Boys Before Flowers: Episode 14
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And the schizophrenia continues, because I really liked Episode 14. I don’t even think I would’ve gotten (that) drunk in our hypothetical Illogical Moments Drinking Game (although, let’s face it, there’s always going to be a reason for SOME drinky-drink in a BBF episode).
I didn’t hate Episode 13 — it’s just that it had so many problems, and BBF’s problems tend to be glaring and un-ignorable — but Episode 14 worked for me on several different levels. I love angst when it’s done well and not just manufactured out of nothing. The angst levels in 14 made sense and produced some great scenes with most (all?) of the characters.
SONG OF THE DAY
G.O.D. – “사랑이 힘들때” (When Love Gets Difficult), with Lim Jeong-hee. Yes, G.O.D. is no longer together, but they’re like my go-to comfort kpop group. My favorite part of the song is the child chorus that goes, “However beautiful, however strong, I guess love still breaks down when things get difficult. Could we be the only ones who still believe that love conquers all?” [ Download ]
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(You know, looking through my songs, it occurs to me that we could probably reconstruct the whole plot of Boys Before Flowers purely in G.O.D. song titles. Hmm. Will have to think on that.)
EPISODE 14 RECAP
At the Venetian casino-hotel, Jan-di sadly recalls how Jun-pyo ignored her. (Anyone else laugh out loud at the gondolier singing “Con te partiro” at the top of his lungs?)
Not to be outdone, another voice starts singing a different song: Ha Jae-kyung belts “Santa Lucia” from her gondola. She’s not a great singer, and I’m not sure if she is being jokey/mocking. If so, it’s kind of awesome. Particularly since she’s switched places with her gondolier — she takes the oar while he sits back like a passenger.
The guys remark that the girl is embarrassing, but Jan-di recognizes her and says she’s really cool. They wonder how she knows her; Jan-di answers that the girl saved her life. Woo-bin protests that saving Jan-di is their thing (in a cute, “Wait, what about us?” way). Guys, guys, don’t worry — Jan-di needs saving so often, there’s plenty to go around.
For those wondering how Jun-pyo can suddenly be made head of Shinhwa Group, he isn’t the only executive. Madam Kang still carries the title of 회장, which is like president or chair. Jun-pyo’s a managing director, which means he carries authority as a senior executive — but he’s not the sole power running Shinhwa. (Not that this plot point is realistic to begin with.)
Jun-pyo and Madam Kang greet their business associates, the heads of JK Group, who have been courted to work with Shinhwa in their global venture. The couple explain that their daughter, Jae-kyung, is off touring Macau alone, then compliment Mama Kang on her handsome son. Mom beams.
F3 take Jan-di to dinner at one of their favorite restaurants, but Ji-hoo, who leads the group, spots Jun-pyo inside. Before the others have a chance to see, he turns and announces that he wants to go somewhere else. He shoots the guys a Meaningful Look, and they catch on quickly, changing their minds casually to keep Jan-di from guessing why.
Ji-hoo pauses to shoot a hard look in Jun-pyo’s direction, and I really think he should just be angry all the time. I didn’t find him interesting as the gentle prince (too bland and supposedly perfect), but he’s much more compelling being angry.
At the dinner table with Jae-kyung’s parents, Jun-pyo receives emailed photos on his phone. His expression grows troubled when he opens the messages surreptitiously to find a series of photos of Jan-di. The sender isn’t shown, but I’m guessing this is Mr. Jung working on Jun-pyo’s instructions.
Mama Kang notices his inattention and breaks in to interrupt his photo-time.
Attuned to Jan-di’s gloom, Ji-hoo asks if she regrets coming and whether she has a plan. She takes the philosophical approach — at least she got to visit a nice place — and says she doesn’t have a plan. “But it would be nice just to be able to see him and ask, ‘How’ve you been? I’ve been okay.'”
She wonders, “Isn’t it strange? It feels like it was ages ago that we were together. If he really does act like he doesn’t know me, I’ll wonder if I just dreamed it on my own.”
Ji-hoo answers firmly, “It’s not a dream. If it were, it wouldn’t have been so painful. After sending you off, I realized that I’d done nothing all this time. When I came to my senses, you were on the plane. So it’s not a dream. Because you’re in front of me now.”
Maybe he feels he’s revealed too much, because he abruptly says goodnight and leaves. Left alone, Jan-di breathes on the glass, then writes the character ㅈ (equivalent to “J”), but stops there.
Mr. Jung tries to convince Jun-pyo to meet F4, but Jun-pyo flatly refuses, reminding him that he has no time for playing around with friends. Therefore, Mr. Jung must go out of his way to coordinate with Yi-jung; citing a business meeting, he delivers Jun-pyo to a basketball court.
Seeing F3 waiting for him, Jun-pyo contains his reaction and says, devoid of any warmth, “Nice to see you.” Ji-hoo: “Do you mean that? Doesn’t seem like it.”
Yi-jung expects Jun-pyo to be happy that Jan-di came too, but Jun-pyo responds, “And why do I have to see her? Girls like her don’t mean anything to me now.” Yi-jung realizes, “So you not calling Jan-di was intentional?”
Jun-pyo says carelessly, “Intentional or not, I didn’t have time to bother worrying about stuff like that.” Being the most perceptive, Ji-hoo has guessed much of this and is not surprised, but Yi-jung and Woo-bin are taken aback at the extent of Jun-pyo’s coldness.
Growing angry, Yi-jung asks, “You call yourself a man?” Jun-pyo reminds him that the guys have all dated around, “So can’t I?” Yi-jung retorts that he may have dated around a lot, “but I never acted like you!” and lunges at Jun-pyo.
Woo-bin holds him back. Yi-jung glares: “What did you tell us back when we tried to stop you? You said a man takes responsibility from the beginning through the end!” Jun-pyo scorns, “And you believed it? No way you guys believed we would make it in the end.”
That’s too much. Yi-jung grabs Jun-pyo’s jacket and bursts out, “Whose fault is it that Jan-di can’t swim anymore?!” There’s a brief flicker of surprise in Jun-pyo’s expression before Yi-jung punches him.
Woo-bin tells Yi-jung to calm down, but Yi-jung snarls that he won’t: “Listen to what that asshole’s saying!” He reminds Jun-pyo: “I warned you. I told you not give encouragement too easily, you coward!”
Jun-pyo gripes, “Did you quit being my friend and all rush to be Jan-di’s black knights? If you came here as friends, then enjoy yourselves before going home. But if you even think about mentioning her name, leave immediately.”
Jun-pyo starts to walk away, but stops at Woo-bin’s question, “Why have you changed?” Without turning back, he responds:
Jun-pyo: “700 thousand. That’s the number of Shinhwa employees and family members I have to take responsibility for — 700 thousand. Try taking on 700 thousand lives, and see if you don’t change.”
Jan-di waits to hear the results of F3’s meeting with Jun-pyo, and can tell from their expressions that it was not good. Yi-jung figures she should know the truth, and Woo-bin explains that he’s changed a lot and probably been under a lot of stress.
Jan-di guesses, “He won’t see me?” They’re surprised she knew, but she assures them not to worry about her: “Whatever he has to say, I came to hear it directly from him. I’ll have to face him.”
They’re relieved at Jan-di’s ready acceptance of the truth, and impressed at her attitude. Feeling much better, Woo-bin suggests an old game — hide and seek in masks. Which… actually looks really fun.
Prince Song is named “It,” so everyone else scatters to hide.
Ji-hoo pulls Jan-di into his corner to escape Woo-bin’s notice. She’s having a good time until she looks up and sees Jun-pyo on the large TV screen, which kills the lively atmosphere. She starts to sob, and Ji-hoo comforts her.
That night, Ji-hoo calls out a reluctant Jun-pyo to ask for a favor — that Jun-pyo meet Jan-di just once.
Jun-pyo: “Why would you ask for that kind of favor?”
Ji-hoo: “Because that’s the only thing I can do for her right now.”
This ties into Ji-hoo’s earlier comment that he realized how he’d done nothing thus far. A flashback shows us the day Jan-di left for Macau, when she’d dropped by to tell Ji-hoo something: “After today, I’m not sure I can say these words. I’m really glad that I got to know you.”
At dawn, Ji-hoo takes Jan-di out for a “walk,” which turns out to be his way of delivering her to Jun-pyo. She approaches the bridge to find him already there, although he keeps his gaze firmly fixed away from her.
Jan-di starts hesitantly, “I was really worried after I heard about your father.” Flatly, he answers, “Thanks. Is that why you came all the way here?… As you see, I’m fine, and as you know, I’m extremely busy. Now that you know, go. Don’t bother worrying about my well-being.” (That last bit literally means: don’t presume you have the right to worry about my health, so don’t bother.)
Hurt, she takes this in. It’s only at this point that he turns to look at her:
Jun-pyo: “Do you have more to say?”
Jan-di: “Do you really mean it?”
Jun-pyo: “What do you want? You can’t be expecting me to say, ‘I’m sorry, forgive me, I’ll go back soon so wait for me,’ could you?”
Jan-di: “Why are you doing this?”
Jun-pyo: “I’ve started to wake up to reality, that’s all.”
Jan-di: “All right, I understand now. Then you really did intend to act like you didn’t see me, and to avoid meeting me. To you, I’m—”
Jun-pyo: “A stain I want to erase.”
Jan-di: “That’s cruel of you, Gu Jun-pyo. Really cruel.”
Jun-pyo: “No. I’ve always been this kind of guy. I just pretended I wasn’t.”
What can Jan-di say to that? She calms herself and tells him, “I’ll go. Take care.”
Jun-pyo returns carelessly, “Worry about yourself,” and leaves.
I LOVE this scene. Jun-pyo is so cold and mean, and although we the audience know there’s more to the story, his act in front of Jan-di is completely convincing — enough that you want to wince along with Jan-di at the force of his words.
Also, I like the line where Jun-pyo says that she couldn’t expect him to ask her forgiveness and beg her to wait — because that’s exactly what he would like to do, and he’s trying really hard to deny that.
It’s still early morning, so nobody’s in the faux courtyard but a gondolier, who takes her for a boat ride and treats her to a free song. Again, it’s “Con te partiro” (the English version of the song is called “Time to say goodbye”). I’m surprised I actually liked the song this time around — in the first scene it seemed silly, but here with Jan-di sitting alone, inside the empty shopping arcade, crying to herself while he sings… it’s sad.
(This is the “Con te partiro” version sung by “popera” singers Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli.)
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Although Jun-pyo seemed unmoved when confronting Jan-di, that is far from the truth. He bursts in on his mother, asking furiously, “Are you satisfied now? Now that everything’s the way you want, are you satisfied?”
Mama Kang replies, “I don’t know, merely hearing about the likes of that girl doesn’t make me happy.”
Jun-pyo fires back, “She’s not just ‘that kind of girl‘! She’s the first girl that I — YOUR SON — ever loved.”
Oh my GOD. How does Lee Min-ho make his eyes fill up with tears, ever so gradually, to correspond with his growing frustration? HOW?
Madam Kang asks calmly, perhaps knowing she has an ace in the pocket, whether he will throw everything away to run to the girl — the company, the employees, his future. What about his father?
Knowing that she’s going to guilt him, Jun-pyo tells her to stop, but she continues, reminding him that his father put everything into the company: “Are you going to throw him away too?… What should I do about Jan-di? Should I make it impossible for her to live anywhere in Korea?”
Jun-pyo: “Be quiet. I told you TO STOP!” He warns, “Don’t mess with Jan-di. If you break your promise, I’ll destroy everything.”
Time to check in back at home. Jan-di’s brother, Kang-san, falls ill with mysterious stomach pains, and his parents rush him to … Doctor Former President?
I is confuzzled. If a former president started practicing medicine, wouldn’t people, um, know about it? Or maybe President Grandpa has a twin brother…
To cheer up Jan-di, Ji-hoo takes her around for the day. They sightsee, watch a Cirque du Soleil-style performance, and shop — the last of which Jun-pyo happens to see as he’s passing by a storefront.
While Ji-hoo looks around, Jan-di is drawn to a pretty shoe on display — which she hastily returns when she looks at the price tag.
Jun-pyo tries to ignore this, but ends up returning to the store to claim the shoe. Only, another shopper grabs it at the same moment. Jae-kyung and Jun-pyo grapple with the shoe, both refusing to let go. (They register no recognition; I’m guessing they’ve never met, since her parents had never seen him before, either.)
Jun-pyo wrenches it from her hand, but when Mr. Jung asks if he knows Jan-di’s shoe size, he stops short. He doesn’t know, so he sizes up Jae-kyung and shoves the shoes on her feet to get an approximation.
Jun-pyo is satisfied that they’ll fit and tells her to take them off. But now that she’s in possession, she refuses and tries to run off (without paying?). In a cute sequence, Jun-pyo chases her around the store and grabs Jae-kyung, who loses her balance.
Having won, Jun-pyo walks out with the shoes.
That night, Madam Kang hears that Jan-di intends to go home the next day. Given their break-up and the fact that Jun-pyo is currently working in the conference room, she is satisfied that both sides have come to their senses and returned to their “rightful” positions.
If only she knew that Jun-pyo isn’t actually working; instead, he’s looking at photos on his computer.
Clearly this slideshow presentation is Ji-hoo’s doing, because it closes with Jan-di’s recorded video message. A tear slips from Jun-pyo’s eye as it plays, after which he stands up purposely, as though to rush off to find her.
Just as he starts to leave, something seizes his attention — in place of the slideshow are old memories of him and his father. (The editing makes it seem for a moment that he’s watching video footage, but I’m pretty sure they’re in his head. If only because it’s crazy to think this particular conversation just happened to be recorded fifteen years ago. Not that BBF is known for its logic.) In the memories, a young Jun-pyo is with his loving father (uh, character inconsistency?), who asks, “What will you do when I’m not around?” Young Jun-pyo proudly makes a man-to-man promise, “I’ll take care of Mom, Noona, and Shinhwa Group.”
It’s his guilty conscience flaring, to keep him from throwing away his position for Jan-di. Torn between both very strong impulses, Jun-pyo bellows in frustration and sinks to the ground.
The next day, Ji-hoo and Jan-di check out of the hotel. I wonder if Ji-hoo is expecting Jun-pyo to show, but instead he’s recognized by someone else, an old friend. (The actor is Haiming, Chinese member of kpop group A’ST1; the character is shortened to “Ming.”)
Ming is thrilled to see Ji-hoo, but disappointed that they’re leaving today. Sensing that Jan-di is the key to convincing them to stay one more day, he gains her approval — then pushes her aside to cozy up to Ji-hoo. It’s hilarious at how much he adores Ji-hoo. I’m not sure if he loves him or is IN LOVE with him, but in any cause, it’s pretty amusing.
Ming takes them to his fancy home and prepares a lavish spread — all to impress Ji-hoo, of course. He and Jan-di engage in a silent battle over the food — Jan-di reaches for the delicious dishes, while Ming moves them away, offering them to Ji-hoo instead.
When Ji-hoo in turn passes the food to Jan-di, she eats with petty triumph. Lol.
Feeling threatened by Jan-di’s claim on Ji-hoo’s affections, Ming tells him grumpily, “She’s not pretty,” and highlights all her shortcomings. He asks if they’re dating, so Ji-hoo asks what Ming thinks.
Ming: “It seems that you like her. When you look at her, you smile, like back then.”
Ji-hoo: “Back then?”
Ming: “Like with Seo-hyun.”
Finally giving in to the impulse, Jun-pyo tries to call Jan-di’s hotel room, only to find that she’s already checked out.
He assumes that means they’ve headed back to Korea, but Mr. Jung informs him that they’re still in the country, visiting a friend. That’s news to Jun-pyo, who wonders who the friend is, but when Mr. Jung offers to find out, Jun-pyo tells him not to bother. (Mr. Jung smiles at this proof that Jun-pyo still cares.)
So Jan-di and Ji-hoo go sightseeing some more, and it is gorgeous.
COMMENTS
I don’t know why I have so much to say about 1 hour of television, and I’m trying to keep things concise (ha!), but sorry in advance for rambling on so. I can’t seem to help it.
Anyway. I feel like PD Jeon just discovered how to shoot reflections in this episode, based on the sheer number of them we got, like —
There were a few standout scenes, which altogether include pretty much everyone in the main cast. So yeah, Episode 14 totally stepped up its game. (Just don’t hold your breath for Episode 15, based on our established pattern.)
One example: The F4 basketball scene. I LOVE that Yi-jung is the one who gets mad. It’s notable that Woo-bin tells Yi-jung to calm down because all series long, Yi-jung has been the one to tell people to calm down whenever they got upset. Perhaps Ji-hoo could have filled that role, but I’m glad Yi-jung was the one to throw the punch, for a few reasons:
First, we’ve seen plenty of Angry Ji-hoo (which I consider a good thing), so we already know how much he cares. Second, we already had a direct Ji-hoo versus Jun-pyo conflict in earlier episodes, so Yi-jung’s reaction gives us a different spin, as it involves someone who doesn’t have romantic feelings for Jan-di. I think that highlights just how badly Jun-pyo is treating Jan-di on a basic friend-to-friend level, that Yi-jung (and Woo-bin) also find his behavior appalling, not just Ji-hoo. And third, I’m thinking Yi-jung has been set off-kilter by Ga-eul’s insight (in Episode 13) into his fear of true love, etc., so his anger at Jun-pyo mistreating Jan-di is given an added layer of meaning. (Sorta like, I’m scared to death of finding true love, and you’ve got it in front of you, and you’re just going to trample all over it like this?)
I’m not jumping ship to root for the Jun-pyo and Jae-kyung pair, but I thought they were really cute together, and this is the first outsider love interest that made me nervous — which, yay! I never felt that the Jun-di pair was really endangered until this episode, and while I don’t think Jae-kyung will upset the order too much, I’m very glad that it at least makes me uneasy.
As for the scene with Madam Kang… I don’t even think I have to say much about it. It was GREAT.
And then, of course, the bridge scene. I am a big fan of this interpretation of Jun-pyo’s character, and part of that is because cruelty can be so much harsher when it’s quiet and contained, rather than overt tantrum-ing. Both Jun-pyo and Madam Kang do that beautifully. He can lash out in violence, too, but he’s at his worst when he’s in control, and wielding his cold cruelty with surgical precision.
That’s why this whole personality about-face — which, yes, I know was in the original — actually seems very in character for the way Jun-pyo has been established. (Like he said, he’s not becoming cold — he was always cold.) Also, we’re given the hint that Jun-pyo made a deal with his mother to do her bidding in exchange for leaving Jan-di alone. Therefore, his attitude change doesn’t feel like a weird personality morph that sprang up as an artificial plot contrivance; it actually feels like a natural development. (I know! I used “natural” to describe Boys Before Flowers!)
I really enjoyed Hana Yori Dango — I loved the manga over-the-topness and the cheesy storylines, which worked for that format. But what I appreciate — and what feels different — about Boys Before Flowers is that this second part feels… kinda real, actually. (Not necessarily plot-wise — but emotionally, oh yeah.) I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up.
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201 GEEKRIGHTHERE
February 19, 2009 at 11:07 AM
that scene where JP & fiance were fighting over the shoes
was so symbolic. it was originally only for Jandi, but the other girl had
eyes for it too. JP isnt sure whether its compatible with Jandi
so he gives the girl a try to put it on. she runs away with it, but eventually
caught by JP himself. in the end, he takes back the shoes to be delivered
to Jandi.
the same way jaekyung had eyes for the shoes, she also falls in love
with JP like Jandi. She seemed more compatible together with JP
so she gets a chance to actually be with him. but she takes this big
opportunity to run and steal him away. in the end, she is caught by
JP himself, takes back his heart, and return it to its rightful owner, Jandi.
that was some good foreshadowing of the events to come.
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and for more symbolism-- the part were F3 and Jandi escape the troubles
of life as they play hide & seek wearing masks. Woobin was the one
chosen to search for his lost friends, unmask them, and face the reality of life.
Jandi was given a hand by Jihoo as she wandered around--lost. Despite
the fact that they were well hidden, JP's presence appears in the big screen.
this shows that they can never escape JunPyo's existence even if they were to stay together and mask themselves. all they could really do is to
comfort each other.
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202 GEEKRIGHTHERE
February 19, 2009 at 11:10 AM
junpyo is in this alone -- he has no one. ='[
at least jandi has family, GaeEul, and F3 to support her.
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203 BBFan
February 19, 2009 at 11:29 AM
Hey GEEKRIGHTTHERE,
Truly insightful of you
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204 GEEKRIGHTTHERE
February 19, 2009 at 11:38 AM
BBFan,
thanks. please excuse my grammar. i sort of
jumbled up a bunch of words there. i had to let it out
before my brain explodes. o.O''
anyway, i look forward to more analyzing!!!
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205 gia
February 19, 2009 at 4:53 PM
christine,
the song is in the bbf ost no 6 별빛눈물
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206 gia
February 19, 2009 at 4:55 PM
i love a lot the actress who play jandi, i browse a lot in web, i find that not much people love the actress.
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207 queen_of_the_game
February 19, 2009 at 5:03 PM
Wow javabeans..i think i am inlove with you...hehehe you make sense of all the scenes in BOF that somewhat left me puzzled...especially the part where jun pyo told jandi "you don't expect me to say sorry, forgive me and please wait for me" i thought at first jun pyo was just being an ass and he's trying to annoy and make jandi feel sorry for going all the way to see him....but it totally make sense to me now...those are the exact words that he wanted to tell her...waaaaaa.... and to woo bin...i love the guy because even if his character is the gangsta leader he seems to be the most level headed among the four....i think he's the peace lover of them all...and i really wish that something interesting happen to him too..and more lines...not just "bo (what)" and "kah ja (let's go)"....heheheh thanks so much for always making my day javabeans....
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208 Mai
February 19, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Ahck! I loved this episode to its fullest! =D Ah... The emotions were nice, it was more then intense and gosh a standing ovation to our Lee Minho for acting so greatly.. =D But, I agree with you about the Junpyo and Jaekyung pair, they're refreshing and cute. Although it kind of reminds you of Jandi and Junpyo but it seems like Jaekyung sees something in Junpyo.. Haha, but I guess we'll find out later.. =) Jandi looked really pretty in this episode and I feel so bad for Junpyo... He's torn between his family and Jandi, the girl he loves... Ugh.. Its heartbreaking for both Junpyo and Jandi... =/ BUT Hyung Joon who plays Jihoo did a great job in this episode! =D I loved the great emotions. =D Okay, I know its random but I'm in a rush so great review! =D
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209 CyNurse
February 19, 2009 at 11:00 PM
OMG...wny do i like the girl who plays Jae-kyung for Jun Pyo? And I even imagine her in the Jan Di role....phewww!
It is already episode 14 and I think I still can't get Gu Hye Sun's acting in this drama. She tries so hard to be funny, to look forlorn, to look cute...I only like her when she is crying. Because she does cry naturally.
And as always, Min Ho rocks. Same with Kim Bum and Kim Joon. Enough said.
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210 justpassingby
February 20, 2009 at 7:26 AM
I'm beginning to get addicted to your recaps javabeans^^...they are really entertaining and you're able to give your insights and comments with witty remarks....watching the episodes of BBF doesn't make me satisfied if I don't read your own interpretation and side comments. So, I decided to post here which is not really my cup of tea. You're great! I'm looking forward to the next episode..
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211 ayay
February 20, 2009 at 7:59 AM
I skipped ep.13 and back then to watch ep.14 based on your review and recap
I love hoe this story goes so far,,
a little bit confuse about what will happen next ep.
still don't get points why JD loves JP that much (sorry I love JD x JH better)
JP's fiance,, hm I love her so much,, I think her personality makes me feel like I watch Jun Hee noona, she has some similarities with her..
how I wish she will have a relationship with someone (but maybe it will ruin this drama)
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212 lily
February 20, 2009 at 10:28 AM
Mama Kang. Yes she looks scaring but not threatning. I see a woman who loves his son and it doesn't seem she is the one who deserted his son. She doesn't want to see him suffer. I mean some people say they don't like Kaede because she is mean blah blah blah. At the same time they are "HAPPY" because mama Kang looks scaring. Not too much talk about a supposed cruel woman. She anything but an "IRON WOMAN"! Overall she looks scaring. All about it. So the Jun Pyo's act "I suffered because I was a lonely person deserted by his mother!!" or "you changed me so when I am upset I grab you by the collar..." it's all fakeness.
Then Jun Pyo who cries in the drama...and people goes like he is the best actor, the best Domyoji blah blah blah [I mean even Jan-di (who ruined Makino for me) or any other average korean drama heroes (like the actor of return of iljimae) can convincly cry]. Anyway I don't think an arrogant, spoiled, lonely because of his mother, rebellious and harsly coldly educated DOMYOJI would cry in front of "Iron woman". Indeed If there is a thing Domyoji would never do it's showing his weak side to her Because it firstly means he lowers his guards in front of her, then he somewhat hates this cold and mean so called mother, and he has to prove her he is a strong heir and futur businessman.
After the Fiance thing. That's true these two people have chemistry (not like the lead actors). But I don't think a DOMYOJI who only love Makino (even though he acts rude to her) would be playful with another girl when you supposed be a lonely, violent, brat person who can't accept any other girl except Makino/Jan-di. What's strikes me with lee Min Ho acting is I really see he "acts". For example his passion for Jan-di and his rudeness towards her look as fake as the scene when HCY made Jan-di up in episode 3. Not only she didn't look elegant at all but the Jun Pyo and F4 reaction look completly forced ! And please the tongue thing is getting random.
Afterwards the Yi Joong punch WTH ? Do you think a Soujiro would start a fight with Domyoji because of Makino?
1-Soujiro respects Makino but he has never considered her like Domyoji, Rui or Akira do and more than his friends ! So he would never never start to punch Domyoji, his childhood bestfriend for a girl he newly knows (plus when Yi Joong helps Jan-di seems he does that because he has time to spend !) ! Talk about supposed F4 (or F2 ?). Soujiro/Yi Joong is not Rui/Ji Hoo
2-Domyoji/Jun Pyo is the leader of F4. And with Domyoji character I don't think he would let Soujiro/Yi Joong punches him without he kicks his ass back. Indeed he is an arrogant violent person and the leader of F4 ! So where is so called Jun Pyo's leadership ? Oh I was about to forget, it's all about look. Plus whatever we say Soujiro is not as hot headed as Domyoji or Jun Pyo supposed to be !
In conclusion BOF doesn't follow the manga the best for me. They changed every essential things of HYD!! All I see is a rushed mix of MG and HYD.
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February 20, 2009 at 12:42 PM
GHS's emotion was soooooo real... i cried alot T_T.. i've been in that situation too.. T_T and LMH also did a terrific job.
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214 candy
February 20, 2009 at 12:57 PM
u got it right!! Jae Kyung personality resembles his noona.
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215 lily
February 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM
Weird I though it's Makino/Jan-di who should ressemble Tsubaki
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216 balletbabe
February 20, 2009 at 2:21 PM
Agreed I think JP and Jae Kyung do look go together! When I saw the scene with them at the store I was like oh oh! Anyways going back to episode 1 or 2 there were hint that Master knew Ji- Hoo
1. When Jan-di said that there was one member of F4 that was different he nods his head in agreement.
2. I think later on when he stopped by to see Jan-di her was really happy.
I just decided to re-watch the episode to see if there were things I missed that were foreshadowed later!
I also think that Kelly Clarkson's new song My Life Would Suck Without You fits perfectly for Jan-di and Jun-Pyo's relationship right now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h09_1qdkFIA
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217 yellowsunshine
February 20, 2009 at 3:40 PM
Question! Didn't they film this before the series actually started? If so doesn't that mean that with the exception of Kim Bum the cast's acting is like a roller coaster, it keeps going up and down!
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218
February 20, 2009 at 4:08 PM
To the ppl who comment that JP shouldn't call Jan-di "this kid" you need to remember that in the drama she is suppose to be younger than them that why she addresses Ji Hoo as sunbae/ sunbea (sp)
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219 BBFan
February 20, 2009 at 7:18 PM
Ji Hoo strikes me as someone who pays real close attention to the woman that he loves. He's the type who would notice if his girl covets something right?
So it's odd that he wouldn't notice Jan Di eying those silver flats in the store.
I''m pretty sure Ji Hoo went back to buy Jan Di a pair. The question is, who will give her the shoes first? If Ji Hoo gives Jan Di the shoes first, this will be in keeping with the theme thus far. Ji Hoo's always been the first...
1) To kiss Jan Di
2) The first to take a bite of her apple
3) The first to eat her GJP chocolates
and if I'm right.....
4) He will give her the slippers first
What do you guys think?
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220 GEEKRIGHTTHERE
February 20, 2009 at 7:42 PM
BBFan,
yes. i sorta agree with you.
i was thinking exactly the same thing after seeing
some scenes of episode 15. i have a feeling that
he might give those shoes first. but it would totally ruin
everything for me since i really want to see her reaction
when junpyo gives it to her.
& an addition to your list, Jihoo was also Jandi's FIRST love.
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221 (o.O)''
February 20, 2009 at 7:46 PM
thank you so much for the recaps!
it really made my day =]
btw, i really think this song matches Junpyo & Jandi's relationship
right now -- Who Knew by Pink [it's heartbraking]
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=424-fWgUdJ4[/url]
*i'd make make a fanvid using this song if i ever get the chance.
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222 (o.O)''
February 20, 2009 at 7:47 PM
thank you so much for the recaps!
it really made my day =]
btw, i really think this song matches Junpyo & Jandi's relationship
right now -- Who Knew by Pink [it's heartbraking]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=424-fWgUdJ4
*i'd make make a fanvid using this song if i ever get the chance.
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223 BBFan
February 20, 2009 at 7:47 PM
GEEKRIGHTTHERE,
you've seen ep 15 scenes? where? pls tell
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224 GEEKRIGHTHERE
February 20, 2009 at 7:56 PM
well, it's more of a picture-slide-preview-thinggy.
waiting five days in desperation really kills =p
[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIJf4xYrxI0[/url]
*cover your ears if you shriek at the sound of ALMOST PARADIIISEE
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225
February 20, 2009 at 7:57 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIJf4xYrxI0
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226 GEEKRIGHTTHERE
February 20, 2009 at 8:00 PM
* ^ that anonymous was me =]
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227 alexthegirl
February 20, 2009 at 9:27 PM
Again, fantastic recap Dramabeans. For the first time, my heart felt that :ache: that happens when you REALLY feel the character's emotions.
I have a theory about the grandpa however. I know the focus would automatically be on the Former-President Harabolji but what about the other grandpa? I'm assuming he had both sets of grandparents so couldn't the other grandpa be a doctor and also be upset at losing his daughter? That family picture doesn't necessarily have to be of the "famous" side. Just a thought. I guess all will be revealed soon enough.
:clap clap: for this episode though.
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228 ho
February 20, 2009 at 9:41 PM
hi
even though i didnt make these
but they are brilliant!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPB1fusfHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3dUVLEFe8U
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229 justpassingby
February 20, 2009 at 10:17 PM
GEEKRIGHTTHERE,
when I clicked the thread you posted, it seemed that jandi and jihoo will get along well and might start a relationship in episode 15.....what the heck!
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230 gem476
February 20, 2009 at 11:48 PM
I read the synopsis of ep. 15 where gjp's fiancee was intoduce jandi hear it all , my heart sunk to the bottom of the ocean.And I felt the burning sensation in my heart for Jandi. It really hurts and I can't stop my tears falling while I'm watching the bridge scene. GJP's performance was superb and Jandi's holding her emotion was very touchiing and heartbreaking.
It is good if Jandi at that very moment return the necklace to end up the relationship that will open the emotion of GJP towards her, but then on the other hand its also nice that she did not hand it over. Since she is going back to Korea
it is just right that she return it over where she recieve it. gosh?????
I can't stop my tears .....I better end it now before I'll get mad..... and broke into tears again. Kudos to the translator.
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231 ladyjumong1
February 21, 2009 at 7:16 AM
@217 BBFan, who knows, Jihoo may also have taken a bite of that Junpyo rice that Jandi intended for JP (ending of ep. 12)-that would be sad.
Anyways, l though this episode was really intense-great acting from everyone, especially LMH and GHS-loved that scene on the bridge-I really felt JD's pain, and anger at JP for being so cold to the woman he loves (even if he didn't have a choice)-I felt like shaving off that crop of gorgeous curly hair! 'Can't wait for ep. 15 and16...
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232 Z
February 21, 2009 at 10:16 AM
I've got it! It just came to me in a brilliant flash! I've got the perfect plot line for Woobin. He should tame one of the Mean Girls! Preferably Ginger (can you imagine the conversation: "Oh... My... God!" "Yo, yo, my girl! Yea-ah!"). Who has connections in the Korean television industry? Make it happen!
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233 GEEKRIGHTTHERE
February 21, 2009 at 8:03 PM
hey Z,
i totally agree with you!!
that would be so interesting.
i hope we can send the director this message ^^
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234 GEEKRIGHTTHERE
February 21, 2009 at 8:18 PM
OH MY GODD!!!!
did anyone see episode 15's 7 minute preview????!!!!!
JiHOO looks so different. his hairstyle looks
similar to jaejoong's!!!! aaaahhhhhh.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rja4cbbiGgc
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235 OHmyGULAY
February 21, 2009 at 9:40 PM
I MUST give props to the entire cast for their acting (although I couldn't help but cringe everytime Won Bine said `Yo, yo, yo).
LMH was fantastic in this episode, and I must say, I find his interpretation much more realistic than the other adaptations.
GHS did a great job in this episode as well, and showed why she deserved this role. I find that she's much better in serious, less comedic roles.
KB - well I FINALLY understand and see the depth in his character - Gaeul's insight in the past episodes and his reasons for acting like a playboy.
KHJ improved, more facial expressions. You could say that I'm a bit biased when I say that I like him because I totally fell for him in We Got Married. Honestly, if I did not watch that show I would have criticized him much more for his acting...
However, one thing bothers me though - wasn't the scenes in Macau shot earlier than previous episodes? If so, can't we reasonably conclude that their acting got worse? Just thinking about this scares me. Someone please enlighten me.
Ok, more ranting:
I agree with this: "I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up."
The Korean version is different in this regard; instead of kids playing adults, they try to portray Jan Di and the F4 as kids growing up. (which I find more realistic)
PS:
The previews I saw just CRUSHED me. Ji Hoo comes FIRST again and gives Jan Di those shoes. *arghhhh >=[
PPS:
I like how people come here to analyze & interpret the show as they see it. It's definitely better than reading Youtube comments with putdowns, insults and scary fangirls screaming I LOVE [insert name here].
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236 elmo
February 21, 2009 at 10:14 PM
okay that was a pretty good episode but i harsh cracked up at jihoo's friend. since i dont speak korean i can't tell if his is really good or not, but he seemed really happy, like seriously, not just acting, but seriously really happy to be in the scene.
that aside, it was a good episode
no complaints against jan di
except for the way she eats
...lol
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237 rcc
February 22, 2009 at 5:25 AM
I just finished a marathon week of catching up on all of the episodes of BOF. I've been out of the kdrama scene for about 6 months and this thing has got me HOOKED. You are right, it's a lot like crack.
The storyline is flawed, the writing is a bit awkward, the music is RANDOM but for some reason you still eat up every single minute and then sit around like a heroin addict waiting for the next hit until the next episode comes out. It's a little bit insane really. I have a lot of thoughts to purge so I'm gonna get it all out here...
I don't care what anyone says. The F4 of Hana Yori Dango was NOT CUTE and the acting was embarassingly bad. I couldn't get past the 2nd episode. When I heard that there was going to be a Korean version I rejoiced.
I think the cast of BOF is great and hands down I think Lee Min Ho is carrying a lot of this. He's a solid actor and is really believable as Jun Pyo. I also like his sister, who while only in a few eps was a nice addition to the cast. The rest of F4 is spot on with the adorable Kim Bum as a fave. I'm way way way too old to have a crush on a youngin' like Kim Bum but he's honestly too cute as the playboy with a heart. I cannot wait until him and Ka Guel get together. It's a good match for sure.
Ok, I'm not a huge fan of Jan Di. Her styling is sometimes so strange that it's distractiing and I find the character very inconsistent. Sometimes strong and prideful other times completely idiotic and helpless. How does one person get herself nearly killed/maimed/assaulted on such regular basis? Can roundhouse her bestfriend's cheating boyfriend but can't get her suitcase from an 8 year old?
For this episode:
- OMG. I cringed at the end. WHY ARE THEY STILL IN MACAU?! I hope there is a point to the random man-lover. Leave Macau now. We're done here.
- Stop with the 8 million flashbacks. We had about 20 minutes of just flashbacks plus 20 minutes of looking longingly into the distance in this episode. Come on now, let's get the story moving along.
- Two thumbs up for AngryYiSung.
- Bridge scene was awesome. Gondola scene that followed was one of JD's better scenes.
Lastly, everyone has 2 grandpa's right? Maybe for JH, 1 of his gramps was president and the other one is the doctor?
Phew. I feel better now getting all of that out. Thanks Dramabeans for a great recap.-
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238 lildebbie464
February 22, 2009 at 2:02 PM
i LOVE your recaps
but i'm pretty sure its called boys OVER flowers
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239 sleepless in wgtn
February 22, 2009 at 5:41 PM
I cannot agree more with comment # 200 by crzycpl, the GJP role seems to have been made for LMH in the same way that CHK role was made for Gong Yoo.
In fact, for me, LMH is a younger version of GY in terms of effective, realistic and credible facial expressions, being able to show angst and despair just with facial expression.
Gong Yoo could have been an alternative GJP if BBF was made when GY was in his early 20's, maybe around the time he made Biscuit Teacher.
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240 ladyjumong1
February 23, 2009 at 7:55 AM
BBfan, I just remembered-Jihoo was also the first to make breakfast for Jandi (you know, the pancakes in ep. 12)
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241 bethany
February 23, 2009 at 5:11 PM
nothing to add that all these 238 other comment-ers havent already said. congrats, yet again for fabulous recaps. we're more than halfway so im curious to see how they twist and turn and pull everything together.
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242 Delia Rago
February 27, 2009 at 10:26 PM
enjoyed reading all the comments havent seen the episode yet but feeling ive seen it already with your recaps... thanks a lot will proceeds to recap episode 15
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243 nomnomnom
March 28, 2009 at 12:22 AM
Did anyone notice the incredible and almost sudden intimacy between Ji-Hoo and Jan-Di in the masked Hide-and-Seek game? It just seemed utterly and entirely uncharacteristic of their otherwise cautious relationship up until that point. There was some REALLY REALLY obvious touching/feeling there and some hot dog/hot dog bun type of hugging. I mean, I didn't think it was necessarily a BAD thing, since it just means that Ji-Hoo is on screen and I love that man, but it was SO abrupt and just AS abrupt as the crazy random game that they were playing (with no transition into those scenes except for, "do you remember what we used to do here (Macau) when we were little?" And THAT'S IT. I was definitely having a "wtf" moment, I dunno about everyone else.
About the actress for Jan-Di being better fitted for more serious roles rather than ditzy/comedic ones, I guess I could agree, but I would phrase it as more like, she's a very gifted actress in the first place and she just happens to be able to play characters in difficult emotional situations extremely well. Much of the script is way too overloaded with unnecessary lines (like most Asian dramas) that destroy the opportunity to communicate messages from nonverbal expression only, but Jan-Di's characters had a surprisingly larger dose of free-reign in episode 14. Jun-Pyo's character too!
By the way, I find the actor for Jun-Pyo ABSOLUTELY amazing?!?! The actress for Jan-Di has a big pile of fame under her, but the actor for Jun-Pyo didn't have much beyond some comercials and a small, not-too-popular, earlier TV series. How did anyone not notice his crazy skills before?? That guy is GOOD at acting. Real good. His acting is by far the most enjoyable to watch out of all the characters on BBF. =)
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244 Lee Min Ho
April 27, 2009 at 1:04 AM
hey guys :)
i am hapy that you all like my show i hope you watch till the end . thanks and thanks and thanks .
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245
September 1, 2009 at 2:56 AM
hi jun pyo your so handsome i want to meet you in kama
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246
October 27, 2009 at 1:24 PM
hey boys befofore Flowers; episode ... i love you lot him
from; nivi jatana
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247 nivi
October 27, 2009 at 1:32 PM
Hey boys before Flwwers; Episode... hey it's me angina nivi my boyfriend heony
i love you lot crazy's
from; nivi jatana
here is email [email protected]
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248 NeeKowLL
January 18, 2010 at 6:22 AM
Thankiies so much for every episode recap !
I actually just came on here to look for the name of Ji Hoo's friend in Macau but wow ! O__O" You give in soo much info heheh =]]
I think I wanna read every episode recap that you composed before watching the entire series again.
I had already finished the whole thing 2 months ago and I still haven't quite understood the whole drama with insight yet, but wow !!! You recaps make "oohhh" and "ahhh" I swear... It's like .. "Why didn't I notice that ?" LOL.
But yes .. Thank you so much ! :)
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249 alesha
January 19, 2010 at 5:03 PM
what!!!!!!!!!
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250 MaSiuLing
July 30, 2010 at 5:57 AM
Sometimes I think it's quite unfair that we don't appreciate the good acting GHS is putting in especially in the scene with LMH telling her to go away on the bridge.
She acts out emotional scenes so well but the site has been bombarded with raves about the guys only.
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