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101 janna
May 14, 2010 at 5:18 PM
TnK (blahhhhh): i wonder what Abes Chinese wife thinks about this role. ...
@A.: He's cute, he's a little over the top (You've already seen glimpses of that from the first episode) I guess I'm indifferent with his character romancing an older lady (I like Ha Sol Ji better). It has all the daily drama-drama going on. Bitchy moms, exes out to ruin your life, family lying. I try to cut it down to watching parts that don't make me want to rip my hair out.
@supah: "I’m sure he’ll wake up with amnesia" Really? So after lying now it will be the truth? hmmm
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102 bippa
May 14, 2010 at 5:22 PM
aww man
just watched PT ep 14 raw
how am I gonna last a week before the next episode?
SERIOUS cliffhanger
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103 pixie
May 14, 2010 at 5:58 PM
Happy Friday everyone!
lol @ 85 pabo ceo reom! yeah too much to read. sometimes i feel like swimming in words and slowly drowning from all the information.
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104 ilovekimchee
May 14, 2010 at 6:27 PM
Omigosh guys, so I was just on Hulu, and pasta was being advertised on the front page, and I was like, it can't be the Korean version of pasta right? but yes! apparently dramafever is now linked onto Hulu! How awesome is that??
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105 v
May 14, 2010 at 6:35 PM
phew... i'm now back to my house!! and i'm going to sleep... i was going to catch up with the eps of CS/PT/PP that i missed but i ended up watching Suju in repeat... haha... they are ROCKING their comeback!!
i feel so sorry for all the other pple comingback at the same time.. like teukie said, "sorry sorry, it's super junior time!"
and then i watched them on Sukira radio and dang, they sound GOOD live..
and now, it's time for me to sleep so i'll watch everything tomorrow..
and then i can discuss whether or not agree with SJ shippers regarding PP 13&14...
u guys sure seem super heated about the issue. XD
but most likely, i will disagree... just cuz our way of interpreting things has been completely different since the beginning.. lol... and NO, like i said before, ep 7 kiss is not sexual assault. haha.
TnK=Kimu, please choose a better project next time!
Yankee-k&Me-c=LOVE it!! but NwP still tops this.. si, oretachi wa itsu demo, futari de hitotsu datta.. haha :)
love windy btw... didn't see the kiss yet.. .i'm still on ep 72 but looking forward to it.
ok, i'm off to sleep.
enjoy OT!!
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106 v
May 14, 2010 at 6:58 PM
yoohoo!! according to AGB ratings, Rating from AGB came out.
3. Cinderella Unni - 16.2 17.4 (seoul)
7. Prosecutor Princess - 12.1 12.3 (seoul)
11. Personal Taste - 10.2 11.8 (seoul)
even according to TNS, PP got 12.0 (8th) for ep 14 and PT is 7th..
so PP improved!!!! looked like the kiss worked.. can't wait to watch ep 13-14 tomorrow! and it's currently the #1 searched drama on Naver, Daum, and Nate search engines!!
credits;soompi.com
it's so funny how DB is the home of IW haters and soompi is the home for IW lovers.
it's quite interesting and funny to see how the conversations and point of views on PP and IW are drastically different and completely opposite between the 2. lol.
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107 celestialorigin
May 14, 2010 at 6:58 PM
@mookie, momosan & ockoala samatachi
I'm home!!! to discover my kitchen has turned into the bugs' heaven, yikes! On top of that, somehow a whole canister of sesame seeds had been spilled out and my pantry is a total mess and now I have sesame seeds covering most of the kitchen floor. So foe now, I'm in denial of all that and all the business e-mail I've been neglecting for past 36 hours( I was busy packing with all the extra stuff I bought there, ended up shipping a parcel) Anyway, I just watched yankeekun4 now instead of CU14 I've been dying to watch ever since I'd left Japan 20 some hours ago,solely tempted by your comments. And it was worth it,I was laughing out loud within 2 minutes into watching. They are all so cutely overplaying their charactors. Narumiya, for sure doesn't look like a high schooler, yet, somehow, you can go along with it.
I'd better get to CU now and then all the PT I missed and OML15, may be PP as well? I don't know... I haven't slept for I don't know how long... Coming back from Asia is always so hard.. Anyway, thank you for keep me up to date with dorama worlds while I was there.
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108 eiko
May 14, 2010 at 7:04 PM
@ 99 supah
hey girl......at least i don't have to go peeking into some x-rated box for a sighhhh!!! LOL LOL.....
And at DW.....waaaay to go FIGHTING!!!!! ahjumma gonna fight back now and not let go of her man!!!! he's been telling her to keep walking towards him and they can fight together....if they can't climb the wall together they'll bust through it!!!! how chivalrous is that? man, that Lee Chang-hoon is one fine looking ahjusshi!!!!! I'll let you hang on to Yoon and will give up PSH for LCH....deal? yummmm.....besides, I AM over 21, you know!
hehehehehe.....
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109 ockoala
May 14, 2010 at 7:08 PM
welcome home, celestialorigin!
you asked last time how the weather was in LA, I didn't want to tell you it was gorgeous, in case you missed it even more! you watched Yankee-kun 4 live? Sweet!
I'll let you and mookie omomomo CU13-14. :-)
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110 A.
May 14, 2010 at 7:13 PM
Man, I completely forgot about Jdoramas. And you guys reminded me. I was only planning on watching Sunao (the Eriko Kitagawa drama), but now you guys are enticing me to watch Yankeekun... which I also discovered has Hongo Kanata! Such a cutie. And yet older than me (except I could probably pass as his older sister, seriously, since he looks so young). But, I've always loved Narimiya Hiroki... oh so tempting!! But after I finish with finals... Damn.
What is "CU", though?
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111 v
May 14, 2010 at 7:22 PM
@A.
CU=Cinderella's Unni = Cinderella's Sister = CS :)
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112 A.
May 14, 2010 at 7:25 PM
@ v
Thanks, I was wondering what it was. LOL. It's because I'm used to seeing CS. LOL. Hah.
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113 down under
May 14, 2010 at 7:31 PM
been watching all kd with chinese sub.have no problem with it but like to repeat with english sub can anyone tell me where can I watch it. enjoyed OML just simply relaxing
and very impressed with SW acting skill. Also enjoyed PP, hoping IW and MHR will have good a ending. I think IW will use his superman coupon...
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114 serendipity
May 14, 2010 at 7:36 PM
Emerging gingerly from a work-week which may well go down in lore as my team's shittiest week evah. Anyways, interestingly, when I have zero emotional energy, what do I find myself watching in the few moments I can snatch for myself? Any guesses?
PT, of course! PP I gave up on long ago, CU requires too much of me. Also starting Yankee-kun and Otomen (thank you, OT sisters, both would have completely slipped my radar otherwise). It's amazing that Hiroki can do a convincing delinquent school-boy at his age; guess that boyish grin helps. Quite a turn after his "Honey and Clover" character (self-assured, Bohemian).
Off to comfort and steady myself with a spot of shopping. And, yes, I will pop into the DVD shop and yes I will look for Pride -- have to watch that in full HD glory.
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115 down under
May 14, 2010 at 7:45 PM
OML is relaxing to watch and very impressed with SW acting skill
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116 amg01
May 14, 2010 at 7:54 PM
I started to rewatched the J-Dorama "Orange Days" I think this is my all time favorite j-drama if you guys have never seen it you are missing a 'TRUE GEM" of Japanese drama, with
Satoshi Tsumabuki, and Kou Shibasaki, who also were the main leads in the movie "DORORO"
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117 LeMahMah
May 14, 2010 at 7:55 PM
WOw! I first started being devoted for the kdrama translations but now I seem to be coming back also for the Music! Thanks JB! YOu've opened my eyes & ears to a fun and funky selection of music.....and for a girl stuck in the boonies in the mountains its been a faBuLously funky musical ride! Have a good weekend all!
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118 balladish510
May 14, 2010 at 8:00 PM
@v: not really
I believe IW lovers outnumber IW haters
viikii, soompi, even in DB there are more IW supporters but I guess, each according to his own.
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119 doozy
May 14, 2010 at 8:12 PM
@ lb_tmi
Congrats on your new eyes! How was the procedure? Like what you expected?
@ Jdoramas expert
Can you help me find the subtitles to Lunch Queen? I've heard good things about this show and want to check it out and also because it has that cute dude from "Orange Days".... which brings me to...
@ Amg1
I've seen "Orange Days." It was my first J-dorama many moons ago. And if I remember correctly, it was a good show... short and sweet.
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120 lovedramas
May 14, 2010 at 8:29 PM
I really need to watch PT's episodes this week after reading JB's fantastic recap.
I was on part vacation this week so I did get to see ep 1 of TnK. Sigh... I love KT a lot - his roles already really move me for some reason, and I love his characters. My favorite was Pride. I watched that one over and over and even a ton of asiandramas (kdramas, jdramas, and twdramas before & after)... this one is still one of my all-time favorites. So, I also liked Mr Brain, but TnK... well, I knew from the start that having LCL in the series was only going to be a hinderance. I don't think she can act well much less act in japanese (hosting, modeling - yes, but acting - heck no). Yeah, I would say some scenes were "awkward!!!" But I still like KT even though he sleptwalk through the mess in Shanghai - so I'll still watch the entire series. I do have a feeling that he will end up with Shinohara's character. I think that would make the most sense.
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121 A.
May 14, 2010 at 8:33 PM
@ Orange Days
One of my favorite Jdoramas hands down. And I absolutely adore Tsumabuki Satoshi. Sad that he's not in as many Jdoramas... He was in Tenchijin but I've tried but just can't stick through Japanese taiga dramas...
He's so cute!! And a great actor... sigh. Tsumabuki Satoshi is seriously like one of my favorite Japanese actors. Even though I really haven't seen a lot of his stuff. Orange Days, though, definitely one of the best dramas I've seen before.
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122 momosan
May 14, 2010 at 8:44 PM
@19 doozy
Chinese subs I can get you for Lunch Queen - they are on d-addicts.
English....I want to say that they are available at Sars-fansubs in the downloads section or on IRC.
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123 momosan
May 14, 2010 at 8:58 PM
@7 celestialorigin
Welcome home! And yikes! I'd flip if that was my pantry! And then I'd sail right up DeNial and watch some dramas. 8-)
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124 v
May 14, 2010 at 8:59 PM
phew... i just woke up in the middle of the night... and the first thing that popped into my head was Bonamana... lol.. to be thruthful, i think i like sorry sorry better but i am much more hyped about bonamana than sorry sorry.. why? no idea.
@balladish510
haha.. well, i do know that IW lovers are on DB since i am one myself... what i mean is that IW haters are much more outspoken here than anywhere else where they kinda gave up talking.. and opposite that is IW lovers who kinda gave up commenting about that on OT here.. lol
@doozy
well, you can find Lunch queen with subs either on silentregrets.com or like momosan said, on sars-fansubs.com
silentregrets.com seems to be down at the moment so here's the direct link:http://www.megaupload.com/?f=6OUHNFC4
credits:silentregrets
enjoy the drama! it's a great one!
now, i'm going back to sleep.... zzz. don't know why i keep waking up... maybe my brain is telling me to catch up on PP RIGHT NOW instead of waiting for tomorrow.. lol.
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125 eiko
May 14, 2010 at 9:01 PM
@ 21 A.
Orange Days.....that's where I've seen that face before Tenchijin!!!! :-)
Thanks!!!
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126 cantique
May 14, 2010 at 9:40 PM
I LOVE PP... I start to Love CS first, but end up fall in in love with PP, lol
In The beginning, I really underestimated PP.. I Started to watch this drama just for Kim So Yeon Sake.. But after watched this series until ep 13-14, I'm Hooked... I love in all aspects of this drama and I'm feel sad it will be end soon... :(
@v and balladish510
count me into IW Lovers... Actually, I'm glad there are two different sides opinion according to IW's characters...that's mean his char is so unique and not just one dimensional character..
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127 mookie
May 14, 2010 at 10:23 PM
@momosan,
haha I hope your bud's highschooler loves it as much as we do! :) I'm looping that certain shoujo fantasy scene in ep2 and I just noticed that sparkling little butterfly on yankeekun's hair.. SO MUCH ADORABLENESS! <333
I'm also lining up lala pipo for a girl's nite tmr and I finally got my hands on No Regret of SEXYBASTARD. ummm so it's full on BL, huh?!
I'm also watching an ep of Keishicho Shissonin Sosaka, it's solid and I have a tiny crush on Sawamura Ikki since Hataraki Man (also in Orange Days), and he seriously looks like my first crush HAHA
I think it's safe to say Orange Days is a general favorite. I've yet to meet anyone who dislike it. (anyone in OT?!)
@celestialorigin-san
I think I'm to the point that I'll take tiny baby steps of OTP shippery and heck those heart tearing bound for ANY ep of CU.. haha I'm kinda immune to it. But at least that forest scene is sooo sooo good till maybe shortly before the end scene, huh?
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128 A.
May 14, 2010 at 10:53 PM
Okay to those who are still awake, question:
Do you guys have any recommendations for eye cream? I seriously need to get rid of these dark eye circles. I used to NEVER get them. But I guess this high stress period plus only 7 hours of sleep (usually I get at least 8) is getting to me... I prefer quality over expensiveness. Although, good quality and cheapness would be good, too... LOL.
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129 amg01
May 14, 2010 at 11:19 PM
For all the "Oh MY Lady"
Fans who can play music here is the "Chord Chart" That I made of Choi Siwon’s rendition of the OST song “못났죠” (Aren’t I a fool).
Jo Seung Wook (조성욱) - 못났죠
Intro Fmaj7 Emin7 add2
Fmaj7 / Emin7 add2
Fmaj7 / Emin 7 add2
Dmin 7 / G
Cmaj 7 / C#/C7 ( or A7)
Fmaj7 / Dmin7 / Gsus / G7
C2 / Fmaj / Dmin7 / Gsus G7
Bb/C7 / A7 / Dmin7/ Fmin7
Dmin7 / G / C2 / A7
Dmin7 / G / C2.
Jo Seung Wook (조성욱) - 못났죠
cham motnan sarami nayo
apeun geudael motbwatjyo
dwineutge geudael aljyo..wae nan
haruharu geudael ango algo saratjiman
mami manhi jichyeonnayo
hanbal dagagamyeon deo datyeoganeun uri
na sorieobsi uljyo..
na nunchieobsi utjyo..
geudaedwieseo gajima gajima
geu mareul samkyeonaejyo..
cham geudaen areumdapjyo..
cham geudael saranghaetjyo..
ichyeojindangeon geojitmal geojitmal
geojitmal ineyo..
jebal gajima gajima
dorawa dol..awa..
enjoy. If you guys have any questions concerning the chords please let me know!!!! : O }
P.S This is the short Version!!!
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130 cingdoc
May 15, 2010 at 12:45 AM
@28 A.
I'm not sure how old you are,but this old ahjumma's been using Estee Lauder Advanced Night Repair Eye Recovery Complex for the last 15+ yrs...it works for me ;)
Using cool packs/cucumber slices work for others,too ;)
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131 amg01
May 15, 2010 at 1:19 AM
Listening to the "Almighty Barry White the "Man responsible for at least 25% of all births in the 70's in the USA".
YAY YAY Baby!!!!!!!!!
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132 kaleris
May 15, 2010 at 1:47 AM
After watching PT 14... I can safely say that SYJ is one of the most - if not THE MOST - talented actors out there.
I mean, wow. I didn't know how she would deal with the scene that we knew was coming... but it was totally believable and heartbreaking...
All I can say is... WOOWWWWW...
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133 amg01
May 15, 2010 at 1:48 AM
@eiko, do you remember this song?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPHmsEoLsL0
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134 eiko
May 15, 2010 at 1:52 AM
@ 31 Amg1
Yeah...Barry White!!!! Man....you have quite a repertoire!
I wish I had some Earth Wind and Fire music.....I should go to the aloha stadium swap meet and check out the stalls where they have all kinds of cds!
Enjoy the weekend!!!
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135 amg01
May 15, 2010 at 1:55 AM
@mastille, I agree with you,
SYJ is probably the most talented actress around, like I said before LMH is an OK actor the reason that his acting looks so good in PT is because SYJ has provided such a solid foundation for his acting that both actors have been elevated to a higher plane, SYJ is my Second favorite Korean Actress!!!! Love her Work!!!!!
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136 eiko
May 15, 2010 at 1:57 AM
@ Amg1
Oh gosh....you had to go and post that one!!!!! That one brings back many, many memories!!!!! I'm gonna have to put that in favs so I can listen to it over and over. I'll tell you.........well, I won't! :-)
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137 eiko
May 15, 2010 at 2:01 AM
@ Amg1
Just posted that song to my facebook page! LOVE IT!!!!!
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138 amg01
May 15, 2010 at 2:43 AM
@eiko, I find so mind blowing the fact that music plays such an important part in our Psyche, it resembles that way the brain relates to "Taste and Smell" our brain can remember thousands of flavors and smells. Do you remember the smell of your Grandmothers Cooking? I bet if you think about it you can recall the smell of some dishes that she made for you when you were younger. The same is with music like the song that reminds you of your first true love. One of the things that I notice is that all human have their own particular "Smell", I bet you can distinguish the different smell of your two sons. It is wild how we try to disguise the natural odor that the human body gives and I am not talking about BO, but in all honesty I miss my mothers smell and also the woman that I have love the most in this life besides my daughter. I am fascinated about how the human brain works!!!!!
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139 tinatot
May 15, 2010 at 2:49 AM
i just finished watching PASTA... and it was... uhm.. fluffy. hahaha. if to describe it in one world... FLUFF... lol. fluff all the way... hahaha... its a light drama that wont go into the deeper conflicts that could have happen if it was not a romcom (like having President become the SILENT CACTUS KILLER who will fight for his three year hidden love for maknae... or have LITTLE MISS GINSENG PASTA DESTROYER become the villain that everyone would hate...) but comon who would hate such a lovely face that is very considerate and such a weakling-when-it-comes-to-chep even though she's an arrogant little missy? hehe.
but all in all... i love it... i've always wanted a love story that is so loyal from start till end. though i was quite unsure of the ending... hahaha... i kind of wanted to know yoo kyung's new stove position... LOL.
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140 Missjb
May 15, 2010 at 3:18 AM
I have wacthed PP ep 13...and a clock scene is the most touching scene in this eps IMO.. This scene reminds me alot of one scene in all about eve drama, which kim seo yeon is in it, too. Remember video tape scene in all about eve? After woo jin died, Young Mi watched tape recorder who has been given to her. that tape has recorded alot of memories about both of them and woo jin confession about him want to marry YM. Young Mie cried. Her tears suddenly fall. She feel really sorry towards woo jin, but it,s too late...God when i watched clock scene, suddenly that scene in AAE comes to mind, and suddenly i cried! I wonder if scriptwriter a fan of AAE, too lol
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141 supah
May 15, 2010 at 3:48 AM
@balladish510
I loved your observations abut HR on the previous page. I personally called it the bullsh-t-filter, by which she was able to pick out people's sincerity, reading them differently to how we were seeing/reading them.
Like when SJ would be physically or verbally having to peel her off him and was keeping a fair distance from her - she still read him differently. When IW asked why she liked SJ so much he replied ''because he's like a big, protective, shady tree''. (Not exactly romantic, but still a major compliment to SJ's character.)
And true enough, even without the evidence in ep3, he had been (secretly) pretty protective of her, sticking his neck out for her, asking the chief to let her off, mentoring her, silently campaigning for her.
I guess at first it was because she was a familiar face to him, she had his Eun-ji's face, which also understandably freaked him out.
Later she earned his respect and affections (and the solemn promise that she had one opportunity to call on him, no matter what day, no matter what time, and he would come to her - awww!).
Not to mention IW, the guy who was always there when she needed him was in fact deceiving her and her own parents had backstabbed her, SJ was the only honest person around, whom she could trust.
I got the impression HR never did anything without rhyme or reason (even the way she dresses!) and when she finally earned a place by Prosecutor Yoon's side (Prosecutor Yoooooon!!) you knew she'd done VERY well for herself. Even if it wasn't in the romantic sense, because a man like him is always handy to have around, especially if you're the absent-minded sort and your dad's MST and your close friend/neighbour (stalker) is the super sharp and clever IW.
(And it makes more sense if it wasn't a romantic union between Se-Ri because it's obvious he's so not over his wife yet-- shame as there was so much spark.)
This is one of the areas where the drama is lacking in consistency, I understand the way she's reading IW's true love is the same way she read SJ's protectiveness. But what happened to SJ, now? Why did they write off his character? If ever she needed his services she needs them now, were all her exertions for nothing? Does that mean all her efforts for IW will one day in the future mean nothing too?
And where is this girl's pride/dignity? What happened to the ''Fly High'' Hye-ri?
Love doesn't have to mean instant forgiveness, she could have gone about it in so many ways, I find the In-Hye relationship too undermining of females and masochistic.
I would rather not remember KSY playing a role as stupid as it is now, it started off so clever but then it just lost me.
@janna
Nooo! HR needs the boombox blasting SHINee's Fly High, it's her song, they sang it for her not JS. JS should get her own theme song.
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142 janna
May 15, 2010 at 4:39 AM
So the rumor is the next show to take over the monday golden timeslot (after TnK) might be starring Matsumoto Jun and Takeuchi Yuko. Because Flash Forward sucked and got canned, I guess Yuko decided to go back home. We should get her another role, because the sentiment was that her character was liked. They probably told her that it was "Lost 2", but seriously I could predict that ship sinking from the begining. Please don't hate us Yuko.
@supah: We should all have the ability to fly high and make our dreams come true. I hope it plays out the last episode. FLYYYYYY H-
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143 ivy
May 15, 2010 at 5:11 AM
@mastille: oh ya, totally agree about Son Ye Jin. Loved her acting especially in the last scene of episode 14. totally moving and devastating. that's why she's one of my favorite k-actresses.
And qns, is anyone else bugged by Moon Geun Young's drunk scenes in CS? I find her acting rather forced and unbelievable whenever does those scenes. Is it because she can hold her liquor too well, that she hasn't really gotten dead drunk before?
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144 deannadsc
May 15, 2010 at 9:18 AM
balladish510 -
you've totally nailed it!!! I agree w/ each & every word..& explained each point quite adequately!!! I really don't mind the negative comments & harsh critiques of the anti-INHYE & anti-PP writer ...but I personally think otherwise & feel I have to make a stand!!! PP is, in my humble opinion...one of the best dramas this year, the main leads are exemplary good, the writing is tight & I LOVE IT TO BITS...no matter what anybody else says!!!
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145 doozy
May 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM
@ momosan and v
Thanks so much you guys!!!
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146 mookie
May 15, 2010 at 9:36 AM
@ivy: no I was not bugged by MGY's drunk scenes at all. MGY and bugging just will never go in any sentence of mine.
Everybody has a diff 'drunk' face and a myriad of bizarro behaviors. and I actually find it befitting for her EJ to be cute and a bit giggling and pathetically hilarious when drunk now.... bear in mind in an earlier drunk scene, she's not the same... that one is much more restrained and controlled, now there's a hidden relief in her EJ that at least she has a confirmation KH loves her, love comes in diff forms and realization, to her, just the comfort of a firm acknowledgment that there's a letter, he still loves her..is enough for now and there's a hidden bit of giddiness in EJ, and w/ that KH letter exchange and their rendezvous by the wall that a lot of her confusion was lifted and she's more in touch and honest w/ her own feelings now as well, all that she cant possibly expressed in the midst of all the grievance and indebtment, it's only when she's drunk, her inhibition is at her lowest and we got to see a peeled off EJ
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147 balladish510
May 15, 2010 at 9:47 AM
You should remember SJ is the one that abandons her/ fails to notice the potential in MHR, not IW. He constantly tells her to quit and she is so frustrated that she has to prove for him and everybody that she is not just any dumb, clueless and irresponsible girl. The scene when they eating sushi and HR resisting crying out loud, one of the colleagues (JS if I'm not mistaken) said that "what are you talking about? SJ is the first one that cannot stand/ rejects her). If anyone who has trust in her thoroughly, that's IW. You can argue that he has ulterior motives but the fact that he is patient, determined and diligent in encouraging her from the very first day signify that he believes she can and will give her best, despite all her current behavioral and attitude indicators say otherwise. Obviously, that is just how many people who sympathize with IW interpret. Plus, to say that he is pure evil and psychopath is non-sensical. We can clearly see that his genuine consideration toward her and his will to revenge intertwine with one another; as the story progresses, we don't know where one starts and the other ends. He is confused with his feelings also. The man has conscience. You have to give him that.
On the contrary, I think HR handles her dignity well enough though it might seem rushed to some of you. Given her relentless and stubborn characteristics, I find it believable, the fact that she is quick to forgive IW. Firstly, she has become a thoughtful prosecutor with a strong sense of justice. She has the fortunateness of a happy and wealthy family with members who support and love her unconditionally. She tries to see the world through IW's lens of view and realizes it must be very painful, his process of loosing his parentS and growing up without them feeling his family being wronged all along (now remember many previous episodes, she feels relieved that nobody has been wrongly accused in her hands-> another life experience that later governs her mindset). She shows compassion when he tells her his story, not just standing there grinding her teeth in disdain and arrogance even though she has every reason to do so; it shows her maturity. She has a big heart and that fact alone makes her a complementing part to IW- the man who firmly views that love is a luxury in life.
Secondly, she is true to her emotions. That is her biggest virtue. She acts in accordance to her heart, she "feels" that he says one thing but means another. She pursuits, holds on to a set goal till the end and she gets it- his sincere apology. I myself never think that HR believes they CAN be together. Not all all. She chooses to confront with him so she can MOVE ON "Just say you are sorry, so I will be able to live again". She has predetermined beforehand that he is someone she cannot love and they cannot be together (her conversation with JS when HR seeking JS's advices). She loves him and does not want this love to end prematurely before confirming that he feels the same for her too, so she takes the risk of making the first step, crossing the boundary IW has drawn and tearing down his false pretenses, making this man courageously face his feelings for her. But right after the next day, they pass across each other like mere acquaintances since she knows they must stop, before being dipped too deeply in something called love.
About J, I never find him a threatening love rival to IW. He is too passive, he never shows his affection to HR. Plus, I always view them as just mere crushes, she is never really comfortable and herself around him. With IW, she is more real, more spontaneous...
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May 15, 2010 at 9:48 AM
woohoo!! Suju rocked their Music Core stage... why am I starting all my comments with Suju... it's not intentional. really. but i think i need some time before my hype calms down.. and i'm not even an ELF per se.
@doozie
ur welcome!! lots of candy eye in that drama.. and takeuchi is adorable... u'll drool for omelets real bad in that drama. and for the brothers.. altho my fav pairing is with the bro played by satoshi tsumaboki.. but Pi is quite cute in it too! he was still not trying to act like im-too-cool-for-u guy.
@balladish510
u go girl!! IW all the way!! and HR all the way to the sky!! fligh high!!
anyways, back to dramas...
for TW dramas: down with love is tomorrow.. so i'm looking forward to that. and so is ps man
for J dramas: TnK.. don't really know if i would watch ep 2.. probably yes for the sake of the actors but really.. if it's like ep1, i think ill give up on this drama. at least until it's totally finished so that i can use the FF button.
and caught up on ep 4 of Y-k&M-c... hihi.. like this drama. it's a FUN watch
and finally K-dramas:coffee house soon! and giant! woohoo
SPOILER
for PT... son ye jin last scene was GOOD... about the only time i'm truly impressed with her.. lmh is still hot. i don't hate chang ryul but i swear, in hee is seriously grating on my nerves big time.. if she ever finds a true friend, that'll be a miracle. that girl has no heart. unlike do bin.. can the poor man be more sweet? but overall, i'm glad the drama is ending next week.. the extension might lead to the drama's destruction
for CS: as always, stellar acting from anybody and everybody.. especially with Kang-sook.. OMG, she has a conscience, and a heart.. she's so much like her daughter and yet different too. i love the interaction between EJ and HS and EJ's shell finally cracked, albeit just for a while... HS is becoming a better person! yay!
KH... no comment.
and finally for PP... (CANT' BELIEVE it's ending next week.. it's getting SO good. i'm going to have withdrawal syndrome big time.. ) my fav so far!! it's so funny how everybody had their say on this but look like i have to disagree big time with SJ shippers here... lol. maybe it'll be better if you don't read this because it's pretty much the opposite of your opinions. XD and supah, maybe you made the right decision to stop watching this, cuz it's heaven for IWers right now. and as an aside, i noticed yoonie is back in the lead men section at viikii.. lol
ok, so here's my take of the episodes. ok, i LOVE KSY!!!! she's a freaking great actress and basically stole the spotlight for ep 13.. gosh, i love her.. (um, her acting i mean). MHR has to be one of the best female characters ever!! she might be smart and newly mature and all but she's also vulnerable.. and well, she has the experience of romance of a teenager and i love it that KSY portrayed MHRs reaction as such, especially since her love for IW is pretty much her first "real" love (or so i assume cuz i like that way.. xp). is she too quick to forgive.. well, no. cuz ok, so everybody loved ep 13 because of the kiss (and dang... what a kiss.. a real, clumsily sincere one!!) but there was so much more to that ep than that.. the clock scene is my favorite.. it was so touching and heartwrenching and beautiful.. love the lines. you see IW revealing his real feelings and KSY acting is freaking great!! so is her confrontation with IW. LOVE their interaction!! and i love how they made this drama more focused on HR... they could have made this drama about IW's story, starting with IW's childhood story and then his development into an adult, then his plan for revenge (and maybe that take would have led to more understanding for him), and his love for HR being an obstacle... that would totally have worked too! instead, they chose to start with comical mood and focus on HR and I am so glad they did!! but wow, IW's story is like a drama itself was my point. lol.
now, for ep 14, i would have to say that MST is awesome in it!!! not as a character but as an actor... i really felt for him and he gained some points in my book for showing that despite all that he did (and i'm still not sure what he did... did he kill for real??? or he's just taking the blame for someone.. or that he didn't kill but feels like he did because he caused it?), that the man still has a heart and cares for his daughter.. i think even IW has softened to see that side of him.
but y, IW, y do u have to accept to let go of HR. ok, so i know ur promise with ur father to clear his name is like the world to u but what about ur love with HR?? huh?? but at least, we've got to see IW smile in this ep for once... gosh, the picture-taking scene is SO CUTE!!! HR=amateur stalker.. lol. she's learning.. but the elevator scene is so heartbreaking.. with HR wanting to hold his hand but not doing it and IW shedding a tear as the door closes.. PSH and KSY are such great actors that i feel like a broken record..
and AJ is so cute!! especially her reaction to Jenny is exactly like her daughter's. and treating IW to soup like her son-in-law... haha.
as for JS and SJ=like i said from the beginning, great compatible couple. Jenny, poor girl but ur not going to get IW..
like it that HR is working hard to find out what really happened but there are way too many speculations going on about how the ending might be that i'm getting a headache reading pages of that. i still can't process the fact that it's ending next week since it's gotten so good!! well, at least the ratings for ep 14 went up by a lot!! for once, ratings are reflecting the drama's improvement!! ^^. hope it'll keep up next week too.
ok, i'm done with my rant and now am off for another round of Suju.. followed by PP..
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149 eiko
May 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM
@ Amg1
Aloha Kakahiaka! I see you had some special moments last night and I sensed it by your Barry White selections! As soon as I heard his Love's Theme it triggered some feelings and memories that made me feel very sentimental and teary. It made me smile too.....I was on the phone with a friend for about an hour before I saw your link and we had been talking about feelings, etc. and she was sharing some memories that brought tears.
I remember when I was a kid and had a conversation with an uncle about the "mind" and I told him it was a very powerful tool....the only recollection I have of that is he didn't agree. Maybe I pushed it aside because I've been trying to recall why he said that and I can't.
Yep....smell/odor/ can trigger some fascinating "stuff" from the memory bank...stuff you never thought would surface. And the smell of grandmothers and grandfathers....I have to smile because it was that "old" people smell! :-) Yeah...children have that certain odor....what fun to recall those times of hugs and kisses and scent.
And the smell of someone I cared about.... smiling :-)
Thanks for touching on some very "real" feelings....and you're right....music plays a very important role in our psyche.
I checked my facebook and some people all ready responded to Barry White! Cool....really cool!
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150 v
May 15, 2010 at 10:06 AM
more of me... sorry for the long comments but as i've been off my computer for so long being out of town and all... i'm now "making up" lol.
@balladish510
i agree with you about HR not losing her dignity. she is still the MHR that i loved from the beginning. she still has a big heart that can find compassion to share with others' situation.. she still seeks for the truth and justice and she has always been true to herself and to others, albeit being too insensitively and brutally so. is she too quick to forgive.. well, no. cuz she sees the pain IW went through with her heart and could see that she would have done the same. all he wants is to clear his father's name. he did admit that it was his pride or whatever word he used that made him involve HR in this when he found out she was a prosecutor. but really, MST deception has ruined his family so is it really surprising that he has a personal feeling about him seeking for justice. despite his godlike smile, he's a human u know? and cuz HR is the daughter, she would be much more committed and personally interested to uncover the truth. and HR would have suffered anyways if he hadn't used her to unveil MST's deception cuz the deception still holds true no matter who discovers it. all HR did is her job as a prosecutor, which she does extremely well. she could have chosen to ignore this cuz MST's her father but she didn't. has she lost dignity? no.. rather, she is being brave to accept and acknowledge her feelings for what they are and confront IW to make him recognize his, like she always has done, with SJ when she confronted him in front of her house and with everyone else too. trying to keep face by pretending otherwise is doom and stupid in love. u don't do that (cough.. JS).
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