Will It Snow For Christmas: Episode 8
by javabeans
Note that there will be no new episodes of Will It Snow For Christmas next week, because of SBS’s year-end awards shows. Episode 9 will air on January 6, which, by the way, is when Chuno premieres on KBS.
As for the title, well, I guess it didn’t snow on Christmas after all. Not that the drama even has a snow motif in play at the moment…
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Will It Snow For Christmas OST – “그대라서” (Since it’s you) by Gummy. [ Download ]
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EPISODE 8 RECAP
Kang-jin arrives at the police station in time to overhear Ji-wan’s pained confession over why she has been living with guilt, why she left Sancheong, why she ran away and cannot face her parents. It’s all because of him.
Drunk and exhausted, Ji-wan pitches forward onto Tae-joon’s shoulder, and to give him some credit, he looks genuinely concerned for her welfare. He moves to carry Ji-wan out, but Kang-jin steps forward and shoves him aside. Ignoring Tae-joon, he hoists her on his back and turns to leave. Tae-joon addresses him, although Kang-jin doesn’t acknowledge him back:
Tae-joon: “Let her go. She’s been hurt enough. You heard clearly for yourself, that your very existence is a source of pain to Ji-wan. Don’t you get it?”
Despite disregarding Tae-joon, Kang-jin is in fact thinking the same thing. As he carries her away, he thinks back to Ji-wan’s first refusal of him as a teenager, now knowing the full story behind the outburst. He wrestles his conflicted emotions as he sees her home and puts her to bed.
A week later, Jun-su is dealing with some bad medical news — but against his expectations, it’s not regarding Chun-hee’s health, but his own. Chun-hee is fine, but his doctor friend has informed him that he’s suffering from a serious brain tumor that requires surgery. Jun-su takes a fatalistic line, sighing that surgery wouldn’t really change anything. He broods to himself while he tries to come to grips with the situation.
This means he has stayed away from Chun-hee, who has jumped to conclusions and assumes that she is dying. She takes to her bed, and even Young-sook tries to cheer her up. (Young-sook is more friendly now that she realizes what her husband’s business with Chun-hee was.) Chun-hee sulks like a petulant teenager — Young-sook must be happy that she’s dying! Young-sook, however, reminds her of her promise to ignore Jun-su if she gave Bu-san’s alibi. Doesn’t she have any conscience for reneging on her word?
That makes Chun-hee look at her sharply — how dare she speak of conscience when she was the one who stole Jun-su away from Chun-hee? She knew that they were in love and used her father’s power to take him away. Chun-hee snaps, “What is a promise to a woman who’s about to die?!”
Jun-su finally comes to see Chun-hee, presenting her with the test results. He contradicts her drama-queen declarations that she must be dying and says that she’s healthy.
That cheers her up, but he puts a quick damper on that by asking sternly if she’s going to keep her promise with his wife. He says bluntly, “You’re not dying of a disease, so keep the promise. I’m not going to see you anymore, either. Not till I die.”
After he steps outside, he breaks down into tears.
The rabble-rouser from the previous episode, named Kim Jung-pil, presents Woo-jung with documentation showing that his father’s gravesite is in fact real and that his grievance with Bumseo Group’s new shopping-mall project is valid. If they don’t do what he wants, he threatens to call the media.
Woo-jung remains suspicious and tries to keep her temper under control enough to placate Kim Jung-pil, offering generous compensation if he will negotiate. He answers that he will only negotiate after they fire Kang-jin.
Meanwhile, Kang-jin has gone on a business trip to look into Kim’s claim. He’s due back today, so Woo-jung orders Jae-hyun to summon him immediately. Jae-hyun finds Kang-jin in the parking lot soon after his arrival and lets him know that Woo-jung is on the warpath and wants to see him. Oh, and also, Ji-wan is in the lobby to see him — curiously enough, she calls him “Kang-jin oppa.” When did that happen?
Tae-joon spies Ji-wan first and approaches. She looks chagrined to see him, but thanks him politely for helping her the night before. She remembers seeing him at the police station, but everything after that is blank. She assumes that he helped her home, and thanks him.
Tae-joon doesn’t deny it, letting her think it was him, and asks to see her later. Ji-wan declines by answering, “I’m going to meet Kang-jin oppa. I came to see him. I haven’t heard from him in a week so I was worried.”
Since she doesn’t remember it, Tae-joon tells her what she had confessed at the police station — that Kang-jin is the reason her brother died and that she can’t date him now because of it.
Tae-joon: “Are you confident you can keep seeing Cha Kang-jin, laughing and chatting with him and being happy? Are you confident that you can forget about your brother so he doesn’t pop up in your memory? If you are, then date him and I won’t stop you.”
At that moment, Kang-jin appears in the lobby. Despite coming to see him, Ji-wan turns away abruptly, as though to avoid him. After a moment, she turns back and walks toward him, pinning a smile on her face as though everything is normal: “I heard you went on a business trip. That’s why I haven’t heard from you in a week. You were really confounded when I disappeared from the pojangmacha, weren’t you?”
Explaining that she had felt tired and cold, she had headed home. Since their date didn’t work out as planned, how about they forget it and start over? She suggests a particular restaurant and draws a map on his hand with the information, telling him that she’ll wait for him there after work. They’re open all night, so he can take his time and even if he’s late, she’s fine to stay until morning.
Aware that she’s forcing her cheeriness, Kang-jin remains silent all the while, looking at her with a careworn expression. And sure enough, as soon as she’s outside, Ji-wan falls to her knees, feeling the toll of trying to act normal.
At home, she tells her family portrait, defensively, “I’m not sorry, not at all. Eight years of being sorry is plenty. I’ve been sorry enough! Now let me have this. Let this slide, just once.”
Upset at the Kim Jung-pil situation, Woo-jung takes it out on Kang-jin, throwing papers in his face and asking if he realizes what he’s done. If this puts a stop to the construction plans, it means a huge loss for the company. He has two options: beg the guy for forgiveness, or resign. Kang-jin says, without hesitation, “I’ll write my resignation.”
He presents some documents and tells her that twenty years ago, Kim Jung-pil abandoned a grandfather suffering from dementia. He didn’t know where his father’s grave was, or even that he had died. It’s also clear that someone coached him on how to behave with Bumseo and when to appear.
She asks if he’s suggesting that somebody in the company did this. Kang-jin merely answers that he doesn’t know: “I don’t wish to be a source of trouble to the company any longer. I’m sorry.” He bows and leaves.
It’s pretty clear that Kang-jin knows what happened, but he’s not going to accuse anyone and would rather leave on his own terms. He begins to pack up his apartment and calls his mother, asking if she’d be interested in setting up a restaurant together. They could make it a family business.
Chun-hee assumes he’s kidding around, but he continues pushing for the restaurant, which puzzles her. Hearing that they’re having a big dinner, he announces that he’s going to head down to join them, and starts the long drive to Sancheong.
However, a glimpse at his palm reminds him of Ji-wan’s date proposal, and he hesitates. He’s torn between the choices — Tae-joon’s warning hits home, but Ji-wan did say she would wait all night. After trying to ignore the impulse, in the end he turns around and heads for the restaurant.
True to her word, Ji-wan sits there for hours, waiting. Seeing a girl fiddling with a Rubik’s cube, Ji-wan offers to solve it for her, and gets to work. This is the sight that greets Kang-jin when he finally arrives at the front door.
He remembers the incident with his mother’s shoe, and how she had boasted that she’s handy with things like this, only to break the shoe in the end. Like then, she fumbles with the cube now, furrowing her brow in consternation and saying that she’s usually good at this.
Kang-jin takes over, works the cube quickly, and hands it back completed.
Woo-jung calls for a meeting with Kim Jung-pil, who reminds her of his demand. She asks shrewdly, “Why are you so fixated on Cha Kang-jin’s fate?” She agrees to compensate him, so he’d better drop that condition.
When she asks whether he’d been coached by someone, he feigns ignorance. Woo-jung knows he’s bluffing and coolly presents him with two photographs — Tae-joon and his sidekick, Sung-min. Was it either of these men? Kim Jung-pil’s expression tells us that she’s got him, but he sticks to his denial. So she comes at him with an offer to triple his compensation payout — if he tells her the truth.
At first, Ji-wan picks at her food, content to watch Kang-jin eating heartily. He notices and urges her to eat up, so she dives in to the food. But instead of enjoying the food, she starts to shovel in mouthful after mouthful, which makes him look at her in worry. He tells her to slow down, but she keeps going, ignoring him.
Naturally, she suffers, and throws up in the bathroom. She waves off his concern, however, and says that because her stomach is empty now, she’s hungry again. Cheerfully, she suggests going for some ddukbokki.
At first he’s amused, but that quickly turns to confused concern. He watches with a pained expression as she stubbornly continues to shove food into her mouth, hardly giving herself time to chew or swallow one bite before adding another. This time, he steps in and tells her to stop eating. He knows she isn’t hungry and she’s not enjoying the food, so why is she doing this? He orders her to spit out her mouthful.
Round 2 also ends with Ji-wan getting sick. As she retches by a park bench, he tries to help by pounding on her back, but she shoves him away. She’s in a stubborn mood, and when he suggests that they call it a day, she protests.
Ji-wan wrenches her hand from his and bursts out in a self-accusatory tone:
Ji-wan: “We’re meeting after eight years and we couldn’t even eat a meal properly together, because of me!”
Kang-jin: “We can eat together next time.”
Ji-wan: “Next time? Who knows what’ll happen then?!”
Kang-jin: “We’ll meet tomorrow and eat together, and see a movie the day after that. Then the day after that, let’s go to the most wonderful, beautiful place in Seoul and walk holding hands. I have lots of time now. I have nothing but time.”
His assurance is sweet, and he tells her more gently that she should rest tonight, and they’ll be sure to meet tomorrow. But she still feels conflicted, and goes home and cries frustrated tears. I suspect she’s angry with herself for not being properly happy — she must be recalling Tae-joon’s challenge of whether she can be happy with Kang-jin without being haunted by her brother’s death.
During class, Ji-wan can’t concentrate and smiles to remember Kang-jin’s promise to see each other again. But she doesn’t look too good — it would be more accurate to say she looks like death warmed over — and has trouble focusing, finally falling unconscious at her seat.
Kang-jin hears about Ji-wan’s collapse from the cafe owner and rushes to the hospital, where Tae-joon is already waiting in the hall. Inside Ji-wan’s room, the professor asks crankily who he is, noting, “You look even worse than the other guy. Are you three in a love triangle?” Kang-jin asks what’s wrong, but the professor doesn’t know.
Kang-jin tells him that she had overeaten last night and vomited. He tried to stop her, but she forced herself to continue eating and vomited again. The professor asks for more information, so Kang-jin adds, “Ji-wan is having a really hard time because of me. B-because of me, she’s overdoing it. Because of me… Ji-wan’s brother died.”
Professor: “Then she got sick because she couldn’t deal with you. She couldn’t accept you so she tried to swallow that food instead, and made herself sick. If you try to force yourself to accept something that won’t be accepted, you make yourself sick. This kid could get herself in trouble, and sickness born of resentment can kill a person.”
Kang-jin: “What has to be done?”
Professor: “The source of pain has to go away, like with all illnesses. Why ask what you already know?!”
Kang-jin walks out numbly, shoulders slumped and mind preoccupied.
Tae-joon: “There’s a kind of fate where two people shouldn’t meet twice. Some people are supposed to end things after a short first encounter. It’s like that for me and Woo-jung, and also for you and Ji-wan. Let go of her. Ji-wan can’t let go of you. Even if that dummy kills herself like this, she won’t let you go. So you let go. You stop it. Please.”
Fighting back tears, Kang-jin thinks back to the day Ji-yong gave him the notebooks, sending us into a flashback.
Ji-yong has called a meeting with Kang-jin and sizes him up — Kang-jin is the top student at school and popular with the girls. Ji-yong talks as though he’s on Kang-jin’s side, commiserating with his predicament. “This won’t work,” he says with an amused look at Kang-jin, “I’ll have to tell Ji-wan to give up on you. Even to me, you’re out of her reach as a boyfriend. She’s a bad student and she’s not even pretty — how could she look at a guy like you? Sorry, she doesn’t know her own level.”
This speech makes Kang-jin look at him in dismay; he doesn’t see what we can clearly see — that this is a test. Kang-jin says, haltingly, “But Ji-wan’s pretty. And I’m definitely not too above her reach. Out of all the girls I know, Ji-wan is the nicest, prettiest, best girl. About her not being a good student… I can teach her.”
Test passed! Ji-yong asks, “Are you confident you won’t ever change your mind? You won’t ever hurt her, or make her cry? Do you feel confident you can make her happy every day, and make her smile every day?”
In answer, Kang-jin holds up his finger for a pinky-swear. Ji-yong smiles and accepts that promise.
Woo-jung meets with Tae-joon’s sidekick Sung-min and asks, “Are you Park Tae-joon’s dog?” She knows everything, so he doesn’t have to bother defending himself. She saw him deleting Kang-jin’s presentation and heard from Kim Jung-pil about their deal. How can Sung-min be so loyal to Tae-joon — is this because of the money Tae-joon gave him two years ago? Does he even know where Tae-joon got that money?
Sung-min bows his head miserably and defends Tae-joon — this was all his own fault, not Tae-joon’s! The money came from Woo-jung’s father to break up with her, and that money saved Sung-min’s mother. Woo-jung’s eyes widen in surprise to hear that Tae-joon was intending to use the money for surgery bills for his father, but the day he got the money, his father died. He had told Sung-min that since it wasn’t going to do him any good, he should save his mother with it.
While this new information stuns Woo-jung, who had never known, it doesn’t invalidate her anger or disappointment in Tae-joon. She still addresses him acerbically:
Woo-jung: “You must have encountered other rivals in your life. Were you this cowardly back then?”
Tae-joon: “No, I wasn’t. Then, I wasn’t afraid of anything. Then, I was on top of the world..”
Woo-jung: “But were you that afraid of Team Leader Cha?”
Tae-joon: “Yes. I was scared of him, for some strange reason.”
Woo-jung: “Because he’s honest and honorable. Compared to the likes of you, who uses whatever means he has to in order to obtain his goal, he’s superior. This time I’m going to definitely fire you. That way, I can save Team Leader Cha. That way, the world becomes just.”
I kinda love Tae-joon’s reaction, because mixed in with his resentment of Kang-jin is fear and vulnerability. It’s not enough to sway us to his side, but enough to make him a pitiable, rather than hateful, character.
With Tae-joon, Woo-jung is strong and self-possessed, but it’s only after he leaves that she allows herself to shed tears.
Tae-joon starts to pack up his desk, while at the same time, Kang-jin packs up his apartment. Woo-jung covers up her own tears and puts on her happy face as she arrives at Kang-jin’s doorstep. He ignores her hint to come inside and steps outside to keep their interaction in the hallway.
Woo-jung holds up his resignation letter, then rips it up. The issue wasn’t his fault, so he can show up to work tomorrow. In fact, she punished Tae-joon and saved Kang-jin: “Aren’t you thankful? Aren’t I pretty to you? If I am, can you hug me just once?”
Kang-jin looks amazed (and amused) at her audaciousness, but before he can respond, he catches sight of Ji-wan down the hall.
Ji-wan had remembered Kang-jin’s vow to see her the next day (and the next). She had left the hospital, still feeling sick, to make good on the promise.
Woo-jung clocks Kang-jin’s reaction to Ji-wan and sizes up the situation. Eyeing Ji-wan as a challenge, she says, “If a hug is too weak, a kiss will do. Or if a kiss is too much of a burden, then just a peck?”
Once more, Kang-jin recalls Tae-joon’s accusation that he’s a source of pain for Ji-wan. He knows that Tae-joon is right about Ji-wan never letting go of him, even at the expense of her own well-being. It hits him that this may be the best chance to act, to force her to let go.
So he grabs Woo-jung and swoops in for a kiss. Ji-wan looks at him in hurt, then silently walks away.
The moment is painful for Kang-jin as well, and tears fall from his eyes as he thinks:
Kang-jin: “I dreamed a dream. In that dream, I met Ji-wan. In the dream, I promised Ji-wan never to let her go again. That I wouldn’t be foolish like before, in our Sancheong days.”
COMMENTS
Minor complaint first: I dislike that the two moms fight over Jun-su like he doesn’t have a mind of his own. True, that happens in real life when the two sides of a love triangle hate each other more than the wishy-washy one in the middle. But I’m not a fan of this behavior, in dramas or in real life. Yes, Chun-hee feels betrayed that her friend backstabbed her and stole her man so the issue is more than just fighting over a man, but why is she angry with Young-sook and not Jun-su? Based on the little hints we are being dropped, I suspect that there may be more to the story so I will refrain from further complaining — for now — but it had better make sense in the end.
Less-minor complaint: I’m going to put up with this Ji-wan-makes-herself-sick-with-anger plotline if it ends now — but really, drama? I suppose it’s better than her being suddenly stricken with cancer. Or is it? Cancer as a plot device in a Korean melodrama is by now a joke of a cliche, BUT at least there’s a base logic for the stuff that follows a cancer diagnosis. Here, the logic is less sound. One episode of Ji-wan throwing up in indigestion and suddenly the long-separated lovers must be parted forever? REALLY.
It had better be wrapped up in the next episode, is all I’m sayin’.
On the upside, the conflict was acted out well on all fronts. I find myself still wanting more from Han Ye-seul, but I can deal with it — at least Go Soo and Song Jong-ho are both doing wonderful things with their eyes. Sunwoo Sun, too, actually.
I thought Tae-joon’s sick father plot point was rather lazy, but it does support the feeling I’ve been harboring that Tae-joon is a much more complex guy than he seems at first glance. For instance, I’m still skeptical that he’s acting out against Kang-jin in pure jealousy — he seems too conflicted to succumb to such a simple reason. I don’t mean he’s not feeling jealous, but that I think there’s more to him than meets the eye.
In earlier scenes, he had let Woo-jung assume the worst of him and never defended himself. It made me wonder if he was letting her malign him more than he even deserved, as though he were thinking, “Fine, just blame me. I hate myself anyway so what’s the point in quibbling over details?”
I think Tae-joon may see himself as a lost cause — he made the decision to take the money in exchange for Woo-jung and he has to live with it, so he won’t bother trying to justify the reason as noble. This may also explain why he’s not willing to let go of Ji-wan without a fight — it may be less about Kang-jin and really more about his own battle with himself, as I said in the last recap. I still don’t get the sense that he is in love with Ji-wan, but in his two encounters with Kang-jin in this episode, he made clear that his concern was for Ji-wan’s sake first and foremost. (Even if I still can’t believe the logic they’re expecting us to follow here. Really? Ji-wan MAY EVEN DIE if Kang-jin doesn’t leave? Because she’ll continue to overeat and her body won’t be able to handle it? Two words: PEPTO BISMOL.)
(Yes, I do understand that the “anger can kill you” line doesn’t have to be literal. It’s actually quite poetic and the theme is one I can appreciate. It’s the handling of the theme that I find dissatisfactory.)
Plus side: I am really liking how sharp Woo-jung is. So many women in dramas can barely see what’s right in front of their eyes, and sometimes even then they have to have everything spelled out for them, which gets frustrating. (How can these dim bulbs attract such undying loyalty from such brilliant, handsome, amazing men?) But it’s refreshing how Woo-jung can put two and two together; she sees through people’s lame excuses and calls people on their bullshit.
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51 sscrumb
December 26, 2009 at 6:50 AM
The plot points in Ep 8 really disappointed me. I feel like this drama went into the usual Kdrama tropes of the lead couple having to be separated for no other reason than there needs to be more angst to fill up 16 episodes.
I like kdramas where the couples actually fight together to stay together - no matter what life throws at them (a great example of this is KS & JI in Smile, You - which has made me much more impatient with passive woe is me kdrama couples). I can't invest in or root for a couple that cannot act in their own self-interests. I am not downplaying the heavy emotional issues here but KJ has been shown to be academically and emotionally smart - in addition, the key to why I like his character is that he is direct and assertive - I feel like we've lost that with this ep. The issue is that JW is suffering from extreme mental stress perhaps manifesting in bulimia (which I actually do not agree with) but why is no one trying to get her to see a psychiatrist? Why has all of these smart, academically gifted males not realizing she might need grief counseling?
The "lesson" in most kdramas is that problems do not get solved by purposely creating a huge misunderstanding that creates forced separation. It is the timid characters that lose in love. KJ showed both in these eps.
I also hate the plot development that requires one party to purposely hurt another party to get them to accept a forced separation. Is JW supposed to feel better now that her brother died for the love of a man who is "player"?
KJ was set up as being a straight forward, honorable, highly competent guy, but in the last two episodes he has broken every promise he has made to JW. First he forgot to meet her in the restaurant after the alloted hour (which I thought was an unbelievable plot point) and then then he goes back on his promise to JW that from then on he will see her everyday. More romantic than the grand "I will leave her to spare her pain" is the" I will stay and help JW so that she can move on from her pain". In ep 8 he allows himself to be overwhelmed by the emotional situation - I really feel its a betrayal of the character that they have built up to this point.
I think the actors (with the possible exception of HYS) are doing a great job with what they've been given but I'm finding that I am more drawn to the younger KJ and found the younger KJ much more interesting. I feel it odd that KJ has lost all of his youthful angst about his family situation - I would have thought some of his anger against the world would have survived even after 8 years. I feel that GS is portraying KJ as much more of a happy adult than I would have expected.
A note about TJ, I find his character interesting and I do think that he has been drawn to illicit sympathy but what from what I've seen so far, TJ is a weak man and the flip side to KJ's noble man. I feel like TJ's main motivating impulse is fear and selfishness. He is or was a decent man who has discovered that he is less than what he aspired to be. I found it very self-serving that TJ told KJ that KJ is torturing JW and must leave her. While it may be true, is it necessarily for JW's best interest that KJ leaves JW? or is it for TJ's best interest. Also, why bring up JW's forgotten confession to JW? Because TJ does not want to lose JW he wants JW to have second thoughts. I do believe he cares about JW but not as much as he does not want to lose JW too.
I'm also scared of the jelled back hair style of evil that KJ is sporting in the previews for ep9 . I've seen the hair style change used in a lot of lamer kdramas...I hope this is just a psych out.
Sorry this was such a long post but ep 8 really bothered me.
Javabeans, thank you for your recaps. I think the show owes you a solid - if not for your recaps I would never started watching as I usually stay away from MELOdramas and HYS in general.
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52 Sonam
December 26, 2009 at 8:06 AM
Woo Jung seems to be the only sane person in this drama and it's almost a relief when she comes onscreen. Everyone else seems to be on the brink including KJ. They all need therapy. KJ's obsession with JW is almost unpleasant.
JW is the only one who should be acting insane because she has a good reason.
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53 wowowee0210
December 26, 2009 at 8:20 AM
This drama is great because of Go Soo and the teen stars acting. I love those 2 young stars (young KJ and JW) plus JW's brother is soo HOT!!!! It seems to me that HYS is out of her league to play JW's role. Gosh ,Lee Da Hae, Son Hye Jin,Ha Ji Won could have been a better choice. I can't stand HYS acting as if it is forced.I wish the teen stars were given more time in this drama as I feel that the first 2 episodes were the best one's so far that made me addicted to WISFC.It is also nice to see familiar faces especially the very handsome Go Soo , the dad from Smile You , the uncle from Don't Hesitate, one of the wives in Queen of House wife and one of the guys in Golden Bride. Thanks for the recap as it makes the situations clearer after watching the raw video. Thanks again javabeans !!!!!!
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54 Suzy
December 26, 2009 at 8:33 AM
Thanks Javabeans for this recap!!! teeheehee my christmas present!!!!! :)
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55 RandomTouristX
December 26, 2009 at 9:19 AM
It is ironic a quip i made about the 'eating disorder' for JW's character ended up being something far more serious than intended.
I actually think HYS had the toughest role to play out of the 4 leads compared to GooSoo who has probably the most straightforward and he does it very well. He broods like no other and is very easy to read and empathise while looking damn fine doing so, and as such he wins the audience's heart by his pureness.
JW is probably most conflicted character, been hurt the most - largely self afflicted, and is someone who has become so lonely and introverted since teenager due to her brother’s death. This is of course the opposite of what she was like as a teenager, someone who's brave and believes in fairness, justice and righteousness, so much so she often put herself on the front line and got herself in trouble.
JW suffers all the heartaches while totally alone, because she think it is deserves (justice has to pay), and she has to pay for whatever she did or what she caused. She did this without any family support or friends, no consoling or counselling. The irreplaceable damage emotionally and the eating disorder is the physical repercussion of that. Truly is no laughing matter however you wish the main couples get together, it would just be improbable now the cat is out of the bag, something for once i think is a genuine good reason to keep the characters apart.
Her definition of self worth is damaged, she is broken. It is very sad to see what ever spirit she had as a child, had been totally saped. Out of the four characters, she has probably the greatest catching up to do, to eventually forgive herself and accept that she deserves forgiveness and happiness and even love.
Goo Soo's character out of the 4 leads are probably the most straight forward. Other than having grown up troubled - a single parent child that lacked in father figures, he has grown to accepting that who he is and embrace the indifference. I love his relationship with mum. He behaves like a older brother to his mum because in many ways her mum still act like a teenager.
KJ has no agenda out of the 4 characters, like WJ’s description of him; he is honest, straightforward and doesn’t play games or have hidden agenda. His world is lot simpler, until now that is. It would be very interesting to see how this tragedy would affect him and how the reconciliation might even begin. In real life this would be highly unlikely but in kdrama, there is hope yet.
JW had 8 years having to deal with it, she began by abandon everyone who she loves to pay for her sins. And now is KJ’s turn. He has just begun which resulted in this knee jerk reaction of ‘the kiss’. Don’t forget, JW’s brother is probably the first male model he had as a teenager, someone he clearly look up to judging by the scene, someone who he clearly respect highly, ie/ no cocky attitude and is sincere unlike his interaction with everyone else as a teenager. To have found out he had indirectly caused his death and JW’s tragedy without knowing, it would be a lot to take in.
It is very interesting at this point, at half way point, i can't predict how it is going to end, except hopeful that the writer would deal with the tragedy in a realistic way how ever melodramatic it ended up being. I am a huge fan of the writer’s work for Sorry I love you and Thank you, let’s hope he/she can do a great job here.
I am curious about the title of the drama at this point, why Christmas? Would it refer to something like 1 year on?
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56 Rachael
December 26, 2009 at 11:02 AM
@39 butterball
Haha, we have come to rather similiar view points.
@41 JB
I certainly don't mean it in a light term. I find it rather alarming for a character since many do not assume it would be self-inflicted. Just that I find it fits the pattern I see presented, my distinction is I don't see it as bulimia nervosa for JW. I see your point of being leery just because she overate twice and threw up, but I was also thinking of all the times she was intentionally eating more than she should. Not to mention there are far more movies or shows (though more American I've watched in this case) where the writer(s) have it indicated with less. Though usually with a lack of eating instead of overeating. So, while I was thinking of those two times, I was also thinking of all the other times she was overeating to try and gain a sense of control. Such as the two ramens after finding KJ suddenly in her room after already stress-filled situations involving him and in a lesser extent, TJ. Or the time after the confrontation of TJ and KJ she immediately went to the fridge and would have consumed expired food if TJ hadn't made her stop. Or over consuming after talking to her father. There's been only one episode (after the first two childhood ones) looking back through the recaps where she hasn't over eaten at some point during the episode. She's intentionally doing this, even if the goal isn't to vomit, it's meant to console herself with the ability to have a way to display control over something when she's feeling out of control. That's what I'm concentrating on in my speculation of JW being a bulimic.
@55 RandomTouristX
Christmas maybe as the idea of re/birth?
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57 Madita
December 26, 2009 at 11:16 AM
WISH YOU ALL A MERRY CHRISTMAS *^^*
Thanks JB for the recap of EP.8 :) I did not expect it, thinking of celebrating these nice days. So its a very nice christmas present for us. Thanks again.
regarding EP8 I liked and agree with @55 -RandomTouristX words. So I wait eagrly for 6th January.
In this Ep. I loved to see the younger actors again. I was glad, that they didnt cut them them totally out after the first 2 Eps and hope there will be more new scenes of them in the future eps.
I think the drama is about FORGIVENESS and Love, like Christmas - maybe thats the reason why its called WISFC. So they should have an happy end forgivinig themselves and others and start a new life again.
:) As you can see, I am in total x-mass mode LOL
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58 JK
December 26, 2009 at 3:31 PM
I CAN'T WAIT FOR THE SUBS TO COME OUT!!!!! OMG LUVVVVV IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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59 su-pah
December 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Go-soo looking paticularly yummy in this episode, totally appreciating the screencaps! (especially this one: http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/javabeans122/drama/2009/xmas/snow1/xmas8-00073.jpg --- which I now have as tiled desktop background!)
Awesome recap and I am in love with this drama, I do strongly agree that the child actors were mindblowingly brilliant whereas the adult actors or rather Han Ye-seul's acting isn't up to scratch, but I think it's all part of the character, I can usually overlook these elements, they are relative when there are many other positives in play. But now all the criticism of her acting has made me paranoid too! Kind of spoiling it for lovers like me who are too engrossed in the story to care otherwise. Rant over.
The ending was pretty painful! Poor Ji Won, WJ is such a man stealing, despo beeatch!
Roll on ep.9 already! :D
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60 missmanderley ` blossompop!
December 26, 2009 at 4:00 PM
omg, TRUFAX!
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61 corealove
December 26, 2009 at 4:26 PM
ahhhhhhh!!!!! i can't wait until jan 6th!!!!
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62 loveydovey
December 26, 2009 at 4:27 PM
this drama makes me wanna keep watching plot-wise and of course because of go soo, but for crying out loud i've never seen more ridiculous or dramatic acts from characters lol. the stuff they do and the stuff that happens is just....wtf????
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63 Biscuit
December 26, 2009 at 7:02 PM
Ah, Han Ye Seul. Even if her character is different from childhood, I can understand.
1. Rather than seeing a gradual change from teen to adulthood, it's a large jump from point a to b. Therefore the differences are pretty obvious. So I don't really mind the few differences in characteristics.
2. The childhood Ji Wan was spunky, but a pretty big trauma happened and that's obviously enough to change her. We don't see how she deals with it as a teen or how she lives after she runs away. So the only glimpse of Ji Wan young is her spunky self, but now how young-Ji Wan was after the trauma when she ran away or how she dealt with life. She's been alone without guidance, so I don't feel annoyed how adult Jiwan is not the same as young Ji Wan. I don't know how they can be the same.
Yet at the same time, Han Ye Seul could upgrade her acting.........
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@Rachael:
"Christmas maybe as the idea of re/birth?"
I've never really understood X-mas (other than knowing that it's pretty un-Christian without bible-backing... which is pretty wrong, imo, to call it a Christian activity when it isn't supported by the bible.)
What does X-mas have to do with rebirth?
Perhaps maybe I could understand the title and connect it with the drama more... :)
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64 honest_will
December 26, 2009 at 7:45 PM
the series is now in the half way mark
cant wait for the next ep in the new year
all the main cast are doing well but there something about taejoon
i hate him because of how his character behaves, he is a backstabber and also a person who thinks his GOD
i mean, its not like he hasn't done anything wrong before but he makes other people feel bad so he can get the girl,
taejoon uses this so he can get the girl and so that kangin can leave
i feel like taejoon is taking ji wan not because of her but because of kangin
just like kids taking a test, the person getting the full marks can parade in front of everyone while the other suffers
chun, jun su and co should just have a big mediation process because there story isn't really juicy anymore, when i watch i viikii, i just fastforward to the kangin/jiwan story
anway my rant is over and enjoy whats left of your weekend
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65 glencorajane
December 26, 2009 at 8:06 PM
Hi, I totally agree with Javabeans clarifcation at #30, that it is a physical illness manifestation of the emotional problem. It is not bulimia or something.
As I wrote in an earlier post, I cried through the 2nd half of ep 8, maybe I didn't watch enough of korean dramas. But I think the fact that JW tried to get over her guilt and restart with KJ but her body is telling her otherwise if a really excellent piece of writing.
For those who doesn't feel it, probably you haven't been there. Me, being in my 30s and gone through quite a few ups and downs in life, I can understand how psychologically you tell yourself to try to do something, but your body will hold you back in the strangest way.
Both KJ and JW will need some time and eps to digest their emotions before reconcilling them. I am sticking to this show!!
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66 OzChick
December 26, 2009 at 8:24 PM
I just don't get why Kang-Jin has to leave Ji-wan. Wouldn't it be more logical to stay with her and help her through her pain? How is leaving going to help her? It really does NOT COMPUTE. I'm only sticking with this drama because of Go Soo, otherwise I would've dropped this ages ago.
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67 RandomTouristX
December 26, 2009 at 8:35 PM
One thing that is worth highlight is the significance of the scene with JW's brother and the young KJ.
So far we assumed the brother and KJ didn't k,now each other, but there were many hints that tell us his brother had in fact been a significant influence in KJ's life.
1. The troubled teenager who always ends up in police stations, in fights ended up doing doing the right things growing up. Going to the right university, studied abroad, a star in his industry and having good relationship with his family etc.
2. The sincere young KJ at the cafe meeting where for once opened up and talked about his true feelings. It was where he also made that serious promise. To come to think of it, it was the only time i think the teenage KJ smiled so openly in the entire series.
3. Some how KJ got out of his trouble teenage years by having an objective - may be having found a male model in JW's brother or someone to look up to. Or identified someone to take care of (Beside his mum and brother). He continues to search for JW by revisiting her home from time to time.
4. In his own words, KJ made important use of his brother's examine notes over the years and had even decided followed his foot steps by the same university as his brother. He also kept the notes over the years in the hope of finding JW so he can let her know how important she or he has been to him.
If the brother had not been his male model influence, i don't know what is one.
Imagine to had this significant person, a semi-mentor or someone he clearly respect or have had influenced by - to found that he is indirectly responsible for his death, it makes his break down scene at the hospital staircase even more heart breaking and poignant. It is not just JW, but he has lost someone too - someone he had indirectly be responsible for.
I'd be surprised if his subsequent decision and action was not just based on what would be right for JW, probably also out of some guilt and regret including his own outbursts infront of the highly impressionable teenage JW.
It may also be possible that he is subconsciously wanting to run away from the issue, hinted by the fact he hadn't contact JW for more than a week since discovering the truth and there's no way out.
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68
December 26, 2009 at 9:02 PM
kang jin reminds me so much of jang dong gun back in all about eve... they both have that certain male charm that is just hard to resist.....
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69 Thumbsom
December 26, 2009 at 9:08 PM
JB, isn't it plausible for Jiwan to behave as such at the moment when she's overburden with guilt for liking someone who indirectly caused her brother's death? I have to credit to the writer on this one since I can truly relate to her. Time doesn't heal all wounds nor does it allow people to forgive themselves, which Jiwan had begged for upon returning home from their dinner date. It's logical to conclude that since it was their first real date, she was inundated with emotions (of guilt, love, self-hate) which wrought on the overeating. Ever been so nervous/anxious in a situation that food accidentally drops, or water glass gets spilled? Her behavior was extreme as the end result of her liking Kang-jin was also extreme. So, her behavior isn't at all inexplicable. She's no longer that tough spunky kid, but a fragile being whose foolishness caused a tragic outcome.
"Even if I still can’t believe the logic they’re expecting us to follow here. Really? Ji-wan MAY EVEN DIE if Kang-jin doesn’t leave? Because she’ll continue to overeat and her body won’t be able to handle it? Two words: PEPTO BISMOL."
I don't think the writer is expecting us to believe this; this speech was used for dramatic effect, a plea from TJ to KJ to leave Jiwan for various reasons (those plot devices which you love to point out). Pepto Bismol doesn't cure overeating. Stress from guilt can affect our physiology, and yes, lead to death. That's also reasonable. The writer merely implied that possibility here.
Lastly, "as a Plus side: I am really liking how sharp Woo-jung is". She didn't figure anything out on her own. This has happened a few times already. KJ was instrumental in helping her figure things out. Otherwise, she would've been like other classic melodrama second leads/villain. The writer has shown us many times how hasty Woo-jung can be.
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70 Rachael
December 26, 2009 at 9:23 PM
@63 Biscuit
Haha, it is a very wrong location of when to celebrate Jesus's birth. While he may have been born in the spring, religion dictates the winter season. So I thought of it as taking the idea of Christmas in birth, but in this case rebirth involving JW. The hope of snow on Christmas I take from what I recall of Kdramas and the romantic connections with snow. So I'm speculating that perhaps the title is a question of whether the romantic relationship between JW and KJ will be reborn after it has been broken off (and not just once, but twice after this relationship). Or at least a rebirth in JW being able to love herself again, by the display of forgiving herself. So two possible speculations on the title. So far hehe.
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71 D
December 26, 2009 at 9:31 PM
im quite impressed with the comments..
well, initially i thought it was as sign of JW being bulimic but then i realized it must be more than that.. and im agreeing with some of the analyzation here.. im just wondering where the writer will take us
of ep9 preview, well... not too keen on KJ's hair...
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72 Anh Nguyen
December 26, 2009 at 10:00 PM
@ RandomTouristX, I really enjoy your analysis, which fits well with the plot development! I also believe that part of the reason why KJ decides to kiss WJ is to run away from JW, from the pain and guilt he feels.
The first arch of the story (childhood) - JW ran away
Second arch - the truth of the brother's dead is out - KJ sort of ran away.
There's mirror in the plot line. It's interesting to see what comes next.
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73 all4movies
December 26, 2009 at 11:56 PM
The kiss with WJ was not the end all of all kisses, but that's ok with me because I want KJ to do it right with JW eventually. At least, that's my hope.
Let's see if he can "bring it" to his first love like Cha Seung Won did to Kim Sun Ah.
I still shiver when I remember the "moment(s)".
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74 sophie
December 27, 2009 at 12:16 AM
I agree, wooyoung has my respect. Thank you for the recap :)
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75 serendipity
December 27, 2009 at 1:37 AM
Yay! A Song Joong-ki sighting! We just can't get enough of the boy.
@ 27 lidge fan
@ ripgal
@ 51 sscrumb
@ 55 RandomTouristX
I like all your analysis! (and JB's, of course). Lots of interesting insights. Because this (frankly trite) melodrama is eliciting so much discussion, I have to admit it's probably a little more than the common run of the mill.
Myself, I'm ok with JW being a nervous wreck, and the nervous bingeing and petulance makes sense to me (as far as anything makes sense here). I didn't take it that she was in danger of dying from indigestion, but that if she forced herself to accept what she can not and should not accept, she would do herself ill. What I find harder to understand is how men could still find her so irresistible. Me, when I'm a nervous wreck and petulant, they run a mile.
Verdict: Ah, the formula is working hard for its money. Enjoyably predictable episode (in a perverse sense of "enjoyment").
We are locking into our Tragic gears here. The ubiquitous brain tumour (why does everyone have a brain tumour? Why doesn't anyone have, oh, I don't know, a hernia?). TJ shifting into full Anti-OTP gear. The Voice of Doom (the professor) ringing out trenchantly. People selling their souls for money to save their parents (doesn't anyone in Korea have health insurance?) The faked embrace leading to the Hateful-breakup-but-really-it's-for-your-own-good scenario. What cliches are we still lacking? Oh yes! The snow, the snow! It must snow, so that we can die tragically in it.
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76 an on imus
December 27, 2009 at 5:26 AM
i am officially giving up/dropping this drama. the story is getting weird, too many cliches, acting not as great anymore as in the earlier episodes. but my main complaint is go soo's facial expression. i know this is a melodrama, and i do agree that go soo is good-looking, but i am getting fed up with his stony-eyed stare and stony facial expression. I can't stand to see his stony facial expression anymore... it's ruining the Christmas season for me.... maybe this is the wrong time to watch this drama.....
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77 joeydragonlady
December 27, 2009 at 7:52 AM
Why do I keep having visions of You're Beautiful with TK kissing HY with
that final shot? I am kinda iffy about this series after the light and
funny YAB.
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78 Biscuit
December 27, 2009 at 8:11 AM
@72: Butterball
I'm pretty sure that KJ kiss WJ not to runaway from JW, but to deliberately make JW hate KJ.
It goes along with TJ's words at the end where he said:
"Ji-wan can’t let go of you. Even if that dummy kills herself like this, she won’t let you go. So you let go. You stop it. Please."
This was KJ's way of trying to push JW away on her own will, to have her own mind to let go.
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79 RandomTouristX
December 27, 2009 at 9:55 AM
@Biscuit
According to the professor. JW's illness was caused by the fact she can't bring herself to blame KJ therefore blame herself entirely instead. Keeping it all in, bottled it all up. This amount of stress and self hating can bring death. While her head knows she can't possibly like someone who caused her brother's death, her heart couldn't let him go (esp after KJ's brief but deadly charming seduction. ) Her head and heart are not in synch.
Therefore KJ's subsequent last minute decision can be interpreted as
".... don't hate yourself, hate me instead, don't suffer, let me suffer instead. It is easier if you blame me entirely. Make it my fault, i am responsible. I am not worth you to suffer all the heart ache alone. Don't see me or meet with me. you might have a chance of getting over this. Let me take the burden off you. I will give up my chance of happiness for you to forgive yourself and let go to have a normal life with a man you love. You deserve better... "
It might be cliche 101 but it really worked for me.
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@ serendipity
One can interpret all Korean drama as trite, it s hardly real life, but it is all about perspective. One man's junk is always someone else's treasure. However given the writer had taken the trouble to do something more than conventional while still able to exploiting established convention for a genre she herself had made popular. I can't help but to want to understand the interesting characters she had made so real a bit more from all the clues she has given. Her characters had depth and motivation and no cheap story lines (despite yes the odd brain tumour here and there.)
For me, WISFC is a classic melodrama from a master writer of melodramas. Sure, its own shares of cliches but is way the whole package delivered, flavored, decorated and presented which makes it great. Like anything, it is not perfect, but it does hits the right emotional spots. The bulk of the story line is actualy fairly simple, but it is how much it draws and moves it mattered.
I once read a review that said a cliches used here and there are lazy contrivances that lacked in originality, however when used many times in balance and perfectly harmony, it has the marks of a master's beautiful symphony. I believe WISFC has some lyrical quality that represent the best of the classic melodrama genre. It also had its own evolutionary spin. Like many instances of each new episode shows us a different perspective of the exact same scene and timeline, it ended up creating other shades of emotions and enriched the characters.
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80
December 27, 2009 at 1:37 PM
I'm sorry, I just woke up and am being horribly lazy by replying to javabeans' last comment without reading all of the comments after it. I am sorry if I repeat what people have said.
I like what JB said about not sticking her with bulimia just because she binged a couple of times. However, from the sounds of it (I can't watch it because my internet's too slow, so I'm relying on recaps), the drama has made reasonably clear connections about JW dealing with stress by eating. The fact that she eats single-mindedly until she throws up is like an act of self harm in itself, regardless of what label it has. If she is doing this as an uncontrollable reaction to stress, I would think it fair to say she has an unhealthy problem, and that KJ is the cause of the stress which causes this problem, so he must ignore her. That makes a sort of sense to me (even though they should be dealing with the problem, not just the trigger).
It seems though, that the drama is treating JWs overeating as a direct reaction to KJ and her guilt, ignoring all the other outside factors causing her to foodsplode.. I feel so silly trying to analyse this without being able to watch it, but my point is that maybe JW could have been portrayed to have a legit problem, but that the drama is twisting that a bit to make the couple heart-achingly separate again?
...if that makes sense.
Anyway, forgive me, for I have committed many thread-etiquette sins in commenting without either watching the drama myself or reading all the previous comments, but I had to drop in my 2 cents =p
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81 Ina
December 27, 2009 at 2:17 PM
Dear DB,
Thank you for your wonderful synopsis. Peptol Bismol cracked me up for several minutes. I found this episode difficult to process and it probably had to do with the fact that I didn't like the direction the writer was taking me. It certainly helps to know I wasn't alone with this sentiment. I really enjoyed reading everyone's input here in the commentary section.
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82 eiko
December 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM
Okay dokay......so now we have a typical drama setting with the lead actor kissing the 2nd female lead with his eyes open and tears falling! I am now confused about what is going on with the lead female and her feelings....which makes me think she might be emotionally unstable. She looks like a zombie right now.....totally without any energy.
I guess I'll end up following this anyway cause I'm curious as to how they will all get out of it!
Happy New Year everyone!
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83 eiko
December 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM
By the way....another thing I noticed.....the finger healed?
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84 cooniya
December 27, 2009 at 7:27 PM
Guh! Just when I thought I found my new drama addiction. I mean, seriously, what was up w/ this episode?! It was such a big mess and just all over the place! Kang-in's mom finds out she might be terminally ill only for Ji-wan's father to find out he has a brain tumor...Kang-in resigns then Tae-joon gets fired...and then there's Ji-wan. Blah! Do I stop while I can get out, or stick it out since I'm already half-way through???
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85 Kay
December 27, 2009 at 11:54 PM
The whole over-eating part was very random and I have a feeling it was just something to show that Ji Wan can't handle being around Kang Jin.....but they just did it in a different way...I HIGHLY doubt they're going to play up on this more than this episode.....so in the end, it was kinda stupid to being with....
but damn, GO SOO is so fine..makes up for the things lacking in this drama ~LOL
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86 celestialorigin
December 28, 2009 at 1:11 AM
Don't know about this.. At this point I'm just watching it for Amazingly expressive Goo Soo. It just is not convincing enough here... The girl playing Ji Wan is not happening to me, sorry. Yep, Peptol Bismol! An easy way out of this mess.
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87 celestialorigin
December 28, 2009 at 1:26 AM
P.S. I have to admit boy Kang-jin and Ji-yong scene is absolutely adorable. On the other hand, one of my problems here is their childhood and adulthood appearances are so different that my brain is not exactly accepting them as same people. Meantime, I'm still watching... Goo Soo power! How can I leave him behind?
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88 serendipity
December 28, 2009 at 1:59 AM
@79 RandomTouristX
Oh, I do agree with you! (And I love the way you describe the lyricism and presentation of this drama.) I'm not quite getting into the proper spirit of the melodrama, I realise. And I've even wondered whether I should just stop posting my flippant comments.
Because, despite my mocking, I *am* watching this faithfully. And seeing that I can't stand Winter Sonata and other classic melodramas, I think that's saying something. Maybe my grudging esteem iss hard to tell from my irreverent comments. But, you know what, I think the meta, don't-take-this-too-seriously approach is the way to go for me personally. Because if I take the whole thing too seriously, I think I might well throw up my hands in despair and give up (as I think some posters are on the verge of).
Here's my much less elegant analysis: It's like reading a romance novel. To get through it, I have to severely lower my expectations and taking an ironic (but *affectionately* ironic) approach. Otherwise I would fling the book aside at the first cliche or logic fail. So I have to be in a frame of mind to appreciate the cliches. And the romance novels I do plough through are exactly how you describe this drama -- they follow the conventions (they must: otherwise the romance would not be a romance, or the melodrama would not be a melodrama), but there is an extra something that enlivens the tired old cliches or even takes them up to the next level, without abandoning them altogether.
On the whole, I think this drama is doing a good job (so far). I've seen much worse - plotlines which would not hold up for a moment under the scrutiny we have subjected WiSC to!
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89 chajjye
December 28, 2009 at 6:36 AM
reading ur recaps bout this show...makes me want to watch this!
ok, so go soo has his part to play. XD
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90 Brandi
December 28, 2009 at 10:32 AM
Tae-joon and Woo-jung's stories were so beautiful in this ep--and wonderfully executed. This is definitely a turning point about my feelings for him. I mean, I won't be rooting for him, but at least I'm not like 'get this dude out of the drama, please!'
As for Ji-wan's illness, I may be one of the few people who liked the idea. Esp. since they reused a plot device from earlier at her engagement party. I hate it when kdramas (any show really) throw in details here and there and never mention it again. "Oh yeah that dude is really good at blah blah blah." So?
... However, it was poorly executed in this ep. Kang-jin needs to go away for Ji-wan to get better? Uh ... no. It's not a physical illness; it's a mental one that is manifesting physically. The problem isn't Kang-jin, but Ji-wan's conflicted feelings. Horrible, horrible execution.
And yeah, kissing another woman in front of the true love has been overused. Like the amnesia thing. Seriously now, whenever I'm watching a show and a character gets amnesia, I drop it right away. UNLESS it's played off for laughs or really well like Prince Who Turns Into a Frog. I'm crossing my fingers because the scene hasn't ended yet, but I hope that someone does SOMETHING--like #35 suggested. But judging from the previews, that isn't very likely.
Speaking of previews, Go Soo .... No! What did they do to your hair? And why? Why would you make my husband look like that? Director, I promise I won't be mad if you make use of the dream sequence motif. In fact, I will love you forever. Please don't do this to Go Soo. How's about giving Tae-joon a new haircut?
And of haircuts, what is up with Go Soo's styles this ep? He had like 4 different hairstyles. In one ep? Seriously?
Now. Hold. Up. Is Ji-wan's father in Smile, You? I'm watching that as I'm writing this and going 'Hey! It's that dude!"
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91 RandomTouristX
December 28, 2009 at 10:40 AM
@88 serendipity
Oh please don’t stop posting on my account, lol… I am just another voice on the forum ranting on about a show that I think deserves a bit more explanation/ interpretation to be truly appreciated. I am also aware how raving about something can easily missed the big picture, and frankly at half way point, it could very well go down hill from here.
Actually I thought I’d also mention why I think JW is a really interesting character and have been played well even it is not glaringly obvious. In fact JW and WJ are such extremes in both character and in interpretation, it requires a bit more careful assessment to judge whether one has been interpreted better than another. Unlike most, I find the actress that played WJ have over acted in several scenes when it is not necessarily required. It is bit more in your faces sort of acting, spoon feeding as I’d like to call it, which I am not the best fan of. At times it is almost like watching an episode of Queen Seon-deok where you have the arched eye brow, the campy laugh, and the camera dramatically zoomed in on the character during key moments and the evasive thumping music suddenly glaring in the background. It is a bit camp for my taste.
Compare with HYS who has the more laid back approach with a performance with I thought was much subtle and full of nuances which I think is quite fitting with the character – even it is not immediately obvious. Many people commented on the fact she looked a bit fake and awkward at certain scenes, I’d argue that is the whole point.
If you look back from the adult JW, it is often quite easy (at least for me), to know whether when she is faking an outward cheerful brave persona as oppose to how she really feels or is. Every now and then she does break this persona character and to reveal the painful and pathetic JW. In fact where HSY’s acting really shines are during when she doesn’t speak or there aren’t many scripted lines.
A number of scenes come to mind
1. The opening wedding when she announced the wedding has been cancelled but it would be much better next time including dancing(fake), to her stunned face (real) with quick recovery meeting KJ after all these years, and then her cold retort in the mirror (real) at the toilet while recovering from puking up when KJ asked do you know me? Probably hating the fact she looks so pathetic to the last person she wants to reveal this to in the whole world.
2. When she suffered sweating relating to something and had to lay down on the floor to recover from her med school, she told the professor everything is fine, she is fine (fake JW)
3. When she was drunk telling TJ about her brother, she still try to put on a brave front (fake JW), many have said she looks awkward and unconvincing. To me, that is because she doesn’t believe it herself and the only way to heal is play down how painful it has all been rather than confessing or admitting that she has been responsible.
4. KJ Finding JW outside his door looking at the milk carton, it is very clear when she does’t mean what she says compares to how truly feels. The expression is awkward in this case is warranted..
5. When KJ confronted her at the café with “Who does she think she is, how dare she walked into his life…” while being moved to pieces he found she had the pendant all these time. Her stunned look is of paralysis, embarrassment, apologetic devastation, but with such sense of relief with a hint of hopefulness, like the world had been lifted from her shoulders of 8 years of lying.
It was also the expression similar to a reformed naughty child who finally confessed doing something very bad to their parent., worrying that they will no longer receive love or forgiveness ends up finding that the parent still love them after all. Other actress might have a different take, but I really like the simplicity. It is a case of less is more for me.
There are many other instances like the date scenes which indicate how she act is not how she really feels. JW is a character is conflicted and in my opinion emotionally handicapped. She never talks about how she truly feels. In fact she always seems to say the exact opposite to put on a brave front. She has a tendency to be defensive (probably due to low self esteem), to cover things up when inside she is torn apart. This happened since teenage years, note that scene when she confronted her imaginary dead brother when she ran away, that she wasn’t sorry for his death and is angry why he hasn’t kept his promise.
Many posters have commented that there’s a lack of emotion in certain scenes when there’re shoud be turning up the water works, I actually think it would be a mistake to do so. JW has also been crying for 8 years, the tears would have been dried by now, and some trepidation, reluctance and the look fo remorseful devastation would be enough for me to indicate she has already punished herself enough and she is very sorry, so much so she already given up any sense of redemption.
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92 mj07
December 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM
RandomTouristX -
Thanks for bringing out all the scenes HYS has performed her role excellently! I have to agree, she's playing it true to her character! When you mentioned the fact she can never talk openly about her feelings — not even to the ghost of her brother — I was reminded of how even when as teens when KJ confronted JW about her feeling for him she completely clammed up. All she had to do was say "yes", but she ran away. And later (after the death of her brother) when he confesses to her, she says exactly the opposite of what she feels. Her emotional handicap (imagine what her home life was like with that mother!) was in place long before she met KJ and her brother drowned, though, so it's no surprise as an adult she continues with this pattern.
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93 annie
December 29, 2009 at 12:19 AM
@ 88 serendipity: I love your analogy of a romance novel. I think on some level all kdrama is like a romance novel - I mean that in a fond way, although I've made fun of my share of them. Because drama, especially melodrama, plays on those basic, gut emotions that we all feel: love, loss, betrayal, anger, etc. Emotions that are so universal that these cliched situations we see in dramas somehow still work, even as we deplore them as unoriginal - because everyone would feel feel the same sense of betrayal when the person they love chooses someone else, for example. Sometimes - often - writers take the lazy route because it's such an obvious reaction on the part of the viewer, but when it's written intelligently, and acted sincerely, that's when it gets you right through the heart. As for WiSFC, I definitely felt that in the first two episodes. After that... well, I'm still watching. Mostly for Go Soo, but I was impressed with HYS' acting in recent episodes, especially 8. She's getting better.
Favourite Go Soo moment in this episode: when he takes her face in his hands and promises he'll see her every day from now on. That they've got nothing but time. (Although the cynical part of my brain was noting how many times he made that promise, and extrapolating exactly how unlikely that is to actually happen, lol.)
I also love the teenage actors more than the grown-up ones. The scene with young KJ and Ji Yong killed me. That moment when JY asks if KJ can promise him not to ever hurt JW, and he looks up, smiles, and holds out his hand for a pinky promise... knowing what was going to happen to the three of them soon, and then seeing the two boys smile so happily at each other... I started crying at that moment.
Also, I know the scene in the hospital was super-serious, but the professor cracks me up. I laughed so hard when he was like "You look more agonized than the other guy. Are you three in a love triangle?"
@ 91 RandomTouristX: Yes, I agree! All of the scenes you mentioned. And that scene where she goes to the company lobby to ask him out was really well done. The way she looks devastated by TJ's (mean and manipulative!) words, and then sees KJ, turns and walks away a few steps, then steels herself and goes to KJ. The body language was excellent. And then when she actually asks him out, it's sad and sweet but mostly just pathetic. I felt as sorry for her as KJ seemed to from his expression. HYS did a really good job of acting as if JW was forcing herself.
Sorry for the long and late post! Thanks for the recap, as always JB, from a habitual lurker! :)
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94 giddygirl108
December 29, 2009 at 11:32 AM
Thanks again for the recaps! I agree with you on the over-eating and the overly melodramatic handling of it in separating the two lovers. I can understand it...but it just seems weak. I could see a separation if Ji-wan somehow let her ditzy side overtake the boundaries (aka trying too hard to make everything perfect) and having her hurt herself in some way (although I'm not sure in which way...I'm no k-melodrama writer). Or maybe that she reconnects with her parents and then the renewed guilt of her brother dying through that connection induces her to avoid Kang-jin? Pick family or Kang-jin???? Hhhhmm...
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95 cathy
December 31, 2009 at 8:06 PM
I'm confused regarding lead female character ,is she supposed to be depressed from childhood trauma or mental retarded ? If the character is mental retarded then
her acting is excellent , but if she is mental retarded how can she enter medical
school ?
When you experience with stress , psychological trauma you likely suffer in two
ways , totally depressed , taking medications , in and out hospital frequently , unlikely you are able to function well and another form of depression , even being depressed but wellcontrolled by medications , counselling and meditation , you still able
to overcome after few years but not 8 years .Most people can overcome their
depression after seeing their problems clearly ,and learn how to deal with , to
forgive the past . Especially high functional careers , unlikely depressed persons
able to perform properly .
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96 Rick @ Black Forest Cuckoo Clocks
January 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM
I've been visiting your blog for a little while now and wanted to comment on how much I enjoy your work.
I hope you keep posting on this subject.
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97 Amarena
January 1, 2010 at 4:28 PM
Just now I had to watch this ep. three times in a row. The first time I was mad over the whole "she could die if she keeps eating and throwing up!" issue. Just like you said, I'm willing to let it pass if they don't use it again. The second time, I released that, indeeed, Han Ye Seul may be too weak an actress to play the part of Ji Wan. At first I liked her because she's really pretty, and I was glad to see that she was able to live up to my expectations after young Ji Wan's actress, but now I accept her only because I love how Kang Jin loves her. Well, Han Ye Seul isn't ued to characters like Ji Wan, so I can only hope she will grow during this drama.
The third time was both the most tiring, and the most rewarding one. I got to see things that I had totally missed before. I'll just mention one, and that is Woo Jung. I always liked her, but she was still just "the love rival" of Ji Wan. Rather than pitying Tae Joon, I feel for Woo Jung, such a strong yet vulnerable woman.
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98 Esther
January 2, 2010 at 8:47 PM
Uhm, i wouldn't say HYS is a bad character for JW, it's just she's not there yet. What im saying is that she's not a complete disappointment to the character, you know actress got to endure the character....ah! i don't know. But stop bashing how she seems so flat.
But this is like that big turn up of the series. I mean KW is finally coming up to sense of what TJ said that to "let her go" and he is by kissing WJ.
its a really good episode.
I'm kinda pissed at the same time, i know its kdrama, just got to live with it, but it makes me mad sometimes *~* ;
Can't wait for the next recap!!!!!
YAY :D <3
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99 shinhyesungluv
January 4, 2010 at 5:05 PM
PEPTO BISMOL was genius:D
Thank you Javabeans!
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100 day
January 4, 2010 at 10:22 PM
I dont think KJ is leaving her because shes going to have indigestion every time she sees him. I think his thinking about the bigger picture, meaning shes going to remember her brother in his presence and will suffer because of it. To say that the lovers are being separated because of indigestion and that pepto bismol can solve it is not entirely accurate.
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