Boys Before Flowers: Episode 14
by javabeans
And the schizophrenia continues, because I really liked Episode 14. I don’t even think I would’ve gotten (that) drunk in our hypothetical Illogical Moments Drinking Game (although, let’s face it, there’s always going to be a reason for SOME drinky-drink in a BBF episode).
I didn’t hate Episode 13 — it’s just that it had so many problems, and BBF’s problems tend to be glaring and un-ignorable — but Episode 14 worked for me on several different levels. I love angst when it’s done well and not just manufactured out of nothing. The angst levels in 14 made sense and produced some great scenes with most (all?) of the characters.
SONG OF THE DAY
G.O.D. – “사랑이 힘들때” (When Love Gets Difficult), with Lim Jeong-hee. Yes, G.O.D. is no longer together, but they’re like my go-to comfort kpop group. My favorite part of the song is the child chorus that goes, “However beautiful, however strong, I guess love still breaks down when things get difficult. Could we be the only ones who still believe that love conquers all?” [ Download ]
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(You know, looking through my songs, it occurs to me that we could probably reconstruct the whole plot of Boys Before Flowers purely in G.O.D. song titles. Hmm. Will have to think on that.)
EPISODE 14 RECAP
At the Venetian casino-hotel, Jan-di sadly recalls how Jun-pyo ignored her. (Anyone else laugh out loud at the gondolier singing “Con te partiro” at the top of his lungs?)
Not to be outdone, another voice starts singing a different song: Ha Jae-kyung belts “Santa Lucia” from her gondola. She’s not a great singer, and I’m not sure if she is being jokey/mocking. If so, it’s kind of awesome. Particularly since she’s switched places with her gondolier — she takes the oar while he sits back like a passenger.
The guys remark that the girl is embarrassing, but Jan-di recognizes her and says she’s really cool. They wonder how she knows her; Jan-di answers that the girl saved her life. Woo-bin protests that saving Jan-di is their thing (in a cute, “Wait, what about us?” way). Guys, guys, don’t worry — Jan-di needs saving so often, there’s plenty to go around.
For those wondering how Jun-pyo can suddenly be made head of Shinhwa Group, he isn’t the only executive. Madam Kang still carries the title of 회장, which is like president or chair. Jun-pyo’s a managing director, which means he carries authority as a senior executive — but he’s not the sole power running Shinhwa. (Not that this plot point is realistic to begin with.)
Jun-pyo and Madam Kang greet their business associates, the heads of JK Group, who have been courted to work with Shinhwa in their global venture. The couple explain that their daughter, Jae-kyung, is off touring Macau alone, then compliment Mama Kang on her handsome son. Mom beams.
F3 take Jan-di to dinner at one of their favorite restaurants, but Ji-hoo, who leads the group, spots Jun-pyo inside. Before the others have a chance to see, he turns and announces that he wants to go somewhere else. He shoots the guys a Meaningful Look, and they catch on quickly, changing their minds casually to keep Jan-di from guessing why.
Ji-hoo pauses to shoot a hard look in Jun-pyo’s direction, and I really think he should just be angry all the time. I didn’t find him interesting as the gentle prince (too bland and supposedly perfect), but he’s much more compelling being angry.
At the dinner table with Jae-kyung’s parents, Jun-pyo receives emailed photos on his phone. His expression grows troubled when he opens the messages surreptitiously to find a series of photos of Jan-di. The sender isn’t shown, but I’m guessing this is Mr. Jung working on Jun-pyo’s instructions.
Mama Kang notices his inattention and breaks in to interrupt his photo-time.
Attuned to Jan-di’s gloom, Ji-hoo asks if she regrets coming and whether she has a plan. She takes the philosophical approach — at least she got to visit a nice place — and says she doesn’t have a plan. “But it would be nice just to be able to see him and ask, ‘How’ve you been? I’ve been okay.'”
She wonders, “Isn’t it strange? It feels like it was ages ago that we were together. If he really does act like he doesn’t know me, I’ll wonder if I just dreamed it on my own.”
Ji-hoo answers firmly, “It’s not a dream. If it were, it wouldn’t have been so painful. After sending you off, I realized that I’d done nothing all this time. When I came to my senses, you were on the plane. So it’s not a dream. Because you’re in front of me now.”
Maybe he feels he’s revealed too much, because he abruptly says goodnight and leaves. Left alone, Jan-di breathes on the glass, then writes the character ㅈ (equivalent to “J”), but stops there.
Mr. Jung tries to convince Jun-pyo to meet F4, but Jun-pyo flatly refuses, reminding him that he has no time for playing around with friends. Therefore, Mr. Jung must go out of his way to coordinate with Yi-jung; citing a business meeting, he delivers Jun-pyo to a basketball court.
Seeing F3 waiting for him, Jun-pyo contains his reaction and says, devoid of any warmth, “Nice to see you.” Ji-hoo: “Do you mean that? Doesn’t seem like it.”
Yi-jung expects Jun-pyo to be happy that Jan-di came too, but Jun-pyo responds, “And why do I have to see her? Girls like her don’t mean anything to me now.” Yi-jung realizes, “So you not calling Jan-di was intentional?”
Jun-pyo says carelessly, “Intentional or not, I didn’t have time to bother worrying about stuff like that.” Being the most perceptive, Ji-hoo has guessed much of this and is not surprised, but Yi-jung and Woo-bin are taken aback at the extent of Jun-pyo’s coldness.
Growing angry, Yi-jung asks, “You call yourself a man?” Jun-pyo reminds him that the guys have all dated around, “So can’t I?” Yi-jung retorts that he may have dated around a lot, “but I never acted like you!” and lunges at Jun-pyo.
Woo-bin holds him back. Yi-jung glares: “What did you tell us back when we tried to stop you? You said a man takes responsibility from the beginning through the end!” Jun-pyo scorns, “And you believed it? No way you guys believed we would make it in the end.”
That’s too much. Yi-jung grabs Jun-pyo’s jacket and bursts out, “Whose fault is it that Jan-di can’t swim anymore?!” There’s a brief flicker of surprise in Jun-pyo’s expression before Yi-jung punches him.
Woo-bin tells Yi-jung to calm down, but Yi-jung snarls that he won’t: “Listen to what that asshole’s saying!” He reminds Jun-pyo: “I warned you. I told you not give encouragement too easily, you coward!”
Jun-pyo gripes, “Did you quit being my friend and all rush to be Jan-di’s black knights? If you came here as friends, then enjoy yourselves before going home. But if you even think about mentioning her name, leave immediately.”
Jun-pyo starts to walk away, but stops at Woo-bin’s question, “Why have you changed?” Without turning back, he responds:
Jun-pyo: “700 thousand. That’s the number of Shinhwa employees and family members I have to take responsibility for — 700 thousand. Try taking on 700 thousand lives, and see if you don’t change.”
Jan-di waits to hear the results of F3’s meeting with Jun-pyo, and can tell from their expressions that it was not good. Yi-jung figures she should know the truth, and Woo-bin explains that he’s changed a lot and probably been under a lot of stress.
Jan-di guesses, “He won’t see me?” They’re surprised she knew, but she assures them not to worry about her: “Whatever he has to say, I came to hear it directly from him. I’ll have to face him.”
They’re relieved at Jan-di’s ready acceptance of the truth, and impressed at her attitude. Feeling much better, Woo-bin suggests an old game — hide and seek in masks. Which… actually looks really fun.
Prince Song is named “It,” so everyone else scatters to hide.
Ji-hoo pulls Jan-di into his corner to escape Woo-bin’s notice. She’s having a good time until she looks up and sees Jun-pyo on the large TV screen, which kills the lively atmosphere. She starts to sob, and Ji-hoo comforts her.
That night, Ji-hoo calls out a reluctant Jun-pyo to ask for a favor — that Jun-pyo meet Jan-di just once.
Jun-pyo: “Why would you ask for that kind of favor?”
Ji-hoo: “Because that’s the only thing I can do for her right now.”
This ties into Ji-hoo’s earlier comment that he realized how he’d done nothing thus far. A flashback shows us the day Jan-di left for Macau, when she’d dropped by to tell Ji-hoo something: “After today, I’m not sure I can say these words. I’m really glad that I got to know you.”
At dawn, Ji-hoo takes Jan-di out for a “walk,” which turns out to be his way of delivering her to Jun-pyo. She approaches the bridge to find him already there, although he keeps his gaze firmly fixed away from her.
Jan-di starts hesitantly, “I was really worried after I heard about your father.” Flatly, he answers, “Thanks. Is that why you came all the way here?… As you see, I’m fine, and as you know, I’m extremely busy. Now that you know, go. Don’t bother worrying about my well-being.” (That last bit literally means: don’t presume you have the right to worry about my health, so don’t bother.)
Hurt, she takes this in. It’s only at this point that he turns to look at her:
Jun-pyo: “Do you have more to say?”
Jan-di: “Do you really mean it?”
Jun-pyo: “What do you want? You can’t be expecting me to say, ‘I’m sorry, forgive me, I’ll go back soon so wait for me,’ could you?”
Jan-di: “Why are you doing this?”
Jun-pyo: “I’ve started to wake up to reality, that’s all.”
Jan-di: “All right, I understand now. Then you really did intend to act like you didn’t see me, and to avoid meeting me. To you, I’m—”
Jun-pyo: “A stain I want to erase.”
Jan-di: “That’s cruel of you, Gu Jun-pyo. Really cruel.”
Jun-pyo: “No. I’ve always been this kind of guy. I just pretended I wasn’t.”
What can Jan-di say to that? She calms herself and tells him, “I’ll go. Take care.”
Jun-pyo returns carelessly, “Worry about yourself,” and leaves.
I LOVE this scene. Jun-pyo is so cold and mean, and although we the audience know there’s more to the story, his act in front of Jan-di is completely convincing — enough that you want to wince along with Jan-di at the force of his words.
Also, I like the line where Jun-pyo says that she couldn’t expect him to ask her forgiveness and beg her to wait — because that’s exactly what he would like to do, and he’s trying really hard to deny that.
It’s still early morning, so nobody’s in the faux courtyard but a gondolier, who takes her for a boat ride and treats her to a free song. Again, it’s “Con te partiro” (the English version of the song is called “Time to say goodbye”). I’m surprised I actually liked the song this time around — in the first scene it seemed silly, but here with Jan-di sitting alone, inside the empty shopping arcade, crying to herself while he sings… it’s sad.
(This is the “Con te partiro” version sung by “popera” singers Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli.)
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Although Jun-pyo seemed unmoved when confronting Jan-di, that is far from the truth. He bursts in on his mother, asking furiously, “Are you satisfied now? Now that everything’s the way you want, are you satisfied?”
Mama Kang replies, “I don’t know, merely hearing about the likes of that girl doesn’t make me happy.”
Jun-pyo fires back, “She’s not just ‘that kind of girl‘! She’s the first girl that I — YOUR SON — ever loved.”
Oh my GOD. How does Lee Min-ho make his eyes fill up with tears, ever so gradually, to correspond with his growing frustration? HOW?
Madam Kang asks calmly, perhaps knowing she has an ace in the pocket, whether he will throw everything away to run to the girl — the company, the employees, his future. What about his father?
Knowing that she’s going to guilt him, Jun-pyo tells her to stop, but she continues, reminding him that his father put everything into the company: “Are you going to throw him away too?… What should I do about Jan-di? Should I make it impossible for her to live anywhere in Korea?”
Jun-pyo: “Be quiet. I told you TO STOP!” He warns, “Don’t mess with Jan-di. If you break your promise, I’ll destroy everything.”
Time to check in back at home. Jan-di’s brother, Kang-san, falls ill with mysterious stomach pains, and his parents rush him to … Doctor Former President?
I is confuzzled. If a former president started practicing medicine, wouldn’t people, um, know about it? Or maybe President Grandpa has a twin brother…
To cheer up Jan-di, Ji-hoo takes her around for the day. They sightsee, watch a Cirque du Soleil-style performance, and shop — the last of which Jun-pyo happens to see as he’s passing by a storefront.
While Ji-hoo looks around, Jan-di is drawn to a pretty shoe on display — which she hastily returns when she looks at the price tag.
Jun-pyo tries to ignore this, but ends up returning to the store to claim the shoe. Only, another shopper grabs it at the same moment. Jae-kyung and Jun-pyo grapple with the shoe, both refusing to let go. (They register no recognition; I’m guessing they’ve never met, since her parents had never seen him before, either.)
Jun-pyo wrenches it from her hand, but when Mr. Jung asks if he knows Jan-di’s shoe size, he stops short. He doesn’t know, so he sizes up Jae-kyung and shoves the shoes on her feet to get an approximation.
Jun-pyo is satisfied that they’ll fit and tells her to take them off. But now that she’s in possession, she refuses and tries to run off (without paying?). In a cute sequence, Jun-pyo chases her around the store and grabs Jae-kyung, who loses her balance.
Having won, Jun-pyo walks out with the shoes.
That night, Madam Kang hears that Jan-di intends to go home the next day. Given their break-up and the fact that Jun-pyo is currently working in the conference room, she is satisfied that both sides have come to their senses and returned to their “rightful” positions.
If only she knew that Jun-pyo isn’t actually working; instead, he’s looking at photos on his computer.
Clearly this slideshow presentation is Ji-hoo’s doing, because it closes with Jan-di’s recorded video message. A tear slips from Jun-pyo’s eye as it plays, after which he stands up purposely, as though to rush off to find her.
Just as he starts to leave, something seizes his attention — in place of the slideshow are old memories of him and his father. (The editing makes it seem for a moment that he’s watching video footage, but I’m pretty sure they’re in his head. If only because it’s crazy to think this particular conversation just happened to be recorded fifteen years ago. Not that BBF is known for its logic.) In the memories, a young Jun-pyo is with his loving father (uh, character inconsistency?), who asks, “What will you do when I’m not around?” Young Jun-pyo proudly makes a man-to-man promise, “I’ll take care of Mom, Noona, and Shinhwa Group.”
It’s his guilty conscience flaring, to keep him from throwing away his position for Jan-di. Torn between both very strong impulses, Jun-pyo bellows in frustration and sinks to the ground.
The next day, Ji-hoo and Jan-di check out of the hotel. I wonder if Ji-hoo is expecting Jun-pyo to show, but instead he’s recognized by someone else, an old friend. (The actor is Haiming, Chinese member of kpop group A’ST1; the character is shortened to “Ming.”)
Ming is thrilled to see Ji-hoo, but disappointed that they’re leaving today. Sensing that Jan-di is the key to convincing them to stay one more day, he gains her approval — then pushes her aside to cozy up to Ji-hoo. It’s hilarious at how much he adores Ji-hoo. I’m not sure if he loves him or is IN LOVE with him, but in any cause, it’s pretty amusing.
Ming takes them to his fancy home and prepares a lavish spread — all to impress Ji-hoo, of course. He and Jan-di engage in a silent battle over the food — Jan-di reaches for the delicious dishes, while Ming moves them away, offering them to Ji-hoo instead.
When Ji-hoo in turn passes the food to Jan-di, she eats with petty triumph. Lol.
Feeling threatened by Jan-di’s claim on Ji-hoo’s affections, Ming tells him grumpily, “She’s not pretty,” and highlights all her shortcomings. He asks if they’re dating, so Ji-hoo asks what Ming thinks.
Ming: “It seems that you like her. When you look at her, you smile, like back then.”
Ji-hoo: “Back then?”
Ming: “Like with Seo-hyun.”
Finally giving in to the impulse, Jun-pyo tries to call Jan-di’s hotel room, only to find that she’s already checked out.
He assumes that means they’ve headed back to Korea, but Mr. Jung informs him that they’re still in the country, visiting a friend. That’s news to Jun-pyo, who wonders who the friend is, but when Mr. Jung offers to find out, Jun-pyo tells him not to bother. (Mr. Jung smiles at this proof that Jun-pyo still cares.)
So Jan-di and Ji-hoo go sightseeing some more, and it is gorgeous.
COMMENTS
I don’t know why I have so much to say about 1 hour of television, and I’m trying to keep things concise (ha!), but sorry in advance for rambling on so. I can’t seem to help it.
Anyway. I feel like PD Jeon just discovered how to shoot reflections in this episode, based on the sheer number of them we got, like —
There were a few standout scenes, which altogether include pretty much everyone in the main cast. So yeah, Episode 14 totally stepped up its game. (Just don’t hold your breath for Episode 15, based on our established pattern.)
One example: The F4 basketball scene. I LOVE that Yi-jung is the one who gets mad. It’s notable that Woo-bin tells Yi-jung to calm down because all series long, Yi-jung has been the one to tell people to calm down whenever they got upset. Perhaps Ji-hoo could have filled that role, but I’m glad Yi-jung was the one to throw the punch, for a few reasons:
First, we’ve seen plenty of Angry Ji-hoo (which I consider a good thing), so we already know how much he cares. Second, we already had a direct Ji-hoo versus Jun-pyo conflict in earlier episodes, so Yi-jung’s reaction gives us a different spin, as it involves someone who doesn’t have romantic feelings for Jan-di. I think that highlights just how badly Jun-pyo is treating Jan-di on a basic friend-to-friend level, that Yi-jung (and Woo-bin) also find his behavior appalling, not just Ji-hoo. And third, I’m thinking Yi-jung has been set off-kilter by Ga-eul’s insight (in Episode 13) into his fear of true love, etc., so his anger at Jun-pyo mistreating Jan-di is given an added layer of meaning. (Sorta like, I’m scared to death of finding true love, and you’ve got it in front of you, and you’re just going to trample all over it like this?)
I’m not jumping ship to root for the Jun-pyo and Jae-kyung pair, but I thought they were really cute together, and this is the first outsider love interest that made me nervous — which, yay! I never felt that the Jun-di pair was really endangered until this episode, and while I don’t think Jae-kyung will upset the order too much, I’m very glad that it at least makes me uneasy.
As for the scene with Madam Kang… I don’t even think I have to say much about it. It was GREAT.
And then, of course, the bridge scene. I am a big fan of this interpretation of Jun-pyo’s character, and part of that is because cruelty can be so much harsher when it’s quiet and contained, rather than overt tantrum-ing. Both Jun-pyo and Madam Kang do that beautifully. He can lash out in violence, too, but he’s at his worst when he’s in control, and wielding his cold cruelty with surgical precision.
That’s why this whole personality about-face — which, yes, I know was in the original — actually seems very in character for the way Jun-pyo has been established. (Like he said, he’s not becoming cold — he was always cold.) Also, we’re given the hint that Jun-pyo made a deal with his mother to do her bidding in exchange for leaving Jan-di alone. Therefore, his attitude change doesn’t feel like a weird personality morph that sprang up as an artificial plot contrivance; it actually feels like a natural development. (I know! I used “natural” to describe Boys Before Flowers!)
I really enjoyed Hana Yori Dango — I loved the manga over-the-topness and the cheesy storylines, which worked for that format. But what I appreciate — and what feels different — about Boys Before Flowers is that this second part feels… kinda real, actually. (Not necessarily plot-wise — but emotionally, oh yeah.) I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up.
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151 stalkingfraud
February 18, 2009 at 7:56 AM
thanks javabean :)
i always read your recaps if i cant watch the ep. x)
on youtube and stuff people are hating on joonpyo. i dont think theres a thing to hate on him. hes just taking responsibilty. im sure he loves jandi. he even cried.
ah, i agree with all of you!
minho is a GREAT actor and im sure we'll see more in the future !
lee minho hwaiting!
boys over flower hwaiting!
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152 sheepish
February 18, 2009 at 8:07 AM
Thanks v. much for the recap! It's so much fun to read and it helps me gather my thoughts together to form an opinion about the episode. As you said, Episode 14 was indeed filled with moments of pure AWESOMENESS (kudos mostly to Lee MinHo for being the greatest newbie actor evar)... I just keep replaying the confrontation with mummy and the tear-then-roar-in-frustration-scene in the conference room over and over and over again. He's amaazzziinnngg.
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153 backstage
February 18, 2009 at 8:38 AM
jaekyung-junpyo pairing indeed looks so real~
theyre cute and if i dint know any better i wouldve leaned towards them..
which gives way for jihoo-jandi pairing!!!yeyness
annoying thing: no gaeul-jiyung!!!!noooo~~
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154 jae
February 18, 2009 at 8:46 AM
Gawd. I so can taste and feel Gu Jun Pyo's pain.... damn his mom. Uuuggghh.
Anyway, thanks for the gorgeous recaps. ^^
@backstage. yes, the lack of yijung-ga eul loving is saaaaddd. but of course, we can't focus on them as of yet, no? or else, there wouldn't be anymore pairings to spice BBF up.. ehehe.
@red lips... 24 eps all in all.
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155 reenna
February 18, 2009 at 8:52 AM
hi javabeans...
your comment about basketball scene is ALL the same as my thinking...(",)
this scene is so interesting since the one who REALLY REALLY upset with JunPYo behaviour to JanDi is YiJung and not JiHoo. When i heard all the words YiJung said to JunPYo, I also suddenly remember what GaEul said in the previous episode. i really love YiJung in this scene....^_^
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156
February 18, 2009 at 9:50 AM
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The editing makes it seem for a moment that he’s watching video footage, but I’m pretty sure they’re in his head. If only because it’s crazy to think this particular conversation just happened to be recorded fifteen years ago. Not that BBF is known for its logic.
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interesting theory, and it would have work, assuming that was the producer's intention, if only the laptop did not show the same footage. they should have made the laptop go blank or the jandi movie frame freezes, or not showing the laptop at all for viewers to think that the images of him and his father were conjured from inside his mind. it will still be confusing though, even with that approach. Personally i thought that was one BAD editing/directing right there! Scenes that confuses people when they shouldn't, or without intention, is plain bad. Unless they want us viewers to think jihoo is 'bad' for putting that father-son footage in there together with jandi's pictures and videos. By the way, how on earth did jihoo get his hands on those pictures? did junpyo stole them from his mom and hand them over to jihoo for safekeeping, once upon a time? In the first place, I am forever surprise how those pictures got shot anyway. From the angle and direction of the photos, it was surprising they (at least junpyo) didn't notice they were being photographed. Some of the angle are like impossible to produce such close-up pictures without being noticed, even with the best zoom you can get. You just have to get closer to the point of should-have-been-noticed-by-someone kind of distance. Especially at the golf course.
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157
February 18, 2009 at 10:12 AM
"I’m not sure if he (Ming) loves him or is IN LOVE with him, but in any cause, it’s pretty amusing."
'beans, he is soooooooooo IN LOVE (or still seriously CRUSHING), it isn't funny. And it'd be creepy/icky if he hadn't mentioned that he and Ji Hoo had been at Juilliard together. (for those unfamiliar with Juillard, it's a renowned uni alternative in New York City for performing arts) Having gone there, Ji Hoo is probably inured to gay crushes, especially when the gay party knows that he's straight ;) He certainly wasn't offended with Master Porridge swooning over him in previous ep. lol
Anyhoo, thanks for reminding me that the Macau scenes were shot in December. Because during entire ep, I was fixated on the fact that Jan Di wasn't wearing the star/moon necklace Jun Pyo gaver her!!!
Gawd, this ep totally killed me! But for reasons unrelated to BBF. And why, oh why, pick "Con te partiro" of all songs???? Now, let me get backing to picking up pieces of my shattered heart...
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158 Arivle
February 18, 2009 at 11:09 AM
I GOT SAID THAT I LOVE YOUR RECAPS THEY ARE AWSOME.........IT REALLY MAKES ME THINK ABOUT THE WHOLE EPISOE AFTERMATH............THAT SAID...
I LOVE THIS EPISODE IT WAS HEARTWRETCHING BUT NOT TOO MELODRAMATIC FOR MY TASTE IT WAS JUST RIGHT......BUT THERE WERE SOME SCENES/CLIPS THAT LEFT ME WONDERING......LIKE WHAT JUST HAPPENED.....???? U GUYS ALREADY MENTIONED
1. THE SCENE WHERE GJP ALMOST RAN OFF TO JANDI....AND WE SEE THE CLIP OF DAD AND HIM.... THAT LEFT ME PUZZLE CAUSE I WAS WONDERING IS HE IMAGEN IT OR EVIL MOM PUT THAT CLIP SOMEWHERE..........BIG MISTAKE DIRECTOR/EDITOR U ARE CONFUSING THE PUBLIC.........OVERALL GREAT SCENE
2. DID MOM DO SOMETHING PRIOR TO GJP BURSTING IN HER OFFICE MAD AS HELL ......I THOUGH WERE DOES THAT COME FROM......I LOVE THE INTERACTION BETWEEN BOTH ACTORS U CAN FEEL THE TENTION....LOVE WHEN GJP SAID "I'LL DESTROYED EVERYTHING" THE MOM WAS SPEECHLESS....
3 WHERE DOES JIHOO FRIEND COME FROM OUT OF THE BLUE OR SOMETHING F3 NEVER METION THAT HE HAD A FRIEND WHO LIVE THERE....CAUGHT ME OF GUARD.............BUT HEY BOF SOMETIMES DOESN'T MAKE SENSE............LOL......
GREAT SCENES
1. BRIDGE.... HANDS DOWN BAR NONE THE BEST EVER............BOTH ACTORS DELIVERED SOME GREAT STUFF HERE...........
2. BASKETBALL COURT.....F3 REALLY CARES FOR JANDI AND ARE WILLING TO PROTECT HER EVEN FROM GJP.........THAT WHAT I CALLED FRIENDSHIP. GJP DESERVED THE PUNCH ALL THE ARROGANCE..........
3. ALL THE SCENES INVOLVING JIHOO AND JAN DI....THE ICE CREAM, THE THEATER, SHOPPING, THE ARCADE.....JIHOO LOVES HER, BUT HE KNOWS JANDI NEEDS A FRIEND FOR NOW....
4. GJP BUYING THE SHOES FOR JANDI......HE LOVES HER.....BUT I'M WONDERING HOW IS GOING TO GIVE THE SHOES TO JANDI..........????
5. JANDI FIGHTING OVER THE FOOD WITH THE GAY GUY....SUPER CUTE AND FUNNY.....THE GIRL CAN EAT ANYTHING THAT IS FOR SURE..............
LASTLY.........
I WOULD HAVE LOVED FOR JIHOO TO TELL GJP THAT SINCE HE DOESN'T LOVE JANDI HE IS WILLING TO LOVE HER AND WIN HER OVER........THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT CAUSE GJP WOULD HAVE........EXPLODED AND HATED HIMSELF PRIVATLEY.............
I WOULD HAVE LOVED FOR JANDI TO HAND OVER HER MOON NECKLANCE OVER GJP IN THE BRIDGE SCENE THAT WOULD HAVE KILLED GJP......SHE SHOULD HAVE SAID "I GUESS THE MOON AND STAR CAN LIVE SEPERATLY" THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE ICING ON THE CAKE....LOL.....
LOOKING FOWARD FOR NEXT WEEK....AND I HOPE THAT GJP BEGGS FOR JANDI FORGIVNES...A TRIP TO PARIS......JANDI NEEDS TO GIVE JIHOO A CHANCE AND SHE NEEDS TO STAND FIRM ONCE GJP RETURNES....AND MAKE HIM SUFFER...............
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159 indriani
February 18, 2009 at 11:30 AM
BEST ADAPTATION OF HANADAN SO FAR! I CANT GET ENOUGH OF GU JUN-PYO! NICE POTRAYAL! =D
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160 Yin
February 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM
thanks for the caps!
I PETITION FOR WOOBIN TO GET MORE LINES.
XD
anyways, I know i've been an avid junpyo/jandi fan, and usually i hate hyunjoong's acting. BUT THE DUDE HAS IMPROVED. I spazzed a little at his [reallllly good] chinese.
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161 *disappears*
February 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM
>> i think i know why Jandi's brother is having those stomach pains. i recall a scene from a couple episodes ago when Jandi found out her brother refuses to eat lunch to save money. As a result, he probably got ulcer & if it reaches a certain stage--he will eventually have to get surgery of some sort =[
>>LMH's acting in the scenes where he was confronting his mom, Jandi in the bridge, & while looking at pictures in the dark room---was out of this world. Jun's acting in HYD series was very convincing, and i never thought anyone could beat him. But LMH's interpretation & execution of GJP's character is amazing, hands down.
>>i love how YiJung took GaEul's words to heart. Ever since the last scene they spoke to each other, YiJung began treating GJP and JD's relationship differently. Like in the basketball scene, he finally stood up for JD against JP's shattering love. He reveals his true-self--that he really does believe there are people out there that are meant for each other, despite all his denial.
>>dramabeans, i agree with you in this:
"I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up."
----well, except for Jandi's current situation. i'd like to see more of her character development in the coming episodes.
anyway, thanks for the recaps! i really love analyzing things.
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162
February 18, 2009 at 12:27 PM
yoon jihoo. marry me!
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163 omo! kekeke..
February 18, 2009 at 12:38 PM
the song Time to say Goodbye brought back so much memories from
my italian class. the lyrics really matched the scene. i probably would
have been bawling IF i hadn't had so much inside jokes.. xD
When Woobin said that that girl was disgracing korea, it sorta reminded
me of myself [in a different way, of course] heeeeheeee...
Also, Woobin worked that mask. It reminds me of Goong.., but anyways..
his body language had me bursting in laughter.!..
.. then i teared up again when Jandi just had to see that Shinhwa ad.
waaaahhhhh ='[
i thought it was cute when GJP stuck his tongue out after snatching away
girly shoes from his future fiance. if i were the girl, i would've just
kicked his balls and run away. anyway, i like the silly/childish GJP better.
i sense that jihoo's friend is gay. & jihoo wearing pink as they walk
together shoulders linked, totally had me laughing AGAIN.
*i love how they add these funny scenes in the drama. this episode
was just too heartbreaking that i had to point out the funny scenes.
ok, i think im going on denial. NO, im not. shouldn't. ugghhh.
these mood swings! seriously. i gotta snap out of it! THANKS, BYE.
(xD)
i...said BYE.!
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164 hajung
February 18, 2009 at 12:45 PM
Is it just for me that the download link is weird? It goes to mediafire and when I click download it says:
Firefox can't find the server at 3zdmjygj1dmg.
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165 lily
February 18, 2009 at 12:58 PM
"dramabeans, i agree with you in this:
“I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up.”
LMAO I so don't agree with you!!! And I think this is a lame excuse to make BOF better.
When I see the characters of BOF, I see no development .
Jun Pyo has always been mature. I see no diffrence between the Jun Pyo of Episode 1and the one of episode 14. I see a character who use too much his sexuality (What I don't think Domyoji would do). Domyoji at first is a child who grows up. I saw that with Jun Matsumoto. I mean the Domyoji of season 1 Episode 1 is different of the Domyoji of season 2 Episode 9. He grows up.
Jan-di actress looks Old but the character has not changed. She is still stupid while Makino growing open mind to Domyoji and his world is smartly and smoothly executed.
Soujiro of Japan doesn't look like a child like Kim Bum. Sorry you can be a Kim Bum fangirls but admit his character looks anything but mature!! He can't act playboy or hit on a woman for nuts! he is not even convincing when he tries to use his "playboy side" to explain his behaviour to Ga-Eul.
WooBin annoying yo yo yo man is the least mature character of (so called)F4. Sorry but don't tell me he looks and act more mature than Tsuyoshi Abe Akira!
And please no comment about stiff man (when I look at the pics it's all I see). I mean Oguri Shun didn't look ridiculous with Shizuka! Sometime KHJ looks gay. No offense.
Sorry Korean characters (with all the cheesiness, fakeness and flaws you even show in your own reviews) are anything but mature.
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166 MishLovesBeingOdd
February 18, 2009 at 12:59 PM
I'm so frustrated with myself! Why do I like the fiancee when i KNOW she's only going to increase the tension between junpyo and jandi?!?! And was anyone else SO sad that we still aren't seeing much of the GaEul-Yijung couple?!?!
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167 MishLovesBeingOdd
February 18, 2009 at 1:01 PM
btw javabeans i love how so often you point out things that i would never have even thought about, like why yijung seemed SO emotional this time round most likely due to GaEul's words. After reading that it made perfect sense but i would NEVER have come up with that one my own lol
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168 yay
February 18, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Thanks for the recap!
LMH was exceptional in this episode.
It just confirms that his portrayal of Junpyo (Tsukasa) is my favorite out of all the three.
I felt all the emotions that were welling up inside him without him saying much.
And I agree with you Javabeans, this is the first time I feel uneasy and threatened by this outside pairing of Junpyo and Jaekyung (even though I already know the outcome haha.) They look GOOD together even in that brief scene.
Oh yeah, I love this development in Yi Jung's character. There's so much more than what meets the eye with this guy.
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169 mochimochiii
February 18, 2009 at 1:43 PM
omg yeah the acting in this ep was great!
plus the sceneries were awesome (especially the hotel... makes me wanna go back to vegas)!
and the gondolier singing "time to say goodbye" the second time around... man, that was painful... i totally felt jan di's pain =(
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170 Joonni
February 18, 2009 at 2:05 PM
Dramabeans, i think there was mistake in your translation of the scene between ji hoo and jandi in the hotel room.
He says “It’s not a dream. If it were, it wouldn’t have been so painful. After sending you off, I realized that I’d done nothing all (DAY long)."
Which changes the next sentence to so that it becomes, " When I came to my senses, (I was) on the plane. So it’s not a dream. Because you’re in front of me now.”
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171 le
February 18, 2009 at 2:10 PM
i just loved F3&JD, it was cool how they stuck up for her, & YJ punching JP was awesome. but i do want more LMH, hopefully the next eps will.
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172
February 18, 2009 at 2:53 PM
LEE MIN HO ♥
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173 Ter
February 18, 2009 at 4:00 PM
I hate how Jan-Di keeps getting called "that kid" or "that child", u know, "ah-ee" by Min-ho. Sweet innocent spunky Jandi who is naive and needs to be protected. *vomit*
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174 alice
February 18, 2009 at 4:43 PM
Ter, do you speak Korean? I don't think there's anything wrong with it. maybe the subbers are being too literal with their translations. Sometimes he says 아이 but sometimes it's 녀석 so it's an affectionate thing to say. He just means 'don't hurt that girl,' not 'don't hurt the baby' or whatever. I don't think there are many better options, like saying 저여자 would sound kind of rude and 저사람 is a little formal.
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175 Akiddo
February 18, 2009 at 5:28 PM
*Panic!*
Dramabeans - could you shed some light on this?
There is a report in our local newspaper (Singapore) that BOF might be banned in South Korea due to the violence, possible rape scenes etc. Verdict will be out tomorrow. Is that true?
*Panic!*
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176 Philippa
February 18, 2009 at 6:09 PM
I thought that this episode was amazingggg! It was so cute!
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177 hsinya
February 18, 2009 at 6:25 PM
This show is so flawed, yet I can't stop myself from downloading the episodes every week, just to see the tiny moments of insight that peek through sometimes. I'm really looking forward to seeing most of the actors in their future work, because I think we can safely say they have a lot more to offer us.
I really liked the dynamic Jae-kyung brought into the last two episodes, and how the sparks flew on her first meeting with Jun-pyo. Cute!! But I noticed that the Korean actors spoke Mandarin when the occasion called for it, while in Macao they actually speak Cantonese. I suppose it's not an incredibly important detail, just thought I'd bring it up, just coz I can tell the difference :P
BTW, I love how you've started to write captions for your title pictures, lol!
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178
February 18, 2009 at 6:26 PM
Oh Lord! I just realized that Lee Min Ho was born in 1987. 1987!!! That's almost (but not quite) the '90s, people. You yuung 'uns out there can have him. I need to immediately stop drooling over this "boy", find another rom-com drama and spend extra effort for this year's Lent.
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179
February 18, 2009 at 6:53 PM
Ter@173: Relax, it's OK. Yes, technically, 아이 (ah-ee) is Korean for "child". But it's also a term of affection, something like "Babe (Baby), can you pick up dinner tonight?" lol, so asked I very sweetly earlier today :) And age makes no difference. My mum still calls me that (or 아가) - and without revealing my age, I'm well past Jan Di ;)
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180 Frog
February 18, 2009 at 7:04 PM
@ Liv---- Ahahhahaha! I love your comment about the slow-mo pan of characters. I felt they OD-ed on it in this episode. I, too, would like to know more details in the story than observing the number of visible pores on Ji-hoo's face.
Just skimming the past two episode's comments... I don't know if there are any out Chinese people out there... but don't you find it hilarious that Woo-Bin was conversing with the gangsters in mandarin, while they were speaking in cantonese? Hahhaa..
Although, I must say I'm very impressed by the way Fiance (it's going to take me some time to learn her name) lady delivers her Chinese. Granted, I couldn't understand it if it weren't for the subtitles... but at least she emphasized the words correctly. (within the sentence that is... not the tones of each word)
And are they serious that they spent 70 USD on 10 beef jerky?!?!?! Because they were just RIPPED OFF! and 2.5K for a pair of shoes??? I'm sure the price was listed as HKD or MOP, which would make it around I guess $300? Which is muuuuch more reasonable.
But most definitely, this was a MUCH better episode than the previous. Although I don't know how I feel about the romance between Ji Hoo and Jan Di. In any culture, I'd say his actions goes into the realm of courtship. I don't know if friends do that...but then again, I'm not Korean. So maybe they do? Are they all friendly in Korea? I don't know.
Loved Gu Jun Pyo here. and Jan di too. Totally agree with someone else in this discussion that they're more suitable for drama. Especially Jan di. I really like her when she's more serious. And I really respect Lee Min Ho. I thought this would be just another fluff drama with fluff actors (like Ji-Hoo) but Lee Min Ho ... I'll definitely be looking out for him!
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181
February 18, 2009 at 7:22 PM
Frog - LOL! FYI, Macao currency is "pataca" but expressed with $ symbol. Also, it's pegged to HK$, which is readily accepted in Macao. But given that US$/HK$ exchange is around 7.5, I'm thinking that the prices in ep were for patacas, and not HK$. Feel better? Ciao!
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182 Akiddo
February 18, 2009 at 7:25 PM
I think it is quite common these days to speak mandarin and cantonese interchageably especially after the handover (to China). Most people in HK and Macau do understand mandarin but use cantonese in the daily conversations as it is their dialect - just like hokkien in Taiwan.
Woo Bin is so adorable! His diction is not great but frankly all of them sound pretty rehearsed. cute nontheless. For once i can understand some of the conversation without english subs!
Fiancee - forgot her name - she is a cutie. Wouldn't it be nice for everyone to pair up? Jandi-Jihoo pairing is high on my wish list now. Junpyo is just not right for Jandi....he brings destruction to her life! but then again love is blind...so..we will see how things go from here....
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183
February 18, 2009 at 7:28 PM
Frog - Sorry! Disregard previous post. Wrote it while reading your post and instead of deleting, I hit the "submit" button. :(
I really wanted to respond to your comment about Ji Hoo and actions going into the realm of courtship. Trust me, not a Korean thing at all. Part of the reason why it can be difficult to have guys (or gals) as close platonic friends.
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184 sunox888
February 18, 2009 at 8:04 PM
As always, Dramabeans, you are awesome....'watched the eng subbed ep 14 sobbed and sobbed, it's over 24 hrs and still am sobbing whilst reading your recaps...best of the bunch sooo far.... am getting withdrawal each Tuesday night 'til the next Monday when I get my fix of BOF....reading your recaps as well as the ranting and raving of your readers ..... soooooo entertaining, cheap thrills, boy are there rabid fans and non fans out there... again you ROCK!!!!! Thanks once again!!!
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185 biela
February 18, 2009 at 9:42 PM
so sad seeing jun pyo suffer from his mother possesion on him....even though i haven't watch the epi yet...i makes me cried a LOT....jun pyo is going to torn up....so sad....T_T.
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186 anonymous
February 18, 2009 at 10:32 PM
I am really glad that I decided to watch this version. I really hate watching hyped up dramas, but since javabeans is enjoying it, I gave it a try and it has been worthwhile. Thank you Javabeans for always giving us insighful recaps!
After watching episode 14, I realized what was missing in episode 13 -- Go Jun Pyo. Jun Pyo only had few exposures in ep.13 and the plot suffered. This proved that the plot indeed revolves around Jun Pyo ( and maybe I was also suffering from Lee Min Ho withdrawal haha).
So what I thought about ep.14? Well, I had higher expectations since ep.13 was quite a bummer. Boy, was I blown away by this episode. Everyone seemed to have matured, but I did not find it shocking at all, since episode 13 prepared me for it.
It was unusual for me that I symphatized for Jun Pyo's situation more than for Jandi, especially after seeing the way his mother is manipulating him. Although, I do not really detest Mama Kang here because when JunPyo left the room after their confrontation, and she had that big sigh I knew she just a desperate mother wanting his son back and think that she knows what best for his son. It's nice that this version is showing some hints of the humane side of Mama Kang. Jan di on the other hand, it's great to see that she is finally showing some interest in the relationship. I cried with her when she was reminiscing in the gondola. Yet, I felt that Jan di needed to hear all those hurtful and nasty things from Jun Pyo, because it will make or made her realize how important Jun Pyo is to her. It is time for Jan Di to be the "weed" that she claims to be and stop with all those stupid acts. Go and get Jun Pyo back ( technically, JunPyo is really not 'gone'). It is now her turn to go after Jun Pyo.
The new girl Jae kyung had such chemistry with Jun Pyo, that I felt scared for Jan Di and jealous. I thought JunPyo's playful action around her was so inappropriate. I mean, how can you flirt and laugh like that when the you are on the verge of losing your girl. If I did not know the plot yet, I will feel really threatened by this new pairing.
First time after 14 episodes, that I actually thought Ji Hoo had some chemistry with JanDi. Although some of his actions made me think if he has any vested interest. hehe..I know that the reason he wanted Jun Pyo to at least just see Jan Di once because that is the only thing he can do for her and he wanted to fulfill her wish. But, I also thought, maybe he was so eager to let them meet so Jan Di can have closure, so he can make his move again haha...But yea, Ji Hoo's acting here was by far the best and I'd like to see that in the coming episodes.
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187 bjharm
February 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM
She’s the first girl that I — YOUR SON — ever loved.”
the sub I watched it made it more like it was the first woman he had loved, and I took that to mean counting his mother..ie he dosn't love her.
She seemed the wince when he said it too.
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188 christine
February 18, 2009 at 11:01 PM
javabeans...what is the title of the song playing in the scene where ji hoo is comforting jan di.. the scene where they are playing hide and seek.
i so love that song!!!
thanks a gazillion in advance!!!!^___^
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189 christine
February 18, 2009 at 11:12 PM
the only part i can understand is the "i'll be waiting for you..."part. sorry i'm not korean though i so love that song!!! it seems full of emotion. and the singer's voice is just perfect. (well for me atleast...hehehe)
thanks again a gazillion times in advance!!!!^___^
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190 sleepless in wgtn
February 18, 2009 at 11:34 PM
Hi rhymeswithwitch,
I found a site hosting a copy of the song and managed to download it.
Thanks for the song title.
Cheers!
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191 Ter
February 19, 2009 at 12:04 AM
Nupe, I don't speak korean-- well, you know, I took some korean classes here and there, but we all know how that goes. But I do know the various ways "ah-ee" is used, and that it could be used as a term for affection for any age.... but, well, I dunno, sometimes I feel like the show and the characters around her actually treat her like some naive "ah-ee" in the LITERAL sense. But then again, sometimes its not too far a stretch from what we've seen....
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192 xiaoSxin
February 19, 2009 at 12:05 AM
Congratulations to BBF!!!! episode 14 exceeded my expectations!!! it was an excellent episode, by far the best. This episode convinced me without any sheer of doubt that LEE MIN HO gave the best portrayal of Domyoji. Almost like HE IS GU JOON PYO.
Javabeans thanks for the recaps, I really enjoy your thoughts about each episode! Keep it coming!
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193 Fiona
February 19, 2009 at 2:33 AM
Episode 14 rocks! There were so many great moments.
The scene where Jan-di was sobbing behind the mask was so heart wrenching. I think what makes this especially painful was how she tried to hide her hurt behind the mask but in the end the tears just wouldn’t stop when Ji-hoo hugged her from behind. This subtle display of sorrow together with the background song, Starlight Tears, really makes the audience fill her pain. My heart aches so much in this scene. I also liked how the camera closed in on Ji-hoo and although you can’t see his face behind the mask, you could feel his haplessness (in offering her any comfort) in his body language.
At first I was a little uneasy about that scene between Jun-pyo and Jae-kyung. But thinking further, this scenario reminds me of the scenes where his sister was hitting him with the stick or pulling his ear and the one where Ji-hoo playfully ate the apple that Jan-di offered to Jun-pyo as an apology. That is, the interaction was playful in a friendly sibling way rather than romantic. What is most comforting, however, was when Jun-pyo forcefully retrieved those shoes from Jae-kyung when she refused to relinquish them. The shoes (position?) that were meant for Jan-di cannot be filled by another woman?
I also liked how the other F4 guys rally around Jan-di especially Yi-jung’s outburst at the basketball court. It is also heart-warming that Madam Kang’s assistant, Mr Jung, is secretly rooting for Jun-pyo.
As usual, Lee Min-ho’s performance stands out. I just cannot imagine anyone else playing the role of Gu Jun-pyo. To me, what defines great acting is when you can’t tell the actor from the role he is playing - Lee Min-ho IS Gu Jun-pyo.
PS – Christine, I think the song is Starlight Tears by Kim Yu Kyung
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194 JJ
February 19, 2009 at 2:33 AM
haha wow I thought they were not gonna show kim bum from the leg down until his right foot cast is off in 3 weeks but rewatching this, I noticed it in the bball court scene! haha awww poor kim bummie.
I am surprised they didn't take precautions with that like they said they would.
Javabeans here is another evidence (in addition to hyun joong's shorter hair) that the non-macau scenes were shot recently. =)
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195 NK
February 19, 2009 at 4:55 AM
I'm moved and in awe by the means that you express emotions and logic as you delve into the foray of each scene. It was as if my own thoughts came into words. Thanks.
Also, I'd wish to emphasized what you said about the portrayal being realistic. Yes, I've seen a lot of dramas before, and definitely in the days to come. Often times, when we're in the hype of a certain drama, we tend to rationalize the efficacy it has on our own emotions--perhaps in the surreality of our own cyberworlds. Perhaps, this triviality make sit impossible for us to settle strong--that is be moved not just in ephemerally--by a certain drama. However, due to the realistic portrayal of the actors or some sort or supernatural mana that the BOF possesses, it draws insights from the real world--for the real world. This appeal make sit possible for us to be utterly drawn into the story and it being attached even in our own undertakings.
Personally, though this may seem really pathetic to some, I could say that the drama has affected me much. Not just emotionally--either delivering depression from those sad scenes or happiness from the exciting plot that is continues to unfold--but in the logical decisions that I deliver. Though inevitably, logic and emotions may sometimes be inseperable, oftentimes, they really are divorced constructs. I actually believe that BOF exemplifies the unity of realistic logic and emotional appeals--in media. This rare commodity makes BOF a stnadout--addictive in a very unique sense. Perhaps something that would stay even when its all actually over.
P.S.: forgive me for ranting, i cant actually contian my thoughts and emotions now. Everything's just spontaneous. Just had to express it. :)
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196 ellie
February 19, 2009 at 6:06 AM
Javabeans,
just reading your recap of episode 14 made me cry like a river, now I'm saving my box of kleenex for the show.
Thank you very much for the insight and true enough F4 and jandi is growing up on this episode, a great difference from the jdorama version.
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197 gorilla
February 19, 2009 at 7:04 AM
Can´t wait to see episode 15. Anyone who already knows what will happend? I´m waiting for the preview for long now, but can´t find any. Thanks for this fantastic site ever! BBF is the BEST!!! :D
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198 gorilla
February 19, 2009 at 7:08 AM
One more thing, i heard that it´s gonna be like 2-3 episodes more than expect? Am I right? Hope so, can´t imagine those mondays and tuesdays without jun pyo :P hehe Guess they don´t gonna have BBF 2 ... make me sad :(
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199 snuffythemonkey
February 19, 2009 at 7:23 AM
I liked this episode because it is pure eye candy from the sceneries, beautiful rooms and gorgeous people in pretty clothes. This episode also had some intense acting which is greatly appreciated.
Thanks for the great recaps Javabeans. I love your insights and commentaries at the end too!
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200 crzycpl
February 19, 2009 at 8:16 AM
LMH is so convincing as GJP that I struggle to see who else would have been better in this role. A similar thought crossed my mind when I watch Gong Yoo in Coffee Prince. I've never seen LMH act before but boy, has this young man got a future ahead of him if he continues in this fashion!
The dialogue seems to have improved dramatically from eps 1-12. Is it because the characters have 'grown up' and are therefore able to verse with each other as adults and not silly teenagers?
I look forward to more drama ... especially the interaction between JP and President Kang. These two have major chemistry!
Thanks for the recaps and looking forward to more next week.
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