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hey folks !
happy friday

is there any pills that cure drama addiction?
ow, boy, I wish *damn* SKKS would over!!
can't concentrate on my work!!!
hate LSJ, hate JS, hate YH!!!

awww....hey guys just joking :)

and again, can't wait MOn

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Sighh me too! I can't concentrate because of SKKS and Playful Kiss! Should have just waited till after my exams...which should be over in 2 weeks time. :D

Anyways, I have to say, eps 6 and 7 of SKKS were the best episodes EVAAR! My fave moments were:

1. When Yongha rescued Jaeshin from the guards, and the school chancellor thanked him by smacking his butt multiple times
2. When the Joseon F4 was formed. 4 pretty boys walking in a line, smiling and looking confident
3. The whole archery (Dae Sa Rae) competition. It was wonderfully edited and full of suspense. It totally wasn't obvious (to me, at least), that Daemul would have won.
4. When Jaeshin found out Daemul was a girl. OMG how hilarious was that!
5. Yongha and Jaeshin's bromance + Sunjoon and Daemul's blossoming friendship
Sighh. and i havent even started on playful kiss yet..

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well said! I would like to read your words on PK, too.

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Same here. I can't get myself to work just because I'm so preoccupied with SKKS like 3 more days to Monday(is what in my head right now). Not good.

I've also checked Bad milk site like others here last night staying up till 1am reading. I wish translated version of the book is published here in The States. I wonder if it is in Japanese?

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trust me you're all better of than me...i have an exam on monday and on wednesday...and all i can think of is hw i'm going to accomodate watching the next two episodes of SKKS in between my studying....i think i spend more time doing that than studying

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Well,exams will not be postponed(highly unlikely :( )...so just study hard,and then all the epi would've been subbed,recaps done, and you can reward yourself for your hard work...you will enjoy watching them more,too(feel less guilty).... :)

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hehe...forgot the most impt part...Good luck on your exams :)

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I was denying it all along but I knew I was addicted when I started watching episodes even without the subs.... since I could not wait anymore.

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Love the new dramas that are running right now. we are coming out of drama drought - Dont you all think so. Skk Scandal being the juciest , and it is great that a blogger is actually writing all the 'hot stuff' of the novel down. Bad Milk - your fan salutes you

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hehe, me love yogurutu too, but I think we should salute there, yogurutu.blogspot, yeah ! friend .

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I know right! love the article she posted on Sunjoon vs Jaeshin. It was analytical and logical, helped me understand the relationship dynamics better (:

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This is the best site ever!!! Thanks javabeans and girlfriday for being the coolest writers :)

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Can't believe it's Saturday already and I haven't done any studying all week, damn all the drama, why do they have to be so addicting!!!
Am loving MGiAG and SS atm, Dong Yi becoming boring though.

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(it's Saturday in Australia already)

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Happy Friday fellow OT ers! How awesome was ep 7 and 8 of S Scandal?! Yong Ha's antics had me giggling pretty much through the entire two episodes!
"It's not that I want to see a nekkid girl, it's just to satisfy my scholarly curiosity." Good rationalization dude!

Yummy Faction roll call!

Gooo Yummy ^_~ !

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here!

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I'm so in love with Yong Ha .... I'm shipping everyone except the Ministers, I think! Lol! I've given up raw episodes, though, as I am definitely missing too much.

Does anyone else suddenly find hiccups sexy??

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*sheepishly raises hand* I think he can make sackcloth look sexy....oh wait, he already does!

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Seriously sexy sackcloth ... I realized during episode 7 I was holding my breath waiting for the next scene with him! I don't recall doing that so much before!

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worth repeating - here are recent images of hiccups / sackcloth
http://seoulbeats.com/2010/09/kpop-shots-questionable-pornstache/

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I second that vote!!! Tee Heee

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*raise hand* episode 7 ending was great. How adorable is Yoo Ah In? sigh

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i LOOOOOOOOVE gul-oh. i REALLLLLLLY hope he and yoonhee have some awesome scenes together (AND A KISS SCENE OR TWO OR MORE TOO!!!!) bc i know in the kdrama world of things the main guy always gets the girl

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Happy Friday Everyone!!

Wow it's been such a good week. Amazing episodes of MGIAG and SScandal. Yongha is such a hoot. I love him to bits. And Dae Woong...well he just might be kdrama boyfriend of the year.
Sadly though now that my fall shows are back on, I'm kinda torn apart as to which ones to watch first :(.

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Having the same exact problem, I watch on Hulu and my queue is getting pretty long

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I'm lucky that MGIAG is the only Kdrama I'm avidly watching right now. I'm vaguely meandering through several others, but I'm getting fatigued. So when MGIAG ends next week, I'll be taking a one-to-two-month-hiatus from Kdramas and catching up on my reading and my Netflix instant watch queue, which currently has 183 items, and considering that half of them are TV series, I have over 1500 hours of viewing material to begin plowing through. Yikes. At least I won't need subtitles for them.

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PK is turning out to be such a totally cute & engrossing drama..never mind the ratings & all...KHJ has improved by leaps & bounds & JSM is definitely stealing the show!!! LOVE IT!!!

Still not through watching MGiG, but it just confirms that the HONG Sisters are the BEST, this side of KDrama writing!!

I Am Legend's ending was so-so,not really outstanding...but love their OST!!!

Baker King's finale also didn't quite "rock my boat"...
Am looking forward to "Gloria" because of the Lee Chun Hee & So Yi Hyun tandem..

Giant is an awesome epic drama, I love despite the long wait for subs to be available..

KDrama has never been sooo good & 2010 dramas are the BEST!!!

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Oh yes...I'm also INTO SSK Scandal...great writing & Moon Hae Shin's awesome!!

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thank goodness it's the holidays, with so many awesome dramas this month, i've lost all the motivation and will to study. now i can watch without fear of unfinished homework and exams.

oh is the SSK Scandal ost fully released yet? i've been trying to find one of its instrumental piece of music, but it's not in the existing track list. gah.

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There's probably going to have a OST part 2 from what I understand...
And don't you just love the OST? Even the instrumentals are lovely. <3

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*Gender Bending*

In an age where people used the word “Equality” very loosely I am very disappointed at how dramas like “ Sungkyunkwan Scandal, Coffee Prince, You Are Beautiful”,etc,etc, used the
“gender bending motif” as the background for two “straight” people to “Fall In Love”.

I personally do not like it at all, the reason being is that in the above mention dramas, as the case is presented,
one or two, or three in the case of “You Are Beautiful and Sungkyunkwan Scandal” more than one guy fall “romantically” for the “Effeminate Guy”,
am I a “Homophobe”? I am not!!!

I do not have a problem with a “Bro-mance” at all because man do have the capability to “bond” at a deeper level with other man with out having a homo/erotic nature.

What I am talking about is the “implications” that in a “Normal” setting takes place when a man develops “romantic feelings” for another man, and I do feel that the way this dramas used this premise “Cheapens” the whole “Homosexual/Lesbian” experience.

Coffee Prince is the only drama where we see the male lead
“agonizes” about the fact that at the end of the day he may be “Gay”, and in You are Beautiful, we see that Jeremy do fall for Go mi nam as man, since he was the only one to find out at the end that she was a girl, and now for all intended purposes Sun-joon is falling for Yoon-hee as a “Man” not as a woman since he does not know “that he is a she”.

I personally find this interaction offensive from the stand point that most of us now (Straight) people what the implications are if we started to have “romantic”feelings for some one that shares our same gender.

Like I said before since we know ahead of time that the “He is a She”, it is easy to justified the way Choi Han Kyul fell for Go Eun Chan, the way Jeremy fell for Go Mi Mam, and now the way Sun-joonis falling for Yoon-hee, but let us assume for a moment that the “He is really a He” will we be rooting with the same fervor for their “Romantic Experience”? If not I guess is time for us to take a second look at the way we “see and judged Homosexuality!!!!!!!

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Sorry for the misspelled words! and grammatical errors!!! Amg1

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Count me in..... I would really have been rooting for them even if there were only males involved in the story....I guess we are now in times where we can overlook the "difference/similarity in gender" issue.....love transcends all

however, i don't think there is anything wrong with the plotlines of these stories.... i dont think they want to bring out the unsuitability of homosexuality even in the remotest way......the fact that eventually both han kyul and jeremy accepted their feelings for the lady disguised as man, proves this

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I personally love gender bending stories. I think the first one I ever saw was a soccer movie called LadyBugs or whatever with Jonathan Brandis, and I thought it was the best movie ever for a very long time.

I don't think that it is a comment on the inappropriateness of homosexuality. I think that if "he is really a he" we would still be rooting for them. One of the stories about gender bending, Hana Kimi, had two characters in the manga that were both homosexual or had homosexual moments, and I rooted for both of them (the doctor and one of the students). I wasn't fond of the fact that when the series was done live action the student became a joke while the doctor magically was cured of his homosexuality, but in the manga it was tastefully done and I loved it.

In SKKS, there would be less of a story if Yoon Hee were not a woman, and I think that YB wasn't meant to inspire deep thought on the nature of homosexuality or the morality that goes along with it.

Besides, there's some sort of Asian movie... something about Frozen Flowers or something, that really addresses homosexuality quite brutally.

My point being that I don't think that homosexuality is ignored. I think that it would not appeal to the targeted audience and sell as well, which as we all know with our obsession over ratings, is the end goal.

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Well said!!

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It may be just me, but in my case I don't keep in mind that "she is a he". I don't. I root for the character, for the person that interacts with others, for the human being that falls in love and has their love reciprocated.

I enjoyed and anguished about Coffee Price so.much.more because I kept forgetting Eun Chan was a girl, because Han Kyul's pain was almost too real - and when he realized the truth and felt hurt, I also wished along him that "Eun Chan's lying, he's not really a girl".

There's one gender bender drama you've not mentioned, Painter of the Wind, where the girl (who practically grew up as a boy) is attracted to another girl. And guess what? I also rooted for them, even if I knew they weren't going to be together at the end.

"You're Beautiful" isn't my favourite as a gender bender, because indeed Go Mi Nam acted just like a girl, but Coffee Prince, Painter of the Wind and Sungkyunkwan, they show women who are more masculine, who behave in a different way of the norm - and it isn't *despite that* that men fall for them; it's *because of it* that they do.

Just like the Professor tells Yoon Hee: "Inside the Sungkyunkwan walls, you're not a girl".

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i think although these girls are disguised as males, they cannot hide their "feminineness." it's all a case of biochemistry. the guys inhale/detect the girl's pheromone scent and are therefore subconsciously attracted to her.

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i think although these girls are disguised as males, they cannot hide their “feminineness.” it’s all a case of biochemistry. the guys inhale/detect the girl’s pheromone scent and are therefore subconsciously attracted to her. so, technically, the men are straight since they are reacting to female pheromones.

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lapiz and flo @ 9.6.
Good explanation on a scientific level. TQ.
But it will sure would wreck havoc in Sun Joon stoic character. Can't wait to see that :)

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For me nothing is wrong. speaking scientifically, when a female attracted a male they develop a certain scent that make you fall in love. well my english isn't good so explaining this is really hard.

For example in SKKS, the ginseng that fall in love with the girl disguise in guy, is called the complex of oeudipe. she is obviouisly in love with herself and try to find someone who can understand her.

about SJ falling in love with YHee, I found it normal. He is overlooking her apparence as a boy and fall in love with the personn she is in reality and in fact YHee act a lot like a girl. She has the same sensibility and the same way of thinking. Even if she tried hard to be a guy she can t be totally. Now ask why SJ didn t fall in love with YHwa? or why the other guy didn t fall in love with YHee. Two people are a match cos they produce a scent which is only readable by those people..huhuhuhuh..Science can explain what feeling cannot..hehehehe

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I love how absolutely unpredictable OT gets sometimes, from the utterly silly (guilty!) to the the deeply existential, as per this question on the nature of love!

I can't resist this gender bender topic, since my namesake was one of the more successful at it in Western literature! Yes, I am biased ;)

In S scandal, I got so swept up in the story that I was actually surprised at the bath scene, I had this moment where I had to remind myself that "oh yeah, she is a girl!" I was completely involved in her growth as a person, that her gender was besides the point. True, I enjoyed the occasional giggle at Moon's hiccuping expense but since this drama is more than a simple love story; be it between boy boy, boy girl, or girl girl that the gender of the lovers doesn't really matter. But a girl pretending to be a boy does add another layer of conflict and heighten the narrative tension. It's one of my favorite tropes 'cause it makes such a darn good story!

For me personally, Love (yes with a capital L) is a deeply complex thing independent of gender. If we could just blame love on the neurotransmitter Oxytocin and called it a day, think of how much simpler and poorer our world would be!

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hey, chill. it's a drama, not a research paper.

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No way! It is too much fun to argue about this! Plus, it makes people think... which is the point of art, is it not?

Love you anyway!

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Standing up for Love, truth and justice, Unnie you are the wind beneath my wings! :)

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Aww... little sister, you make me blush!

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Am at work right now debating the widsom of shutting my office door and watching the new episodes of MGIG...I'm trying to stave off the temptation but failing miserably. The show is calling to me!

Last night while watching Playful Kiss the thought ran through my mind (not for the first time) that it feels in some respects like an American family sitcom - the atmosphere of the show seems similar, and the lack of a strong story thread is more suited to the long-running format of American television. This is one of the first times I've felt like a k-drama could be adapted for American television without too much adjustment.

Hope you all have a great weekend! My mom's in town visiting me so we have fun planned...plus, the weather is finally feeling like autumn and I'm so happy about that. All my love to all of you...especially the recappers who bring so many smiles to my face during the week!

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Javabeans and Girlfriday, thanks for all your speedy recaps! (: Have a great weekend everyone!

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Ep 13 of MGIAG was awesome. But Ep 14 sucked big time for me. It completely ruined it for me. This whole suffering-in-silence thing is getting mighty old. Skipping ahead in time too. Argh. This could have been my favourite drama of all time.

Dang.

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I agree. It seemed ridiculous that MiHo would even accept DW's flimsy excuse. I mean the man clearly gave up half his life for her in episode 13, and suddenly in 14 they decide on a forced separation. But since episode 13 was just so amazingly good, I'm willing to let that slide.
Either way, next week is the make it or break it moment. If there's a repeat of episode 13, sign me up for the DVD but if it's going to something as terrible as 14, then yeah, I'll have to pass.

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Oh my Lord, yes!

****MGIAG episode 14 spoilers ahead****

I could not BELIEVE my eyes when I realized that Dae-woong was going to be, in the words of Javabeans, "a noble idiot" and break Mi-ho's heart -- and his own -- in the name of keeping her safe and protecting her. I was too tired to yell but I was all, Dae-woong, did you by any chance watch yourself in the last episode? You gave up HALF OF YOUR LIFE for that girl because you couldn't live without her, and you couldn't let her run away from you and shoulder her burden alone. And now you're doing this nobly-suffering-in-silence nonsense? Go back and watch the last episode and get your characterization back!

I was a bit disappointed because I was so sure that we weren't going to have any of that enforced separation ridiculousness. This drama has been consistently above-grade in all respects, so I hated this reminder that even the best drama writers will utilize inorganic shortcuts to product angst. Regardless, I'm in it until the end. They're allowed to have one hiccup. MGIAG is still one of the best dramas I have ever watched and it has me completely in its pocket. Maybe episode 14 it'll be better when I re-watch it tonight with subs. But I'm certainly expecting Girlfriday to remark on that one.

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I'm in the depths of despair :-(
Viikii subs for ep 14 are up.I should have never read the spoilers on soompi.That would teach me a lesson.

I wait with bated breathe for GF's recap tomorrow.I love all 3 dramas but all 3-SS,PK,MGIaG have reached varying degrees of suffering this week.What's a girl to do?I have triple the amount of KD angst this week :-(

Even a WGM ep on Sat won't pull me up from this.The saving grace both PK and MGIaG had such funny moments this week...maybe..aish :-(

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Honestly I was expecting this show to be absolutely phenomenal till the very last few episodes. Because that is where the Hong sisters usually loose me and in a gigantic way. You're Beautiful, I squealed at like a little piglet in happy marinade until about episode 14 when I realized they were going to place lots of emphasis on the wrong things and split our main couple.

Hong Gil Dong could have been the single greatest drama ever made if not for the bizarre ending which left me throwing things at my monitor and venting uncontrolled at friends for weeks. Why build up the secondary relationship as this tragic alternative for so long and not use it. Why? It still makes me mad.

My Girl is still the most romantic drama of all time in my opinion, but it also has odd pacing for the last few episodes. Weird unwanted scenes that just pop in for no reason.

It's like these sisters have a other worldly premiss and skills in telling the main story but flip-out and become wing-nuts to end things. Sad to say I was expecting 14 to be not the greatest. I was only please as punch that episode 13 was so fantastic. In my head that is where the series shall end.

Java, You definitely won for reviews this week.

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Absolutely. It sort've feels like the Hong sisters either run out of steam or bow down to kdrama cliches. My only hope is that they turn the whole thing around in episode 15.

@lahlita
lol. you want a kdrama writer to go back and look at their characters from the previous episode? Like that would ever happen. Tsk tsk you should know this by now:P.

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Hah. No, I wanted Dae-woong to go back and watch himself in the previous episode. Crazy boy apparently forgot who he actually is. He's always upfront and honest and he forgot that, so I thought if he watched himself in the previous episode, he would let go of the noble suffering stupidity he brought in episode 14.

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Can I put a different spin on this? What if it's not so much suffering in silence as it is that he still doesn't understand the concept of communication? I mean, he's doing the same thing that Miho did - withholding information in order to protect the other person (at least, that's what they're doing in their minds). They both need to come to a point where they realize that talking it out and solving the problem together is better than not doing that, despite what they believe. It's possible that for Daewoong, ep 13 was about proving his love for her and giving up something in an attempt to save her life, as opposed to meeting her halfway and fixing stuff together. This is what WE all know (or thought) it to be, but it hasn't dawned on him just yet. He's learned how to care about another person, but he hasn't learned how to share burdens with them. I mean, we humans are fickle, we're constantly giving advice that we don't take ourselves - in light of all that, his apparent turnaround doesn't seem weird at all.

It does seem like the Hong Sisters orchestrated the whole thing just to have the trademark k-drama separation, but I think that by flipping the situation both ways, they manage to show that Daewoong and Miho are still new at this whole love thing, and still have some growing to do.

Okay, dissertation done. Have a good weekend, everyone!

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OK, I've watched episode 14 again, this time with subs. On second thought, Dae-woong wasn't being a total dingbat. Yes, the hurting-her-for-her-own-good bit was awful and horrible to watch (God, he was so mean), and the separation was heartrending, but now I'm not sure that Dong-joo gave him much of a choice.

There's the obvious bit where Dong-joo said that if Dae-woong stayed by her side, Mi-ho would slowly lose more tails until she died. So the obvious choice would have been for Dae-woong to run and tell Mi-ho that they would have to split up until the 100th day, and I do believe that he would have done that right away. Honesty has always been his modus operandi.

HOWEVER, according to the subs Dong-joo also said that Mi-ho had to not only be apart from Dae-woong, but that she had to completely lose all hope/longing of becoming human and being happy with Dae-woong in order to survive. Only in losing the actual longing to become human could the deaths stop. And we all know that THE ONLY WAY for Mi-ho to no longer care about becoming human would be for her to believe that Dae-woong no longer loved her or wanted to be with her; that he really did see her as a monster. And THAT is why Dae-woong had to completely break her heart. If he'd said, "Let's split up for now so you're safe, and then I'll come back for you," her heart's antenna would still be pointed toward him, the longing would still be there, and she would continue moving towards humanness -- and death. She needs to not want it, which means she needs to believe Dae-woong no longer wants her.

As such, it worked for me. I still do not like that the writers chose t go the angst/separation route when these kids have enough real problems, but now I can understand the rationale behind Dae-woong's noble suffering and I don't mind so much. Well played, Hong Sisters, well played.

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Lolz, so I totally wrote an entire response to your first comment saying why I think it worked, before noticing you'd written this. Your explanation is better than mine. Thank you for your wisdom, Lahlita-seonsaengnim! *bows*

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Hi folks, first time commenting on OT, couldn't resist seeing as the topic being discussed was about my current drama-love!

Ep 14 broke my heart, thought the forced separation trope was too cliched when it came into play again, just as I thought the Hong Sisters were finally gonna give us something completely awesomepants and different.

But i did watch it without subs (non-korean speaker) and now that I've seen your responses it makes much more sense. Not that I like the decision Dae-Woong made, but at least I won't spend the next week stewing in discontent over the noble idiot decision he made while waiting for new episodes to come out XD

Still LOVE MGIaG though, hope the finale does the rest of the series justice!

Thanks for your awesome insights and discussions! It's so much fun dissecting k-dramas beyond the superficial and this is what makes Dramabeans so awesome! Have a good week everyone. =)

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You right discussion at Dramabeans can lead to every where...Love it. Like you can give the OTers question and you will get the answer from the silly but funny one to most insightful one, but each one of them will be really appreciated, won't it?

LMAO on discussion about drier, dishwasher, laxative, to handy-dandy soju tent below, ha, ha, ha

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This mean for 9.6.1 Viola but end up here, hee...those yellow dots and number is confusing me sometimes

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Still say the Hong sisters didn't have to go there with the breakup. Have any of you seen Chrono Crusade? Almost the same romantic plot line, but done infinitely better at the end. Their life depends on the other and their love makes them want to sacrifice all for that love. Emotionally speaking, I was happy, sad, and romantically moved to tears by that ending. I cried for 30 minutes straight and the makers deserved every tear I shed. Knowing that this type of plot can be done that well, I am disappointed.

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I agree. I am NOT happy that the Hong Sisters went the breakup route, but at least they gave Dae-woong a damned good reason for the noble suffering schtick. Now, as to whether or not Dong-joo is lying, I have no idea, but there's nothing else Dae-woong could have done in this situation, going on the information that he had. Still, I do wish it hadn't happened this way. Le sigh.

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MGG is just so so so so cute ! I'm sooo lovin' this drama.

I have to consciously distract myself with work so as not to die of anticipation.

One more week to go !!

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Been a fan of yours for awhile now, just wanted to let you know you are much appreciated. Thanks for all you do...and all the guest bloggers also.

I was not interested in Playful Kiss at all until I read a few of your recaps. Kim Hyun Joong surprisingly won me over with his decent acting in the last couple episodes. His messy hair provoked me to watch an episode of WGM. Now, I'm a fan. Let's hope it all goes well for him and the show.

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i know u may say this is an old drama but i had to see it coz of my love & admiration for Kim ji hoon it's called How Much Love....woah this drama is soooo good altho it's lengthy, it's just so sad that it's not avail. online - however i had to resort to a dvd w/o subs & somehow i can follow through & didn't realize Kim ji hoon has a nice singing voice, i'm almost certain he was not lipsynching (spell?). Beautiful love story altho i hvnt finished but it's really worth my while --- it's one of those addictive dramas! I've seen a number of Kim's prev. projects & i can tell you all of which have been really favourable in terms also of his acting skills! This guy can cry, be funny & all that! Of course one of my faves wld be Stars Falling.

Happy w/end to you JB & all here!
Haeng bokhan Chuseok to all our Korean friends, celebs & ev.body in Korea & elsewhere who are Koreans!

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I am addiceted to this blog. as soon as I open my eyes and turn on the computer, this is one of the first pages I check and keep checking the whole day...dramabeans is as addicting as the dramas you guys write about XD

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I know right!! I bookmark & Favouritize DBs on every device that allows me to view this site on.. haha.. lappys, itouch, cellphones, ps3s, work computers, netcaf computers.. :D suffice to say, I act like I own everything, well, I dont..

my heart is quietly sobbing as we approach the final eps for MGiG, all things Woong-tastic must come to an end - SUCK

as for post-Gumiho recouperation, I will seek refuge in the should.be.illegal.coz.its.damn.too.hot.and.just.friggen.awesome
Yummy-Moony-Smarty Faction! FTW!

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Yummy/james bond(Song Joong Ki.):

Sporting curls and glasses on Music Bank. I have seen him in glasses before and I approve strongly of that, but the curls I'm just not sure about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfTcYKfRSv8

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ke ke
He should give Park Bom some room!

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oh god :D
hmm, i am thinking that that is not the best hair style for our yummy. but he is cute nonetheless..!!!

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Happy Friday!

I am hooked on the TW drama : Zhong Wu Yen. I eagerly waited for it to air but the first few episodes were average at best. But my love for Ming Dao made me stick with it, and from episode 5 things got better. Right now ZWY is the best TW drama to watch : it has interesting characters, deals with prejudice in society against people who are different, addresses the issue of plastic surgery in the entertainment industry and of course the love story which develops over time between out 2 leads- played by the always wonderful Ming Dao and Cheryl Yang .

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i love that drama too! wouldn't say it is the best one, but sure is very interesting and addictive!
and yes, I sticked with it because of mingdao too!!

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HAPPY FRIDAY! ^_^

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Love the recaps for SKKS & MGIAG b/c haven't found time to sit and read watch the episodes... must say I love this site!!! =D Keep up the amazing work!!! =) OH yeaa... TGIF!!!

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Hi everyone. I need help for school (I know lame, but I'm desparate at this point). It's a marketing class, and we have to pick a country and then a product we think we would want to try to export (from the US) to that country and than write a marketing plan, etc. We picked South Korea because we wanted to do something like Walgreens, but the Professor said to make it easy and just pick a simple product. We're.... at a stump. So, any suggestions.

P.S. Sorry jb. Like I said, desperate. And at desperate time, desperate kids do desperate things.

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Please and Thank you.

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this is so lame that it's hilarious. so amused.

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Dryers.

Export energy-efficient and inexpensive dryers to Korea and you'll never have to work again. I have it on good authority from all of my Korean-American and currently-dwelling-in-Korea friends, that Korean dwellings are awash (hah!) in laundry machines, but not so much dryers, and there is much hanging of laundry on racks and clotheslines and things.

Write up a plan to export and mainstream dryers. Or a washer/dryer combo. Or maybe a 2-in-1 machine? Do we have those in the US? I don't even know. :-P

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It's interesting you would say dryers. Of course I can't speak for other families, but my MIL hates the dryer! She insists on taking out every single piece of clothing and air drying them, before ironing them. Yes underwear included.

But hey it's a class...so go for it! One of my friends did something as ridiculous as tomato chips. It's the plan that counts!

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Yeah, I've been made to understand that the vast majority of people are cool with air-drying their stuff because that's just how things are. But in marketing, you need to conjure up a need where there was none before, then offer the masses the product to fill said need (thank you Don Draper).

Ergo, write up a plan to convince Koreans that their lives are inefficient, time-wasting expanses without Western-made dryers, then get an A. :D

Or you could just export Jason Mraz. They love Jason Mraz. "I'm Yours" is all over the place. Or it was. It was the background music in every variety show, and every coffee shop scene in every drama for, like, four months.

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How about a dishwasher? I always see people washing dishes by hand in all the dramas. They have so many side dishes, it seems that they would have a lot of dishes each meal. If you could design a dishwasher that cleaned very well and had a quick drying cycle (normal dishwashers take a long time to dry), and energy efficient, so you could use it 3 times a day.
I currently have a LG (Korean brand) dishwasher. I'm not too happy with it. It cost $1,000 (make yours cheaper). It does not heat up the water before it cleans the dishes (this would be a good function. You find it in BOSH dishwashers) Have it not recirculate the dirty water, so you have no food particles stuck on you food at the end of the cycle.
Your niche should be the younger, hipper generation. They don't want to waste their time on household chores. They have money to spend. Plus, not everyone lives in a joint family anymore. Less people to help with the household chores.
Hope this helps.

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Although this might be an embarrassing product to present in front of a class, my recommended product is Ex Lax, or metamucil ;)

Of all the K dramas/ movies I have watched, only a small handful of them didn't feature a painfully constipated character, heroically suffering in the toilet. So, even if only 10% of what we watch in a drama is true then there are a lot of suffering people in Korea.

But since I have very little outside knowledge of of day to day life in Korea, take my prophetic pronouncements about laxatives with a grain of salt or a glass of metamucil!

I am sorry if I offended anyone, I was being my usual irreverent self. :)

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Laughed my pants off there, and made a run for the bathroom :P

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The All-in-One-Box Handy-Dandy Fold-Up Soju Tent-on-Wheels, looks like a suitcase, lets you drink at will in any location.

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LMAF, since I already laughed my pants off earlier. :P

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Oh my God, this needs an informercial! One of those late-night 30-minute informercials. NOW.

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And for a limited time only, also comes with GPS and warm back in order to piggyback you to the correct home after a long night of binge drinking after you have found out that your long lost brother's dog has cancer of the liver and will only live for 3 more hours unless a compatible spleen can be found which fortunately your neighbor's auntie has but she can't say that she has it because she's in love with your grandfather who is secretly a millionaire.

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lmfao! This so so so needs an infomercial with Kim In Kwon sales pitching it.

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BAHAHAHA! I love you guys (every one of you). I don't now if you guys were half as serious as I was when I asked, but I'm thankful for what I'm given.

As for 'b', thanks, I already said I was being lame, I only needed you to confirm that. I like the dishwasher idea as well as the dryer, but man is LG hard to fight against or what?! XD

Thank you everyone. Your suggestions was loads of help. X)

P.S. Dramabeans visitors/frequenters should have a name, like "Beanians" or "D-Beanians" or "Dramabeanians". I don't know, there's time to figure it out.

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You forgot the part where they are half siblings! That's the most important part!

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Dang it! What was I thinking? I'm so glad that I have you to remind me of these important details!

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Good luck on your project Ani I hope you get an A. Don't worry about 'B', I have been in your desperate shoes many times, and pulled many all nighters. You have all my sympathies! *hug*

Fighting! ;)

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Happy Friday Dramabeans friends and family!!!!!!!

LOL yesterday my hubby comes home from work and sees me checking my gmail. He say do that later, put our drama on first. So, I tell him we are not watching anything today. (he'd been bugging me earlier on the phone, so I needed to bug him back:D) So, he starts to surf the t.v. , BONES is on. He reluctantly starts to watch. He's not a happy camper right now. He keeps looking back to see if I'm done. Of course I take my sweet time:P Twenty minutes later I turn to him and say "Do you still want to watch"? I'm thinking he is into Bones and won't watch now. (this is a test).
In a flash he turns the t.v. off. He opens up his laptop and puts SMILE, YOU on. :D
LOL, this is the same guy who told me a year ago, "What is this GARBAGE you are watching all the time"?
HA!!! Now, he can't survive without his one hour daily dose. :D

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Hi! *hugs* Wow! How awesome is your family! I am all sorts of jealous now, I can not even imagine my father watching K dramas. Um... do you think he might adopt me too? ;)

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You are welcome any time. We have already unofficially adopted my daughter's best friend who also happens to be Korean. :P

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Yay!! Please give my salaam and respect to Baba! :)

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LOL...this is sooo funny!!

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Aw that is so cute. But that was me last night trying to watch Bones and MGIAG at the same time. But MGIAG won and I decided to dvr the bones episode which is what I should've done in the first place.

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Happy Friday everyone...

At new place now, everyone here has been very nice to me, really, treads me like their own family. Far from my friends&sister whom usually I can share my craziness about kdrama & others related with kpop, just make me little bit lonely, but still can visit this site feel like a cure (can I ask all beaners&OTers to be my family too??^^) If only they can read this I want to say thank you very much...

My sister ask me to join her to see kpop idol group concert in Singapore next January (can you guess who is this kpop idol group?^^). It will cost a lot, I guess - I have to work harder & save more, at the time I'm on the top of my laid back life. Why oh why there's no kpop or kpop singer/group/band want to held their concert at Indonesia? we, kpop/jpop fans at Indonesia, are not considerable enough? For consideration, Indonesia has population more than 200 million, if 0,01 % or 0,001% of its population is Kpop/jpop fan, is it still a lot? ha, ha, ha just kidding. My dream of watching FT Island concert live in Indonesia is still far away from coming true.

Anyway still on September, but i can say that 2010 is the best year of kdrama, the reason why i'm on the top of my laid back life, ha, ha, ha

SKKS rock!!Love this series with all my heart ^_^. Happy Friday, Saturday, Sunday & the rest days of the week....

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LOL 2010 was a strange year for Kpop in Singapore. Before this year, it was like Singapore never existed in the world of marketing for Kpop. Then 2010 hit, and it's like, we've had kpop artistes visit almost every month. Sometimes a couple in a month. It's driving me insane (and also sadly broke). So don't give up hope yet. It could happen for Indonesia too.

Good luck saving up money for SS3 in Jan! If you're going, that is. I anticipate ticket prices to be crazy. Depending on the venue they select...I may or may not turn up...

Happy friday! (Saturday now, for me)

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Welcome to the Dramabeans family :D

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Wecome to the Dramabeans family :D

Hug to You :D

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Thank you...think i get family from all around the world and can be with them all around the world,...wow how wonderful is that
hah that's why this site is so addictive just like kdrama it self.

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Warning rated PG 13

No Min Woo on drums!!!! (Fox hunter from Gumiho)
He's the former drummer from TRAX.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJNU1omNUdQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d01PQ69JREs

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See... this is unfair because I completely didn't care about his character before this. See what havoc you have caused? There's going to be rioting in the streets now. It may just be me rioting by my lonesome, but I'm going to blame it all on you.

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He also plays the guitar and sings :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWRxZZsSZQ&feature=related

His band 24/7 in 2009
He is the one in the middle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlmNPY05VtE

His former band TRAX (he was the drummer Rose)
I like this song, Over the Rainbow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCkAJtVTb28

Piano version is better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3hOEuyvoos&feature=related

I'm not sure, I think he is the one playing the piano. I know that he plays piano, drums and guitar. This is not him singing. It is the lead of Trax.

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Unnie you are late to the party! I have been wishing I was a drum for the past week! Let's riot! :)

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I got to go stock up on my riot gear first... (silly string, toilet paper, banana peels...)

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don't forget the oxygen masks! we will probably need them too after rematching the vid a couple of times!

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OMG, he's like having sex with his drum set!

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Lucky drum set!

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Must find my husband to release pent up ... energy. WHEW, he's hot! Oh, so is my husband .... hee hee!

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In the spirit of sharing No Min Woo love, I will share the lovely lovely, angst filled video Diadda made for me
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=G7J9X4XP
If it was physically possible I would cuddle this mv, but alas I have to be content with merely hugging the lappy's screen.

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Diadda makes some of the most awesome videos!

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So true! Did you see her stupid cupid one of S Scandal? Seriously that vid is like titanium armor. Life can kick or bite as much as it wants, but after watching that thing all you want to do is giggle and or chant "kiss kiss kiss" at the dangerous close ups between Moony and Yummy!

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Is it wrong of me to want a Moony/Yummy hook-up? I mean, we know Yoon Hee/Sun Joon is going to happen anyway. Can't we want some lovin' for our other guys? And really, wouldn't they make the most beautiful couple in the world? Of course, we could just teleport ourselves to ancient Korea and take care of things for them... but as I have yet to invent a time machine... or a teleporter for that matter...

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You guys didn't see the slash-fanservice one i made did you...all manner of bad things were implied. I had to make it. It isn't on youtube channel cause it isn't appropriate. That one is request only.

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So... here is my request? Is that what I have to do to watch naughtiness?

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give up a good night's sleep for the foreseeable future, I am guessing :)

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Actually I meant message my YT account, but I guess it can't be helped...

Parental warning

Slashables below. If you don't know what slash means. Don't look at this. If you are under 18, Don't look at this. If you are a sick little freak of a fangirl, Have at it!

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=NXY6R9L0

Plot: Yummy and Moony have a past relationship. Yummy is teasing Moony about it in front of his new lover.

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OMFG! You have serious chops as a storyteller through vid editing! I watched the vid before I saw your explanation and that was exactly the feel I got out of the vid. If I didn't know better I would seriously think that the love triangle followed a Yummy Moony Smarty configuration, Yon Hee who?! Too hot for words! :)

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GOOD!!!! Very beautifully made :D

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Thanks for sharing. That was really nice! may I ask who the artist is? and name of the song??

Thanks again for sharing the video.

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If in reference to the one made for viola. That was No Min Woo singing and the song was called Trap.

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OK, all o' y'all need to repent right now and ask for forgiveness! God doesn't like this. We must not lust as in the sinful manner of the secular flesh. REPENT!

...But before I repent, Imma watch these videos one more time, hallelujah!

(I'd totally planned to be asleep by now. Guess that plan went up in smoke. Oy.)

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Giggle, I was supposed to be asleep an hour or two ago. I don't think I shall be saved in any way tonight. :)

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Diadda I want to see that vid, please *puppy eyes*

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I feel like together we create this positive feedback loop.....not that you need me to supply any ideas....but how about using Cobra Starship's I kissed a boy for one of your vids? ;)

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I thought about using that for a suju vid, but they already have them :)

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So, I asked Jesus for forgiveness, but I had to wait while he watched this video...

Man, I need to go to church now, 'cause I got some confessin'....

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I am not even Catholic and I have an urge to go to confession..... "Forgive me father for I have sinned, because there was this three pretty boys in a K drama and one of my friend made a video..............."
Can you imagine the priest's face?

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I am Catholic...

It is a sin to have coveting and lustful thoughts about anyone other than your spouse. But, who is to say I won't marry any one of these yummy people in the future? I'm just being proactive in my lusting. :)

Yeah I know, time for my confession too. I expect at least a 10 rosaries for that video.

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I am all for proactive lusting! Also how much do I love that instead of Diadda on top of your video it says bad girl! Too adorable!

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Happy Friday!! Can't wait till today is over and done with. Need a weekend so badly.

Still loving PK and MGiaG (well, can't wait to actually watch MGiaG hehe) and loving the slow turn of events in PK :D

Also looking forward to The Social Network next weekend :)

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watching playful kiss right now! ep 8 =)

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So ... whadyathink?

MINOR SPOILER ALERT *****************

My daughter loved it, I liked it ... wont' give any spoilers yet, but there was a key change in BSJ's reaction to the usual OHN mishap. *cough* Gotchya, you cold rat bastard, you're on the downhill slide to confession!

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It's totally unimaginative to be all TGIF, but seriously, Thank God It's Friday. Tonight I will get off of work at 4:59pm EST, will be home by 5:11pm (short commutes for the win!), in my pajamas by 5:13pm, and after some teeth-brushing and face-washing, I fully expect to be in bed 5:20pm, reading more of The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo (so good!). I shall spend all of Friday evening reading in bed until I fall asleep at the crazy hour of, like, 7:30pm. Ah, it shall be glorious.

@Brookeeve How is your son, Unni? Hopefully our little one had a good week this week and didn't let any dingbat friends get him down? Precious child. I could just ask this via e-mail, but I know there were several people who responded on the last Open Thread who'd probably like to hear how he's doing.

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He's doing much better. He was really appreciative of everyone's trying to set him up with their daughters and nieces so that gave him a huge ego boost. We sat and talked for 3 hours one day after school, and I found out that his best friend (the blond haired, blue eyed football player) has been getting a lot of girls writing him notes and that's why my baby has been especially sensitive about his looks lately. I pointed out that he could beat said friend in HALO, and so he immediately cheered up at that thought. (I don't completely understand this rationale, but if it works for 13 year olds I'm going with it for now.) Also, when we went to the festival on Saturday I brought him by the Asian-American arts tent, and most of the girls there were staring at him. It worked like a magic self-esteem elixir. :)

Once again, I really want to thank everyone for the help and advice they gave last Friday. Because of my age, none of my friends' kids are teenagers so I don't have a lot of people around me that I can ask questions, and raising one in this weird void is really hard. You guys were a big help!

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Teenage years are tough. I have a 16 year old daughter. Thank God all her friends are Asian ( Korean, Japanese, Chinese) and come from very conservative backgrounds. So far I've been lucky no one is interested in dating or going to any of the school dances. She has friends who are boys and girls. Everyone hangs out in a group together at school.
She doesn't follow American t.v. or music at all. I feel that isolates he a little from the main crowd. (We live in California) She's a really innocent kid for a 16 year old. She also dresses very low key and is not interested in makeup yet. I would like to keep it like that a bit longer. I'm more worried about when she goes to college in 2 years.
So far all her crushes have been Korean actors or singers. I'm O.K. with that.
My 11 year old son still thinks girls are so annoying. So, I'm safe so far. Let's see what happens when he goes to middle school next year and sees what is going on there.

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My family is multi-cultural. Through adoption, multiple marriages, the military, and other random factors, no one (except me, I'm full blooded North American) in my family is full blood (name of continent). My beautiful step-child (who is Scots-Irish/Cherokee and German/Korean) was having problems last week with identity and peer relationships.

I wish that I could get him together with the kids from the people on this page. Everyone here was really great last week by offering advice and threatening the kids who were mean to him and etc. I love this page!

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@brookeeve

Wow. That's quite the mix you have there. Your family will be my role model. I think I'm definitely going to have to look you up once I have kids. I'm not sure if this too nosy, and hopefully not offensive, but how do you guys deal with all the different languages? I know being in America makes things a lot easier but I think I'd like my kids to be able to speak to their grandparents. But with ..well in my case, it would be four languages..I don't even want to think about it.

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We mainly speak English, but at times we do fall back on a polyglot whenever something needs to be expressed that English doesn't cover (like terms when discussing religion and philosophy). Plus, most of the people in our family are scientists, so Latin is always safe. :) And never underestimate the power of body language, facial expressions, and a willingness to look stupid in order to facilitate understanding.

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lol. I definitely got the "willingness to look stupid down.." I look pretty clueless when I interact with mr hunter bear's family. Hah! and I have the perfect excuse to watch kdramas...i'm only trying to learn the language :P. But sometimes I just wish they could understand me when I'm totally frustrated and hopping around trying to point at things. I'd feel bad for my kids if they had to do that.

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I am glad he is doing well. What is it about first person shooter games and teenage boys? My little brother is obsessed with Halo and pretty much anything that has blood in it.

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Happy Friday everyone!!!...Not so happy here cuz I am stacked with work and exams and still have to watch the next 2 eps of MGIAG

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OK idk why i couldnt finish my post...bt continuing where i left of....
from reading your comments it sounds like the Hong Sisters hit their routine final episodes angst point in MGIAG...i'm looking forward to see how thye resolve everything...and am going to be very sad when it gets over....I'm absolutely smitten b ySKKS....i'm soo gald i took it up despite the fact that i'm suffereing a hell lot from my large drama palate not working with my school schedule and all that....i still dont care...im totally addicited!!...also liking PK...ep 8 was soo awsome!!

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why Kdramas nowadays are exceptionally great. aigoo, I LOVE 'EM ALL!

SKKS, PK, and MGIAG. i cannot let go of them even now that times are getting tight because of academic deadlines. i can't miss the fun and excitement. it's just so impossible.

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The first week at work, 12 hours/ day, so tired (yesterday I got home at 7 and go to bed at 8 without taking shower ^^) and have no time for:
PK (second KISS plz)
SS
Gloria
I am legend
however, the good point is that I have so many eps to go on this weekend, ^^

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My colleagues asked me out to watch "Devil" tonight...and I looked at them and said, "Can't. Gumiho is playing tonight. Gotta run, guys!" and sped off like a bullet train.

This is HOW ADDICTED I AM TO THIS DRAMA. Ep 13 was gorgeous, great, fantastic...but from what I've seen from comments about Ep 14, as much as I tried to avoid them...sigh...the Hong sisters usually start to waver around this time for most of their dramas. I'm hoping Episodes 15 and 16 pick up. If they do, I'm picking up the DVDs for keeps.

Keep trying to convince my friend to watch SKKS, and she's all like, "But I'm so tired of gender-bending dramas and pure romantic comedy." whereupon I launched into a tirade of how labelling SKKS a mere "gender-bending" drama, complete with romance and comedy didn't do the series justice. It's got political intrigue! Well-written and developed side-characters! (Even Hyo-eun is actually quite interesting, especially if you take into consideration the age in which the drama is set)

Most importantly, I think the drama's got heart. The eye-candies don't hurt, of course (Hello Moony-Yummy-Smarty-and Yoon Hee coalition! ...have we decided what nickname we're giving all 4 of them yet?) but it's the heart of it all that's really appealing to me.

...ARGH now that I've gone and rushed through all my weekday dramas, WHAT AM I GOING TO WATCH OVER THE WEEKEND?!

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I love skks too. It's not your typical drama. I liked Tamna Island too, and was bummed when the ratings were so low. More people are starting to watch SKKS now.
@ Dramabeans I decided to watch SKKS because of all the good things you had to say about it before it aired. When I start any drama, I first check and see if dramabeans thinks it is worthy or not. :D