little bit uggly & has strabismus. Maybe it's the writer's intent to make 2 powerfull men to be in love with a Cinderella (no money, no look, but innocent and good heart). How can she be innocent at 24 y.o.???? At 29 she will need a pickhammer and Kmales cannot afford it, unfortunately. That's life, not drama.
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2 Anh Nguyen
December 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM
Another flop of the year. They have such good cast and a fun premise. And they messed it up. OMG!
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srkambbs
December 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM
It just gets boring and boring...........Looks like a change of the writer didnt really make much of a difference...
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gala
December 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM
but I have to say, it feels more like a shoujo manga [manhwa?!] now. like, we have the main story there but it's very episodal and random.
i think i'm just enjoying it for the sheer purpose of seeing JGS and MGY acting alongside each other. it's really nice to see MGY act with someone her age.
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soyachan
December 15, 2010 at 11:09 PM
I agree with you. The show in this episode was like a rom-com manhwa as it could be. It wasn't bad for me. It's done the job to entertain me. I quite like it. I just hope it 'll end well and have more memorable scenes.
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BJ
December 16, 2010 at 4:24 AM
I couldn't agree with you more!!
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miss unknown
December 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM
agree!! I already stop watching since ep. 8 after a longgg patience...but can't hold it anymore...it's so boring now...there's seriously no plot point...
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spark67
December 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM
This is so sad...because I looove MGY. And despite myself, I like JKS. But other than Mery's father, there isn't a single likeable character in this drama. Seo Jun gets on my nerves as a snotty, devil-withOUT-a-cause attitude 24/7; Jung In is just...pretty candy but pretty boring and dull. The characters I DO LIKE? THE BAND members. They're cute and adorable. Why can't they be more of the plot? I mean, it's not like there IS a coherent one anyway. What a waste of talents. It gives me a bad reminder of the garbage that was "Princess Lulu" with Kim Jung Eun and Jung Jun Ho. Yick. I think people forget that it IS about the writing and viewers are not as stupid as they appear. So again...I think this story was based on a very popular Korean comic book but is the story in the comic book as asinine as this one? I mean, I admit I don't read that many Korean comic books, but I DID read "Goong" or the English version would be "Princess Hours" and I actually liked it. But this just leaves me breathless...with its absurdity. But what's more absurd? This drama without any coherency or consistency in its plot or me for liking the few MGY/JSK moments that keeps me watching when I really should have abandoned ship long ago? Sigh...
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Anh Nguyen
December 15, 2010 at 10:08 PM
Yeah right? Much to my admiration to MGY, her two projects only sounded good at the beginning. I don’t even feel disappointed anymore. I just feel bored and frankly don’t care.
I personally don’t like the manhwa authors’ works. Full House the drama is much better than the original story.
There is one manhwa that I always hope they would turn into a drama – The bride of the water god. But only if we have good writer + cast + director….
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a
December 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM
BRIDE OF THE WATER GOD yes!!!!!!!girl,YOU should be making the decisions for KBS!!1
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alice
December 15, 2010 at 11:07 PM
I agree. I would watch Bride of the water god. I read it online until i couldn't find the site anymore. Do you guys know where I could read it? Or atleast tell me what happened?
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jadetaia
December 16, 2010 at 12:55 AM
i got hooked on that manhwa too!!! it's still going, i think. i read it at
http://www.mangareader.net/110/the-bride-of-the-water-god.html
(they should have up to chapter 85) and am collecting the volumes. it's so beautifully drawn, that i would love to see it live ... perhaps with some of the cinematography style of Secret Garden? that show has some gorgeous shots too ...
a
December 16, 2010 at 1:38 AM
try animea
and mangatashokan
x0mi07
December 16, 2010 at 4:29 AM
OMG! go go go!!!! bride of the water god! fantasy drama set in the olden times....XD XD XD
swoon for the beautiful drawings! <3 <3 <3
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Anh Nguyen
December 16, 2010 at 4:49 AM
And very "Korean" melodrama story! If they can make Bride of the Water God into a drama! OMG! But it requires a lot of care though since the manhwa is sooooo beautiful.
I can totally see JGS as Habaek !
sweetaddiction
December 16, 2010 at 7:21 AM
OMG YES, they should. Bride of the Water God is really good although it got a bit confusing around chapter 60ish, but still good. I could totally see Keun Suk as the Water God.
But MSOAN-wise, I'll just stick to the recaps. They are more entertaining that watching the drama itself. How sad for the talent wasted here of the actors and actresses.
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Ara
December 16, 2010 at 8:40 AM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck yeah!!!
Bride of the water god should be a drama!!
Ooh. Maybe they can make the manhwa "pink lady" a drama or better a MOVIE as well.
That would be rad.
SteamyBun
December 15, 2010 at 10:59 PM
Skimming through the recaps really does make me sad to see that it's not a very well-loved show, but then I pass over something funny or adorable and am tempted to start watching. I mean come ON, they have three of the hottest (and talented) young actors in one show and they screwed it up? I'm going to watch it. And force myself to love it just to spite the universe lol.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 11:06 PM
yes, how right you are, SteamyBun!
how COULD the powers-that-be behind this drama allow such potential be wasted?
i am sure the actors themselves are losing their minds over the way the drama has turned out...
such a tragedy... :(
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SushiS2
December 16, 2010 at 10:52 AM
It's actually really awesome. i don't know what people are looking for but this is a really good drama.
it's light and warm.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 11:34 AM
SushiS2, firstly i do agree with you that the drama is light and warm, and sweet and funny as well ;)
and personally i have never said or thought that MSOAN is REALLY BAD, but more of how it does not come across as SUBSTANTIAL enough PLOT/STORY-WISE, especially considering the potential of the line-up of A-list actors in it...
What i believe most viewers are disappointed in is by how this drama does not manage to adequately answer this question : What is the drama ALL ABOUT?
If it is only to showcase the fluff and craziness of the young, with young love, arranged marriages and parental disapproval, thus the existence of the double-fake-marriage, then it has failed because the premise has not been explored at length or intelligently...the execution comes across as full of ambiguity and illogical at best;
If it is about exploring the psyche of the restless youth in the indie-rock world and the issue of responsibility and commitment, while clashing with the rest of the world around them, then what the drama has managed to show so far does not even come close to delving into that premise because it just seems to skim through it all without any resolution or defined message for viewers to take away;
If it is about familial problems attributed to less-than-perfect parents, once again, the drama has only managed to recycle tired elements from countless other dramas, which are then seen as being thrown haphazardly into this drama in the hope that everything will work out...
I think MSOAN is suffering from an identity crisis - what kind of drama it wants to be known as and the message/s it is trying to tell the viewers through its plot/story.
Maybe it has bitten off more than it can chew on the plot/story front and has veered off course from its initial intended destination and is now struggling to get back on track with a new writer...
A major complaint among viewers is how the drama does not stretch the potential of the A-list actors and may have wasted the talent of the actors, who have shown their immense talent in previous projects...
I may be totally wrong with all that i have said but that is my humble take on the whole MSOAN issue... ;)
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 11:49 AM
however, i have to add that as the drama has not ended, let's hope that the remaining episodes can manage to turn things around and prevent MSOAN from becoming a train-wreck (which it has already become to some viewers)... ;)
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 12:23 PM
maybe i could condense everything i have said so long-windedly in just the following sentences :
if MSOAN's story is only to show attractive and cute main actors talking, posing, moving, smiling and being cute with each other, while the rest of the cast are put there simply to get on the main actors' and the viewers' nerves and drive them and us insane, then what is the point of it all?
what is a drama without the DRAMA - intense, exciting, intelligent, thought-provoking elements that make or break a drama?
what is the point of making the actors go through a merry-go-round of the same, tired, old histrionics/craziness without a purposeful goal/destination in sight?
what is the purpose for the existence of a drama if the viewers are not invested in, or could not care less, with what is happening to/with, or will happen to, the characters in it or how the plot/story unfolds because the drama does not challenge, intrigue, touch or move us intellectually, emotionally or psychologically?
or worse, what is the point of making a drama that just insults our (the viewers') intelligence?
(which i hope is NOT what MSOAN is doing at the moment)
serenity56
December 16, 2010 at 12:00 AM
agree. waste of talents. JGS and MGY are such good actors but this isn't right, the plot of the drama just killed them. KJW is also awesome, he has shown his acting ability in Bad Guy.
I am afraid that most people are watching this not because of the plot anymore, but because they're too cute to look at. I gave up watching, so i just rely on the recap. in the future, if i see or read any GOOD improvements on the plot i might decide to watch again, but for now, i am not so sure.
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Msles59130
December 19, 2010 at 2:20 AM
Exactly! I am pretty easy to please, but I am too bored to watch this now. Nothing ever happens, well not since THE kiss.
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3 oyo(;
December 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM
I love when theyre jealous!
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4 Ace
December 15, 2010 at 9:20 PM
Oh, JB! Re: Pro vs Con - You crack me up! And I haven't even started reading your recap...
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5 pipiet
December 15, 2010 at 9:22 PM
conversation make me laughing hard.....hahaaa
im pro...but agreed with co....this drama so boring but i like jgs so much...so im still watching...hehee
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6 amg01
December 15, 2010 at 9:23 PM
I am incline to say "This is the worst Drama of 2010", and Play Full Kiss being in second one, what a waste of talent SHHHHHSS!!!! : O {
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noob
December 15, 2010 at 9:36 PM
I would have to say that playful kiss was the worst... (gotta run and hide~~) but , this is pretty bad too... what a waste of talents, especially because I adore MGY and KJW :(
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Carina
December 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM
I think Playful Kiss is better than this, and I'm no huge fan of PK... but I figure at least PK just had a non-existent plot, and none of the rampant character inconcinstency problems that MSOAN has. :/
Though I still LIKE MSOAN better even though I think is it the worse drama quality-wise because Mu-gyul >>>>>> annoying prissy Mr. Perfect Seung-jo, IMO.
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july
December 16, 2010 at 12:18 AM
In my opinion, PK is worse than MMM. I like MMM, I'm still enjoying the show especially MGY and JGS despite the negative criticism of some viewers/fans.
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candy09
December 17, 2010 at 12:47 PM
I beg to disagree. PK is much worse!!!!
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GreenTea
December 17, 2010 at 7:54 PM
LOL!!! Maybe I'll keep watching MMM because I am a fan of JGS. I got way more addicted to PK, but got kinda bored late toward the end. Oh Drama God, where are all the good and fun and heartwarming dramas these days....
amg01
December 15, 2010 at 9:55 PM
I am trying to figure a "Proper Name" for the "Worst" dramas, since we already have the "Beanie Awards" for the best dramas, and more than one deserves a special award for being really bad.
Any Suggestions??
: O }
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December 15, 2010 at 11:30 PM
what about "Meanie Awards"? Viewers become mean people out of sheer frustration over the story/directing/acting......
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Madison
December 16, 2010 at 8:17 AM
[Viewers become mean people out of sheer frustration over the story/directing/acting……]
hahahaha I seriously laughed for 5 minutes at this comment
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alice
December 16, 2010 at 12:46 PM
Or Weanie awards. W-for worst
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ce
December 15, 2010 at 11:00 PM
Why is Playful Kiss the worst? There's Cinderella's Sister, Bad Guy, Runaway Plan B, I Am Legend...PK had bad editing, weird directing, and some bad writing (except for the YouTube episodes) but the characters: Oh Hani, Seung-jo's mom, Duckie, & Hera made viewers love it. I'm not a PK addict, also not a KHJ fan (in fact I didn't like the idea initially of KHJ as the male lead for PK), didn't watch the first 2 episodes until now, but I gave it a chance and I must say that the Korean version despite the mistakes on the technical stuff is better than the other versions. I'm looking forward to Jung So Min's future projects and I'll have an open mind about KHJ too.
The same for MSOAN, people are still watching because of the two leads. And it hasn't ended yet so we can't judge if it's the worst or not. You'll never know if they can redeem the craziness during the last four episodes. For SG, we also don't know if it'll be the best or not since there are still 10 more episodes.
But still, if that's your opinion, then fine. For some, they say that BOF was the worst drama last year...
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alice
December 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM
At least PK and BOF made some viewers anticipate the upcoming episodes. MSOAN just is... blah. I don't even look forward to them. It's like, yeah so Mary is going to JI and then again to MG and then back to JI and then back to MG... what are we watching again? I got lost in between all that...
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kitten
December 17, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Still can't get over JGS won the yahoo buzz awards and KHJ just placed 2nd? :) :)
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YesungBiased
December 16, 2010 at 5:13 AM
Why is Cinderella's Sister nominated for the worst? It had good writing, it had a good soundtrack, good filmography etc.
Things just started to drag a little after halfway, but it was still good nonetheless. I'm sure there's worse dramas out there.
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indigowine
December 21, 2010 at 4:27 AM
agree.
CS might've been the best drama of the year if only they make Eun Jo died (or. okay.. dissapear) at the end of the episode, cause that'll be superb! The only bad thing about CS is the way they ended it =(
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cloudy_sky
December 16, 2010 at 4:24 PM
I disagreethough, PK might be slow but there were quite a fair bit of meaningful n poignant moments, and was much better executed than this, it's a real pity n a waste of the 3 young talents, but honestly I feel like the charm of this show has died a long time back.....alot of ppl are hanging on cos of the cuteness and chemistry but the characters has no depth n the PLOT!!!! Im just speechless....sad for the cast, I guess at the end of the day, the plot n script are really the driver of our emotions, as much as I like the cast, this is a real mess :(
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frappuccino
December 19, 2010 at 9:29 PM
err... "poignant" moments in PK? was there any at all? lol. I respect your opinion but it's one adjective I'd never use for PK, even a bit. ;) I haven't seen much of this M3 drama, but I guess I'll try to check how these good actors try to make something out of this seemingly weird plot.
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7 soli
December 15, 2010 at 9:27 PM
Sorry JKS...but..terrible..Ugh
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8 Clare
December 15, 2010 at 9:29 PM
....episodes are getting to nowhere they are going around and around....and what's with the creepy dad who is trying to get Mary to become his lost love or something.....
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zan
December 15, 2010 at 9:48 PM
YEAH!!! i totally agree with you.. and totally creepy dad!!
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9 YesungBiased
December 15, 2010 at 9:39 PM
"Can we just have the Mu-gyul and Jung-in Comedy Hour, please? I’d forgive the lack of plot or logical character development if we could just see these two being petty and jealous and silly all the time."
I second that. i don't know why they didn't include humor along with jealousy earlier. it's hilarious and adorable, and i hope there's more!
i hope there's more funny and adorable Jung In and Mary moments too!
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10 cuteangelika
December 15, 2010 at 9:40 PM
thanks for the recap... i cant explain it but i still love this show. Im an analyst at work so I tend to have dramas as my refuge to stop analysing and just enjoy it... and so far, im enjoying this, it tugs my heart and gets the message across me. I guess it's one of those that when you love it, you love it but when you dont, you dont.
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mindless
December 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM
I so agree!! This drama has so many faults but I keep coming back for more. I don't mind leaving my mind at home at all =)
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Asiandramafan
December 17, 2010 at 5:37 PM
Aye, aye.. same with me. I love this series with it's faults and all.
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11 Carinne
December 15, 2010 at 9:43 PM
The car scene betwn Mu-gyul and Jung-in is the best part.
:^ , ^:
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12 Pat
December 15, 2010 at 9:43 PM
JI looks so pretty with shower hair. I read the recaps just for the photos........ plot having gone so far astray. But these guys are such a candy treat.
(Bad guy was WORST than playful kiss treacherous actually)
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13 kaigou
December 15, 2010 at 9:44 PM
"I think the Character Development Fairy must be drunk along with half the characters."
I think we should just start doing shots whenever any of the fairies show up and/or show signs of heavy drinking -- the Character Development Fairy, the Exposition Fairy, the Tension-Building Fairy, the Plot Development Fairy, and the inevitable -- appearing soon in an episode near you -- Majorly Dysfunctional Incestuous Overtones Fairy.
On the other hand, I'm not sure my liver could survive even a single episode, at the current rate.
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anais
December 15, 2010 at 9:50 PM
Ha! Faboo idea! To go along with all the drinking games played by the posses.
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14 May
December 15, 2010 at 9:44 PM
Hm, just a thought, but the plot might be nonsensical cause of the new writer change?
I guess they were reinventing the characters, in a sense.
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15 mysin
December 15, 2010 at 9:49 PM
the two boys,,, finally,,, getting-even for each other,,, in funny ways, I mean (no fight peace only), now this is what I'm talking about, showing your feeling, boys,,, ;D
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16 tamtam
December 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM
I held onto a glimmer of hope and... it really doesn't sound like it's going to get better. Maybe it gets worse BEFORE it gets better. Either way, I really do appreciate these recaps for keeping those of us who stopped watching informed. Putting it like that sounds like I'm taking advantage of your recaps, but I really was genuinely watching along, then... I just couldn't take it anymore. It's not in the worst drama status or the most boring... perhaps the most waste of talent and potential of the year. It's almost mirroring how "Wonderful Day" is falling apart within the drama as it progresses. Is that on purpose? Heh. The only way this is entertaining to me, is reading your snarky/sarcastic remarks on the drama, we're cringing and laughing along with you. :)
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drama4lyfe
December 16, 2010 at 8:25 AM
i agree with you completely. I didn't notice about "Wonderful Day" until you mentioned it.
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17 NNN
December 15, 2010 at 9:51 PM
I liked it but if I was 12 years old...
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18 Yen
December 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM
This was probably mentioned already, but his mom = Kim Sam Soon's divorced sister! :D I was wondering why she seemed familiar.
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sweetie
December 17, 2010 at 12:06 AM
ohh yes..that"s why i'm so familiar with her face :P
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19 LuvAznDramas
December 15, 2010 at 9:58 PM
I wish we can redo this series with new writer, rather have the wacky over the boredom. I agree with most of you its a waste of talent for JGS, MGY and KJW, though their acting skills are GREAT the story is lacking! Regardless, I will still finish this movie because I'm a HUGE JGS fan and will support him, hopefully he makes another great drama like You're beautiful! (soon)
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20 anais
December 15, 2010 at 9:59 PM
Just glad that I'm not the only who's noticed that the characters are very different from the way they used to be.
And I miss my very very cool Mugyul. This new Mugyul is fine, just not as compelling for me personally.
The assertive and spunky Mary - poof - and replaced by a doormat, wallflower Mary, taking back stage to Jung-in and Mugyul. (Oy, Moon Geun Young. She must be bored out of her mind. She can play this Mary while sleeping.)
The continuing development of the Jung-in/Mugyul dynamic however - thumbs up! Or more specifically, some life finally from Jung-in, yes!
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kaigou
December 15, 2010 at 11:14 PM
--Oy, Moon Geun Young. She must be bored out of her mind. She can play this Mary while sleeping.--
Agreed. She was a total powerhouse in Cinderella's Sister, which was a doozy of a downer and tortured beyond belief by the Silent Noble Sacrifice Fairy, yet somehow MGY rose above that, unlike most of the rest of the cast. I'm absolutely boggled by how on earth she ended up in this... bus-wreck.
It's definitely becoming a storyline where you like the characters only because the lead actors are good enough to make you give half-a-damn. If less-talented leads were at the helm, I probably would've given up after the first episode.
Still, it's a complete waste of MGY's talent, but it does say something for her that she's not totally phoning it all in.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 11:18 PM
yeah, right, anais?
how tragic that immensely talented actors as JGS, MGY and KJW have been placed in such a
'bored-out-of-our-minds-but-what-the-heck-can-we-do-about-it' kind of a position, right?
hehe...just shows how amazing actors they are that they could still act so compellingly well in spite of the lack of quality in the material in their possession...
i too, CANNOT STAND a princessy, clingy, helpless, wallflowery doormat of a girl/woman, esp since i have never been one before in my life, so i just cannot take it in the female characters in the dramas who are like that… ;)
how CRIMINAL it is to subject MGY to such a persona...
siiiighhhh... ;)
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21 mybus
December 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM
I've opted to go with the flow, since I was anticipating discernible changes from ep11 onwards. If the production team was aiming to maintain consistency, then I suppose the writer replacement would've been a rather radical option to take. The new writer came in after 10 episodes...pulling off a 100% successful turnaround with the entire development so far is impossible.
Or perhaps it's just that I'm easily satisfied that we're out of the stagnant phase and JI is finally no longer a woodblock, haha! I mean, we finally have him competing pettily with MG, and that's hella entertaining XD
In the car-braking scene, when JI turned away to hide his laughter, the only thing in my mind was "Boy am I glad KJW has prominent cheekbones LOLOLOL".
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22 ririzzang
December 15, 2010 at 10:01 PM
And I thought I saw the Baker Kim Takgu poster in one scene..
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anais
December 15, 2010 at 10:28 PM
You did. It's in the building of Wonderful Day's production company.
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23 zet
December 15, 2010 at 10:02 PM
I stopped watching when this drama turned into a stupid/crazy/lame romance drama.
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24 sunshine
December 15, 2010 at 10:03 PM
OMG I'm kind of afraid that to make more drama for the drama, they're going to kick in the our-parents-are-in-love-so-we-can't-be-together plotline for the 2 Geuns and the secretly sibling plotline (which would make the father grosser than he already is) for JI and Mary.
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25 bobo
December 15, 2010 at 10:12 PM
i seriously enjoyed reading your recap so much more than actually watching the episode, but jung in's looks were pretty awesomely hilarious in this ep at least. boy's actually (sort of) has a personality now, although i keep on thinking that jung in and mary will end up being siblings. yay for incest!
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26 ar
December 15, 2010 at 10:14 PM
Thank you, javabeans! I don't think I could have watched this episode, but your recap of it makes it look like it would be a good episode to drink to. It looks like it's heading to Witch Amusement territory. Not even Mary-Mu-gyul cuteness can save this series now. And now I'm uberly creeped out by the dad. It's so sad that there were so many things they could have done with this drama. it had a pretty refreshing start. they could have really worked on Mu-gyul and his mommy issues. Jung-in and his daddy issues. And do more with the history between Jung-in's dad and Mary's mom. I wonder if the actors are as disillusioned as we are.
"I hate when the ladies in dramas are such princesses, automatically assuming that the men will give up their beds for them and pouting if they don’t. " I know!! If I were a guest in someone's house and my host wants to sleep on the bed, I would offer to sleep on the sofa. And when there were no beds available, once I slept on the floor while the guys got the sofas. Mary should consider herself lucky to be with the hottie that is Mu-gyul/JGS. I would sleep on the floor for an entire week if JGS will be there to give me a kiss every day.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 11:03 PM
i second you "the sleeping on the floor for an entire week if JGS will be there to give me a kiss every day" part...hilarious! :)
i too CANNOT STAND a princessy, clingy, helpless, wallflowery doormat of a girl/woman, esp since i have never been one before in my life, so i just cannot take it in the female characters in the dramas who are like that... :(
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 3:07 AM
haha! if JGS make me sleep on the floor, I swear, he will wake up on the floor with me not knowing how the heck it happened! :D
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 3:13 AM
haha!! izzie, izzie!!! :)
your verbal diarrhoea at work again!! :)
but i wouldn't want you any other way!! :)
rock on, izzie!!! ;)
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 4:33 AM
LOL! KDL! :D
how can you possibly have proper thoughts when you stay in a room alone with JGS? how? ;)
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 6:23 AM
LOL! hehe, izzie, please stop giving me ideas...naughty ideas...hehe... ;)
but as usual, you are right... :)
sane, coherent thoughts fly out the windows and doors if ever JGS or the Moon or Won Bin or Hyun Bin or were to be in the SAME room with me... ;)
sorry, javabeans, for mentioning THE ... :)
just can't resist...he IS sooo captivating in Fugitive Plan B... :)
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 6:27 AM
ooops, accidentally clicked 'Submit Comment' before i could type in the name 'Lee Jung Jin' in post earlier...
so here it is again :
LOL! hehe, izzie, please stop giving me ideas…naughty ideas…hehe… :)
but as usual, you are right… :)
sane, coherent thoughts fly out the windows and doors if ever JGS or the Moon or Won Bin or Hyun Bin or Lee Jungjin were to be in the SAME room with me… ;)
sorry, javabeans, for mentioning THE Lee Jungjin… ;)
just can’t resist…he IS sooo captivating in Fugitive Plan B… ;)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 7:01 AM
"sorry, javabeans, for mentioning THE Lee Jungjin…"
oOooo... Yoo'r so in trouble! :D
(hehe, the 'yoo' thing is what sametang, sumee, pastmidnite and I had been bantering about in the Gong Yoo thread. :D )
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 9:23 AM
oooohhh...personally, i am not enamoured of Gong Yoo and thus you couldn't find me in that thread... :)
27 bobo
December 15, 2010 at 10:17 PM
and jang geun suk looks just like a pretty girl peering from behind the curtain...
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28
December 15, 2010 at 10:20 PM
Too bad and wasted of good talents. I'll watch their next dramas and hope those will be better.
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29 whatis
December 15, 2010 at 10:24 PM
ahhhh!!! I started out writing a critique on the episode, and drama. But... it got so frustrating even just thinking about it!!!
Thanks for the recap! This is how I will finish this drama. I don't think I've been this frustrated with a drama ever - Hong Kong/Taiwanese dramas included! This is crazy!!
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30 izzie
December 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM
"movement versus consistency"
*sigh* what a trade-off! We just can't have the cake and eat it, can we?
I haven't watched this episode, though, so I can't give a proper comment. But judging from this recap, I'm intrigued rather than turned off.
Hah! I wish the two dads fall for the bad mom and form a love triangle of their own - although that thought sends shivers down my spine, at least something would render them too pre-occupied to do anything creepier and inanely-damaging to the three leads.
Someone has got to exhume Mary's mom to show to that creepy dad for him to realize and internalize that his old love was gone. An evil alien in my head tells me that Jung-In is just an excuse for him to keep old love's clone close. (Yiih! more shivers down the spine!) :(
Mary should Stay Out of the Creepy Dad's Life for life!
and Lee Ahn should just bang Manager Bang so that she becomes happy and get a proper life!
As for Seo-jun... oh lovely, lovely tiara girl... I think you've long suprassed the age when wearing a tiara makes you look cute. And that was ten years ago. The tiara neither makes you look cool nor fierce. It makes you look insipid and childish. (Oh right. Childish is your character. Episode 1 told me different.)
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koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 10:57 PM
you know why there is the following saying :
we can't have our cake and eat it too?
because if eating a cake with such insanely messed-up ingredients would just lead to indigestion, or worse, food poisoning... hehe...
especially if zanier ingredients are mixed in, in the future, in the form of a love story between Mary's Dad and Mu-Gyul's Mum...*shivers down my spine*
love, just loooove, your take on Seo Jun's utterly, maddeningly ridiculous and inappropriate physical appearance... ;)
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 12:45 AM
"especially if zanier ingredients are mixed in, in the future, in the form of a love story between Mary’s Dad and Mu-Gyul’s Mum…*shivers down my spine*"
and if they manage to produce an offspring, which would be a messed up mixed version of MuGyul and Mary... and the two oldies... the show would have officially mutated into a slasher movie.
Give the child a knife and make it say, "I'm your best friend!" and it's all set. :P
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 12:51 AM
haha...slasher movie??!! haha!! ROFL my head off!! :)
vintage izzie!! :)
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 7:16 AM
i'm putting the fault on JungIn's daddy who started all the creepy here. :P *rewinds JI Daddy scenes in mind* ew! XP
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 9:30 AM
"*rewinds JI Daddy scenes in mind* ew! XP"
yeah...major, major *eeewwww*!!!! hehe...
note to self : look at the Moon's lovely countenance before sleeping tonight to erase memories of JI Daddy's *eeewwww*ness...
arrgghhhh.....
samgetang
December 21, 2010 at 7:08 AM
hi izzie and kdl...sorry to be late in the game here :-)
i just finished marathon watching epi 5 to 12 in 2 days...can u beat that? in between sleep, eat, cook, telephone calls, laundry, dishwashing and all the stuff normal people do. thank God for vacations...
this kdrama kinda grows on you, hehe...
one thing's consistent in this show is its limbo-effect on me. i watched it through the repetitive soundtrack of "My precious..." and by the time i was on the 7th epi i was thinking this is ain't that bad after all...i sorta felt like gollum holding the ring and whispering through gritted teeth "precious..." ;-)
seriously, i liked that mary and mugyul's relationship started from friendship. there were no pretensions, no mind games. they just grew fond with each other and that's that. it was a welcome relief after all the tension (snap.crackle.pop) between joo woon and ra im in secret garden. their relationship flowed so naturally towards each other and when it came to facing up to their feelings they did just that without even any sane thought on how they will face their responsibilities, commitment or how they will support themselves afterwards if they are left with no work or means of living...so boho, so gypsy...it's perfect. by the time JGS found the red sweater that MGY has knit for him and brought it to the skating rink then they hugged while he said "thank you for coming here", i'm done for! i'm hooked! :-) hahahaha!
just shows that if you are intent on liking something, you can...despite all odds and despite your own better judgment ;-)
i'm thinking that after watching this drama i will have to debrief myself and repeat to myself what a really good drama should be. maybe i will watch a really good one after this and just tell myself that sometimes you need to see the not-so-bad so you can truly appreciate the good while searching for the best.
and that's why i say this show has momentarily lulled me to a kind of limbo where all sanity is skewed and twisted. it has its charms and that's why i can relate to those who truly love this show.
what i learned from this show is the "precious" realization that making a story/script is not that easy. after seeing some very good films/series we begin to take for granted that these things may not come easy for those who for example came late in the game or just newbies or maybe really just out of their league. i have more and more appreciation now for really good writers, they are truly a rare gem! :-) their works are so good, flawless and seamless and that we become so immersed with the story so much that we forget that it is all made-up and we become one with the characters, they feel like kindred souls on a similar journey.
i said this show kinda grows on you because after investing my "precious" minutes, hours, moments with it i was rooting already for the writer/s to make an excellent job and be able to redeem themselves in whatever way they can. the terrain may feel bumpy many times but i hope the destination will be worth it.
thanks, kdl, for reminding me to watch MSOAN...i learned so much after this....and cant wait for next episodes and its final resolution! :-)
izzie
December 21, 2010 at 6:26 PM
lol. Someone did a LOT of catching up. :D
i sorta felt like gollum holding the ring and whispering through gritted teeth “precious…”
LOL. I have this image of you in my head caressing JGS's lovely locks and being gollum-y. :D (please excuse my weird imaginations - they pop out of nowhere.)
just shows that if you are intent on liking something, you can…despite all odds and despite your own better judgment
haha! I tried to do that for this drama. But there are things that prevented me from succeeding at it. (my reasons below.) ;)
seriously, i liked that mary and mugyul’s relationship started from friendship. there were no pretensions, no mind games. they just grew fond with each other and that’s that.
this is the thing that I like about the show. it's a different take on a love story, as far as kdramas are concerned. and I so believe in friendship being the foundation to a romantic relationship, coz it encourages honesty and good reason. (In SG, take the funny factor out of the tension between Ra-Im and Joo-Won and I would abandon the show. I've seen too many tension-laden romantic stories too.) I also like the third wheel factor. if Mary would be torn between the two male leads, she has good reasons. I would've also loved it if Seo Jun had a better head and fighting chance at winning either Jung-In or Mu-Gyul. The three leads were great. If only Seo Jun was equally-interesting, I would be glued to this show despite the participation of crazy parents and posses. If she wasn't there to tug the hearts of Mu-Gyul and Joo-Won and serve as a prospective alternative to Mary, then what is she for? I wish the writer would repackage her and keep her away from being another female villain bot. She's become a whiny villain bot. (As opposed to Tickle-Me-Elmo, she's Push-My-Emotional-Buttons-Seo-Jun. Push her buttons and you get the same reaction every time.)
Sadly, I've just decided to give up on the drama. :P
I admire the actors, I like the lead characters, but I just can't appreciate the rest. I wish I could see it from a different point of view, but I guess I've seen too many dramas (Filipino, Korean, American, Latin, and Chinese) that I'm left looking for something new. Maybe I need to degauss and take a break from kdramas for a while to be able to look at these shows differently.
But then again, I wasn't even looking for a perfect storyline. I could sit and watch with only fun and cuteness to see. For MSOAN I was getting by with the cuteness and the lightness, until the kidnapping stuff came along.
I kept thinking what was it that I was looking for/expecting from this drama? Here it is: at least one cool/truly mature character. Mary and MuGyul? nope. Jung-In? probably getting there, but not quite. Seo Jun? definitely not. Any of the parents? effing no. Any of the posses? definitely not. The drama-in-the-drama writer? probably. but I don't know much about her, so I really can't say. besides, she doesn't have a significant effect on the storyline.
This probably explains why I'm so ticked about Seo-Jun. She had the potential to make things a lot more interesting in MSOAN. Among the characters, this was the one that came with the promise of the mix of cool and maturity who could bring on the "yay"-worthy twists to the story. (oh there's another one - Jung-in's Dad - but he's become way too creepy and obsessive.) The way they were selling this character when Jung-In was browsing through resumes of actresses to cast in his drama, she was screaming great promises. Given her background as someone who has rubbed elbows with everyone from high society peeps to regular dudes and have lived the life as a pampered princess and an actress who fought to make it on her own, she should've been the well-rounded individual who can bring out-of-the-limits-of-the-box answers to problems that bug Mary, Mu-Gyul, and even Jung-In and leave them indebted to her, giving her real strings to pull on the main characters, and thereby making good sense of her existence in the drama. I'd love to see that kind of female character in a drama for once - the young and empowered one. But that's just my wish. ;)
Jung-In reminds me of a ticking time-bomb, and i am at once afraid and excited to see HOW it will explode (because it WILL explode, knowing how it is an essential element in dramas) and the effects it will have on Jung-In himself and others around him…
my goodness, KDL! seems like you were spot on. looks like the time bomb has already commenced it's explosion sequence, i.e. Jung-In's tipsy scene. I was hoping he explode and set everything and everyone right, but looks like he was exploding to his own destruction. for the sake of the drama, I hope he grows that much-needed spine. he's such a doormat to his father and to Mary as well. (considering that Mary is a doormat to everyone, does that put him at the bottom of the food chain?)
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so in MSOAN, we've found a ground where our opinions differ ;) stemming out from our own expectations for dramas. I so enjoy having these discussions with you, my kdrama sistahs. Your insightful takes on things make me question my likes and dislikes as well. Who knows? Maybe for the sake of our discussions, I might find myself watching MSOAN again. ;)
samgetang
December 21, 2010 at 10:33 PM
izzie hi!!!!! glad to see you here.
this is crazy....hopping from one post/thread to another hoping to get a glimpse of any of your, kdl's, sumee's or pastidnite's comments, hehe :-)
making me dizzy, that's what it did hahaha!
we should have a homepage soon where we can rest after all this running around in circles, waahhhaahahaha! that's why it's called a homepage, right/?:-)
i know!!!! thanks for your lengthy but very meaty and substantial post above...
i echo your sentiments whole-heartedly!
i guess we are all looking for that "one thing" in life (and no im not referring to the perfect soulmate...argggh!) but i think this is a common human experience we are seekers of beauty, excellence and perfection. we were created by God for that. sometimes we shortchange ourselves and most of the time we give up and settle for less.
i was about to say the same...
when i first decided to continue watching MSOAN it was because I wanted to share the experience with KDL who brought it up with me. but at the back of my mind i was looking for the gold beneath the rubble. who is that one person/character in the show who will save this show for me?
in spending time with it and staying open to the possibilities i discovered mary and mugyul...their union is not perfect but for me it was the best thing that the show can offer in the aspect i mentioned in my prev post.
ive set my expectations very low for this show after viewing the 1st 3, 4 episodes. so i was able to enjoy the littlest bit of fun and drama that they can offer in their weird and crazy way. i am sad though cos they have a powerhouse cast in the lead roles and could've been stretched so much more in the acting department but alas the writing has much work to do. changing the writer in the middle of the airing also seem like a catch 22 thing...damned if they do, but also damned if they dont...arghhh!
and so did i find that one person?
although mary and mugyul are such cute and adorable characters, its not one of them. i was thinking maybe JI cos he has this uncanny knack in biz. he has the potential to be bigger than he is, more magnanimous, create the saving grace for this show. he looked one-dimensional before but he's gaining more flesh by the last few episodes. he started cold but he started warming up to mary, sharing a moment to read a book w her in the book shop, strolling w her in the market, plus their shared childhood, his gift in eyeing the hidden talent of mary for script writing...and giving it venue for expression...these are very promising in my humble opinion.
but his attitude towards his father is sad and pathetic.
like what kdl said...he seemed like a ticking time bomb indeed. i hope he will not slide down to non-sense and indeed be the saving grace here.
as for seujun i agree with you izzie...the moment she started to be whiny and all self-absorbed the tiara lost the little sparkle that it had for me. hope she can even save herself...
so now im left with nothing...waaaahhh! ...except maybe the desire to finish what i started and enjoy the jealousy slant of the two male leads over mary ;-)
still i am all hope...im still watching this show til its crazy (and hope not bitter) end, hehe...barring time constraints and life's pressing demands ;-)
thanks for sharing all your wonderful thoughts with us, izzie. they are "precious" to me...im exhibiting LSS (last song syndrome) now, hahaha! blame it on marathon viewing...yikes!
31 Ani
December 15, 2010 at 10:36 PM
X/ I give up? I don't now. We'll see? *sigh* Thanks for the effort on recapping ladies.
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32 bunny
December 15, 2010 at 10:40 PM
the pro/con intro was the best ever!
thanks so much for the recap JB!
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33 koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 10:43 PM
haha…javabeans, where do I begin to express how grateful I am to you for not giving up on recapping this drama? ;)
I am so sorry to know how this drama has driven you insane (not literally, I am sure ;)
but am so grateful to you that in spite of that,
you have not given up on providing us,
the visitors to Dramabeans and followers of MSOAN, with the chance to savour your incredibly witty, exceedingly entertaining and intelligent insight on MSOAN… ;)
Just some of the gems (which I totally concur with you) from this recap :
- I hate when the ladies in dramas are such princesses, automatically assuming that the men will give up their beds for them and pouting if they don’t. You know what they say about assuming things
(i totally agree...how sad it is that the writer/PD has placed such a talented actress as MGY in such a ‘princessy’ position)
...
- she rushes to his side and sucks the blood from this finger, which I guess is cute, though unsanitary. Mu-gyul suggests a kiss to commemorate the occasion, and I think Mary has officially gone insane because she declines.
(the sucking of blood is definitely insane, as is declining the kiss)
...
- Oh, are we playing the “I can hurt my own son but nobody else can” game now?
(exactly! How ironic of the Worst Mother in the World to act in that way considering SHE is the reason her son grew up with an inferiority complex as a result of her wayward adolescent AND adult behaviour.)
…
- OH YOU TWO. Can we just have the Mu-gyul and Jung-in Comedy Hour, please? I’d forgive the lack of plot or logical character development if we could just see these two being petty and jealous and silly all the time.
(hehe…how much zany fun would we have if the Comedy Hour does materialize??!!)
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- That association just makes it creepier that President Jung requests Mary come to the concert with the ring, as he wants to see her wearing it. Gah, I swear this gothic plot is straight out of a VC Andrews novel.
(not ever having read a VC Andrews novel before, i can’t say i understand your reference but i totally agree with the TOTALLY CREEEEEPY feeling from this scenario)
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- Rather unsporting of the oh-so-authentic rock musicians who don’t even write their own songs, yeah? Dude(s), you don’t make the music anyway — all you do is PLAY the stuff Mu-gyul writes. Also: This is hardly the stuff we’d expect of the guys who acknowledged that they had no talent and were considering quitting music in the first place. I think the Character Development Fairy must be drunk along with half the characters.
(IMO, the Character Devt Fairy DEFINITELY has lost his/her mind, not JUST gotten drunk)
...
- Seo-jun joins Mu-gyul at the table, apparently having turned on her Mu-gyul Homing Signal.
(hehe...reminds me of another character with the Homing Signal – Tweedle Evil, the one-half of Tweedle Dum and Tweedle Evil, from Personal Taste, whose name i can't remember!!)
once again, javabeans, thanks so much for not giving up on this insane ride...;)
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anais
December 15, 2010 at 11:01 PM
VC Andrews novels - especially Flowers in the Attic - comprise a family saga with incest at its roots.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 11:11 PM
oh, i see...i shall try to find the time to read it 'cause my interest has been piqued... ;)
i have always been a reader of the crime/thriller/spy genre...one of my favourites is Agatha Christie...
thanks so much for the info, anais! ;)
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anais
December 16, 2010 at 12:40 AM
No, not quite Agatha Christie.
VC Andrews is... twisted. Yet compellingly so. In that hidden vice sort of way.
Definitely not a crime, thriller, or spy novel. It was packaged in the US in the 80s as a young adult series, slightly trashy but...
Some of the gothic dimensions of the series reminded me of Anne Rice's Mayfair saga series (with Lasher) and the second and third volumes of the Vampire Chronicle (Vampire Lestat and Queen of the Damned). But with an authorial voice quite a bit less splashy than Anne Rice's.
I vaguely remember the siblings locked in the attic, the 60 year old grandmother who looked 20something thanks to amazing surgery, incest-begotten children, Dresden doll-like features or something like that... All very hazy now but the feel of it all.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 12:58 AM
oooh...compellingly twisted?
hmmm...definitely must find the time to read them... ;)
Anne Rice's Mayfair saga series (with Lasher) sounds interesting as well... ;)
thanks so much, anais!
so glad to make your acquaintance here in Dramabeans for i have benefited from the incredible mind-gems you have shared so far here... ;)
thanks so very much, and hope you continue to grace this blog with your intelligent and thought-provoking ideas and opinions.. ;)
Javabeans
December 16, 2010 at 12:55 AM
Since I brought it up...
VC Andrews wrote gothic trash novels, and as anais mentions, the Flowers in the Attic is her first and most famous novel and subsequent series. The books were so popular that after she died, ghostwriters kept up her brand by churning out more epic "sagas" of twisted family dynamics that all featured incest, rape, and other sensational topics. As you can imagine, they were appealing for their "taboo" subject matter, particularly for young impressionable minds who might have had to, *ahem*, sneak them around strict parents or stealth-read them at the library. I would NOT recommend them as good reading material for anybody, but if you're curious go ahead, just know that they're meant to be trashy.
One of the early "sagas" was the Heaven series, which is the one I'm referring to here, where there are three generations of women who all look exactly like each other. Girl, mother, grandmother. There are men in their lives who are positively obsessed with them, and carry on the obsession into the next generations. It's creepy, to say the least.
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D
December 16, 2010 at 1:20 AM
ummm, i was a bookworm, i remember reading them in our public library when i was in mid teens, couldn''t recall borrowing any but I know the first one I read has a very torn cover (sign of a well read book?)
yes, it was creepy and disturbing but after a few titles, the novelty worn off.. i just sort of move on to other genre
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:28 AM
oooh...interesting...trashy? creepy?
no wonder then, my teachers steered my friends and I away from such books, which is why i never got round to reading them...
too many other mind-blowingly compelling books/genres to read up on but so little time in which to do it...
thanks so much, javabeans!!! ;)
can't thank u enough for the sharing!! ;)
bless you! :)
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:52 AM
btw, i wanted to appear cool about it, but i REALLY CANNOT resist it...
WOW!!! A reply from our esteemed Javabeans!!! :)
WOW!!! WOW!!! WOWWWWW!!!
How AWESOME!!!
How FANTABULOUS!! ;)
How HONOURED!! :)
THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, JAVABEANS!!! :)
*bows* * bows* :)
BLESS YOU, Javabeans! :)
(kindly forgive my lack of self-control here...hehe) ;)
anais
December 16, 2010 at 6:33 PM
I would NOT recommend them as good reading material for anybody, but if you’re curious go ahead, just know that they’re meant to be trashy.
Don't know why but this part just has me breaking out in laughter unfailingly.
34 lyra
December 15, 2010 at 10:44 PM
idk, but for me episode 11-12 at least made me laugh.
at least for Jung-in's character it somehow made a step forward, unlike before. i can see a jealous but gutsy jung-in rather than that of the stoic groom-to-be who only knows how to say yes.
i am a little bit worried of seo-jun's character here. seems like it will take another ten episodes to redeem who she really is in the story. because seriously, i cant find any relevance of her one month relationship with mugyul then run after him like they have been together for a decade? oh, thanks for reminding JB , the plot..ugh.
the pro and con convo cracked me up.thanks for the recap!!
am still in this ship, err..bus .haha
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35 Christy
December 15, 2010 at 10:47 PM
A quote from Princess Bride seems so apt for this episode:
“LOOK You see, The Cliffs of Insanity, Hurry up move the thing, and, and that other thing, MOVE IT”
I've lost my mind in this crazy, inconceivable, surreal plot but at least the bus is MOVING!! Needless to say I enjoyed this episode and I'm looking forward to episode 13. I think I'll just watch this drama for the crazy factor.
Anyway, where is the Butakhae, My Bus OST song? I miss it and I hope they play it again in some of the drama scenes. I get a kick out of its crazy lyrics.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM
yes, i agree with you, Christy, about the My Bus OST song...
it is amazingly catchy and terrific fun! :)
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36 Serious
December 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM
honestly, i couldn't agree with you more JB. The plot is just so repetitive and crazy now -.- but the characters are a lot more fun(?) to see. Although they're a bit different than how they used to be (ahem, Jung-in), i did like the characters exchanges :)
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37 hereorthere
December 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM
lol @ the VC Andrews reference - funny stuff.
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38 LaLa
December 15, 2010 at 11:00 PM
I stopped watching this drama long time ago... but i still love your recaps...i think they are much more entertaining...
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39 punch
December 15, 2010 at 11:02 PM
tee hee it's like there's a devil and an angel on your head :)
javabeans is more interesting than the plot
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40 alice
December 15, 2010 at 11:05 PM
Even reading the recap is not fun. Sorry Dramabean, I only read the part where you talked to yourself (which was more exciting then the episode), a little of the beginning and then skipped to your ending. This drama makes PK look so much better. Not trying to make comparisons but I felt compelled to since there were so many PK and KHJ haters.
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alice
December 15, 2010 at 11:21 PM
You guys can not say that KHJ did not improve towards the ending... esp in the Youtube versions. He was so much better and less awkward. KHJ is not a strong actor like JKS which is why I'm more disappointed with MSOAN. They have 3 strong actors and still the drama is a big mess.
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ce
December 15, 2010 at 11:43 PM
Since his character was aloof, I would say KHJ suited the role. And he really did improve. The reason why I like Seung-jo better than the other versions is because Seung-jo had warmth whereas the others didn't. There was a side to the Naoki character that I liked that I haven't seen before. That added to my looking-forward-to-the-next-episodes feeling.
I actually gave up on MSOAN after episode 4. Gave up on reading the recaps too but picked it up again when I heard there was a writer change. It still sounds messy, despite the strong actors, but we'll just see how it all ends. I'm thinking of watching again starting with episode 11 (but the recaps sounds so much better!). I could've also stuck with JGS (adored him on YB) & MGY (respected since AIMH) but I really couldn't stand the secondary characters and lack of character development. I love cliches, cheesiness, puppy-cuteness, brainlessness, but only in moderation.
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41 nadya
December 15, 2010 at 11:13 PM
I'm laughing so much that i don't even care about the plot right now!!! LOL :D I think this is what the drama was lacking the last few episodes, it got to mellow and this was like a super boost of fun stuff...now if we get the fun and cute together till the end, that would be amazing!
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42 koreandramalover/kay
December 15, 2010 at 11:49 PM
MSOAN is turning out to be a drama of the SERIOUSLY DISTURBING...
the characters’ characterisation reflect that :
Mary’s Dad, Mu-Gyul’s Mom and Jung-In’s Dad are SERIOUSLY DISTURBING in their self-centredness and utter lack of regard for how they can/must do to make their child truly happy;
Jung-In’s Dad is SERIOUSLY DISTURBING in his obsession with his lost love – Mary’s late mum – to the extent that he is willing to resort to EMOTIONAL, PSYCHOLOGICAL AND FINANCIAL BLACKMAIL of his own flesh and blood (Jung-In), Mary’s Dad and Mary herself (or anyone else, for that matter), in order to deal with that obsession;
Jung-In is SERIOUSLY DISTURBING in his total lack of motivation to break away from his father’s strangle-hold over his life and REALLY LIVE HIS OWN LIFE, unencumbered by his dad’s money/influence/blackmail, however hard it may be, because life is, after all, not meant to be easy for anyone to live, with or without money;
Seo Jun is SERIOUSLY DISTURBING in her obsession with HER lost love in Mu-Gyul, that she is characterised as possessing NO common sense whatsoever when it comes to her reaction and actions pertaining to anything and everything connected with Mu-Gyul;
Only Mary and Mu-Gyul are the saving graces in this drama so far, character-wise BUT only because in Mu-Gyul’s case, he has shown that he has the POTENTIAL to be a better person…
BUT if he does not prove to Mary and her father that he can really take care of Mary in every way that matters, then he will fall into the category of SERIOUSLY DISTURBING as well – because he just cannot be a responsible and committed man to the one he loves, and will forever take flight when the going gets tough.
i wonder how the story is unfolding next…
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 12:33 AM
"if he does not prove to Mary and her father that he can really take care of Mary in every way that matters"
kdrama-heaven forbid that MuGyul changes to prove himself worthy in Mary's Dad's eyes... cuz Mr. Wee is such a "qualified" judge of character. *coughs violently*
the real disturbing thing is that... I know MuGyul's Mom! (the character, not the actress) She's my college best friend's mom who effectively guided her daughter to the "right path" and yep, we the friends had to deal with her too from time to time. (yep, even regarding financial concerns.) somehow, she trascended the barrier from real life to kdrama universe. and became Korean. I worry everytime she gets screentime. I fear that she would jump out of my computer screen and ask money from me.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:08 AM
haha!!! haha!!! help!!! i can't stop laughing!!
- *coughs violently* - vintage, vintage izzie!! haha!! :)
- "i fear that she would jump out of my computer screen and ask money from me"
so sorry you have a real-life 'Mu-Gyul's Mum' in your life...
how DAMAGING parents can be, right?
when they are supposed to PREVENT damage from happening to their children...
*shivers down my spine*
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 1:50 AM
"so sorry you have a real-life ‘Mu-Gyul’s Mum’ in your life…"
she's so the same right down to the age, body build and hairstyle, it scares me. really. :(
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as for seo-jun. I liked her at the beginning. I thought she'd turn out to be this cool noona/unnie with the 'tude. bitchy, but cool. I was hoping that she would be the one to conk everyone's head when they're acting nonsensical. I would've cheered for her to get Jung-In for they come from the same background (not the plain rich kid, but the formerly-pressured/parent-controlled, rebellious rich kid) now she ain't even bitchy. she's just plain whiny. XP
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 2:07 AM
"she’s so the same right down to the age, body build and hairstyle, it scares me. really."
oh my God!!! no wonder then you say it is as if she has taken over Seo Jun's character...*more shivers down my spine*!!!
as for seo jun, i agree with you!!
i was thinking exactly the same thing, especially in the first few episodes when she was portrayed as a considerate and independent-minded lady in her interactions with Mary especially...
and yet...sadly, her character has sunk into a 'mindless, perpetually tragic' persona, courtesy of the writing...sooo tragic! :(
but an an eternal optimist, i am hoping against hope, that the subsequent episodes can help to redeem her character and surprise us all...
after all, hope is the last thing that dies... ;)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 7:31 AM
"i was thinking exactly the same thing, especially in the first few episodes when she was portrayed as a considerate and independent-minded lady in her interactions with Mary especially…
and yet…sadly, her character has sunk into a ‘mindless, perpetually tragic’ persona, courtesy of the writing…sooo tragic!"
looks like she's cool with everything, until her MuGyul issues grew bigger - especially towards the middle where everyone she met is in one way or another connected to MG. her sulking is understandable since it is now known that MG ditched her for suspected cheating without giving her the benefit of an explanation. however, the way she tangles and drags everybody else in her melodrama just ain't right. and also, she's got to outgrow that headband/tiara thing. how could she expect everybody to take her seriously with that distracting thing on her head? :P
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 9:11 AM
"looks like she’s cool with everything, until her MuGyul issues grew bigger – especially towards the middle where everyone she met is in one way or another connected to MG."
exactly my thoughts, izzie! :)
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"her sulking is understandable since it is now known that MG ditched her for suspected cheating without giving her the benefit of an explanation. however, the way she tangles and drags everybody else in her melodrama just ain’t right."
yes! yes! a thousand times yes! that is what is mean by "mindless, perpetually tragic persona"...she goes about behaving as if she can't or won't think (use her mind) rationally and logically, but just based on her emotions alone, portraying herself as a victim, without taking appropriate, mature and decisive actions to tackle the problems staring at her in the face...
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"and also, she’s got to outgrow that headband/tiara thing. how could she expect everybody to take her seriously with that distracting thing on her head?"
could it be the 'princessy' persona coming to the fore??
eternally thinking that she needs a crutch, in the form of the tiara-like-headband, to make herself feel better or good about herself, if nobody else can make her feel that way?? if so, then she is a truly pathetic creature...
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 10:09 AM
"eternally thinking that she needs a crutch, in the form of the tiara-like-headband, to make herself feel better or good about herself, if nobody else can make her feel that way?"
she looks worse being a whiny baby with a tiara on. if she's going to keep that fashion statement, she better learn to match it with a fierce diva attitude - the type that would make everyone cower if she doesn't get her way, and not the kind that would throw a tantrum fit like an overage brat.
seriously, do they need someone like that in the drama?
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM
"she looks worse being a whiny baby with a tiara on. if she’s going to keep that fashion statement, she better learn to match it with a fierce diva attitude – the type that would make everyone cower if she doesn’t get her way, and not the kind that would throw a tantrum fit like an overage brat.
seriously, do they need someone like that in the drama?"
- my sentiments exactly! WHAT exactly is her purpose in being in the drama?
Just for DRAMATIC purposes because of the drama-within-a-drama context of MSOAN and her purpose is to provide the dramatic (read : childish) but ultimately pointless perspective?
If so, then WE'VE BEEN HAD, izzie... :(
I do hope i am wrong, and Seo Jun will be shown as a character that adds value to the drama, since it cannot possibly be the driving force of the drama...
or at the very least, make Seo Jun be useful enough to make a difference in some small way to the drama,
at the end of it all...
To me, if she is taken out of the drama totally right now, she will NOT be missed, neither will her absence cause any upheaval...
just my humble opinion...
LizzyD
December 16, 2010 at 1:08 AM
But KDL, he braved the cold to get her cold water! That's the Kdrama equivalent of slaying dragons to save the princess!! Seriously though, why does he have to prove himself worthy of her to be with her? And girl can take care of herself as she has been doing for the past 24 yrs.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:21 AM
it is more of a question of proving to the OTHERS (namely, the parents) in the girl's life that he can take care of the girl, more than proving to the girl herself, because after all, the girl has been brought up by the OTHERS, and so, how to escape the scrutiny and judgement of passing the care of their lovingly-brought-up child to a relative stranger?
if you have ever brought a man home to meet the parents, you will understand what i mean... ;)
i swear , even the most confident and self-assured of men, literally shook in their boots when faced with the PROSPECT of meeting MY parents, note to mention REALLY MEETING them, because of the glare of scrutiny...
especially because i come from a strict and conservative religious background...
BUT the irony of it is, AFTER meeting my parents, the men realised to their complete and pleasant surprise, how easy-going, friendly and non-judgemental my parents really are...haha... ;)
so, it is more of the fear of the unknown than anything else... ;)
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LizzyD
December 16, 2010 at 1:40 AM
Of course I know what you mean with 4 girls and one very strict Asian dad. One time my older sister brought a boyfriend home and after he left, my dad suddenly got up and went after him. Poor guy was so nervous he left the house and walked to his car without his shoes. hahaha This was a full-grown man who was a doctor too. My sisters and I still laugh about it. Mary's dad makes me so angry (think back to the construction site flashback of little mary crying) that I almost feel like he has lost all parent rights. And this is coming from someone who believes so firmly in respecting the elders that I can't call my graduate school professors by their first names.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:59 AM
haha!!! hehe!!! a shoeless doctor walking to his car?
how positively terrified he must have been, right?
poor dear... ;)
did he end up marrying your elder sister? :)
and yes, I am just like you too - i would be caught dead (by my parents) before i could call my university professors by their first names... hehe :)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 2:45 AM
haha! bring back the memories! :D
back in high school, my biggest crush (the school heartthrob) visited me at home. he was so scared of my father that he brought his entire posse for moral support. :D
Dad kept passing by the living room where we all were. When he had the opportunity to talk to me he told me, "I know who among them is the guy. He can't fool me."
so yes, fathers can scare the heck out of even the most playful playboy admirer. :D
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 3:07 AM
oooohhh...izzie!!
so you had a past with a PLAYFUL PLAYBOY, yeah?
soooo interesting!! hehe ;)
so what happened with him?? dooo tell... hehe :)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 4:21 AM
"so what happened with him?? dooo tell… hehe"
ahaha! He was every inch a gentleman when we were together but he was trouble magnet, :) I was never the jealous kind, but I had to let him go to find peace of mind. :P at the very least, my school bag became the punching bag of a jealous girl when I happened to leave it alone during a class break. Good thing, I didn't leave my packed lunch in there, or I would've found my knapsack in an icky mess. :P young girls...
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 6:34 AM
ooohhh...interesting!! ;)
at least you HAVE had the experience... ;)
i have never known a playboy before but something close to a rocker/artist type but of course it didn't work out because we both knew my parents would have disowned me... ;)
and also because i myself did not have faith in the relationship any way... ;)
aaahhh...history and experience...which is why i follow MSOAN up till now...brings back poignant memories... :)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 7:13 AM
"i have never known a playboy before but something close to a rocker/artist type"
- oOoo... the free spirit kind? they're usually very interesting guys, but it's hard to find one that you can keep in one place for a long time. ;)
"i myself did not have faith in the relationship any way…"
- but why? :( (curious mind wants to know.) ;)
"history and experience…which is why i follow MSOAN up till now…brings back poignant memories… "
- both good and bad, yep! :)
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 8:52 AM
hmm...yeah, a bit like a free spirit,
and forever dreaming of going places with his music...
he was a drummer and guitarist
(a funny combination, i know, but he loved them both) and he was in a band with his closest friends...
i didn't have much faith in the relationship because he was what we can call 'a chick magnet'?
similar to your case i guess...
i was forever thinking of how insecure i felt when he was playing in front of all the screaming girls in pubs and clubs...especially because i didn't frequent such places and never will...
on top of that, we had very little in common -
i was and still am a bookworm, he wasn't;
he was a talented musician (he wrote his own songs)
while i couldn't (and still can't) play a musical instrument for nuts...hehe..
he was a dreamer, while i am more of a realist/pragmatist;
he was forever struggling financially and because of that, he told me right from the start that he cannot commit himself to anyone yet...maybe in 10 years or even more...and i knew right then that i shouldn't be waiting for someone who may NEVER be able to commit himself to me... ;)
eventually we drifted apart after i finished my university studies, while he was drifting along with his band...
we first met through mutual friends at a wedding and i was enchanted by his guitar-playing, esp because it was my first time knowing a musician...also because i LOVE listening to music from the guitar, violin and drums... :)
we were together for almost 2 years and we had both good and sad memories, but do you know what was really remarkable?
We NEVER argued or fought!
Not even once!
Do you know why?
Because we knew right from the beginning that our time together will not last because of our differences and so we decided NEVER to argue but to talk things out calmly and patiently, so that we would only have good and sad memories of our time together...:)
why sad memories, you may ask?
sad because we knew we were just too different to ever be able to build a lasting relationship together and we knew we were going our separate ways one day and so we were essentially going through each day just appreciating the time we had together...
that was more than 20 years ago...
i have not seen him since but have heard from a mutual friend that he has settled down in Malaysia, with a different band... :)
aaahhh...memories...
my decision to watch MSOAN hasn't been easy because i wasn't sure how i would feel after all these years but so far it has been ok, helped a great deal by the hilarious parts in the drama that made me laugh my head off and the wonderful recaps by our dear javabeans and girlfriday right here in dramabeans... :)
hope my trip down memory lane has been engaging, not snooze-inducing... hehe :)
what about your time with the playboy?
any fond memories of your time with him?
*curious mind wonders* :)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM
Woah, kdl! your history with the rocker guy is really something! Though short-lived, it was rather beautiful with the maturity dashed into it. I so admire couples who know when or when not to argue, and know w/c issues are worth bothering about. Sad to hear that it didn't last long, but then again the separation paved the way for you to meet the one whom you're really meant to be with. :)
izzie
December 16, 2010 at 1:43 PM
will tell you about the playboy later. ;) i have to go pack now for a trip. me going on vay-kay. :)
oy
December 16, 2010 at 2:35 PM
@ kdl thanks for sharing :)
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 7:28 PM
@izzie : Thanks for your kind comments on my brief but beautiful time with the musician and you are right abt the separation being best for both of us because both of us are where we should be... ;)
@oy : You are most welcome! I am happy to share ;)
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 7:33 PM
@ izzie : Oh, so you are going on a vay-kay vacation? What is a 'vay-kay'? Its great to know you are going for the vacation! Enjoy yourself!! Take care!! See u again soon here in Dramabeans ;)
koreandramalover/kay
December 17, 2010 at 1:51 AM
@ izzie : silly old me! hehe... i know now 'vay-kay' is your way of saying 'vacation', right? hehe ;)
izzie
December 18, 2010 at 10:33 PM
so sorry for the very late reply, KDL. :)
yup! I'm on vacation. :) (so sorry about the three weeks away from work for the Holidays. (yipee!) :D and it's only now that I was able to have a connection to the web, since I went on a trip.
the connection here is quite decent so I hope I'd be able to visit often. :)
izzie
December 18, 2010 at 10:35 PM
so sorry for the very late reply, KDL. :)
yup! I'm on vacation. :) for three weeks I'd be away from work for the Holidays. (yipee!) :D and it's only now that I was able to have a connection to the web, since I went on a trip.
the connection here is quite decent so I hope I'd be able to visit often. :)
koreandramalover/kay
December 19, 2010 at 12:32 AM
hi there, izzie dear!! ;)
thanks so much the reply, but you should focus on your vacation now... ;)
have a great time! ;)
see u again! ;)
samgetang
December 21, 2010 at 9:30 AM
hi izzie and kdl....hmmm...just finished reading your trip down memory lane. so interesting!!! playboy and rocker types, wooaaahhh!
i barely remember a guy in my past who sports a long mane of hair such as JGS in this show, he was an archaeologist and also a free spirit....he was into band music and the girls love him too, argghh! stormy days....
thanks for inviting me here, kdl, so i can at least know more about why you like MSOAN.
izzie, as always, you had me in stitches with all your funny takes on this drama, tiara and all....LOL!
this drama is really fun for all the "unbelievable" elements in it...it is almost out-of-this-world! :-)
Bee
December 16, 2010 at 2:02 AM
>>Jung-In is SERIOUSLY DISTURBING in his total lack of motivation to break away from his father’s strangle-hold over his life and REALLY LIVE HIS OWN LIFE, unencumbered by his dad’s money/influence/blackmail, however hard it may be, because life is, after all, not meant to be easy for anyone to live, with or without money;<<
Sadly enough, from a purely psychological point of view, his character is the most realistic. Something really serious must have happened in his life that he never "grew up" - I assume that his dad always punished him with love withdrawl, and the only way that Jung-in could get his father's attention was to be a good boy. Now he's an adult, and trying to do his own thing (running his own company), but sadly enough he's not financially independant and plays along the lines of the "good boy" theme to ensure his father's cooperation... Call it a comfort zone, the actions of least risk. Thing is, a person won't leave their comfort zone, even if it's a bit unpleasent to them or they are not completely happy, as long as the plus is outweighting the minus effects. Only when a person feels really uncomfortable, they are willing to break out of their situation and face the unkown of new ways.
But if you look at the character Jung-In, he's at a that breaking point. He has complied with his father's behavour so far, but it's getting more and more painful. Now he's met Mary and Mu-gyul, and that tips the scale of what he's willing to endure from his father, it makes his barely habitable "comfort-zone" and uncomfortable place....
Now, the question is, will Jung-in give up on himself, or will he break free from his father? If the character of the previous 10 episodes was doing the action, then I'd say he'd break free. With the character changes in the past two eps, I#m not so sure any more...
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 2:51 AM
wow, Bee!! :)
thank you so much for your thorough, intelligent and insightful comment on my comment!! :)
i thoroughly enjoyed reading your comment and agree with every single marvellous point... ;)
and just like you, i am looking forward to seeing how Jung-In (as well as MG and Mary) will be portrayed in subsequent episodes, such that their respective emotional, psychological, inter-personal and intra-personal struggles will unravel...
but just like you, i am also worried if it can be done with just so few episodes left, unless they have an extension, which should be highly unlikely considering the dismal ratings...siiiggghhhhh....
Jung-In reminds me of a ticking time-bomb, and i am at once afraid and excited to see HOW it will explode (because it WILL explode, knowing how it is an essential element in dramas) and the effects it will have on Jung-In himself and others around him...
the sad truth is that Jung-In's character is a lot more common in real life than we can even imagine, based on statistics the world over on emotionally- and psychologically-challenged people...
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oy
December 16, 2010 at 4:34 AM
thanks for your input
interesting read
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x0mi07
December 16, 2010 at 5:00 AM
jung-in is a hell of a WHOLE LOT like me you have NO idea...>,< totally sympathize for the dude but i must admit... if he wants mary, he should go get her. a character with a personality like mine and jung-in's would still do the best they can for the one they love -- whether that be his dad or mary.
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samgetang
December 21, 2010 at 7:30 AM
wow! izzie and kdl! verbal sparring between the two of you once again, hahaha! i haven't read yet all your comments here but by the looks of it, i might be SERIOUSLY DISTURBED after reading this long and winding thread :-)
so God help me :-)
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koreandramalover/kay
December 22, 2010 at 7:18 PM
hehe, samgetang! take care and may God help you! ;)
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43 danaXOX
December 16, 2010 at 12:02 AM
you're a party pooper. correct but still a party pooper
there's good plot and good chemistry
they don't go hand in hand so perfect examples right now
good plot, decent (i guess) chemistry - SG
not so good plot, great chemistry - MSOAN
and i've dropped SG b/c honestly, despite the plot, i don't pay attention anymore
on the other hand, i watch every moment of MSOAN
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Javabeans
December 16, 2010 at 12:04 AM
although technically speaking, since it's my blog/party, aren't you really the pooper?
:D
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 12:22 AM
well, since it's your party, then you can poop if you want to...
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why did I say that?! XP gross!
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:30 AM
haha...izzie!!! HOW COULD you say what you said?
hilarious!!! haha!! :)
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 2:14 AM
it's a bad case of verbal diarrhea... XP
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 2:35 AM
hehe...verbal diarrhoea...vintage izzie!!! haha!! :)
danaXOX
December 16, 2010 at 12:44 AM
true but then, i guess we would always be pooping on someone's party by expressing a different opinion on their blog?
ps i do like your blog btw!
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x0mi07
December 16, 2010 at 5:03 AM
you were the one who started calling names. play nice.
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December 16, 2010 at 7:55 PM
That is your opinion, for me SG has better chemistry than MSOAN.
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44 JOYce
December 16, 2010 at 12:15 AM
BIG thanks for still recaping, despite......
Other than that, this series makes me frustrated. I stop watching this series and only read your recap!
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45 teapot
December 16, 2010 at 12:21 AM
Wheeeeee!!!!! The character-development may be drunk, but it looks like her second-cousin the gleeful trainwreck fairy has taken over the wheel.
Is it wrong that I'm enjoying this drama more now that its making a total ass out of itself?
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izzie
December 16, 2010 at 12:37 AM
well, if you can't stir sensibility... stir crazy. ;)
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:00 AM
haha!!! teapot, you just crack me up!! ;)
i don't blame you for enjoying the wacky ride, for i am riding along with you!!! :)
wohoooo!!!
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46 Nana
December 16, 2010 at 12:34 AM
This is The biggest flop of the year. Other dramas you name it, I can forgive, but this one wastes a way too good casts.
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47 LizzyD
December 16, 2010 at 1:04 AM
I'm actually enjoying this drama, but then again, I'd watch 100 episodes of Mary and Mu Gyul being cute together. Plus, I don't think the plot and character inconsistencies are any worse than a lot of the dramas out there, some of which I still enjoyed. I just wish the secondary characters weren't so completely annoying. I just want to dig a bottomless ditch and drop kick all of them in there and bury them alive. That would include all the parents, the crazy obsessed with a guy I dated for 1 month a year ago woman, and insane manager who seems to want to ruin her star client's career.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 1:56 AM
LizzyD!!! u really cracked me up!!! hahaha!!! ;)
"dig a bottomless ditch and drop kick all of them in there and bury them alive"
haha...tell me, how DO you dig a BOTTOMLESS ditch??
wouldn't you fall into it first before you could drop kick the insane bunch of characters?? hehe :)
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LizzyD
December 16, 2010 at 9:37 AM
Ok, I admit my plan isn't fully thought out, but I'll find a way. Do you want to help me? And no, my sister didn't marry the doctor. My family is crazy so he probably would have had a nervous breakdown if he hung around any longer.
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koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 10:10 AM
hehe...oooohhh yessss, i would most certainly be more than happy to help you bury those maddeningly mindless characters into whatever pit of your choice...hehe...just tell when and where, i'll be there!!hehe ;)
oh, so the doctor walked OFF totally from your family?
hmmm...well then, he is NOT the one for your sister... :)
if he cannot take your family 'craziness' as you said, then he is NOT the one for your sister after all... ;)
every family has some form of wackiness happening in it...its just a matter of whether it is known outside the family or not and the degree of craziness... ;)
if i were to tell my life story, including stories from both my parents' side of the family, with all its insanity and out-of-this-world experiences, you may think that your family is actually quite sane... hehe ;)
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oy
December 16, 2010 at 2:28 PM
sounds very interesting
I like real life stories ;)
LizzyD
December 16, 2010 at 5:10 PM
Yes, I love stories. The crazier the better.
koreandramalover/kay
December 16, 2010 at 10:41 PM
@ oy
@ LizzyD
Hi, there oy and LizzyD! ;)
I love real life stories too! ;)
If you are interested to know a bit abt my crazy family background, perhaps you could read my posts in the following link in Dramabeans that i posted as my reply to a commentor on why i do not like Secret Garden... ;)
http://www.dramabeans.com/2010/12/mary-stayed-out-all-night-replaces-writer/comment-page-2/#comments
I would like to also add something which I did not get to include in those posts of mine :
There are also illegitimate children from my father's and mother's side of the family (my father's sibling and my mother's cousin) and the stigma NEVER goes away, for both the adults and children involved, even though more than 30 years have passed...
48 ViPrimadonna
December 16, 2010 at 1:36 AM
LOL! this is the first thing that came into my mind when i first read this: "omo! finally JB has lost her mind!" kekekekeke..
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49 Dandelion
December 16, 2010 at 2:12 AM
Thanks jb,
Will MR become a vampire ? sucking blood,
totally unhygienic.
Could contract AIDS with the bohemian lifestyle guy .
Love every moments of Jung In ! .
Looking forward to watch his coming days to the wedding ceremony if it happens .
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anais
December 16, 2010 at 6:40 PM
Hey hey - Sorry to be a killjoy but...
I presume you're just being flippant with the AIDS comment but not everyone who comes to this site may realize you're being such.
It's highly unlikely that one contract HIV (the virus that leads to AIDS) from sucking on a few drops of blood from a tiny puncture wound.
I have to admit it's the first time I've ever come across HIV and Bohemian being associated. Pot or even heroin maybe, but HIV? Maybe if the bohos shot up heroin using dirty needles, but even that stereotype is a bit outdated.
Anyhow, just trying to prevent any unfounded stereotypes from being perpetuated unintentionally.
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50 bjharm
December 16, 2010 at 2:35 AM
the drama has and still dose raise issues that have importance in today's korea. That is the idol - anti fan and what stars can feel/face due to nothing more than empty gossip through the internet. Now we have a hint at the sponsor-actress bit, as said it more like a casting couch but the point is of course are the girl willing or forced by their management company.
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