Question: To post or not to post
by javabeans
With the recent death of actress Jang Ja-yeon, we can expect to see a flood of paparazzi photos of celebrities paying their respects to the deceased. Every time a celebrity suicide occurs, I feel conflicted about (1) the press’s intrusion and the media spectacle this inevitably presents, and (2) posting about it.
I’m betting it’ll be particularly frenzied this time, as the cast of Boys Before Flowers attend her wake; I’m already seeing photos. So, I’ll leave it to you: Do you want me to post those pics, or not?
Tags: bloggy, Jang Ja-yeon
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1 seriously!
March 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM
post their photos nonetheless, but i hope people will not comment on how HOT so and so was at the wake of Jang Ja-yeon.
RIP to her.
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2 ellie
March 7, 2009 at 3:47 PM
I second the motion
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3 natasha
March 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM
i third that motion
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4 Jo
March 7, 2009 at 3:59 PM
Even on happy occasions like a wedding I'm in two minds but when it's a funeral especially for a suicide I really think a degree of respect is warranted. I can't help but think about how I would feel if it was the death of someone I cared about.
But really all that means is I wont read the articles, it's my choice to click or not. Blog away Javabeans :-D
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5 Gabby
March 7, 2009 at 4:04 PM
Most of the celebrities treat these wakes as photo ops. It's disgusting. Don't contribute to the media circus that's profiting from a actress's tragic death.
This event should be treated as a private ceremony for the actress's CLOSE friends and family to mourn, not some red carpet spectacle. You post pictures of famous celebrity arrivals to see the who's who of the entertainment industry and judge what they're wearing...is there any place for that at a wake? We already know that the celebrities will be wearing all black and putting on their "appropriately mournful" faces while they SLOWLY walk past the paparazzi.
I'm not saying that NONE of the celebrities attending are sincere, but come on, everyone knows what this is.
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6 bechedor79
March 7, 2009 at 4:07 PM
Third option? It's tasteless, and yet I find myself clicking anyways. It's like passing a car accident, yeah? Can't help but look? When I have more self-control, I don't, but other times...
I have a feeling I'd look, even though I don't watch BBF.
But I think that your posting this at all would indicate that you do have some reservations--so maybe you shouldn't. If people want to find the pictures, they'll find them.
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7 C_Janeth
March 7, 2009 at 4:12 PM
DON"T POST.
Like #6 says, If people want to find the pics , they will find them.
At this time I think what little respect we can have for the family and the diseased would be much better than posting who went and what they said.
I, for one, think a post of her life and work would be more appropriate.
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8 xoxcinderellaxox
March 7, 2009 at 4:14 PM
OMG...
When I saw the news, those were my first words accompanied by a hanging jaw...
R.I.P Jang Ja-yeon...
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9 lenrasoon
March 7, 2009 at 4:28 PM
if you post i'll read it (i voted for yes btw) but in the end it's your blog and if you decide not to post i will totally understand that, because yeah it's tasteless but i can't help to see pictures and be curious about it, i can't even understand why...
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10 etsy
March 7, 2009 at 4:39 PM
DON'T POST. I just don't think we should contribute to this culture of gawking at celebrities' photos during someone's funeral
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11 ndegeocello
March 7, 2009 at 4:44 PM
Every other gossip blog is going to post them, so don't. You're better than that.
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12 Carolyn
March 7, 2009 at 4:47 PM
Although I voted yes, after reading #7's suggestion, it seems more appropriate and consistent with your style. Although, I have to say, that picture of Lee Eon they selected for his funeral will always be the final image I have of him, and I was always glad you posted up his funeral pictures because of that. If you could post up images like that -- focusing on JJY instead of the celebrity attendants -- that would be a much better compromise.
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13 Javabeans
March 7, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Thanks for the input, everyone. For what it's worth, I voted no in my own poll, so you can kinda see where I'm heading with this... But I did want to get everyone's opinions and see where the consensus fell.
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14 Lena
March 7, 2009 at 4:51 PM
don't post.
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15 K
March 7, 2009 at 5:09 PM
If you do, could you put it under a cut? I like coming here, but I don't really want to see the pictures. I find it disrespectful in a way (not that YOU are) but some of your readers want to see it so I can see where you would want to put them up.
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16 lidge_fan
March 7, 2009 at 5:12 PM
I don't think it's necessarily tasteless but rather not see it so 1 no vote from me *sigh* such a tragic thing :(
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17 Bekah
March 7, 2009 at 5:21 PM
Well, I voted yes, but I think a better way to handle the picture thing could be to simply post links to the images so people can decide for themselves if they want to go look at them. That way your readers who would like to see the pictures can readily see them, and your readers who would rather not see them don't have to scroll through the images to read your post.
As for the post, I think a nice overview of what JJY had accomplished or something of the like would be nice.
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18 Bradamante
March 7, 2009 at 5:27 PM
Pain is a private feeling.
Please, respect for the suffering.
Sarah, don't post.
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19 el
March 7, 2009 at 5:30 PM
@Gabby #5
You're being incredibly unfair and judgmental. I think the only people who deserve any criticism for this "media circus" is the media itself. The celebrities wear black because that's what is expected, and I don't know that it's so much their slow walk as it is the dozens of cameras popping flash at them to snatch up pictures.
In Korea, even for a non-celebrity, there are people who may not be "CLOSE friends and family" that attend the wakes; many acquaintances and colleagues attend to show their sorrow. In fact, for a lot of celebrities that have even shallow connections, it would be considered rude not to appear.
Honestly, at least in the blogs and forums I read, I have never once read someone commenting on how good someone looks, or on what someone is wearing in these kinds of situations. So I don't know man, it seems like you may be the only know who "knows what this is"
And @Javabeans, I think if you yourself don't feel comfortable, there's no question of whether you should do it or not
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20 Jes
March 7, 2009 at 5:40 PM
RIP Jang Ja Yun. It's really hard to see and get over the fact that Korean stars will end their life this way. Even though I really want to see the pictures, I have to say no to give respect for the grieving family.
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21 ed
March 7, 2009 at 6:02 PM
Rest in Peace, Jang Ja-yun. (and I applaud you Javabeans for running this informative space with utmost care and tasteful compassion.)
While it's far more informative to see a photo gallery of a deceased actor's career retrospective (like they had with Choi Jin-sil and Kim Heung-ki), I realize it is not always possible to arrange for every departure.
Seeing photos of celebs attending funeral will give some fans closure. For me it's getting harder not to feel the photo-opp may be the only show of solidarity and support some actors/entertainers got during their trouble (through no fault of the attendees, but still...) sigh.
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22 new-s
March 7, 2009 at 6:11 PM
Thanks for NOT posting.
Celebrity or no celebrity, we're talking about a suicide death. It's sad and tragic.
Let's respect their suffering and give them SPACE and PRIVACY during this difficult time and show our support w/o having to see photos.
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23 Jay
March 7, 2009 at 6:28 PM
Don't post the pics, they'll be every where else. It's tragic what happened to this lady. I really don't care to see the focus being put on who went.
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24 lime
March 7, 2009 at 6:33 PM
eepies, i hit yes and then saw how it was triple the percentage of no's, and i suddenly desperately wish i hadn't voted yes. is that morbid of me? i dont read many other korean entertainment sites, so seeing them 'everywhere' isnt an issue for me.
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25 kushibo
March 7, 2009 at 6:40 PM
Javabeans, the very fact that you even thought about this shows that whatever you present will almost certainly be tasteful and appropriate.
Let's face it, you have a blog on Korean pop culture, and this is part of it. You are reporting on the vultures, not making money off being one.
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26 Jihwan
March 7, 2009 at 7:30 PM
Regardless of whether or not you post those pictures, other news blogs will have it up. However, if it were up to me, I say don't post it. I personally find it desrespectful. We know that she's left this world, and so lets leave it at that. No need to add fuel to the flame. With that being said, RIP Jang Ja-yeon. Best wishes to her family and friends.
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27 betchay
March 7, 2009 at 7:40 PM
Don't post.. too sad & tragic.
Rest in Peace.. JJY
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28 Mari
March 7, 2009 at 7:57 PM
I know the pap pics are not tasteful in the sense they want to catch famous celebs in a moment of weakness for plain profit. Seeing their grief somehow, for me, brings me some closure. Knowing they were loved, and people will miss them. It makes me feel as if the deceased didn't truly fail at life like she thought she may have. It is not that I want to invade the privacy of the mourners, I just want to mourn with them, empathize with them.
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29 daffodil
March 7, 2009 at 8:00 PM
Respect the family.
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30 ktbrods
March 7, 2009 at 8:03 PM
Ultimately, it is your choice. I don't think I would like to see the pictures, but if I wanted to, I'm sure I could find them elsewhere. I like coming to read your posts because its interesting and intelligent. If I wanted to look at 'razzi pics I would go to other sites.
Thank you for bringing attention to this issue.
P.S. This makes me remember the Ahn Jae-Hwan pictures. There seemed to be no humanity or sense of respect for the deceased or the family in the surrounding media blitz/coverage, it gave me chills...
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31 K4Ice4Thu
March 7, 2009 at 8:11 PM
It is ultimately up to you Javabeans, but I'm glad that you asked us for our opinion. Like someone posted above, they are all over the internet by now and it won't take much to find them.
I personally would rather not see them - it makes me feel like I'm intruding. Although by going to soompi's thread, I've already become a hypocrite)
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32 Winnie
March 7, 2009 at 8:26 PM
A touch choice...I admit I'm curious to see the photos. I voted no, though, because it's just not necessary. Those who want to see the photos should definitely be able to find them.
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33 bspanda
March 7, 2009 at 8:28 PM
Javabeans - the fact that you are conflicted about this very sensitive issue, further illustrates how thoughtful a person you are. And why I am a proud reader/fan of this blog. Your blog is not just about the 'news'.
I voted no - but have to confess (and honestly quite disgusted with myself) that yes the curiousity factor was/is there, eg wanting to see the BBF cast etc. Then remembered that someone has DIED. Privacy and respect is needed.
Regardless Javabeans - you do what you think is right for you. Whatever it is, as someone mentioned, it would be tastefully done. It would be my conscience whether I choose to look.
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34 vkdim
March 7, 2009 at 8:55 PM
It's your blog so in the end, so it is your decision. You're clearly uncomfortable with it so I don't think it's fair for people to ask you to do this when they have plenty of other sources.
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35 thunderbolt
March 7, 2009 at 9:01 PM
I think you should go with your conviction. If you feel conflicted (and this is not the first time you've expressed this), then why not just follow your feelings? It'll send an important message that this is no occasion for media (or blog) intrusion.
I voted no, by the way.
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36 mare
March 7, 2009 at 9:08 PM
I can't believe over 1,000 people voted...myself included. Wow! You have a lot of readers Java :p
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37 Jo
March 7, 2009 at 9:20 PM
lol when I went to bed last night there was less then 100 votes, this morning there's well over a 1000 but the percentages are still the same. Tough choice Javabeans.
Why am I posting nonsense in the early hours of the morning? Because my foot really hurts and the ambulance is taking forever.
I'm not really LOL-ing.
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38 chajjye
March 7, 2009 at 9:29 PM
do what is best to ur conscience. if you feel that it will be disrespectful, then save it. if ppl are interested, they will find ways to get the pictures.
this feels like crap really. i hope there's no more suicides in korea or even anywhere for that matter.
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39 Kit
March 7, 2009 at 9:46 PM
I too voted no. Like others have said, people who want to see the photos can find them. Good on you for considering not feeding the media frenzy.
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40 Jessica
March 7, 2009 at 10:15 PM
This is my first time posting here and it's really all up to you like some of the previous people said because it is YOUR blog.
For me, when these wakes occur, I just like seeing who goes, seeing who the late actor/actress was friends with. Though I never knew celebrities came to these as photo-ops from the paparazzi but yeah..
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41 KTV
March 7, 2009 at 10:32 PM
Whether or not posting it, it's your decision Dramabeans. For me, as your reader, I respect your insight. I did vote yes btw. It's just the fact that I want to see how people care others. Those photos, at least, give you the warmth of humanity between actors and actresses. Jang Ja Yeon, RIP.
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42 cosmopolite
March 7, 2009 at 10:34 PM
It seems a lot of people voted no from the comments but the poll shows a overwhelming yes.
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43 applesauce
March 7, 2009 at 11:53 PM
JJY chose to be an actress and chose to end her life this way. She knew very well what would happen (including having the entire celebrity BOF cast attend her funeral).
People who choose to leave this world never stop to think about how much pain they are putting their loved ones and friends through. Suicide is quite selfish.
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44 petals
March 7, 2009 at 11:58 PM
I voted no. If people really wanted to look at the pictures, they can find it on other blogs and on soompi.
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45 tripple
March 8, 2009 at 12:20 AM
I've seen the photos eventhough I couldn't understand what was written. Anyway, personnally I think, the photos showed the crew members really care about each other and griefs were shown on their faces. No glamorous affairs, only the usual visits of a wake...
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46 snoopyvkd
March 8, 2009 at 12:32 AM
Why don't you post just the links for those who are interested?
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47 jasmine
March 8, 2009 at 12:37 AM
a lot of other sites have already posted up the pictures.
no point reposting them again and again
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48 Abby920
March 8, 2009 at 1:46 AM
It's up to you Sarah, it would be up to us if we want to see and read about it or not. Personally, I will not even take a peek to show my respect to her family and her close friends that mourns her.
Thanks for asking Sarah.
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49 atiras
March 8, 2009 at 3:38 AM
as a matter of interest?
Interest does not mean information. It is not something that gives us information, so, as a hedonist activity, there is no need to post if you do not feel like it, if you do not enjoy it......
It is like going to Sunday church just to check who is there.
vote: no
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50 k
March 8, 2009 at 3:59 AM
i can understand where most of the readers are coming from about respecting privacy; the mourners aren't here to walk down a red carpet and pose for photos in their grief. but while i don't think the sensitivity you're displaying in handling this issue is wrong, i do feel it borders a bit on excessive tiptoeing. i think this invasion of privacy is almost at the same level as posting photos/articles about which celebrity is dating which one, which we all seem to endorse. it's our way of getting closer to the celebrities. and if we look at death clearly without elevating it, it's a destination we will all get to anyway. the truth is, there's nothing private about death. you die and everyone knows it. they want to know the circumstances, the reasons..
furthermore, i sometimes can't help feeling that grief and mourning don't necessarily have to be exclusive. if people snap photos of mourners outside the location so that other people elsewhere can look at the photos and share in the grief, then that isn't so bad is it? the real invasion would be to bring cameras into the space where she is laid out. to add on to that, i think if there weren't any photographers/reporters present, that might have been worse. it highlights the fact that her death was partially over something that was true - that she wasn't famous enough. i think the family might feel better knowing that so many people care and want to know.
i apologise if i sound unfeeling or unclear, i'm still trying to sort out what it is i really feel about things like this. and reading the comments have roused some sort of indignation in me, though i have to admit that it seems more acceptable to look at photos when someone has passed away in an accident as opposed to a suicide. and to end off this really long comment, the main point is how comfortable you feel about the whole issue, isn't it? (:
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