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@248 langdon813 @250 cingdoc

Awww! Sounds like a great plan :D If I'm around can I come?

I should just give up on working and go to bed and start early!? tomorrow...

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@ celestialorigin

But of course, please do come!! This will be such a cool trip for me! :-D

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Inappropriate Crush On Much Younger Men? Ahh, that sounds much more on target than what I had. Is it so sad that is so right on? Oh, whatever, I don't care anymore. I'll be a proud member of the ICOMYM!

@249 celestialorigin
I am planning to watch Code Blue 2. Saw Code Blue 1 and as medical drama goes I didn't like it as much as I liked Iryu Team Medical Dragon. Still, I am curious enough and being a member of ICOMYM I will watch it.

@242 ockoala
Not sure if anyone else would agree with me on this, but if you want to see where the Yamapi attraction is I would start with Kurosagi I don't think my ICOMYM started with Yamapi until Kurosagi.

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Welcome back to kdramaland, cingdoc! And it's great that your mom is doing fine and well.

I go back to HKG several times a year for work (as well as China and Taiwan). There's this part of me who yearns for perhaps living in HK a bit but I think I just love more the clean air, green and spacious suburbia where I'm. Over these years of business travel, surprisingly, I fall in love with Taiwan. Going there for a full island travel is on my agenda.

Unwittingly, I'm now splitting myself between four dramas: Pasta, WUAS, Assorted Gems and Dear Heaven. More than a full week commitment especially when DH has 85 episodes!!

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welcome back, cingdoc!!!

man.. i so wish i was still on track to do the LA thing.. i'd have LOVED to meet the socal sisters. :( thoroughly depressed now. well, at least once i go back to school and finish, i'll have more money to be able to travel... i'll just keep telling myself that.. :D

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idk if anyone saw my earlier post.. so i'm just gonna repost and ask, cuz i really really value all of your opinions... so here goes:

any tech savvy ppl got recommendations for specs/brands for a laptop? i’ll be needing one in the next 3-4 months in preparation for going back to school. my desktop at home is pretty decent considering it’s 4 yrs old, but looking to go wireless anyway.. thanks, in advance.

(i should add that i'm leaning towards spending the extra money on a macbook, but know NOTHING about macs, but open to almost anything!)

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Welcome back cingdoc!! Glad to hear your Cathay Pacific flight was a better one! being a stranger's headrest is never fun!

In other happy news - i got my tv yesterday and got it all set up and connected to all the right gadgets. ok really, the only gadget i have is my region free dvd player [for now]. my brother is buying me the WD HD Media converter for my birthday, so i'll be in kdrama heaven in no time! First thing i popped into my wonderful region free player was the Big Bang Big Show 2009 dvd [region 3] that i specifically bought in korea anticipating that i would buy a tv and dvd player to go along with that ha! I almost passed out when I watched MY TABI do his solo performance in HD. i now firmly believe that he should only be seen either in HD or in person. nothing else does him justice. all i need in my room now is a mini fridge and a hot plate and the transformation from room to hermit cave will be complete. :P

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@ twin..

i need your brother. mine only asks me for money :( and he's 8 yrs older than me. :(

oh! and when you have your hot plate, you can cook ramen and eat off the lid.. your hermit cave will be a mini kdrama home.. maybe you should get rid of the bed and just sleep on a rollout mat that you can fold up and hide in the closet. :D

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@256 lb_tmi

Waves at you from Mac land.
Find out if there is some specific program you need to run for school. So, for instance if you need to run AutoCad or something then you need to spec out your machine to run that.

OTOH, a MacBook will cost you more up front, but less in the long run, as there is less to put on and maintain.

You can even put Windows on there if there IS some Windows specific program you need to run very occasionally (my sister does this).

Anyway, go into a BestBuy or something similar and test drive the keyboards and touch pad. No sense in getting a wicked computer with a keyboard that you hate.

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@ momosan

i tried the bestbuy thing.. but because i live in the middle of NOWHERE! our best buy doesn't carry macs.. they told me i'd have to order it online if i wanted to buy one from them. so nothing to try out.. :( tho i did look at the other laptops that were there, by looks and feel alone, i liked the sony vaio more than the others..

i'll call the school back to see if there are any programs that i may need.. and if they have any deals w/ any particular brand/store to optimize my discounts. i know my 4 yr college did.. so maybe this one will too. thanks!

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@lb_tmi

My vote is for a mac if you have the money. Ease of use, wireless connection is a snap and UI is great plus the intangible coolness factor.

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My head is spinning from all the twins.How many do we have on this board? Who is whose twin again?

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@nycgrl

what is UI? you are speaking to a very technology challenged person.. i can log on and find some kdramas to watch, and that's about it. well, i have learned a few other things too.. like posting on db, ripping MVs w/ ICOMYM targets.. you know, the important stuff.

oh! another ? what's the difference between a macbook and a macbook pro?

lovenyc52 is my twin. ockoala and mookie are twins too.. see? DB, land of finding your long lost twin and other family members!

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@260 lb_tmi

If you are going to have to order anyway, order online via Apple's education store (and use a cash back site like ebates or cashbaq to get a bit of a rebate). That'll save you a few bucks.

The MacBook is the entry level laptop. It's in a white plastic case, with a 13" screen, and no FireWire port (this is geeky, but to me it was important). It comes with 2GB memory standard, and is smaller and lighter than the Pro

The Pro comes in 3 sizes, 13", 15" and 17". The 13 is essentially the same as the MacBook, but in an aluminum body and with a FireWire port and a slightly smaller hard drive.

From there you just go up in screen size, hard drive size and price (ok the processor speed goes up as well, but at this level it doesn't make much difference)

They all come with Airport cards to talk to wireless networks.
And to a certain extent at this point it's a matter of which screen size and drive size you like. I just got another 15" MacBook, because MacBook 1 is going off to school with my niece (long story in that her family's Mac has to stay home for my sister)

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Sorry UI is user interface.

Macbook pro is more expensive, tend to have a larger screen size and geared towards professionals who do a lot of graphic work. I have the pro though I don't do graphic work.

If your a student and not going to be doing lots of graphic work, I'd go with macbook since its cheaper and supposedly have a longer battery life.

BTW I just saw some clips of the SMA (seoul music awards). Can someone explain what the purpose of these awards are suppose to be since it seems everyone from SM won and there was no YG participation or presence? Also noticed the reverse at the MMA (no SM presence). Is this like the SBS, MBC and KBS award show and SM actually owns the SMA show? The whole "award" part as being any true representation of being the best seems quite suspect if you ask me.

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even though I must be one of thge most aged ICOMYM members, I just had to say I love the song of the day for this open thread. I can't even get past it to see what else this group does.

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@momosan and nycgrl

why would having a firewire port be needed? i guess the real question is, what is a firewire port?

and i'm thinking that i'd go w/ the Pro because i don't wanna be carrying around plastic.. i'd prefer the aluminum... even if it's heavier.. more sturdy sounding to me. and prolly do the 15".. the 13" just seems like it'd be too small of a screen.

on browsing the apple store online, the battery seems to be the same for both models.. at up to 7 hrs. where as the best i found at bestbuy was up to 4 hrs. seeing as i'd prolly be at school all day, i'd need a longer battery life.

ok, i'm gonna be more annoying... if i get a macbook pro, will i be able to hook it up to my 52" HD TV and stream videos on my tv? this is for when i'm NOT at school. heehee..

i really appreciate the info.. you gals are awesome!! thanks so much!

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Firewire is like a USB connector used for lots of datatransfer between other devices (another computer, camcorder etc). I think I only used it once transferring data from old computer to another but Momosan might have more examples of it's practical use.

Believe me its not going to be 7 hours unless you have the screen on dim and have it opened and not doing anything. I'm not sure how they calculate battery life since its not what they advertise. My macbook pro which I bought in april/june gets about 2.5 hours while I'm actively using it.

"ok, i’m gonna be more annoying… if i get a macbook pro, will i be able to hook it up to my 52″ HD TV and stream videos on my tv? this is for when i’m NOT at school. heehee.."

This is for a bigger mac sage than myself to answer but my understanding is yes given the right TV and adpaters but having never done it myself I can't tell you how easy it is or what the video quality is like. I myself am considering buying an Apple TV to do just that.

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@266 lb_tmi

so, like computers and devices need ways to talk to each other. the talking part is called "interface." there are two main kinds of plug 'n play interface - USB and Firewire

"Firewire" is an apple tech that is also known as ieee 1394 for non-apple devices. You might recognize the ieee 1394 with respect to certain devices like camcorders and so on. On most camcorders and/or cameras or whatever, or in your mess of wires that come along with your devices, you might see a wire that says it plugs into a ieee 1394 port.

Firewire is generally considered to be more advanced, because it can connect devices to one another (no computer needed) or connect to an apple computer or connect to non-apple computers that have a ieee 1394 port or an ieee 1394 card. If you have a computer that isn't an apple or a mac, then most likely, your computer will not have a ieee 1394 port, which means it doesn't have firewire interface capability until you buy a ieee 1394 card which you would insert into an open PCI slot on your computer's motherboard.

There are two speeds of Firewire, rated at 400 and 800. The 400 and 800 refer to mega bits per second.

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Now, USB is what most ppl know, since Apple only holds like a 5% share of the computer market.

USB stands for universal serial bus, and basically, you'll find a half-dozen of them on practically every computer. This makes it very popular, and so almost all portable devices like cameras, camcorders, extra devices like printers, faxes, even external harddisks, etc., will all have USB ports.

USB also has 2 speeds, USB 1.1 and USB 2.0, with the 2.0 being the one that you want, rated at about 480 mega bits per second.

The thing about USB is that it goes from device to host, rather than having the ability to go from device to device. So, with a USB cord, you will almost always have to have it be plugged into a computer (your host), or at the least, have it be connected to a device that can also actas a host.

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@lb_tmi

Well, I just bought Mac less than a week ago. And I should be saying I like it so far or something and I'm sure I will soon. Since I',m a bit tech challenged myself and short of time right now, I haven't been able to invest proper amount of time discovering what it can do. All I know is I can use Skype and surf internet so far. Finally all the files are transferred. Mobile me activated. Had 3 one on one sessions so far, but first two were spent on making sure right files be transferred so the last session was really the first one, and I finally discovered what you can do with 4 fingers! Now, I can't remember what can be done with 3 fingers. I should really go and watch the tutorial videos on line except I'm so pressed for time since I've spent just about 4 hours on WUAS and went to sleep way too early yesterday. Darn... I told myself not to visit DB till most of my preps are done, but here I am... It's an addiction. There's so much I'd love to learn about Mac. If you are here momosan, Can you quickly tell me what can 3 fingers do? Still, it seems like Mac is promising.

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@lb_tmi

ok, i’m gonna be more annoying… if i get a macbook pro, will i be able to hook it up to my 52″ HD TV and stream videos on my tv? this is for when i’m NOT at school. heehee..

The answer is yes (with a huge BUT), and for others, it will kind of depend (generally, yes as well, again with a big but).

Here's how it works. First of all, you need a TV that can "interface" with a computer.

Background, back in the day (and by this, I mean just a few years ago) in order for a TV to display what was on a computer, the TV generally has to be an LCD (rather than, say, an older generation plasma flat panel or even older tube television). The reason is that an LCD will have an interface port called a PC (VGA) input. It looks blue and has 9 holes. This PC input is also known as an RGB 9 pin interface, and it was standard in all computer monitors for a long time.

These days, this is no longer the case, as there are more inputs (on the TV) and more outputs (on the computer) that can allow inter-facing.

In your specific case, a new macbook pro comes with a mini display port, based off of the nVidia 9400M graphics card. This port can be adapted to connect to VGA and DVI connections. VGA was the standard, and DVI is the next step up in technology, newer and better and faster.

Some televisions have DVI inputs, but even if it doesn't, you can always adapt a DVI port to VGA (rgb 9 pin), so you can make it work. Also, most HD televisions have HDMI inputs, and you can buy adapters that adapt DVI to HDMI, so that you can connect your macbook pro to HDMI inputs.

HOWEVER.

This is the big however here. If you are connecting a macbook pro to a television, you will only be connecting video! this means that you will still get sound out of your macbook pro and not from the TV speakers! This means that if you connect your laptop to your tv, and you put your laptop next to the tv, and then walk back to your couch, then your sound will be coming from your tiny laptop speakers!

An HDMI cable is great because it can transmit both video and sound, BUT, just because an HDMI cable is connected doesn't mean you are going to get sound because a macbook pro's sound card is not integrated into the nVidia 9400M video card.

CERTAIN laptops, like the new Dell Studio (which is a kind of a piece of junk, really, I bought one for my parents to watch streaming online k-dramas by connecting this laptop to their HD flat screen tvs), are able to connect directly to TVs with an HDMI out, which then plugs into the HDMI input on the TV.

And you will get BOTH video and sound coming out on the TV.

Still, it is really buggy, and sometimes the sound fails altogether, and sometimes it only comes out of the laptop and not the TV, and I generally regard Dell laptops to be a mediocre brand at best. tech support is iffy as well, with all of it sub-contracted overseas and so language issues and timezone issues can make it extremely frustrating to try to talk with someone about trying to fix a buggy Studio laptop.

Hope that helps.

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wow. i'm learning so much about computers. if my toshiba starts to die on me again, i may have to get either a new pc or macbook. i reaaaalllly don't wanna go the macbook route just cuz im such a pc gal... but hearing such awesome things about the macbook is making me tilt a lil to the dark side lol.

@ twin

no. you don't want my brother either. i bought my own christmas present this year and told him what it was and made him wrap it. i actually had to specifically tell him he could not wrap it in a target bag, tape it, and write my name in permanent ink on said target bag. and i looked around my room last night thinking what i could move around in order to fit a fridge. i had to stop myself before i took the idea too seriously.

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@266 lb_tmi -

oh, just in case you are still awake, lemme try to summarize a bit:

To connect a computer to an HD television, you need 2 things.

1. a proper output port on the computer
2. a proper input port on the tv.

A proper output port on the computer / desktop / laptop could be as simple as a VGA out (otherwise known as a RGB 9 pin).

Most flat panel HD TVs (LCD's mostly) have a PC input, which accepts a VGA out.

Some newer computers have DVI out in addition to or in lieu of a VGA out. In that case, if your TV has a PC input, then all you need to do is buy an adapter that takes a DVI plug and turns it into a VGA plug for the PC input.

Some of the newest computers (and/or video cards that are inside the computer) come with HDMI outputs, which mean that you can connect directly to a monitor or a television that accepts HDMI inputs. In SOME, BUT NOT ALL of these computers, the HDMI output will transmit more than video but also sound, and so plugging an HDMI cord from the computer to the television will make video and sound appear on the television screen.

For example, on my personal desktop, I have a pretty decent video card that I bought after-market, mostly to play computer games.

This video card has dual VGA and DVI outputs, and so I can plug in my computer to a computer monitor and to a TV at the same time, with both connections being DVI. DVI to my computer monitor, and DVI-adapted-to-VGA for my television.

Sound on my desktop computer comes from a pretty decent sound card that I bought after-market, also mostly to play computer games. I connect my computer speaker system directly to the sound card.

Thus, if I wanted to connect my desktop computer to my television to watch k-dramas on my big screen, then I would need to lug out my computer speaker system as well, OR, connect my desktop sound card directly to my TV or directly to my home theatre system, in order to get sound. As you can see, it is possible, but would sort of be a gigantic pain in the ass because of all the wires I would have to connect in order to get good sound at the same time as video. If I didn't want to try to connect my computer audio directly to a television (which may not be easy), I would have to drag out my computer speakers and put them on the ground next to the television I guess, every time i wanted to watch something)

(Then again, if you don't mind listening to the audio from the laptop speakers blaring at 100% volume, while watching the k-drama on your big-screen tv, then this is less of an issue)

Having a Dell Studio laptop, however, sorta solves this problem because this particular laptop integrates its video and sound onto its motherboard before it goes out to the HDMI out. That means that both sound and video are carry-able by an HDMI cable to the TV, and voila, both sound and video on the television.

However, Dell Studio laptops are generally use pretty mediocre parts to make their video and sound cards and motherboards, and with their crappy customer service and buggy equipment, you are sort of gambling on whether your laptop will work properly.

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soooo.. if i wanna plug my external HDD to a macbook, i'll need an adapter that will fit into the firewire inserty-thing? (see, that's how hi-tech i am!)

do macbooks have USB plugs along w/ the firewire? i don't think i have many electronics that have a firewire.. most came w/ USB 2.0 cords.

but i think i got the pluggy stuff all figured out.. semi figured out??

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@samsooki @lb_tmi

The FireWire port is also known as an iLink (so called by Sony) or as a 1394 (so called by the rest of the universe). For me it is important because by using it, I can a) do fast video downloading from a video camera and b) put one computer in target mode so that it is in effect slaved to the first one, allowing me to do all kinds of neat techie stuff to it like transfer users, and do set ups and stuff. Very geeky, but rather important to me - if not other people.

As for the TV - I actually run a little hackintosh to my TV and frequently use it, so here's the lowdown.

Essentially, you are limited by the inputs on your TV.

Now, the MacBook has a "mini display port" and an audio out "headphone" port.
If you have a PC in port on your TV, you buy yourself a mini-display out to VGA cable, and there you are video in. The headphone out goes to audio in (or if you are using speakers to your receiver) - that's just a straight sound cable. Mine (a Sony Bravia 40" ca 2005) happens to have a PC-in port aka a VGA port. So mine cabled from the video out to a VGA PC in and from audio out (the headphone port) to the PC audio in. Kick it up, have it detect the screen, and good to go, it just pretends that it's a big computer screen.

If your TV has a DVI input, you're in the money - go for the straight mini to DVI cable and then the straight sound.

If your TV has an HDMI adapter - there is a mini-DV to HDMI cable. Again, sound is not transmitted, so it goes to audio in.

If you have a TV with RCA plugs (those are the standard 3 plug babies we are all used to) then you are officially up a creek. Unofficially, it can be done - you need the absolutely correct adapters (and there are alot that won't work as they bork) an adapter for the mini-display to VGA, then ANOTHER from VGA to RCA - OR mini display to DVI A (and it must be an A) and then DVI A to RCA.
Sound is the same straight out to audio in. Same with the S video adapter. It can be done, it HAS been done, you just need to get your cables straight. The problem here is that sometimes the screen detection goes wonky and it just plain doesn't want to work.

Alternatively, if you are using a home entertainment system or other such beast, you may well find inputs on your receiver or DVD player. All of which will likely work...eventually....if you twiddle enough bits.

Hokay?

::the geek is in today apparently!::

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273 lb_tmi

Yes, the MacBooks have USB ports. The MacBook Pro has FireWire AND USB ports.

So your external drive merely has to match the port - if it's a USB drive, then you are fine either way.

If you are mostly or all USB then the FireWire isn't important to you.
Like I said, the FireWire is pretty geeky, but for me it was the deciding factor on MacBook vs. Pro since it's so handy for doing setups.

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@274 momosan -

momo-

Are you referring to the standard 3.5mm jack that would go from your headphone out, to a red / white RCA left right cable?

Yeap, I didn't really focus on that, but you're right. For macbook pros, it would just be a matter of buying long enough 3.5mm headphone jack to Y split red/white RCA cables to go from your laptop to your TV.

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@276 samsooki

Yup! In the case of mine, it's actually a single jack for the audio in, not a double RCA like it would be to a receiver, but it's a simple audio out from the headphone jack to where ever you are sending the sound.

My little hack sits on top of a speaker next to the TV - so it was just a six foot cable.

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where does your laptop sit?

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@ samsookie..

you know what? i actually got what you were talking about re: hooking laptop to TV.. for some reason, all those plugs mean something to me.. and i know what they look like, and i know what they do. so yes, i will be able to hook up either a mac or a laptop, or even my desktop to my HDTV.. cuz i have HDMI ports on my desktop and TV.. and VGA PC in on my TV (and will be getting the adapter for it on the mac/laptop). it all makes sense. go figure.

@ momosan...

you really do make it sound easy.. and it's completely understandable to me.. so i get it!!! i'm 95% sure i'm getting a mac..

1) limited viruses= less fix
2) can hook up to my TV
3) runs windows if i want it to.

yep. almost hooked!

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@ samsooki

Well, in a truly geeky fashion - the little hackintosh - which is an MSI Wind Netbook U-100 transmogrified into a Mac - sits on top of the speaker next to the TV. It's the one wired to the TV and it stays there more or less all the time.

I can sit across the room with my MacBookPro, and by using the Screen Sharing utility over the network, I actually use the MacBookPro as a remote control. 8-)

When my Mom got hooked on QSD about 2 months after I did, we used the setup to marathon a bunch of back episodes via Dramafever. 8-) Alas, I believe Poor Bidam will meet his maker on MBC America tonight......

If I was going to do this in a few months, I'd probably buy an iPad instead of the netbook to do the same job.

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@ momosan

have i told you i really really like geeks? i mean REALLY REALLY LIKE geeks.
thanks so much!!!

samsookie and nycgrl too!

i knew i was asking the right ppl. DB is filled w/ awesome ppl comprised w/ all sorts of knowledge about all sorts of different things. i LOVE it here. i'm definitely moving in to stay!!!

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@280 momo -

Interesting coincidence, I actually poor-bidam'ed last night around 3 a.m. I totally didn't understand the poor bidam-ing thing until the last episode, when I totally got it. Even my wife was like, "wow, he's pretty hot." hehe. After it was all over, I was chuckling and saying, "NOW I GET IT.... now I understand why peepz were all like poor bidam-ing themselves and stuff." Yes, I poor-bidam'ed too.

Ahhh, I see what you did!!

http://www.lazyeights.net/Avion/fry-see-what-you-did-there.jpg
(I totally use this meme like 10 times a day, as I learn from from other peepz, as I suspect that javabeans and dahee used this meme when they learned about the true nature of attraction and jang naera and my love patzzi, hehe)

Ah, so you wired your netbook as your proxy mac.

Then you put the netbook into the wi-fi network you got going.

Then you access networked controlled through apple utility the netbook, and thus your mbp is your remote control.

Nice setup.

:D

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I personally want to shove Bidam in a donkey cart these days and watch him fall off a cliff.

No more Poor Bidam! by proxy, no siree. See, I'm surrounded by two harpies that call me or text me or post on FB about how much they are sad for Poor Bidam! and how much they love KNG, and then my B and BIL are all like, what's wrong with you women? And then I'm all like, you go Poor Bidam! somewhere else not in my ears and all over my FB page, and they are like, Wahhh, we have the hots for KNG, and I'm like, please shoot these women and put them out of their misery.

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@ momosan

I'm going to steal your setup and I was going to buy an ipad anyway but I also happen to have a spare mac book pro for guests which I can also use as a proxy.

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@283 ockoala -

hum.... I'm a guy. And as a guy, I scoffed at the poor bidam-ing that was going around to and fro. I was against poor bidam-ing because it seemed a bit much. I've seen QSD and I couldn't imagine the dandy that was bidam, regardless of what might happen at the end, to be worth poor bidam-ing. But maybe it was because it was 3am, and i was pretty tired, but I poor bidam'ed just a tad last night.

so this is the play by play:

2:55 a.m., samsooki wife was all like, "zzzzz." and also samsooki baby had finally gone to sleep and was mostly like, "zzzz." And then I was all quietly poor bidam-ing, like "poor bidam!"

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@ samsooki

I Poor Bidam! on behalf of the Army of Bidam for while (I'm sure I have OT comments to back up this claim, but am too lazy to go dig it up). However, after 3 weeks of non-stop Poor Bidam!ing anytime I talk to the two crazy harpies I am related to, I'm officially ready to stick yet another sword stab into Poor Bidam! myself (dood took a LONG time to die, might I add).

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hehe

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@283 ockoala
Assuming they are watching on MBC America, around about 930 tonight you will get tweets or emails or phone calls with weeping women on the other end. I tell you, POOR BIDAM! The last few episodes, the writers stick a knife in his heart and twist it every 10 minutes, escalating the agony. Just forward their tweets to me and I'll commiserate with them.

I watched it raw, and even with my limited Korean I understood 99% of it and it was a weeper. Lovely to see Bidam go into berserker mode again but Le Sigh. Poor Bidam. And yeah, KNG, sexy as anything as Bidam in warrior mode.

Although I have to say, assuming I heard the QSD's last line correctly, 20 minutes later they might be going "WTF?" because of all the things to say as your dying breath, that was a true WTF moment.

@samsooki

Ah! Where were we? Yep, that's the entire setup. The netbook has a mouse attached to it, so the MacBookPro isn't totally necessary, but as long as I'm computing away on the other side of the room anyway, it makes a nice and completely geeky remote.

I like
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2007/01/26/i-see-what-you-did-there-2/

Oh...and Poor Bidam. No wonder the poor guy looked like he'd been put through the wringer at the awards ceremony a few days later.

@284 nycgrl
The best thing about the setup is that I can run my iTunes through it as well.
So when I'm cooking in the kitchen (one room over) I can pick a playlist and let it blast.

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@286 ockoala

I'm actually not rewatching it, but I have to set the TV up for my Mom....then I run off and turn on the iTunes and hope she doesn't yell "HEY! What just happened!?" and make me come explain something. Yes, I'm hiding from QSD and Poor Bidam tonight.

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@ ockoala,

lol... lets go MO w/o the B and go BIDAM MUST DIE!!! (I know I'm going to go poor bidam later when I get there)

I'm not at that part of QSD, still stuck at 40sth ep. Hubby agreed yes QSD is draggy, yes it's not that well acted, yes the set is too universally bright and boring...but he still wanna know what will happen to everybody... imagine me almost taping my mouth shut not to blurp it all out.

and I'm finally getting who u r referring to with the frankenCJW in WUAS (I ff'd too much earlier on)... HAHAHA gosh what do u call that part of ur face btn the nose and your lips?!?! that part of her face is like some growing monster... it seems larger and more scary whenever she's talking.

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My turn: @ momosan - hehe, good luck tonight with your mom.

My crazies have *finished* watching QSD, lucky me. :-( Thankfully, they are not on twitter. Again, lucky me. :-)

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@290 mookie

I have to admit that I told both my parents at one point "Look, it's a sageuk. Everyone except 2 loyal retainers and the heir will DIE!!! It's a RULE!" Mom was not amused. Dad was, though.

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@ twin

Totally missed your post, on auto-posting mode today, did too much this morning and pretty burnt out now.

Anyways, we can't, we can't, I may want to shove Bidam in a bidet but I've not gone so far as to assert that BIDAM MUST DIE! That would drive our belleza insane and render Team MOB asunder and allow the silly SAVE BORA and PATZZI foolish ones to win by default. No, no, no KNG is hot as hell, I don't want Bidam to die. I just want the crazies to stop talking to me about it as if I understand what they are talking about, since I DID NOT watch QSD. Team MOB FTW!

Kekeke, now you know what I'm a-talking about, doesn't her face just freak you out. It looks like that thing formerly known as Heidi Montag's face these days. Seriously, I need to tape her face to my vanity mirror, and if I ever, ever, ever, one day consider Botox, lip injections, face lifts, or whatever the hell Franken-CJW did to her face, I will look at that face and love my wrinkles. The part btw her nose and her lips is what happens when you surgically insert a sausage in your upper lip. And my KH sure showed that beyotch what he thinks when she mashes that sausage to his lips and assaults him (that look was priceless!).

Stars - sigh, blissfully happy with that drama. I was in the toilet the other day (assisting the baby, duh!) and just thought that Stars is really the type of k-drama that k-dramas are known for doing better than anyone else. A delightful blend of family, individual maturation, blossoming love connection, and hateful witchy villianesses.

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@ momosan,

my hubby is already obsessing over Bidam now, beyond excited with that birth secret twist (he honestly didnt entertain the connection of MiShil and BiDam EVER....) he's not exactly helping when he's asking me if BiDam will die... THEN retract the q immediately.
I can only imagine how cRAZY he'll be later on... argh..

@twin,

MOB still holds KNG as major hot. but his BIDAM dies all hot and gloriously and sensually long... and last we'll get accused of is not sticking to our guns. lolz

o gosh I'm at ep 7 of WUAS....how super cute and reducing me to a pool of awww this little drama is!

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Rain asks via twitter whether his fans prefer him with long or short hair. I'm so tempted to respond: "honey, we all prefer you without your shirt on, we don't really care about the hair." That's less than 140 characters, right?

@ twin

When your hubby melts down, you can "comfort" him and assure him that Bidam is at a much happier place, i.e. anywhere else but in the living hell that appears to be Shilla court politics.

"BIDAM dies all hot and gloriously and sensually long" - well, okay, since you put it this way, Die Bidam! :-P

Oh, you're only on ep. 7 of WUAS? Yippee, you'll be caught up with me in no time and we can mock, poke with a sharp stick and generally malign Franken-CJW together. Oh, and bring TK home and pet him and cook him a nice meal and make him our play thing, he's so adorable!

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o I think all 3 of those guys r pulling my heartstrings in their own way!!!

o gosh the TK... at first glance I was going... this dude is about same age as our handsomes and he's their nephew?! but he's soooo endearing! this is how I want YKS' character to be like in Triple. He's all staking his claim on PG, not too pushy, not backing off at the impossible, w/o an ounce of annoyance, he's still his silly flimsy self, but he tried his best without trying TOO hard to help out PG out of pure good heart. awwwwwwwwwwwww

seriously frankenCJW, I bet the talentless actress is younger than CJW by a generation, but she looks older, she looks her evil mom's age!!! I'm fine though since she's reduced to a lump of walking silicon with so much more going on with WUAS than the typical love rectangle couple eps in. IF JH still harbors feelings for her, I'll be pissy, but hehe he has fine taste!

I'm usu not the guy2 girl, I'm all for choice per girl1, if she likes that cranky basterd guy1 more (doesnt hurt they r usu freaking hot) I'm all for support for our girl, plus they r all too good to be true pushovers for my taste. but here JH has some feisty in him and he's not love at first sight smitten by our cinderella!! and when he goes about with the 'morning exercise' with the kids what ar we girls supposed to do but drool and reside in our little corner to draw hearts?!

in WHIB, we dont really care for the girl2 either, but at least she's given SOME bite in some of her lines. For our lump of silicon, her lines r forgettable and monotonous, she's no facial muscle to move except her mouth and that growth btn her nose and lips AND the worst offense of all she's not even having cute outfits for us to steal!

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40+ posts since I was on OT last...and the only thing my fried brain pings on is the eternal "Rain, long hair or short hair?" question. And the answer (for me) is LONG LONG LONG LONG.

I'm tired. :-(

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@ockoala
hahahaha you crack me up....I guess langdon813 don't think same way. I'm with you!

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#283 ockoala " I personally want to shove Bidam in a donkey cart these days and watch him fall off a cliff. No more Poor Bidam! by proxy, no siree.."

Poor Bidam-ah! I'm waiting at the bottom of the cliff to catch you. Then I'll take you into the forest and hide you in a hut, and you'll be ALL mine!

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@ 298 cms lurver

LOL! When you get to know me better you'll realize that isn't quite the case.

I just assumed the shirtless part was a given. ;-)

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