I didn't like 300 too. It's all gore and blood for no good reason...so most likely this is not for me too.

I'm ok with a little ecchi but hentai is a lttle hard to swallow. It just felt ..sick.

Guess that makes me a prude too?

The Korean 'Spartacus blood and sand' if you like that sort of thing

I'm not familiar with how Kdrama get their funding.

For American TV show, it's about 42 minutes of actual show + 18 minutes of ad.

I noticed that most K-Dramas are about 60+ minutes. How many minutes of ads for a typical Kdrama?

And what are the normal start time?

I see some 9:55pm, some 9:45pm etc....

So for example, Secret Garden starts at 9:45pm, when does it end? (11:15pm?) how many minutes of ad?

Spring Waltz guy is in it?

Kinda wanna watch now.

But not enough to actually watch it.

I love 300.
I love Spartacus
Rome was amazing.

This is up my alley. Now if Korea could make something like Boardwalk Empire, I'd be set.

Where can you get this drama btw? I haven't seen it anywhere tbh.

I anticipated this one based on earlier press about it, and did expect something different.

After watching most of epi 1, the shock value was there, but I did not understand what was happening so I need to see it fully subbed. It appears that characters are cold, colder, and cold/ruthless still....I have to understand the storyline and so will hang in there until subbed to see if there is anything compelling about it.

Okay so I was just fast-forwarding though the first segment on Viki (since it wasn't fully subbed yet) and I have to say that I regretted doing so....it feels kinda gross to me....well no offense to anyone out there who thinks it is good. Guess it's just not my cup of tea.

Urgh, I never watched 300 either, so I'm definitely not going to watch this!! XD It'd just make me cry and feel disturbed. The scene with the woman who got shot you described...how can anyone even think of that stuff?! @_@~ I don't get it.

It wasn't a terrible first episode, though being use to the overly trendy dramas I was taken aback by some of the stuff they showed (the obvious cable-only stuff). That said they need to tone down the blood splatter/gore factor since it is just overdone/cheesy to say the least.

I'm actually kind of curious about the female lead's reason for revenge, the synopsis for her character doesn't really sell me on the idea of her doing whatever she's going to do out of spite/or from being rejected by one of the male leads (since he wanted her to be with his brother instead of him).

Given the closing scene in episode 1 I have to wonder how they're going to pick up in episode 2.

I couldnt even finish the trailer it made me sick

guess i'm a prude too.

pictures remind me of...sin city hahahaha

A few questions as I'm new in kdrama land. What is a cable drama? How is it different to a normal drama? (Apart from it being aired at midnight)

What is hentai? Name of a show or a word?

Ir mostly reminds me of Rome (the series made by HBO).

"I like to think I’m not a prude, but who knows, maybe I am. If not liking this kind of stuff makes me one, I’m okay with that."

Yeaaaah, me too.

I'm not bothered by extreme debauchery and really like graphic novel type stuff- so I took at look at this drama. Although I have no idea what is going on so I think I'll wait a few weeks for subs to come out- but so far it seems exciting and interesting.

I may not be the best judge though because even if it sucked I'd still watch it for Seo Do-young ;)

Darn. Seo Do-young is here? I didn't even recognize him! OMGosh. Is he the antagonist here?!

first 6-8 minutes has around a total of probably 1 minute's worth of gross foursome with the king but other than that and the overblown cg blood effects, it looks like it has a cast with pretty solid acting chops (from the first ep anyway).

i don't think i'll continue to watch it but it's interesting to see what will happen to the three leads. their back story seems to be pretty good i'm kinda excited for it.

Javabeans, was wondering whether you have heard of a currently airing cable drama on eChannel called 'Angsimjeong' starring Kim Ha Eun of CitC fame?

Its based on Joseon era too & features a secret organization as well.

Further info: http://www.viki.com/channels/2015-angsimjeong

The thing is this cable drama is so LOW profile and the English subs are only like less than 10% done for the episodes, so it's quite a struggle to follow the drama knowing zilch Korean and basically, I'm just enjoying the visuals, fighting scenes and Kim Ha Eun :D

KHE's character is more kick-a... here but her character's background is similar to that in CitC.

KHE garnered a lot of love in CitC, so would love to know your take on her latest sageuk drama.

As for Yacha, I'll be checking it out soon, thanks for your take on it.

From your description of the show, I can certainly see why they managed to sell rights to Japan. Given that there are Japanese films that touts themes of stylized/artistic "violence", this may sit well with some the audience there

I watched the first episode and I really liked it! I'm really looking forward to what happens in the next few episodes. The violence and the sex didn't make me blink because...well, I watch HBO and, like other people have said, the show does resemble some HBO shows (and even Dexter, in parts). But the violence here was much more campy...I didn't think it was squick-worthy or very convincing. But it is a really interesting show. Watch it, definitely.

I think you have to watch it first before judging. Seriously guys it's not violence for violence...There's a huge story behind...And this show it's make for adults. It's more realistic than shocking...It doesn't talk about a girl who infiltrates a band so she can do something bla bla and bla...

Personally I think you can criticize whatever you feel like it. But in my opinion you don't have to be so Judgy or try to stereotyped every thing...Give it a go with an open mind...that's all...

Why will it be no sex in this show ? Why the sex is not supposed to be cold ?? I remind you that this scene describes sex between a king and some courtesans. Girls who probably DO not want to have sex but I have to (fake it----the sound) because the guy is the king.

The guy shooting the girl in the first place why don't you tell in your critic that he did that because she was trying to run away...This drama talks about some specific time in history where some people were leaving differently...And if they have to shock people so they can through the reality of this time..so go for it..

Seriously I give it go and I was positively surprised by the outcome...I would say I better watch Yacha than YAB or Boys over Flower..

can please someone tell me why there are gladiators in this show? i'm pretty sure there were not gladiators in korea back then :)

Hi

I had the exact same impression as all you "prudes." This drama is definitely not for the fangirls or grannies. But it does draw a lot of attention! :P

-Rokujo no Miyasudokoro

So i just finished watching this....only 12 short episodes!

I don't get the ending at all!

Someone who watched it explain to me? This isn't a much talked about drama, but the acting and effects were great!

Sounds like showtimes spartacus. Love that show. So who knows I might like this.

I made it through the gory first episode, which let me glimpse a bit of its soul, and I found that little bit very compelling. So glad that I stuck with it because this is turning out to be a really great series. I'm in episode 3 only, but so much has transpired already that I'm surprised that I'm not already at episode 7. By contrast, Warrior Baek Dong Soo started out great, went blah for a really long time, and finally kicked into high gear with Episode 16. I was surprised that it was already Episode 16. Felt as if I had only gotten through 10 or 12 episodes worth of material.

Hopefully, after finishing up this Series, I'll be as impressed as I am now.

Here's my rant...How do I put this? This drama sucks.

I was put off by the first few minutes when it came out three years ago, and now that I got around to watching the entire drama, my reaction is still the same. I made myself watch it since I know that sometimes dramas turn out unexpectedly greater than I initially anticipate, but this one bombed. I especially skipped through most of the scenes of the Japanese island. No one looked or behaved Japanese, which is typical of Korean dramas, but this was way worse. The writers just threw the Japanese girl (who made me want to barf every time she showed up on screen) in as the reason for him to get off the island, kinda like how it was mentioned that the foursome in the first episode was for shock value, but I couldn't buy into it at all. There was no chemistry between the characters for the show to be enjoyable in the least.

Ok... I'll say something constructive. The drama would have probably been better if they had extended it rather than put in so many special effects. Vital parts of plot development and character study were glossed over by blood, gore, and swordplay.