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Boys Before Flowers: Episode 23

I watched Episode 23 with the critical dial turned down and enjoyed much of it — it was cute at points, and touching at others.

Then I turned my brain back on to address the commentary section and found a lot of bothersome points to take issue with. This makes for a somewhat lengthy commentary section today, but I’d like to preface it all by saying that despite the critique, I really did enjoy this episode. I’m watching with fondness, not bitterness, really!

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EPISODE 23 RECAP

Jun-pyo and Jan-di’s zoo date marks their first chance in a long while for quality time, so Jun-pyo asks how she’s been holding up. He tells Jan-di, “I’ll take care of you,” explaining that Witch Mom isn’t the type to let the broken engagement and aborted merger slide — he’s preparing himself for her next assault.

However, Jan-di tells him she doesn’t want to be protected. Jun-pyo balks, because in his mind it’s natural to want to protect her, but Jan-di says, “I don’t like being supported by someone, or protected and taken care of. I’ve received many things from you, F4, and Jae-kyung. I want us to be equals, so I’ll face what I must.”

(And then the boy, Chan, whispers to Jun-pyo for a little bathroom assistance. He is so cute. Jun-pyo rushes him off, and the three enjoy their day at the zoo.)

I really like this walk home, which is characterized by calm contentment. Jun-pyo reflects, “It’s strange, it feels like I’m in a scene in a hazy dream right now.”

The words are spoken casually and Jun-pyo doesn’t mean anything by it, but they sure do make me uneasy. Their walk is cut short by a phone call from Mr. Jung telling Jun-pyo he ought to return home. Jun-pyo isn’t eager to go but he knows he should; he hands over the sleeping boy and reluctantly leaves.

Yi-jung’s studio. He examines the puzzle piece given to him by Eun-jae, and remembers when she’d first given him the present. When he’d asked what the characters meant, she had answered that it indicated “a once in a lifetime fate.” I suppose the point is that if it’s once in a lifetime and he had let her go, like the wind that never returns to the same spot twice, the relationship truly is over.

Ga-eul bursts in, nearly wilting with exhaustion but pleased to announce, “I found it.”

Ga-eul brings Yi-jung to the rooftop of a tall building and points in the distance, just as the rising sun illuminates the city skyline.

The billboards are advertisements for two different products, and when the sun hits, the light breaks and washes out the extraneous parts, leaving only “I love you” and “Yi-jung.”

Ga-eul explains how she came to discover this — three years ago, Eun-jae had asked Yi-jung to meet her at sunrise the next morning. That day’s recorded sunrise had occurred at 7am, so Ga-eul had been tracking down various locations until she found the right one, which displays this message only for a few seconds each day.

I’m sure Yi-jung has guessed the gist of Eun-jae’s message, but seeing it like this hits him hard. He breaks down, overwhelmed with regret, and sobs out wretchedly that he wants a do-over.

Ga-eul lets him cry, but his pained reaction affects her too, as she watches with pity (and probably some hurt feelings at this evidence of how deeply he cared for Eun-jae).

Ji-hoo and his grandfather fish together (while Jan-di prepares the fish stew that Grandpa Yoon likes). Dr. Yoon brings up the death of Ji-hoo’s parents, explaining that he was afraid of losing Ji-hoo as well, which is why he pushed him away. However, he’d thought of it as suffering alone — punishment for his lifelong pride — as though he hadn’t realized that Ji-hoo would misinterpret and shoulder the blame.

With things cleared up now, Grandpa Yoon is at peace, and feels he can die content. He asks Ji-hoo to take over his arts foundation and clinic when he dies.

That’s an idea that Ji-hoo isn’t ready to think about yet, and he doesn’t get much of a chance to protest because Jan-di announces that lunch is ready.

At the pottery studio, Ga-eul arrives with some apprehension, having been called there by Yi-jung. He’s in a much better mood than their last emotion-charged encounter, stomping on a mound of clay, barefoot.

Yi-jung has bad news and good news, then guesses she’s the type to want to hear bad news first, and indicates his right hand. He isn’t sure how it will hold up, and he won’t be as good as he was before. However — and this is the good news — he isn’t going to run away again: “Thanks to a certain someone, I’ve realized how much you can regret something after you’ve given up on it.”

Ga-eul smiles in relief, and he invites her to join him in working with the clay. As they stomp on clay together, she wonders how he knew she’d prefer the bad news first. He replies: “Good girls all want happy endings.”

She stumbles, and he catches her. There’s a brief moment between them, so Yi-jung reminds her, “I may be cool, but I’m not a good guy.” Ga-eul returns that he should get over his misconception that good girls always want good guys.

At that, Yi-jung leans in for a kiss, and Ga-eul closes her eyes… which is when her phone rings.

We don’t hear what the problem is (yet), but it’s bad news from her mother. And unfortunately, this time her bad news isn’t followed by good news or an almost-kiss.

Dr. Yoon’s heart condition is triggered when he receives an upsetting phone call, which sends Jan-di fumbling for his medication. However, Ji-hoo is frozen in shock, and Jan-di’s words all sound muffled to his ears — it’s like he can’t focus on anything, lost in his own fears.

Grandpa’s okay (or as okay as he can be). At the hospital, Jan-di tells Ji-hoo that his grandfather hadn’t wanted him to know, thinking all would be well if he was careful.

Mama Kang is once more on alert. Not only is she still upset about the broken merger, she has seen a TV news report that included footage of Shinhwa Zoo — which happened to include glimpses of the Jun-di date.

Madam Kang’s next plans are so harsh that even Mr. Jung speaks up, reluctant to carry out her orders to proceed. Having seen Jan-di’s attachment to Ji-hoo and Grandpa Yoon, she plans to take advantage of her Achilles heel. Namely, she will retaliate by lashing out at Jan-di’s loved ones, starting with Ji-hoo’s grandfather’s art foundation. She says, “We have to take this opportunity to yank out the roots. It’s fortunate that there’s something more important to that foolish girl than money.”

It works out nicely for her, then, when Jun-pyo comes in with a request. He owns up to the broken engagement and says he’s sorry. However, while their relationship with JK is shaky, it’s not destroyed — he promises to restore the alliance and asks Witch Mom to entrust him with the task. To show he’s serious, he will accept all her rules and restrictions, whether that that includes being followed around or being locked indoors. In exchange for one thing: “Just leave Jan-di alone.”

He’s told her this before, but he’s never really offered up serious collateral, which makes this time different. Mom asks, “You’re saying all I have to do is not do anything to Geum Jan-di?” At his yes, she agrees: “I’ll promise. I won’t lift a finger against her. But don’t forget what you’ve just said.”

Jun-pyo assures her, “Don’t worry,” and leaves with an almost puzzled expression — he was expecting more of a fight, so he’s unnerved by her easy acceptance.

Grandma Housekeeper echoes those sentiments, warning Jun-pyo not to let his guard down: “Don’t you know your mother yet? This isn’t the time to rest.” Granny also wonders how he means to manage Shinhwa when he can’t even watch over his girlfriend:

Granny: “I didn’t raise you to be so pathetic. Just being born male doesn’t make you automatically a man. One must take time — experiencing anger at losing, the injustice of stepping aside, shame at running away — until he can overcome his weak self to finally become a man.”

Jun-pyo finds encouragement in those words, and grabs her in a sudden hug, saying, “Thanks.”

As Jan-di packs Grandpa Yoon’s things to take to the hospital, she comes across a box, which she hands over to Ji-hoo once she realizes what’s inside.

The box contains items from Ji-hoo’s childhood, such as his school backpack and child’s shoes. It also includes a series of drawings of his family, from when he was very young to the present day. Because his parents are in the pictures, I’m guessing this is Dr. Yoon’s own creation (and not based on, say, photos or real life) of how Ji-hoo and his family would have aged over the years.

And then, Madam Kang strikes. First, Ga-eul’s father is forced into early retirement, without warning. Jan-di overhears Woo-bin discussing the matter with Yi-jung, both of whom guess that this is the work of Witch Mom. Rather than hitting at Jan-di directly, she’s exerted her influence with Ga-eul’s father’s company, a Shinhwa subsidiary.

Furthermore, signs indicate that Ji-hoo will be next; it looks like she intends to shut down the art foundation entirely.

This weighs heavily on Jan-di’s mind when she visits Grandpa Yoon, who by the way fires up his matchmaking again by urging the two kids to go out.

(Given his statements to Ji-hoo in the last episode, I’m inclined to believe that Grandpa was pointing out their character differences — that Ji-hoo is too cold for Jan-di’s bubbly personality — rather than trying to drive them apart. But I’m still not entirely sure what his intentions are — whether he really means to marry the kids off or whether he truly feels that Jan-di and Ji-hoo aren’t compatible.)

Ji-hoo spies a piano in the lobby and takes the seat, starting to play. He smiles at Jan-di several times, but she can’t quite return them because she’s preoccupied with the knowledge that his foundation is about to be ruined because of her.

As they walk along the river, Ji-hoo says that he hadn’t ever wanted to protect anything before meeting her. But now, there are more things in his life he wants to protect, such as his grandfather, the foundation… and her.

Just as he says that, his words are drowned out — the bridge lights up and fountains roar to life. It’s kind of hilarious how Ji-hoo, twice thwarted now from making a sincere confession, is so exasperated that he rolls his eyes.

Timing (and therefore fate?) is clearly not on Ji-hoo’s side.

Jan-di, meanwhile, is lost in her own thoughts: “Now that you have your grandfather by your side, I’m glad. You don’t know, do you, that you were always like sunshine to me. Goodbye, Geum Jan-di’s honorary firefighter.”

Why the goodbye? Jan-di’s made a decision in light of recent events. She tells her unconscious patient of her intentions:

Jan-di: “Sir, I don’t think I can keep coming by. I wanted to see you improve and read you more books, but I’m sorry. I can handle being hungry and cold, but there’s one thing I can’t handle — when people I love are hurt because of me. It’s not anything I can fix by working hard. It’s really unfair, isn’t it? I’m not running away, you know that, right? Even without me, you must get healthy.”

Just as Jan-di leaves, his hand moves.

She then visits Madam Kang, but we don’t see the scene play out yet, and instead resume as she’s leaving the meeting. Jan-di walks through Gu Manor, for once not tiptoeing around, instead chatting openly with the housemaids, who wish her well, as well as Granny Housekeeper.

She even calls loudly for Jun-pyo from the hallway, which makes him think at first that he’s hearing voices. Seeing her there, he panics and drags her inside, afraid that she’ll be noticed by Witch Mom, not understanding why she’s being so boisterous.

Jan-di suggests they go on a picnic and outing, as they’d once agreed to do.


(And now I can rest at ease, because Jun-pyo finally sees his Jun-pyo Face Rice!)

The following date is super-cute, although it’s almost so sweet that it makes you worry (or maybe that’s just me? — scenes like this that are so full of contentment always give me a sense of impending doom).

As they walk along the beach, Jun-pyo wonders if this is some kind of special day for her. He’s enjoying it so much that he wishes every day could be like today — after all, she came to him first to ask him out, and they haven’t fought once.

Going with the good feeling, he asks one more thing: “Why haven’t you said that you like me? I’ve told you several times.”

Jan-di: “Do I have to say so in words?”
Jun-pyo: “I want to hear from you what I mean to you.”
Jan-di: “I like you. So much that I couldn’t stop myself even though I tried, and got angry that I couldn’t forget you when I wanted to.”

This time she’s the one who draws him close, surprising him as she pulls him in for a kiss.

On the drive home, Jun-pyo can’t stop smiling, but Jan-di’s expression grows more and more somber. We find out why as she flashes back to her meeting with Madam Kang.

Jan-di had asked Mom to leave Ga-eul and Ji-hoo alone. Ever the cold businesswoman, Mom had asked what Jan-di would do in return, not expecting Jan-di to be able to offer anything worthwhile.

But Jan-di surprises her: “I’ll leave. I’ll leave Jun-pyo. I’ll change schools and homes and go somewhere he can’t find me. Will that do?”

Oh, that’ll do. Madam Kang accepts. Still, Jan-di feels the need to clarify:

Jan-di: “I haven’t lost to you, and I am not running away either. You’re the worst person I’ve ever met. I’m leaving because I don’t wish to connect the ones I love to you. I’m just sorry that I can’t save the one person I love the most from you.”

This explains the date: Today is really a farewell trip for Jan-di. Coming back to the present, she asks Jun-pyo to pull over, then she gets out with her luggage.

He laughs, wondering if she’s planning another surprise event, and doesn’t immediately grasp her meaning when she tells him, “I’m not going to see you again. Today was our last day together.”

He grows more serious but still doesn’t understand, and asks if something happened with his mother. Jan-di answers simply (and coldly), “I’ve decided to remove you from my life.” She tosses out a casual “Thanks for everything. Take care.”

Jun-pyo knows this has to do with his mother, even if she won’t admit it. She contradicts him:

Jan-di: “This time I realized that you and I are from different worlds. We met as though in a dream, but now it’s time for us to return to our own worlds.”
Jun-pyo: “You’re lying. Tell me, I’ll figure it out. I’ll protect you!”

A bus stops, and Jan-di heads to board it. Jun-pyo follows her and asks her not to go: “You said you liked me. Is this what your love is like? You say you like me and end things so easily?”

Leveling a firm gaze at him, Jan-di explains that her love must have had its limit, and she’s reached it: “It must have been exactly this much.”

He asks, “Taking away Shinhwa or my chaebol status, have you ever once just seen me as one man?” Without hesitation, Jan-di responds, “No. No matter how you try, you’re still Shinhwa Group’s Gu Jun-pyo. I’ve never forgotten that for one second.”

Her answer leaves him stunned. He doesn’t snap out of it until she boards the bus and it starts moving, which is when he starts to run after it, yelling for the bus to stop.

Inside, Jan-di cries, looking back as Jun-pyo grows smaller in the distance. She thinks, “After I fell for you, I’d always wished you were a normal man with no relation to Shinhwa. I’m sorry, Gu Jun-pyo, for not keeping my promise. I’m really sorry.”

So Jan-di arrives in the remote fishing town where her family has relocated, and finds her mother in the marketplace. After the initial giddy reunion, however, she’s dismayed to hear that the family situation is no better than it was before — faced with growing debts, Dad had to go away on a boat (to escape debt collectors, I assume?).

Jan-di wishes they’d told her, but they didn’t want to worry her. They didn’t want her to drop out of school to work, which is exactly what she would have done. She has to finish high school and go to university. Because of her mother’s reaction, Jan-di is unable to admit that she’s left Seoul for good, and merely says that she’s here for a family visit.

Meanwhile, Woo-bin and Yi-jung sigh at the way things have changed following Jan-di’s departure. They’ve looked everywhere, but she’s hidden herself well. They’re worried about Jun-pyo, who is apparently acting out worse than he was even in Macau.

Even worse, they fear more for Ji-hoo. He may be getting along with Grandpa, but Yi-jung points out that immersing himself in foundation and clinic work — for a guy who used to laze around napping all the time — is a drastic change.


I suppose the difference between Ji-hoo and Jun-pyo is that the former is internalizing his pain, exerting strict control over himself and his environment, while the latter is all about acting out and losing control. He sinks into self-destructive behavior.

For instance, when being driven home after a drunken night at a club, Jun-pyo sees a toy machine on the street, and recalls the double date when he failed to win Jan-di a toy prize from the claw machine. Now he staggers out, intent on winning the prize.

I was thinking there would be a beautiful sort of irony if he were to succeed now where he failed before — because now he doesn’t have the girl so it would be a pitifully empty victory — but no, Drunk Jun-pyo is not any better than Sober Jun-pyo.

In a rage, he lashes out at the machine, kicking and beating it until he attracts the attention of the police, who arrest him for (I’m guessing) causing a public disturbance. It’s in the holding area of the police station that Jun-hee finds Jun-pyo, staring emotionlessly in the cell, alone.

 
COMMENTS

Before commenting on this episode, let me add a few thoughts on the previous one:

I was reading some of the dissenting opinions on the Jun-di relationship, seeing who sided with Jan-di and who sided with Jun-pyo. It’s probably not fair to charge those who think Jun-pyo acted more understandably with being clouded with Lee Min-ho affection, because (1) Well, yes, I think he’s quite a good actor, but (2) I figure at this point I’ve written enough on this drama, and in enough depth, to escape the tag of judging purely based on a hormonal reaction. (Honestly, y’alls, he’s cute but he ain’t my type.)

Here’s what it boils down to, for me: Both Jun-pyo and Jan-di have been shown, unfortunately, to be weak. This is problematic and has significantly hindered my regard for the second half of the series. I wish both had more backbone and were more forthright about their true feelings. Of course, if they did that and had a functional relationship, we wouldn’t have much of a drama to tune into every week.

Both parties have reneged on promises; both have been guilty of giving the other person mixed messages. Jun-pyo called Jan-di a stain, which is pretty harsh stuff, and obviously Jan-di has a right to be hurt. On the other hand, Jan-di has given Jun-pyo no indication that she wants to be with him following Jae-kyung’s arrival on the scene. She may not feel she’s in the position to do anything about it, but she did actively step back and even aided Jae-kyung in getting together with Jun-pyo — that certainly sends the message that she no longer cares for Jun-pyo. She also said that her promise from Episode 10 is no longer valid.

With that being the case, Jun-pyo has no reason to believe he has a future with Jan-di, and he walks down the aisle believing that his One True Love is over. In real life, we know that we get second chances and that a person can fall in love more than once, but in dramaland and in Jun-pyo’s heart, as he explained to Jae-kyung, he knows that it’s Jan-di or nobody. Therefore the question isn’t “Should I marry Jae-kyung or not?” but rather, “Is there any hope at all for a future with Jan-di? — because if not, I really don’t care about marriage and might as well do this political union.”

Meanwhile, Jan-di has been the poster child for passivity. WE know she loves Jun-pyo, but she sure as hell doesn’t let anyone else know that. As some commenters said, perhaps she’s not in a place to demand a relationship with him, but if she hides all her feelings and mopes privately, well, that’s just wallowing in one’s self-pity. She tends to just accept whatever happens to her, and that frustrates me. Jun-pyo is also weak, but at least his feelings — and his desire to escape from the influence of others — are clear. He’s bad at following through on his feelings, but Jan-di doesn’t even get that far — she keeps hers bottled up and unspoken, and that does nobody any good.

And yes, I recognize it’s a pointless exercise to say who was MORE wrong in this situation — but it’s always fun to do it anyway.

Now, for this episode:

I understand Jan-di’s actions and her rationale for leaving, and I actually kinda agree with her decision. Or at least the reason for her making the decision. However, this plot device suffers from overuse — it’s a tactic used in all those classic (read: outdated) Cinderella kdramas, where the girl selflessly gives up her love — even though the guy is prepared to fight for the relationship — to save those around her.

I suppose we’re supposed to feel admiration and pity for the woman who sacrifices her own happiness for the greater good, but what she’s really doing is taking away the choice from the other person, who deserves to have a say in this. Just as Jun-pyo (wrongly) asserted his will one-sidedly earlier in their relationship, she’s disregarding his feelings under the excuse that “I know what’s best for him.” I hate that.

Now, IF she had believed everything she said before getting on that bus — and I think her words had a point — then I wouldn’t have complaints and would probably back her up. (I think it makes sense on one level to want to say, “I gave it my best shot, got my heart broken a couple times, and want to believe that Love Conquers All — but maybe all this fighting isn’t productive if I’m just fighting a losing battle against this all-powerful, evil force who is going to hurt everyone I love.” It’s not fair, but sometimes you have to think of self-preservation.)

However, that’s not the case here: As we can see from her reaction afterward, she lied purposely to get Jun-pyo to let her go, believing that he didn’t need to know the truth. And that her decision was right no matter what he thought. By the way, they’re both guilty of this — him most notably when he turned Jekyll-and-Hyde in Macau — so it’s not like I’m only blaming Jan-di for the tendency.

I might have let this go otherwise, but it really doesn’t help that PD Jeon’s prior two series also employed this exact same scenario (girl leaves selflessly to spare the guy pain, but in a way that removes his choice from the equation). When Chun-hyang in Delightful Girl Chun-hyang did it, I actually enjoyed the ensuing angst (and the anticipated reunion!), but I watched that series earlier and didn’t have a slew of similar dramas to compare to. Also, Jae Hee really rocked the emotional turmoil in that drama’s breakup and reunion.

In My Girl, I hated the ploy because it seemed like a direct ripoff of Chun-hyang (same director, same writers), plus it seemed more forced into the story for manipulative reasons.

Here, I don’t hate it as much as in My Girl but I think it’s definitely less effective as a plot device than it ought to be, because (1) it’s so overdone at this point, and (2) this whole drama has been full of dramatic angsty moments like this, so this one doesn’t particularly stand out for me.

But on the upside, we’re so very close to the end that all this analysis is really just extraneous stuff. Mostly I’m watching with half my brain turned off, and at least there isn’t enough time to drag this storyline out into as painful an arc as the Jae-kyung one.

 
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As I sit here with the tears streaming down my face, I realize through all the angst, the only way I will end up happy with this drama is if Ji Hoo and Jan Di end up together. Even though I know and believe this is wrong.

55-"Watching this drama is like going through the 7 stages of grief. I’m mostly stuck at anger though."

thank you for making me laugh. I completely agree.

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Thanks for your insightful commentary, Javabeans! I felt like I was the only one that was crying when Yi Jung realizes how much of a retard he is for not showing up three years ago! Poor guy was a wreck! Oh, and when he and Ga Eul were about to kiss, I felt my heart stop, asking myself if they were really going to go through with it...! I'm glad that Jan Di let it be known to Madam Kang that she truly loves Jun Pyo. I really hope someone will shove it into Madam Kang's face that her son is truly a better person because of Jan Di. I have never despised a character as much as I have with Madam Kang. Bravo to the actress who plays her!
I will miss this show terribly when its over! What is life on Mondays and Tuesdays going to be like....? Looking forward to your next recaps!

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Logic, rationality, sense, reality itself--these things rarely, if ever, factor in (for me, at least) when watching shows such as this. It's melodrama, fantasy, idealism all the way. Life has enough day-to-day harsh realities in it and enough necessary rationalising and moralising and crises. LOVE CONQUERS ALL is definitely idealistic--but in real life, it is an ideal that acts as a North Star--a guiding light, a place we know is impossible to reach, but it lights our way, gives us a direction in which to move, in which to aim our thoughts and feelings and actions. SO, in reality--Real Life--the JD and JP, JD and JH, GE and YJ situations and dynamics and outcomes would definitely be radically different--how they feel, how they expres themselves, how they act with one another, how they see and handle things.

But who wants reality?

If I expected these characers to act as I would act and react had these storylines and situations been real-life stoiries and situations, then I would've hoped for "BBF: The Reality Show" - "Ladies and gentlemen, here are two groups of young people from two VERY different worlds and lifestyles. We've brought them all together, randomly, and manipulated various situations to see what happens. Will there be drama? Will there be romance? Will there be... pancakes of misery and rice lunchboxes that look like one of our contestants? Tune in and find out!"

Sure, in a perfect world, everyone gets what they deserve, everyone getes out of life what they put in, and receives the amount of love that they give out. Good people have good things happen to them. Bad people have bad things happen to them. Unfortunately, it's not like that. But Ji-hoo Ji-hoo deserves good things to happen to him... in this ideal world...

Why do fantasies, dreams, ideals, mythologies, legends etc etc MEAN someting to us? Because they trigger something inside ourselves that remind us of that part of us that still has hope in something OTHER or FURTHER or DEEPER than our life's day-to-day reality. My ideal is that love conquers all--or rather, LOVE IS ALL--not wuv, or crushes, not only attraction, or infatuation, or lust, or obsession, or possission, or really close friendship or understanding or nakedness or protectiveness, but ALL those together. Even if the exact opposite is the case in reality, most of the time, that feeling, that guiding light is what make me WANT to have faith in...

Ji-hoo WILL be with Jan-di--his friend, his guiding force, and the woman he loves.

Go, Ji-hoo, GO!

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I think that the character of Ji Hoo and the personality of the singer-actor KHJ have been a "problem" since the beginning for this drama because it surpass with his charm the lead character of GJP. When I saw the first episode of BOF I believed that Ji Hoo was the lead character of this drama for that reason I continued to watch it.
I believe that the PD and the writers of this new adaptation never expected this and for that reason for many people that including me feel that GJD and YJH should be together at the end.
I blame the writers who should have enhanced the character and did not timely and instead continue to give weight to the character of YJH.
I don´t have idea how is the personality of the lead character in the manga because I have never read it, but in this version I prefer 10000 times JH´s personality.

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I loved this episode! I just don't think that JP and JD are weak. I have NEVER seen a kdrama where a teenager openly disrepcted or openly disobeyed their parents, especially not one meant for teenagers. It just doesn't happen. So they are being very brave, in the kdrama sense.

And I would have hated JD if she allowed everyone else to suffer for her love of JP. She really had no other choice! She couldn't have told JP, because then he would have fought with his mom, maybe even moved out, which is about the same as killing your parents in kdramaland.

Also, I hated, hated, HATED Tsukasa in HYD Japan. He smacked way too many women around. I got that he loved Makino, but never understood why she loved him and not Rui. They were both bad boys in HYD Japan, but one actually had consideration for other people. And if we continue the comparisons, in MG ShanCai refused to admit she loved Si until almost the last 3 episodes. She used to outright deny it!

I am enjoying this show. It is a drama. It is about 4 super rich boys who actually have character and can see the good in a kind of cute, poor girl. If we can buy that, then buying the rest of this show should be a breeze!

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few things

1) LOL WTF when jandi meets her mom, her mom is supposed to be in a far away, obscure place. But behind her fishing mart stands the han river (the blue one that goes into Seoul.)

2) what was the significance of that drunken guy who buys a fish from jandi's mom?

3) I agree with the person who commented that there are so many unnecessary scenes with jandi and jihoo! I mean I want a happy ending for that poor boy who lost his first love and his parents.

Anyways despite flaws I still love bof. Its my fave tv show. And in my opinion, th extremely good looking actors make up for the flaws

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WOW, so deja vu. as i said in my previous post...stopped being critical and overanalying the whole thing and just watch the drama as is. when i switched off my "brain", i did enjoy the episode. that is why when i read in your post that you did the same, i literally fell of my seat and laughed hysterically.

thanks javabeans...i so enjoy your comments. i do feel like i found a bestfriend in the net whenever i read that some of your comments are so much like my opinions. still two more episodes left and the amnesia thing...i am scared and worried how they are going to cram all of these in 2 hours.

somehow, i think the director and writers will twist the manga around, surprise us and end up with a Jihoo-Jandi wedding episode. it is still my belief that Jihoo will find Jandi first before Junpyo......hahahahahahahaha....

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#55 and # 201 speaking of stages of grief...now i understand myself...i thought i was developing bipolar personality from watching this drama. around episode 14, i was in denial then i guess i am in between anger and depression now...thanks for making me laugh too.

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I found the writing for the second season is such a mess. The characters are weak. Lack of dialogs between the two main leads. There just something is missing?!

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I found the writing for the second season is such a mess. The characters are weak. Lack of dialogs between the two main leads. There just something is missing?!

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I wish Hwang In Roi had directed BBF. Despite Goong's problems with padding/pacing/writing, Hwang PD knew what to do with the material (not to mention the excellent job he's been doing with Return of Iljimae).

Oh well.

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Jihoo should get something out of this is all I can say for all the selflessness and unrequiited love

God we need a sequel.

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question: can someone please tell me how gaeul knew that she had to go to the top of buildings?

the only reason why i understood what she was doing was because i had seen hana yori dango. i don't remember anyone telling her any hints as to where the place was supposed to be except that they were supposed to meet there at 7. unless they mentioned it and i completely missed it that was like a huge plot gap imo [not that there haven't been a number of plot leaps/gaps in the drama so far]. i just thought it really came out of nowhere and was more noticeable than other plot gaps.

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nyeet 91 & 200

I agree with you. Most of people here I guess like the idea of love conquers all and etc... but I'm not one of them. And I really don't believe in it completely. Call me skeptical but I guess I tend to see things from different point of view and try to understand the justification of certain actions or plot in the drama that really annoys a lot of people in here. Not saying that what I think is right or wrong but merely to give some contra views; in which people might lack noticing and not worth concern about coz they too stuck into their fantasy-perfect-idealist-lalalaland and they always ended up condemning on how things should be going.

Fantasy or dreams, yes, it's good to have those. But again it's just ideas and yes we can say or change it anyway we can coz it's not real and we don't have to deal with it, since it's in our heads or our hearts. It's where we escape ourselves from reality. But somehow, in the end of the day, we have to comeback and start smelling the grass. If it's fresh, we'd be breathing happily and if it's stink, well we can just close our nose, can we?

Where as reality. It's not always about what we want. We have to deal with life whether you like it or not. Yes, along that way we made bad decisions, cry a river, threw some regret away and yes we learn from it... Yes, it's true that we faced a lot of hardship but not all are sad and pain... there are laughter and smiles along the way...

So to me both fantasy and reality are important coz from both I can learn to grow and may be my life will turn out not bad as I thought it would be. It doesn't mean that if BOF treated the drama more humane, it's condemned to be a reality show altogether. There are still main aspects of fantasy in the drama. A rich spoiled-brat fall for a poor girl. Coz in reality there won't be a real Tsukasa or real Tsukushi. Not that I know off. And if there are.. well then, I think we can make a huge reality series from them.

So, basically it's a matter of how we can learn from this. We learned the idea of love conquers all from the manga, MG and HYD. Haven't we mastered enough already? Isn't it time we learn or experience something differently by now. Again, I wouldn't want to see the same repetitive story.

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i usually watched this drama the moment its available online. but i have been restraining myself from watching this week's episodes.
Reason? i'm sad that the drama is ending next week. have never been this involved in a drama (watching it and discussing it with you guys & javabean's recap has always been the highlight).
gonna miss mondays and tuesdays... no more eye candy for me... ("..bone structures too beautiful to be real...")

granted... i always checked my brain at the door while watching this, but still..... it has been a lot of fun and i love my eye candies...

*now... where did i leave my brain for the past 3 months..., *

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From the beginning of the series, I already felt that the characters lack the strength that I got from the manga.

1. JP had been extensively characterized by his dependence on someone or something to attain his wants. In the Jap version, DYJ was stronger in terms getting what he wants.

2. JD had been enormously weak in her continuous lies, obviously covering up to what she really feels The character was supposed to be a tough weed, but JD showed too much hesitations and self-degradation.

3. I had also hoped that JH should have been supportive, but his acting was not good enough to project his expected character. I like Lei's acting more in the Taiwanese version. He has this inner self-confidence that I cant see in JH.

Regardless, the Korean version is still the one to beat.. The production is overwhelmingly hands up-- from costumes, filming locations and cinematic effects. I especially like the sports competition, skiing and the yacht-getaway.

Thank you javabeans for your hard work in making the recaps and sharing your bright ideas on this series. We still have 2 more episodes to go but I dont think it will leap to further changes. Im just hoping for my happy ending.

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this ep has redeemed Jandi in my eyes - a little. she's dropped the cutesy act and i like the serious/intense Jandi much better. However, chemistry between JP and JD is not there. sad when this is such a highly anticpated drama.

Lee Min Ho - love this actor, man. And he looks ridiculously young when he grins. ...sigh....

I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that Umi is coming into the last 2 eps. i shudder to how PDs are going to cramp everything in. Pardon me, but I've got no more brains left to leave at the door.

Just a quick comment about why I think Ji Hoon is still getting so many airtime even tho he's not going to end up with the lady - PDs trying to cash in on his popularity!

Got to run. Real life awaits - 2 more eps to go and maybe we get to meet up again for BBF2. :)

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#213 - Ga Eul obviously watched HYD Japan, and so knew exactly what to do :)

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Imee@132.. do you have a url for the poll? Really want to check it out - would have voted too, if only I knew. But the poll results are what I would have voted too - although these days Jerry Yen is having a tough time keeping Lee Min Ho from taking over that number one spot - at least in my book. The only thing thats keeping him back is DMS's character is better fleshed out by the scriptwriter than GJP. But having said that LMH is definitely the better actor. Ugh. I can't choose. Can they share? BIG GRIN.

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#218 you are hilarious!!!! hahahahahahahaha...so enjoy people's comments more than the drama right now. not even the eye candies can compensate for my frustrations. but what the heck....

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sure, I appreciate the bittersweet moments where JP and JD can't be together and the ups and downs of their relationship. but this is getting quite emotionally tiring. oh my goshhhhh. nevertheless, the cast has so far not disappointed me in terms of acting. thumbs up to JP, JD and YJ!

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Inocence & nyeet
Well said...

Imee & Joshee
How I wished I could vote too...
For me yes Jerry Yan is the best Tsukasa, arrogant and innocent little boy
But Tsukushi for me still San Chai, for being stubborn yet so cute and funny
F3 Taiwan is the best, the chemistry between them is unbeatable... They are the brats who grew up together...

I guess I'm just in MG boat all along..

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Oh gee... just had a horrible thought shoot through my mind and paralyze me with fear: they're gonna do it--they're gonna have a BBF2. It seems to be too tight a squeeze to get out of the corner they seem to have painted themselves into here--just not enought time to wrap things up really neatly. This, and the fact that the Korean PDs aren't exactly the most consistent bunch--going from total predictability to irrational surprises in about 30 seconds--I totally wouldn't be surprised with a JH and JD wedding (much as I'd dig that). A "surprise announcement" of 12 more episodes isn't a total impossibility here. They're gonna want to milk this cash cow until till its so dry it dies on its ass.

Please go out with a bang and not a whimper...

p.s. Maybe The Witch will have a sudden religious revelation, realise the error of her ways, donate the whole Shinhwa fortune to charity, and go off into a monestary in the mountains and become a nun.

p.p.s. Please, no amnesia arc, PLEASE! What--is the last scene of BBF going to be one of the main characters suddenly waking up in a cold sweat, look around anxiously and then breath a sigh of relief, saying, "Oh, it was all just a dream..."?

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wow this serial is very cool ..
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Okay what is wrong with the writers, i doubt they understand the realtionship between the main two characters of the manga, they've portrayed it so poorly, it's ridiculous. This is not how Domyouji and makino are supposed to be, and it's really getting on my nerves, who the hell wrote this script, i dont really care about the main two characters ending up together in this version as i cant really see why they should, whereas i was completely in love with the M and D in the manga and the awesome japanese version. In this Jun pyo is okay but jandi is beyond useless, domyouji would never fall in love with such a loser version, i'm really disappointed in this version.

p.s. how dare they have the rain scene without the rain, i hate it, i love the rain scene and they've ruined that for me aswell, i really hate the idiot who made this version, he's ruined the personality of the characeters. unforgivable, i'm never watching anything he makes again. Jerk.

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plse plse make the ending episodes great....

wish the PDs could hear me.... i haven't enjoyed a KD as much since Goong... plse don't let it end badly!

JD and JP have to end up together - complementary relationships are so much better similar personality relationship!!

that said, i need a JH!!! i can't deal with anymore JPsssss

but i have to agree with some with the above comments - some episodes are sooooo much better than other (hello... JD with bunny ears??? PD what were you thinking?!?!?! )

don't get me wrong - have loved this series. am going to go find the taiwanese version now after all the Jerry comments!!

again - thanks javabean!!

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After reading this and at the same time watching the release episode.....
What i really feel is that the series is going to end Waaaaaaahhhh Huhuhuh :( and it also make me cry and feel like hugging him when he went into the jail.... no emotion like a dead person.....

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I really have a problem with the editing of this episode. I prefer that jan Di asks Jun Pyo for a date first, then profess her love to him, then found out that JP's mom caused problems with ga Eul's and JiHoo's foundation before breaking up with JP. With the present sequencing, I felt that Jandi's professing her love to JP looks insincere since she's planning to break up with him after. So what's the use of assuring him of her love, when if they break up, JP would find it harder to let her go. Is she really so inconsiderate of JP's feelings, making it a priority to take care of her friends than the love of her life.

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@213 - I am glad someone spot the problem with CONTINUITY! It's like all of a sudden (with flashbacks) GE starts looking for a building. All the flashbacks didn't show YJ reading the letter or EJ telling YJ what is the 7am meeting about!
And after crying his freaking heart out, how can he kiss GE so quickly? Crying for EJ one min and wanting to kiss GE next (let's assume it's like 24hrs later).... -_-"

I gave up watching JD & JP. I think I can't get JD - Suppose to be a girl with weed power but she is like a mop...

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Charitee@213 - I was thinking the same thing! No, there were no mention of buildings as far as I can remember. I guess Leslee@218 must be right - she saw HYD Japan! Haha. Or Meteor Rain, or read the manga. Take your pick.

Hanadan@222 - I loved SanChai too! In many ways she's the best Tsukushi. I guess for me, she lost by the skin of her teeth to Inoue Mao just because her persistent high pitch screaming of 'Dao Ming Si!!' annoyed me so much. BIG GRIN.
Oh and I agree with you about F3 Taiwan. They were so funny especially when teasing Tsukasa.

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Javabeans, I have no idea what I did, but my previous post turned out in a blue box - which is usually when you post. Sorry!!

Oh, now its ok so please ignore this comment - or delete it. SHEEPISH GRIN.

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Anyone know what is the song title in episode 23 of BOF when Jun Pyo is in the police station?

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This installment of HYD has turned into a cliche of a typical kdrama - which is SO sad! Shame on the PD and scriptwriter for destroying what could have been really great!

It's going to have the exact sappy stupid ending as "My Girl" - 3 minutes of pathetic closure right at the end. Mind you, I have never fully watched the whole last episode of "My Girl" - hated it!

JDoramas are generally so much better done as a WHOLE. The writing and characters are consistent and the editing is always good. I read that they are going to edit a lot of the music and scenes before it's aired in Japan in April - good for them, they need to do that!

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[email protected] read about the poll results in an asianfanatics forum and this is the link to the article.
http://asianfanatics.net/forum/index.php?s=4511a780af039117aea443d130596ee6&showtopic=634980&pid=5907086&mode=threaded&start=#entry5907086

There was another survey conducted by TNS Media after 20 episodes of BBF on which scene recorded the highest ratings and cheer up JIDi (JanHoo) shippers as the scene between Jandi and JiHoo where JanDi did a sketch of JiHoo took best ratings at 42.9% viewership.

As the drama comes to an end, I will also miss Javabeans recaps/comments and take on this drama and of course all the opinions of the readers.Hope there will be another drama that will excite us all ,so we can meet again here to voice our sentiments,amusements,joy and frustrations though we know what we are watching is not real. This is such a fantastic ride and escape from our everyday life and to BBF and Javabeans, thanks for that wonderful ride.

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I got to say thank you javabeans for doing such a great job and effort...Its a lot of work but thank you....what I'm going to watch after BBF ends any suggestions????

I really enjoy this episode I think it was very solid...eventhough there were some parts that should have been done/explain better...
1. How in the world did Gaeul found the place and knew about it....and soulmate should just have kissed period why wait or is this just to keep fans on the edge of their seat....jeez not even a peck on the cheek wow...
2. How the hell did mama kang got so much power does she own the whole country or something??...ahhahah...there is not limit to this woman even Mr. Jung ( whom I love) was WTF are doing messing with the ex-president foudation haven't you done enough???love his reaction.....
3. Where did Jihoo went after he read JD message????? to the bus stop, gaeul house, clinic, drove around...(confused)
4. How come someone doesn't realized that the only place JD could have gone was to see her parents duhhhh....doesn't her best friend know where they are????
I know is a drama but jeez PD/Writers details, details are a key in drama.....

Now I have read many posts discussing wether JD or JP are weak...in my humble opinion they are not.....
JP have done everything in his power to save JD from evil mom and at the same time try to keep his promised to his "dead" father....but his heart overrule his head at the end. Remember people mama Kang has all the power in her hands, she is like a hurricane, destroying everything in her path no matter who its is. So, how can JP compete against his mother power.....hard to answer....JP could fight, rant, cry, and make threats but won't do much good.....unless he just walk away from everything...(but he made a promise to his dad).
On the other hand, Jihoo got it easy....no PARENTS to make life a living hell got a a Grandpa who values people for who they are not what they got.... plus he is handsome and got money.....lol....
2. JD to me is not weak she is just in a really hard situation...( I agree with post 205 Leslee) she is not going to let people she loves suffer and have JP decide between her and his family legacy..NO WAY SHE WOULD DO THAT!!!!!
I love the way she goes against mama Kang and let her know that she could stand being hungry, homeless, and cold but she won't let her friends suffer because of her and I LOVE the end when she said " I REGRET THAT THE ONLY PERSON I COULDN'T PROTECT IS THE PERSON (JP) I LOVE THE MUST" mama kang was speechless. Also in the other version JD character also do the same so why people are upset when she leaves ???? it was expected, but I love the way it was set up by the PD ...really heavy emotional scene. I also agrre with Leslee that in TW version Shaicain NEVER admits that she loves DS, she spends the whole drama debating wether she like him or no...it wasn't until the last 3 ep. that she decides to give it go.....same with Makino the girl spend most of her time deciding if she wanted to be Tsukasa or not....Tsukasa did all the running around and she never did anything so why complain about GJD people !!!!! that is all for today sorry it took so long ......hopefully we get the ending BBF deserves if not all this watching and ranting was for nothing lol......

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would you know what lee min ho's next drama series/movie will be?

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@ Javabeans 194 "And Ga-eul has never been shown at school because she’s not a Shinhwa student.'
Yuki was not in Eitoku but by her story and her school uniform you can say she goes to school. But Ga Eul NOTHING ! Expect lick Yi Jun shoes

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@ 204 "I think that the character of Ji Hoo and the personality of the singer-actor KHJ have been a “problem” since the beginning for this drama because it surpass with his charm the lead character of GJP"
Anonyme I propose you to read the commentary on the previous episodes and you will see yourself...

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Anyway Officially HYD Japan remains the BEST adaptation of this story
Best acting
Best chemistry between the actors
Strong, unforgettable moments
No rushed scenes
Good using of the light
exellent camera work
Wonderful music
Not dragging
No out of characterisation
Good script
Everything

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I still like HYD better than BOF. I do like BOF but I think the overall acting from them is better. As for MG, I could not get into that for the world! They dragged the amnesia arc for the whole 2nd season!!!

KHS acting is growing on me. I actually like her protrayal. She can't help it if the scriptwriter made her into a weak damsel in distress! Blame the writers and PDs for their acting and kissing scenes!

Your recaps for this episode is great, as usual!

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dramabeans, I like your banners of KHS, JanDi. She looks really good.

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I don't say Jandi is a coward just because she left. I can see where she felt that she had no other choice; but the way that she left if most definitely cowardly. But that's not ever why I say she's a coward. It's an accumulation of her behavior throughout the whole series. You can justify that she's young and in a tight spot...but all that point goes moot when faced with the fact that she has not once fought for her relationship with Junpyo. This goes all the way back to their very first misunderstanding over the hotel room. Even then, it was F3 that saved her. Macau was the closest she ever came to actually trying.

I stand by what I said, taking the easy way out may be natural but that doesn't make it any less cowardly. Lying may also be natural but it's still cowardly. If she had just once put some effort into being honest and working with her friends to try to find a solution, I wouldn't be angry at all. If that were the case, then, by all means, run off to the fishing village with your family. But,as it stands no shot has been given whatsoever... hence, cowardly.

By the way... this doesn't exonerate Jun Pyo... he hasn't been much better through the whole deal but he's at least taken a chance... granted, he has less to loose in the gamble so it's easier for him.

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The major problem with this drama is that it's so freaking long! It seems that with the drama being 25 episodes, they simply ran out of plot lines and had to both drag on and recycle the existing ones to create the same problems over and over again. It just seems like this was poor planning because some plot lines could have gone on longer while others should have been shorter. I agree that Jan Di and Jun Pyo both seem very cowardly in this version. With Jun Pyo it's a little easier to understand because Lee Min Ho's portrays his agony so well but in Jan Di's case, she seems more like a whiney little girl (I'm just talking about how the actors portrayed the characters here). I seem to recall that the reason that Jun Pyo fell for Jan Di in the first place was because she was strong, and very unlike all the other girls he met that would swoon over him. However, she has developed into a proverbial damsel-in-distress-like character that is unable to really do much for herself and this tainted version of her annoys me to no end! Oh how I wish for the Jan Di of episodes 1-6! This is not to say that I'm not still rooting for the couple, but now I'm wondering how they would even survive as a couple at all if they both instantly give up at the first sign of an obstacle. Of course, this is a drama and not real life so I imagine in the end all character flaws will be ignored and happiness will ensue for all. This is how it should be, I just wish that both Jun Pyo and Jan Di's characters could have been portrayed a little more like their manga counterparts instead of these meekly mutated versions.

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So it's changed? Saying that she's coward throughout the story? How about when she stand herself up to GJP? Or when she give the best kicked ever to GJP and the other guy? Or when she stand up to Madam Kang? Or when she seeks him out in Macau? Does that count as coward too? Yes, her character is supposed to be strong but not all the time. Life is like a wheel. Sometimes we're on the top and sometimes we're down under. And this is her down moment.

If somebody back off in a fight? Is that considered coward? Wouldn't you know your limit already if you know that you'll never going to win? So its better to crash and burn? How about survival?

So, she stays and fight with boyfriend? Then that would totally be way off from the manga plot. This is the very core of it. So what would she and her friend do? Isn't she mentioned that she don't want others to protect her anymore? That by doing this, Madam Kang will leave her friends alone.

Or is it more brave if she just leave without even telling him? Now that's COWARD to me. At least she is saying goodbye to him. That take a lot of guts, man! How is that coward? Sorry but I don't see it that way. I'm not agreeing with her action though, but to say that her action is coward is a bit shallow to me.

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i agree with you NYEET...
sometimes there is a reason for what we done...

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nyeet

Just to add... How about when she killed that roaches for GJP? For some people she is a superhero!... LOL

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are you kidding HanaDan???

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lamena
No I'm not kidding... GJP is one of them.
Entomophobia (also known as insectophobia) is a common fear of or aversion to insects and similar arthropods, and even other "bugs", such as worms. Commonly, this condition might be referred to as the "fear of insects or bugs". This condition causes a slight to severe emotional reaction, a form of anxiety or a panic attack. It is a particular case of specific phobias, all of which have basically the same causes (differing mostly in the source of phobia) and similar choices of treatments.

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LOL HanaDan... You really know how to make me laugh

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I support GJD leaving to live with her parents to stop her friends and their families from suffering under Mom KANG.

But it is the way/maner the writer/PD wrote her up for is TOTALLY Destructive to her character....

GJD character should of been more thoughtful and mindful of the very person she loved in the world-GJP. It has never been her style to be down right cruel. She was always protective....

Could the Writer and PD have thought of a lesser hurtful way for her to visit/live w/ her parents....????? you both have majored on minor issues here and lost tract of the major emphasis of GJD's character.

GHS and LMH are not to be blammed for their characterization of the HYD but the writer and the PD.

Here are two top notch talents and PD and writer screws their roles ROYALLY!!!

J-Tsukasa is only Stong because his mom is alot WEAKER than K-Mom Kang.
This is also the writer and PD''s decision.
That is why the fans are screaming weak JD and JP.

So fans, be objective, see the bigger picture of how this drama is casted and just weather it. The forecast from the beginning is cloudy most of the time.

The Lead Actor and actresses carried these episodes all by themselves...with or without writer...and PD. Editing kisses is so lame. HS students do more than touch lips..be realistic....

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