Boys Before Flowers: Episode 14

256 February 17, 2009January 24, 2016

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And the schizophrenia continues, because I really liked Episode 14. I don’t even think I would’ve gotten (that) drunk in our hypothetical Illogical Moments Drinking Game (although, let’s face it, there’s always going to be a reason for SOME drinky-drink in a BBF episode).

I didn’t hate Episode 13 — it’s just that it had so many problems, and BBF’s problems tend to be glaring and un-ignorable — but Episode 14 worked for me on several different levels. I love angst when it’s done well and not just manufactured out of nothing. The angst levels in 14 made sense and produced some great scenes with most (all?) of the characters.

SONG OF THE DAY

G.O.D. – “사랑이 힘들때” (When Love Gets Difficult), with Lim Jeong-hee. Yes, G.O.D. is no longer together, but they’re like my go-to comfort kpop group. My favorite part of the song is the child chorus that goes, “However beautiful, however strong, I guess love still breaks down when things get difficult. Could we be the only ones who still believe that love conquers all?” [ Download ]

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(You know, looking through my songs, it occurs to me that we could probably reconstruct the whole plot of Boys Before Flowers purely in G.O.D. song titles. Hmm. Will have to think on that.)

EPISODE 14 RECAP

At the Venetian casino-hotel, Jan-di sadly recalls how Jun-pyo ignored her. (Anyone else laugh out loud at the gondolier singing “Con te partiro” at the top of his lungs?)

Not to be outdone, another voice starts singing a different song: Ha Jae-kyung belts “Santa Lucia” from her gondola. She’s not a great singer, and I’m not sure if she is being jokey/mocking. If so, it’s kind of awesome. Particularly since she’s switched places with her gondolier — she takes the oar while he sits back like a passenger.

The guys remark that the girl is embarrassing, but Jan-di recognizes her and says she’s really cool. They wonder how she knows her; Jan-di answers that the girl saved her life. Woo-bin protests that saving Jan-di is their thing (in a cute, “Wait, what about us?” way). Guys, guys, don’t worry — Jan-di needs saving so often, there’s plenty to go around.

For those wondering how Jun-pyo can suddenly be made head of Shinhwa Group, he isn’t the only executive. Madam Kang still carries the title of 회장, which is like president or chair. Jun-pyo’s a managing director, which means he carries authority as a senior executive — but he’s not the sole power running Shinhwa. (Not that this plot point is realistic to begin with.)

Jun-pyo and Madam Kang greet their business associates, the heads of JK Group, who have been courted to work with Shinhwa in their global venture. The couple explain that their daughter, Jae-kyung, is off touring Macau alone, then compliment Mama Kang on her handsome son. Mom beams.

F3 take Jan-di to dinner at one of their favorite restaurants, but Ji-hoo, who leads the group, spots Jun-pyo inside. Before the others have a chance to see, he turns and announces that he wants to go somewhere else. He shoots the guys a Meaningful Look, and they catch on quickly, changing their minds casually to keep Jan-di from guessing why.

Ji-hoo pauses to shoot a hard look in Jun-pyo’s direction, and I really think he should just be angry all the time. I didn’t find him interesting as the gentle prince (too bland and supposedly perfect), but he’s much more compelling being angry.

At the dinner table with Jae-kyung’s parents, Jun-pyo receives emailed photos on his phone. His expression grows troubled when he opens the messages surreptitiously to find a series of photos of Jan-di. The sender isn’t shown, but I’m guessing this is Mr. Jung working on Jun-pyo’s instructions.

Mama Kang notices his inattention and breaks in to interrupt his photo-time.

Attuned to Jan-di’s gloom, Ji-hoo asks if she regrets coming and whether she has a plan. She takes the philosophical approach — at least she got to visit a nice place — and says she doesn’t have a plan. “But it would be nice just to be able to see him and ask, ‘How’ve you been? I’ve been okay.'”

She wonders, “Isn’t it strange? It feels like it was ages ago that we were together. If he really does act like he doesn’t know me, I’ll wonder if I just dreamed it on my own.”

Ji-hoo answers firmly, “It’s not a dream. If it were, it wouldn’t have been so painful. After sending you off, I realized that I’d done nothing all this time. When I came to my senses, you were on the plane. So it’s not a dream. Because you’re in front of me now.”

Maybe he feels he’s revealed too much, because he abruptly says goodnight and leaves. Left alone, Jan-di breathes on the glass, then writes the character ㅈ (equivalent to “J”), but stops there.

Mr. Jung tries to convince Jun-pyo to meet F4, but Jun-pyo flatly refuses, reminding him that he has no time for playing around with friends. Therefore, Mr. Jung must go out of his way to coordinate with Yi-jung; citing a business meeting, he delivers Jun-pyo to a basketball court.

Seeing F3 waiting for him, Jun-pyo contains his reaction and says, devoid of any warmth, “Nice to see you.” Ji-hoo: “Do you mean that? Doesn’t seem like it.”

Yi-jung expects Jun-pyo to be happy that Jan-di came too, but Jun-pyo responds, “And why do I have to see her? Girls like her don’t mean anything to me now.” Yi-jung realizes, “So you not calling Jan-di was intentional?”

Jun-pyo says carelessly, “Intentional or not, I didn’t have time to bother worrying about stuff like that.” Being the most perceptive, Ji-hoo has guessed much of this and is not surprised, but Yi-jung and Woo-bin are taken aback at the extent of Jun-pyo’s coldness.

Growing angry, Yi-jung asks, “You call yourself a man?” Jun-pyo reminds him that the guys have all dated around, “So can’t I?” Yi-jung retorts that he may have dated around a lot, “but I never acted like you!” and lunges at Jun-pyo.

Woo-bin holds him back. Yi-jung glares: “What did you tell us back when we tried to stop you? You said a man takes responsibility from the beginning through the end!” Jun-pyo scorns, “And you believed it? No way you guys believed we would make it in the end.”

That’s too much. Yi-jung grabs Jun-pyo’s jacket and bursts out, “Whose fault is it that Jan-di can’t swim anymore?!” There’s a brief flicker of surprise in Jun-pyo’s expression before Yi-jung punches him.

Woo-bin tells Yi-jung to calm down, but Yi-jung snarls that he won’t: “Listen to what that asshole’s saying!” He reminds Jun-pyo: “I warned you. I told you not give encouragement too easily, you coward!”

Jun-pyo gripes, “Did you quit being my friend and all rush to be Jan-di’s black knights? If you came here as friends, then enjoy yourselves before going home. But if you even think about mentioning her name, leave immediately.”

Jun-pyo starts to walk away, but stops at Woo-bin’s question, “Why have you changed?” Without turning back, he responds:

Jun-pyo: “700 thousand. That’s the number of Shinhwa employees and family members I have to take responsibility for — 700 thousand. Try taking on 700 thousand lives, and see if you don’t change.”

Jan-di waits to hear the results of F3’s meeting with Jun-pyo, and can tell from their expressions that it was not good. Yi-jung figures she should know the truth, and Woo-bin explains that he’s changed a lot and probably been under a lot of stress.

Jan-di guesses, “He won’t see me?” They’re surprised she knew, but she assures them not to worry about her: “Whatever he has to say, I came to hear it directly from him. I’ll have to face him.”

They’re relieved at Jan-di’s ready acceptance of the truth, and impressed at her attitude. Feeling much better, Woo-bin suggests an old game — hide and seek in masks. Which… actually looks really fun.

Prince Song is named “It,” so everyone else scatters to hide.

Ji-hoo pulls Jan-di into his corner to escape Woo-bin’s notice. She’s having a good time until she looks up and sees Jun-pyo on the large TV screen, which kills the lively atmosphere. She starts to sob, and Ji-hoo comforts her.

That night, Ji-hoo calls out a reluctant Jun-pyo to ask for a favor — that Jun-pyo meet Jan-di just once.

Jun-pyo: “Why would you ask for that kind of favor?”
Ji-hoo: “Because that’s the only thing I can do for her right now.”

This ties into Ji-hoo’s earlier comment that he realized how he’d done nothing thus far. A flashback shows us the day Jan-di left for Macau, when she’d dropped by to tell Ji-hoo something: “After today, I’m not sure I can say these words. I’m really glad that I got to know you.”

At dawn, Ji-hoo takes Jan-di out for a “walk,” which turns out to be his way of delivering her to Jun-pyo. She approaches the bridge to find him already there, although he keeps his gaze firmly fixed away from her.

Jan-di starts hesitantly, “I was really worried after I heard about your father.” Flatly, he answers, “Thanks. Is that why you came all the way here?… As you see, I’m fine, and as you know, I’m extremely busy. Now that you know, go. Don’t bother worrying about my well-being.” (That last bit literally means: don’t presume you have the right to worry about my health, so don’t bother.)

Hurt, she takes this in. It’s only at this point that he turns to look at her:

Jun-pyo: “Do you have more to say?”
Jan-di: “Do you really mean it?”
Jun-pyo: “What do you want? You can’t be expecting me to say, ‘I’m sorry, forgive me, I’ll go back soon so wait for me,’ could you?”

Jan-di: “Why are you doing this?”
Jun-pyo: “I’ve started to wake up to reality, that’s all.”
Jan-di: “All right, I understand now. Then you really did intend to act like you didn’t see me, and to avoid meeting me. To you, I’m—”
Jun-pyo: “A stain I want to erase.”
Jan-di: “That’s cruel of you, Gu Jun-pyo. Really cruel.”
Jun-pyo: “No. I’ve always been this kind of guy. I just pretended I wasn’t.”

What can Jan-di say to that? She calms herself and tells him, “I’ll go. Take care.”

Jun-pyo returns carelessly, “Worry about yourself,” and leaves.

I LOVE this scene. Jun-pyo is so cold and mean, and although we the audience know there’s more to the story, his act in front of Jan-di is completely convincing — enough that you want to wince along with Jan-di at the force of his words.

Also, I like the line where Jun-pyo says that she couldn’t expect him to ask her forgiveness and beg her to wait — because that’s exactly what he would like to do, and he’s trying really hard to deny that.

It’s still early morning, so nobody’s in the faux courtyard but a gondolier, who takes her for a boat ride and treats her to a free song. Again, it’s “Con te partiro” (the English version of the song is called “Time to say goodbye”). I’m surprised I actually liked the song this time around — in the first scene it seemed silly, but here with Jan-di sitting alone, inside the empty shopping arcade, crying to herself while he sings… it’s sad.

(This is the “Con te partiro” version sung by “popera” singers Sarah Brightman and Andrea Bocelli.)
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Although Jun-pyo seemed unmoved when confronting Jan-di, that is far from the truth. He bursts in on his mother, asking furiously, “Are you satisfied now? Now that everything’s the way you want, are you satisfied?”

Mama Kang replies, “I don’t know, merely hearing about the likes of that girl doesn’t make me happy.”

Jun-pyo fires back, “She’s not just ‘that kind of girl‘! She’s the first girl that I — YOUR SON — ever loved.”

Oh my GOD. How does Lee Min-ho make his eyes fill up with tears, ever so gradually, to correspond with his growing frustration? HOW?

Madam Kang asks calmly, perhaps knowing she has an ace in the pocket, whether he will throw everything away to run to the girl — the company, the employees, his future. What about his father?

Knowing that she’s going to guilt him, Jun-pyo tells her to stop, but she continues, reminding him that his father put everything into the company: “Are you going to throw him away too?… What should I do about Jan-di? Should I make it impossible for her to live anywhere in Korea?”

Jun-pyo: “Be quiet. I told you TO STOP!” He warns, “Don’t mess with Jan-di. If you break your promise, I’ll destroy everything.”

Time to check in back at home. Jan-di’s brother, Kang-san, falls ill with mysterious stomach pains, and his parents rush him to … Doctor Former President?

I is confuzzled. If a former president started practicing medicine, wouldn’t people, um, know about it? Or maybe President Grandpa has a twin brother…

To cheer up Jan-di, Ji-hoo takes her around for the day. They sightsee, watch a Cirque du Soleil-style performance, and shop — the last of which Jun-pyo happens to see as he’s passing by a storefront.

While Ji-hoo looks around, Jan-di is drawn to a pretty shoe on display — which she hastily returns when she looks at the price tag.

Jun-pyo tries to ignore this, but ends up returning to the store to claim the shoe. Only, another shopper grabs it at the same moment. Jae-kyung and Jun-pyo grapple with the shoe, both refusing to let go. (They register no recognition; I’m guessing they’ve never met, since her parents had never seen him before, either.)

Jun-pyo wrenches it from her hand, but when Mr. Jung asks if he knows Jan-di’s shoe size, he stops short. He doesn’t know, so he sizes up Jae-kyung and shoves the shoes on her feet to get an approximation.

Jun-pyo is satisfied that they’ll fit and tells her to take them off. But now that she’s in possession, she refuses and tries to run off (without paying?). In a cute sequence, Jun-pyo chases her around the store and grabs Jae-kyung, who loses her balance.

Having won, Jun-pyo walks out with the shoes.

That night, Madam Kang hears that Jan-di intends to go home the next day. Given their break-up and the fact that Jun-pyo is currently working in the conference room, she is satisfied that both sides have come to their senses and returned to their “rightful” positions.

If only she knew that Jun-pyo isn’t actually working; instead, he’s looking at photos on his computer.

Clearly this slideshow presentation is Ji-hoo’s doing, because it closes with Jan-di’s recorded video message. A tear slips from Jun-pyo’s eye as it plays, after which he stands up purposely, as though to rush off to find her.

Just as he starts to leave, something seizes his attention — in place of the slideshow are old memories of him and his father. (The editing makes it seem for a moment that he’s watching video footage, but I’m pretty sure they’re in his head. If only because it’s crazy to think this particular conversation just happened to be recorded fifteen years ago. Not that BBF is known for its logic.) In the memories, a young Jun-pyo is with his loving father (uh, character inconsistency?), who asks, “What will you do when I’m not around?” Young Jun-pyo proudly makes a man-to-man promise, “I’ll take care of Mom, Noona, and Shinhwa Group.”

It’s his guilty conscience flaring, to keep him from throwing away his position for Jan-di. Torn between both very strong impulses, Jun-pyo bellows in frustration and sinks to the ground.

The next day, Ji-hoo and Jan-di check out of the hotel. I wonder if Ji-hoo is expecting Jun-pyo to show, but instead he’s recognized by someone else, an old friend. (The actor is Haiming, Chinese member of kpop group A’ST1; the character is shortened to “Ming.”)

Ming is thrilled to see Ji-hoo, but disappointed that they’re leaving today. Sensing that Jan-di is the key to convincing them to stay one more day, he gains her approval — then pushes her aside to cozy up to Ji-hoo. It’s hilarious at how much he adores Ji-hoo. I’m not sure if he loves him or is IN LOVE with him, but in any cause, it’s pretty amusing.

Ming takes them to his fancy home and prepares a lavish spread — all to impress Ji-hoo, of course. He and Jan-di engage in a silent battle over the food — Jan-di reaches for the delicious dishes, while Ming moves them away, offering them to Ji-hoo instead.

When Ji-hoo in turn passes the food to Jan-di, she eats with petty triumph. Lol.

Feeling threatened by Jan-di’s claim on Ji-hoo’s affections, Ming tells him grumpily, “She’s not pretty,” and highlights all her shortcomings. He asks if they’re dating, so Ji-hoo asks what Ming thinks.

Ming: “It seems that you like her. When you look at her, you smile, like back then.”
Ji-hoo: “Back then?”
Ming: “Like with Seo-hyun.”

Finally giving in to the impulse, Jun-pyo tries to call Jan-di’s hotel room, only to find that she’s already checked out.

He assumes that means they’ve headed back to Korea, but Mr. Jung informs him that they’re still in the country, visiting a friend. That’s news to Jun-pyo, who wonders who the friend is, but when Mr. Jung offers to find out, Jun-pyo tells him not to bother. (Mr. Jung smiles at this proof that Jun-pyo still cares.)

So Jan-di and Ji-hoo go sightseeing some more, and it is gorgeous.

COMMENTS

I don’t know why I have so much to say about 1 hour of television, and I’m trying to keep things concise (ha!), but sorry in advance for rambling on so. I can’t seem to help it.

Anyway. I feel like PD Jeon just discovered how to shoot reflections in this episode, based on the sheer number of them we got, like —

There were a few standout scenes, which altogether include pretty much everyone in the main cast. So yeah, Episode 14 totally stepped up its game. (Just don’t hold your breath for Episode 15, based on our established pattern.)

One example: The F4 basketball scene. I LOVE that Yi-jung is the one who gets mad. It’s notable that Woo-bin tells Yi-jung to calm down because all series long, Yi-jung has been the one to tell people to calm down whenever they got upset. Perhaps Ji-hoo could have filled that role, but I’m glad Yi-jung was the one to throw the punch, for a few reasons:

First, we’ve seen plenty of Angry Ji-hoo (which I consider a good thing), so we already know how much he cares. Second, we already had a direct Ji-hoo versus Jun-pyo conflict in earlier episodes, so Yi-jung’s reaction gives us a different spin, as it involves someone who doesn’t have romantic feelings for Jan-di. I think that highlights just how badly Jun-pyo is treating Jan-di on a basic friend-to-friend level, that Yi-jung (and Woo-bin) also find his behavior appalling, not just Ji-hoo. And third, I’m thinking Yi-jung has been set off-kilter by Ga-eul’s insight (in Episode 13) into his fear of true love, etc., so his anger at Jun-pyo mistreating Jan-di is given an added layer of meaning. (Sorta like, I’m scared to death of finding true love, and you’ve got it in front of you, and you’re just going to trample all over it like this?)

I’m not jumping ship to root for the Jun-pyo and Jae-kyung pair, but I thought they were really cute together, and this is the first outsider love interest that made me nervous — which, yay! I never felt that the Jun-di pair was really endangered until this episode, and while I don’t think Jae-kyung will upset the order too much, I’m very glad that it at least makes me uneasy.

As for the scene with Madam Kang… I don’t even think I have to say much about it. It was GREAT.

And then, of course, the bridge scene. I am a big fan of this interpretation of Jun-pyo’s character, and part of that is because cruelty can be so much harsher when it’s quiet and contained, rather than overt tantrum-ing. Both Jun-pyo and Madam Kang do that beautifully. He can lash out in violence, too, but he’s at his worst when he’s in control, and wielding his cold cruelty with surgical precision.

That’s why this whole personality about-face — which, yes, I know was in the original — actually seems very in character for the way Jun-pyo has been established. (Like he said, he’s not becoming cold — he was always cold.) Also, we’re given the hint that Jun-pyo made a deal with his mother to do her bidding in exchange for leaving Jan-di alone. Therefore, his attitude change doesn’t feel like a weird personality morph that sprang up as an artificial plot contrivance; it actually feels like a natural development. (I know! I used “natural” to describe Boys Before Flowers!)

I really enjoyed Hana Yori Dango — I loved the manga over-the-topness and the cheesy storylines, which worked for that format. But what I appreciate — and what feels different — about Boys Before Flowers is that this second part feels… kinda real, actually. (Not necessarily plot-wise — but emotionally, oh yeah.) I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up.

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51 Jooni

February 17, 2009 at 9:22 PM

Please always have a lot to say. I enjoy your comments.

And you're right. I was thinking that I have more trouble with Ji hoo showing up in Macau to help Jandi than with Rui showing up in NYC and that is might be because the BOF characters seem young to me. Rui and the rest of Japanese F4 seem more capable of doing those heroic things.

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52 LJ

February 17, 2009 at 9:23 PM

Thank you so much for the humorous recap. I wait patiently for the subs since I don't understand anything but one or two words here and there. In the meantime, I still watched the episode and the scene between Jun-pyo and Jan-di on the bridge in the earlier morning hours brought tears to my eyes. Boy, was I shocked I felt that way. The acting was terrific and the facial expressions, perfect...hope they can keep up the quality displayed in tonight's episode!

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53 sonam

February 17, 2009 at 9:27 PM

I agree that HYD F4 felt like boys playing grown ups but I feel the same can be said of the Korean F3. LMH's JP is the only one who looks like he's growing up.
I have always found that song by SB and AB so cheesy. My friend used to listen to it all the time at one point and it drove me crazy.
This episode was one of the best so far. It didn't leave me feeling high and dry like the last 8 episodes.
Jae kyung is awesome. How can you not like a girl who takes over from the gondolier and sings the song herself? She's so free sprited....something I wanted Jandi to be. I wish the director had given us a shot of the guys's (gondolier) bemused face. It's little details like that makes a drama great. Her scene with JP was great tho' i was surprised he didn't try to speak Cantonese first. How would he know she's Korean?

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54 DUMBO

February 17, 2009 at 9:28 PM

Everyone is commenting on how the acting has gotten better but weren't thse macau scenes shot in December? Doesn't that mean that their acting hasn't improved but rather worsened in the past few weeks?

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55 Tay

February 17, 2009 at 9:29 PM

Now i really find that tue episode is better than mon episode lol...alot of JP in this episode. i wanna watch JD and JP again. funny that the ex-president of Korea becomes a doctor and nobody recognise him...i want more episodes...

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56 tiki

February 17, 2009 at 9:32 PM

@54 HAHAHAHAHA!!! omg... i didnt even remember that... -_- but i dont think their acting's gotten worse.. i just think the situation in this particular episode let everyone shine. in the previous episodes it was mostly happy happy things.. this episode was incredibly angsty...

anyway, this episode brought tears to my eyes.. (NOT an easy thing to do, that) i loved it... *pretty much speechless*

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57 SueNoona

February 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM

Well... Curse you BOF for making me cry and think and cried and think....
I never cried so hard after watching an episode!
It toils my emotions that makes me wanna hate Junpyo but knowing that he's one tru love is only Jandi, I guess i have to wait for more....

Yijung is so outspoken.... I like..... I see more character building in this episode so till then, get ready your tissue or hanky and get ready to cry more!

I am so loving u.... the one responsible for all the recaps and so loving BOF to the core.

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58 Javabeans

February 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM

Isn't the tone of comments a remarkable change from yesterday? (Not that I'm complaining. Not at all. Tuesdays rule.)

Regarding the timeline -- not ALL the scenes were shot in December. Only the Macau ones. The ones that are indoors may have been shot recently, such as the the basketball scene (maybe also the Mama Kang scene, the conference room scene). The basketball one is the most telling example of a recent shoot because of Kim Hyun-joong's shorter hair. (It's shaggier in all the Macau scenes.)

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59 docmitasha

February 17, 2009 at 9:38 PM

Lee Min Ho was absolutely terrific. When they both go through their flashbacks, you can literally see that there was this teenager who was having fun and throwing tantrums and being spoiled, and now there's this man who has the burden of this company and his mother's anger to deal with, and he is frustrated and tired but trying. And the scene with Mama Kang...wowsa. Its almost like he's inherited his anger from his mother, and both actors do such a great job that you're almost convinced that they are actually related, since they have the same character traits.

For the slideshow of pictures, I had a different interpretation...I think they were always on Jun Pyo's computer along with all of his other pictures, and the video had been added when Ji Hoo sent it. And as he's flitting through them, he is struck by Jan Di's video and gets up in emotion (to go to her or whatnot), but in a sad twist the next video is one from his childhood (and yes, the dad was so lovey dovey before? huh?). For me, looking at it this way fit in with the editing of the episode that he's actually looking at it and its not in his head, and second, it just seemed like another plot twist to show that the universe is just against it...right when he thinks no, I need to go to her, something comes up to remind him of who he is and what he needs to do. Love the scream he does here.

I like that Gu Hye Sun is not weepy-over-melo, and Jan Di's character doesn't wallow too much. I agreed that Yi Jung's angry-friend scene was very good, and it fit in very well, for all the reasons you mentioned. That was an awesome scene.

I love Macau and go there all the time so that was an added plus for me :-) This weekend I'm actually heading to the Venetian for an event and I'll be thinking of all these scenes all the time: darn it!

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60 kimchikay

February 17, 2009 at 9:39 PM

wow...i loved this episode..mostly because Lee Min Ho's acting was AMAZING...gosh he had me tearing up with him....he held the whole episode down today....as much as I love BOF...i think Min Ho is going to make such a fine actor once the show is done...he's awesome at everything he's given....

Jandi was pretty decent, she's a pretty crier (she doesnt make weird cry faces when she's sobbing) which makes the whole thing bearable

Ji Hoo is cute, and i think his scene with Jandi when they were talking about the dream was cute...

ooh did anyone catch the bloopers at the end...lol

Director: "Min Ho, i told you to touch lips not open them!"
*Min Ho and Hye Sun blush and hid their faces*

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61 BBFan

February 17, 2009 at 9:41 PM

This is bad, really really bad. BBF is my new crack. I'm like those rubberneckers who can't take their eyes off the accident on the other side of the freeway.
It's detrimental to my health, but I can't cure this addiction without a 12 step program.

The first time I saw Ji Hoo on BBF I thought to myself, "buddy, go easy on the botox".
Being metrosexual is great, but he's kinda effeminate right? Come on, you know you've thought it too.
However... I've been watching "We Got Married" online, and he's hysterical! Now I love Hyun Joong Oppa!
People, you have got to watch Hyun Joong on WGM, it's a riot.

Javabeans I'm not Korean, so your episode recaps are really helpful. Thank you so much for your hard work.
Now, instead of watching the new episodes in Korean, I can just view your summaries and watch the episodes later when they've been subbed.

P.S.
This is off topic, but every time I watch Kdramas, I hear "Aja, aja....fighting".
Being Canadian and a new Kdrama addict, I find this hysterical. Why do Koreans use "fighting" as encouragement?
Where did this come from? Am I missing something?

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62 diviney87

February 17, 2009 at 9:43 PM

so will this be the same as Meteor Garden 1 and 2???. where GJP loses his memory...yada..yada..or will it be slightly different???.. i didnt really like Meteor garden 2...

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63 Ariana

February 17, 2009 at 9:44 PM

I'm rooting for the Jae-kyung and Jun-yo pairing. I know it's impossible for them to be together but...

[I really enjoyed Hana Yori Dango — I loved the manga over-the-topness and the cheesy storylines, which worked for that format. But what I appreciate — and what feels different — about Boys Before Flowers is that this second part feels… kinda real, actually. (Not necessarily plot-wise — but emotionally, oh yeah.) I’ve always felt like the J-version depicted kids who were playing grown-ups, but here it feels like they’re ACTUALLY growing up.]

I don't really agree. I was invested in Hana yori Dango emotionally, despite the cheesy storylines and manga over-the-top-ness.

What makes me appreciate and think a particular drama is good is when that drama has succeeded in making you live in that world. It's like for an hour or so, their world exists and you're lost in it. I got that in Hana yori Dango, and even Meteor Garden.

I can't get lost in Boys Before Flowers. Part of that is I have a lot of questions, there are a lot of details that are missing. I am occupied trying to figure out why the grandfather / former president is now an ordinary old man (when he visits the restaurant) and then a doctor. Part of that is the stupid plot lines that go one way and then the scriptwriters would force the direction to go another way to keep up with the drama.

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64 Angela

February 17, 2009 at 9:45 PM

Wow. I just love the way you write--you have an amazing way with words. I watched that same episode, and my summary/recap could never do it justice (and JP's confrontation with his mother was my favorite scene too). It just seems more powerful and beautiful to hear you describe it. Thank you so much. ^_^

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65 Jennifer

February 17, 2009 at 9:47 PM

I haven't read the manga so i'm not sure when the amnesia happens. I really hope they skip that here. It was terrible in the other versions and it would be in this one too.

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66 ava

February 17, 2009 at 9:47 PM

Thanks so much for the recaps! Next Monday can't come soon enough...!

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67 Ployathina

February 17, 2009 at 9:48 PM

I love your recaps! I've convinced my roommate to read them after weeks of coaxing her. You made a lot of good observations, and I love that. Any who.... I really liked this episode, even though Lee Min-Ho wasn't in it a lot, but they have to start on a clean slate of sorts to get things back in some order.

For someone who hasn't had much experience with acting, Lee Min-Ho has done a great job with what he is given, I've said that before. I'm just blown away by him, not in the fanatical "Oh my god, he's so hot I don't know what to do with myself!" way. But he portrays his character really well. Now, this is the only work of his that I've seen, but from the past 14 episodes that I have diligently watched, I've been very impressed. I'm usually very critical of actor's acting. By all means, I can't act to save my life, and I don't go around saying that I can, but I can detect good acting and bad acting. I don't completely say that people suck, because I feel that there are positive and negative aspect to everyone's acting, no matter how long they've been in the business. But on with the comment....

This episode breaks my heart in so many ways. When Jun-Pyo went and stormed into his mom's room and had that confrontation, I was on the edge of my seat. I was anticipating him flipping the table or doing something drastic, but I think the character handled it very well, by tossing threat of, "If you break your promise, I’ll destroy everything.” If I was in his mom's seat, I'd be shaking. And I feel that the character has that recklessness to him that if he's pushed far enough, anything is possible. I think his mom knows that too.

Another part that really got me going was when he was looking at the slide show. Now, I wasn't sure if it was in his memory or if he was watching, but I got the idea that it just popped up on his computer. My thought was, whoever edit that slide show is a d-bag. It was as if someone was playing with his emotions, going, "Here Jun-Pyo, the girl you love. She loves you! Go to her.... Oh wait! Don't forget the promise you made to your father when you were practically infantile!" as if his emotions aren't already fragile. Again, Lee Min-Ho did a superb job. The guy can cry, still look attractive, and have me sympathize at the same time.

I swear, these two are going to make me cry. The bridge scene was by far the saddest scene. Jun-Pyo's coldheartedness was heartbreaking to say the least. It made me want to tell Jan-Di to go to Ji-Hoo, but I know that's not feasible. The two actors were great. The fact that this was filmed first really shows that the acting has been on the spot from the get go. Props and kudos.

His quick interaction with his future fiancée was really cute, I really liked it. I think that if anything were to come out of these two would be a solid friendship, if anything. It was good to see the carefree side of Jun-Pyo again after all the angst that was there. I hope she sticks around, but to help patch things back between Jun-Pyo and Jan-Di.... Her dad did say she was the type to do things her own way, I hope that means that she has no romantic interest in Jun-Pyo and isn't going to try to break Jun-Pyo and Jan-Di, I think his mom's done a fine enough job of that.

On to other people....

I think my favorite scene tonight was Yi-Jung confrontation. Kim-Bum was great. I was totally cheering him on, although I think the punch he gave Jun-Pyo was a bit on the puny side. I mean, I guess, I understand that they're best friends, but seriously? He punched the thugs in the alley with more gusto than that, and I'm sure he wasn't as upset with them as he was with Jun-Pyo at that time. But, I liked the fact that he was stepping up and saying something. When he brought up her injuries, I was so proud. Thank goodness, I think Ga-Eul is really getting to him, which is wonderful, because I love them! Props to Kim-Bum for that scene. On a side note: I was very upset that I didn't see Kim So-Eun in this episode.

Kim-Joon is the comic relief that is there but not necessary. But I definitely think he adds a nice flavor to the mix. I love him during the scene with the gondola. I'm really excited to see his story being worked a bit. I like to know more about this carefree guy. I mean the other 3 has such tragic childhoods, (Ji-Hoo: Car crash, dead parents, estranged grandfather. Jun-Pyo: Kidnapped, drowning, crazy mother. Yi-Jung: Philandering father, suicidal mother. Is it me or do rich people have really major family problems?) it's ridiculous that Woo-Bin didn't have one.

I really love Ji-Hoon. His character has always been my favorite ever since I watched Meteor Garden. Kim Hyun-Joong is getting better, I hope. I mean, I think he's trying really hard. It's not exactly the easiest first role. I know that Zhou Yu Min/Zai Zai wasn't all that great as Hua Ze Lei either, but he was still my favorite (Maybe because I was harboring a childish crush on Zai Zai at that time). Maybe it's something about singers-turned-actors? But it's nice to see another layer of Ji-Hoon, he's like an onion.... the closer you get to the center the more you want to cry. He is trying to be a good friend to both Jan-Di and Jun-Pyo. I think the guy's pretty selfless. Ji-Hoon fighting!

As for Koo Hye Sun, she's amazing. My favorite scene was a tie between the two scenes, both of which were where she just broke down and cried. The first one when she had the mask on. I wanted to cry so badly for her. She was finally able to come to terms with her feelings for the guy that she likes/loves. Just when she was about to tell him, he ups and leaves for another country. Six months later she's ready to go and find him, only to have him treat her like something that did not matter. If I was in that situation, I don't even know how I would have handled it. The scene in the gondola was done beautifully I think, just everything about it. The music choice was great, I was so excited because that's one of my favorite songs since I heard it the first time on my visit to Bellagio in Las Vegas. She was on the gondola, which is a boat ride for lovers, by herself after having just been rejected by the guy she loves. I give props to the crew, that was a great scene, Koo Hye Sun was marvelous. *Applause*

I honestly think that Koreans need to be retaught Korean history on this show. I mean seriously, how can no one recognize their former president? I think that storyline is just out of whack, I just don't think that it's logically possible that no one noticed him. Although, he doesn't really dress or act like someone who was a former president. And I don't really know what former presidents of Korea do after their term is over, but still.... No one?

I have faith that this show is going to get better. I mean they're veering off from the other versions, which is nice. I was worried when I remembered that in Meteor Garden, Dao Ming Si lost his memory, that was tragic and the process onward was just tedious and time consuming. I'm just praying and hoping that the writing is getting better. Maybe because the first part they had to go off the manga so it was hard to write anything with substance? Hopefully, now that it's a completely new territory, it'll be different? I have high hopes for them.
Thanks again for recapping, I look forward to it every Monday and Tuesday nights!

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68 JD

February 17, 2009 at 9:49 PM

hey javabeans, thanks for the recaps. i haven't watched episode 14 but i tear just reading the Jun Pyo-Madam Kang confrontation. do you know that you have that skill?

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69 EUNWHUI

February 17, 2009 at 9:50 PM

thanks so much javabeans!
a great summary.....as always.
this episode made me cry so much......

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70 Xamich

February 17, 2009 at 10:00 PM

You know, maybe they do it on purpose? Try to make tuesday BETTER so people tune in on monday after a week long wait? :-)

First of all, I agree. Yi Jong is ALWAYS saying 'jin jeong hae' so I squeed with delight when I heard someone else say it to him.

And of that scene. The way you see that brief, controlled flicker of surprise on Minho's face... doesn't it make you DIE?!?! It was AMAZING.

Lee MinHo, maybe I'm just being fangirlish, is an AMAZING actor. Well, amazing in a sense that he manages to portray Go Jyun Pyo perfectly enough that I think I started to cry while watching him watch the video of Jandi...

Although I am frustrated that it ended like that (have you noticed usually tuesday episodes do have a slight conclusion to them, so it's not such a OMGWTFBBQ cliffhanger? except for this one...) I have to admire the actor. Enough. That I've watched it 3 times in the last.... 12 hours.

(It's a sickness. Really)

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71 Xamich

February 17, 2009 at 10:02 PM

Actually, I have to disagree on the rant about Koreans not recognizing their president.

Honestly, IRL: if your president was dressed down, without the attention, the body guards, the glory... and he walked into your restaurant, how are you supposed to recognize him?

I think it's the same way if someone absuredly famous walked into your store, and you had him on the magazine. I don't think it would occur to anyone, until much later-- or even then, simply a coincidence.

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72 Javabeans

February 17, 2009 at 10:02 PM

"i haven’t watched episode 14 but i tear just reading the Jun Pyo-Madam Kang confrontation. do you know that you have that skill?"

JD, thanks so much for your comment. I think the two greatest compliments someone can give about a person's writing is that it either made you laugh or cry for real, so I'm honored, really.

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73 Annie

February 17, 2009 at 10:03 PM

awwww crappp.... i'm seeing the sparks for jaekyung and GJP. NOOOO!!!! I can't cross over to the dark side yet. I'll give it some time.......CRAP.

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74 BOFfan

February 17, 2009 at 10:05 PM

i so totally looove Yi Jung's anger at Jun Pyo for mistreating Jan Di. it basically explains the reason why he has been trying his best not to encourage Ga Eul's feelings for him. why he only goes out with women who play his game, why he was the first to be worried about JP's feelings for JD, - he doesn't want to hurt women. Because, it could be that he doesn't want to see the pain his mother feels mirrored in another woman, especially one as good a girl as Jandi.

the drama's coming along really really well... but there are times when i can't help but wonder how awesome it would be if the PD is the same one that did Coffee Prince.

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75 elmo

February 17, 2009 at 10:06 PM

THANK U JAVABEANS
man even i shed an invisible tear for jan di in this episode
but the guy who plays jun pyo! he's a great actor, i like the frustration tears very realistic
it's so something that actually happens
SO frustrated that you cried

muwahahah
can't wait for subs
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76 sonam

February 17, 2009 at 10:08 PM

I agree the montage with JP and JK was ridiculous. What was the point? They have just met. It doesn't make any sense. This director is so lazy!
I also don't like the sound effects he uses. That ' gust of wind ' whoosh sound. Like in the pivotal scene of the episode between JP and JD. We get it already!!!! And then he piled it on with the crudely manipulative cheesy 'waiting for you' song. The scene was just fine with the subtle piano piece it started with and LMH and GHS's fine acting.
Also why did he make Jandi wear that tee shirt with an alien's face for such an important scene? She looked so good in the off white cardigan she was wearing while playing hide and seek with the F3. I really would find Jandi more endearing if she dressed more plain and repeated some outfits. It would dramatize the contrast between her world and JP's . Right now it looks like she has too many clothes to mix and match. Makes her look like a frivolous girl.

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77 Kdramalovers

February 17, 2009 at 10:18 PM

Just wanted to share something a poster posted on soompi BOF that I thought was hilarious!

I laughed my head off because this was the reaction I had for ep. 14

Ji Hoo's non-confession confession? Killed me. Killed me. I want him to be happy by the end, please? You know, while Jandi has this zing and chemistry with JP, and matching personalities, I don't think anyone will understand her as well, and 'get' her as well as Ji Hoo - they bond on a whole other level.
Ahahahahahhaaaaa! That's the jerk's excuse???? All the Shinhwa employees? LOLOLOLOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL! You fail at life, Jun Pyo. RAGE. BURN. DIE. I fail to see how dating someone, unless they are Osama Bin Laden's daughter, affects the running of the corporation. I HATE YOU. BURN AND DIE. Also, seriously! For once, think before you charge in! Your friends warned you early on not to get into a relationship with Jandi in part on these types of grounds - socially unsuitable etc and you were all 'it doesn't matter' but clearly to you it does and you didn't think and charged through and wrecked her life and I hate you. I want Ji Hoo and Jandi to make out and hell, have sex or whatever, and videotape it and send it to you.

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78 Lara

February 17, 2009 at 10:18 PM

About Jan Di no longer being able to swim... Isn't she on a swimming scholarship to Shinhwa Academy?

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79 Nea

February 17, 2009 at 10:23 PM

Although there are so many things that I could say, above all I agree the most with this statement....(plus I practically said this verbatim to a friend earlier today)

"I really enjoyed Hana Yori Dango — I loved the manga over-the-topness and the cheesy storylines, which worked for that format. But what I appreciate — and what feels different — about Boys Before Flowers is that this second part feels… kinda real..."

Thank you!

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80 Ployathina

February 17, 2009 at 10:27 PM

I get what you're saying about if he dresses down and all of that. I guess I'm just surprised that the patients didn't know who he was. Once again, I do realize he's not the same person now as he was. I didn't mean to offend anyone either, if I did I apologize a hundred times! I think that storyline with Ji-Hoo has potential to be very interesting though, I can't wait to see it.

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81 anna

February 17, 2009 at 10:27 PM

I'm surprised at how these guys are supposed childhood friends, yet they (mostly Yi-jung) already jumped on him for Jandi, who they barely know just yet. Do these guys NOT know each other or something? I would think if you know someone since you were still in diapers, you would actually KNOW them, you know? Lol

They're quite quick to judge the guy. The least they could do is find out what's going on with him. Yes, he is acting strange, and you're not even curious as to why??? Communication, they could really use some.

Yeah, if people would just sit down and talk things out, there wouldn't be much drama, would it? Then again, there wouldn't be A drama if it was that easy.

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82 Hkanchi

February 17, 2009 at 10:29 PM

Damn....have to agree in one thing...I cried :( . This epi made me cry like I did when I read the Manga series.

I am just loving this show. BTW Thanks a lot.

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83 gemmi

February 17, 2009 at 10:29 PM

javabeans,
i really enjoyed bbf a lot the first few episodes, and since then they're just been going down... down... down. i can honestly say i enjoy your recaps more than i do the actual episodes. and yet i still watch the episodes bc your recaps intrigue me just enough, and when i watch it, i remember your recaps and i laugh. so... thank you for making bbf bearable? hahaha.

also PROPS to you for choosing a god song <3 i feel like they're so underrated internationally, and it's just nice to see them get a nod here and there even though they're inactive xP

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84 Arianna

February 17, 2009 at 10:32 PM

@81

I agree!

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85 BOFfan

February 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM

Sonam (#53), I can't agree with you more. I think the reason I love JaeKyung so much is she is what I wish Jandi was more of: beauty mixed with sassiness and a tomboyish carefree spirit. She looks more like the perfect match for JunPyo than Jandi right now. (don't hate me people, i'm still rooting for Jandi, but I can't be hating JaeKyung just yet) and BBFan (#61), I am right there with you. I started watching WGM after Boys Over/Before Flowers, and Hyun Joong is sooooo charming! I hope he really is like that in real life, because he really became loveable after I watched that show. He's not only good looking, but he is hilarious and can make fun of himself. Everyone, you gotta watch episodes of Hyun Joong on We Got Married. You can see it on youtube as Star Wedding ep. 12?-38. it's got subtitles too.

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86 ina

February 17, 2009 at 10:33 PM

I am glad at last people referring Hyun Jong instead of orange hair boy.

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87 xoxcinderellaxox

February 17, 2009 at 10:34 PM

Let me just say: this has got to be the best episode (by ranking of intensity)!

Lee Min Ho expresses his character well even at a tender age. I would usually expect this from someone who's a veteran in the industry but I'm surprised... in a VERY GOOD way!

BTW, I tried to do the Lee Min Ho tear-scene when he bursts in on his mom with the gondolier-song playing.. I can do it, but definitely not as good as Lee Min Ho did it!

Also, that pic of Jun Pyo sticking his tongue out was priceless! I would have expected him to use that on JanDi in their earlier days and not on Jae Kyung.... which makes me quite nervous for our Jan-pyo pair.

And... don't even worry about making the posts more concise! This is the reason why I like your recaps! You provide us with your opinion and symbolism of most scenes. i simply don't have enough patience to just watch it.

You're the best!

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88 RSzeto

February 17, 2009 at 10:36 PM

I second everybody that enjoyed epi 14. It was really good! One of the better ones if not best. Everybody had a toughie and they portrayed it well. Again Lee Min-ho is so charismatic that he is definitely a heavy-weight in this drama, you know something big is missing especially obvious in epi 13 when he was so oh absent. Gu Hye-sun showed her prowess, she did the scene at the bridge A++ very well done. Forget about her ditzyness or cutesy silly etc, she did have it in her for the real stuff too and the camera loves her for it. I liked everything in epi 14. Evil mom was worth a mention too. If they continue putting in this kind of quality it's not just you rambling on ... look at the entries here.. some heavy thots by fans as well... so satisfied and happy...now gotta wait for next monday to drag by...

Not forgeting a mention is Jae-kyung who is an unexpectedly likeable character!! A worthwhile opponent to Jan-di!

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89 Marie

February 17, 2009 at 10:37 PM

wow. Episode 13 made me angry at Gu Jun Pyo, but then episode 14 made me =(. Gu Jun Pyo being so cold to Jan Di...that was so harsh, even though Jun Pyo's intentions are obvious to the audience. Nevertheless, episode 14 made me feel a lot better about Gu Jun Pyo (thanks to more air time haha).

Thanks for sharing!

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90 sitknee

February 17, 2009 at 10:40 PM

OMg
first episode i cried in!
the mother is such a witch...
ugh
i cant believe she would torture her son like that :[

also can i say is that GRANDPA/EX-PRES/DOCTOR
everywhere???
how creepy??.....

one more thing
JIHOO AND JANDI
are so adorable
i know that i am not suppose to root for them but seriously
they are adorable!

thanks i love your recaps they are so hilarious and make me laugh...and make want to scream "i TOTALLY know what you are talk about about!!!"
:]

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91 hjkomo

February 17, 2009 at 10:47 PM

Am I the only one who was LMAO at the hide-and-seek scene set to ALMOST PARADIIISSSSSEEEE!!! ?????? While Woo Bin was counting, the rest looked like headless chickens running around in circles. Haha. (And JH's mask was so much prettier than JD's! LOL.) :P
No, just me? Then, I'd better take it easy on the shots... ;)

Thanks, Sarah. :D

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92 Genie

February 17, 2009 at 10:48 PM

I remember sitting in my room in Korea over the summer vacation, not being able to go outside and stumbling across your site for the first time. I literally went through ALL your entries because after reading a few of them, I was hooked. It was so well written but also, after reading them (whether, it was just news or your opinions from recaps) I always felt like I learned something, or laughed, chuckled, just basically felt some kind of emotion.

I don't comment much here, but as a half silent lurker here. I want to say thanks for everything :) you're so insightful and your music taste is super!

Also, this episode got me into the Jun-di couple. I was more focused on Ga Eul and Yi Jeong but this episode changed that.

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93 neeko

February 17, 2009 at 10:50 PM

khj is starting to look more and more like those walking japanese robots..... he walks weird.. did he in wgm?

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94 hannieoon

February 17, 2009 at 10:52 PM

OMg!!! Yi Jung was awesome! I had this sort of sadness when he mentioned to Joon Pyo that Jan di couldn't swim. I wish I had an awesome friend like that. Hell... I wish the F4 were real ^.^

The "old friend" of Ji Hoo. was kind of weird though. The vibe he gave me was of a gay guy in love with Ji hoo.

Waiting for next Monday/Tuesday is pure torture!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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95 veve

February 17, 2009 at 10:53 PM

Thank you for you recap! You are a great presenter and your comments are all the time right. Hope the director or producer read this.

Good work in sharing with us.

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96 kimche

February 17, 2009 at 10:57 PM

Komawoyo for the recap Javabeans! You write, I read. It's pretty much an involuntary thing now :)

This episode was really great. Especially because I'd been lowering my expectations recently, this episode had like, a 'woah' effect on me. haha

I really liked that mask scene. Really cool. It just seemed really fitting in this episode where characters, esp Jun Pyo, are all about hiding their true feelings. And I'm pretty much convinced that darn Paaaaradiiise song was made for this scene, cause for the first time, it worked. lol

And ouch at Jun Pyo's words at the bridge scene. I also winced! That was cold. Really cold. But awesome cold because Min Ho's acting amazes me. His delivery of those lines was just spot on. I'm totally feeling what you wrote about less is more when it comes to acting really dramatic scenes. Jun was great as Domyouji, but I have to admit some of his dramatic scenes veered towards hammyville. I don't think I have ever seen Min Ho overact yet. Brilliant stuff.

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97 cullenhale

February 17, 2009 at 11:00 PM

horrible angst.

The conversation between Jandi/Junpyo was absolutely heartbreaking. Like, I don't cry over KDramas (the only drama I cried was during ISWAK, at the end just because I was happy more than anything else) however Lee Min Ho pulls off the cold demeanor so well! The confrontation between him and his mother was also perfect...how angry he got, was just ah, no words. Also, the slide show and video...heartbreaking-heartbreaking. Oh yeah, Lee Min Ho, wow, he is amazing!

Also, I'm slightly enjoying the Ji Hoo and Jandi relationship, it's sweet. I also like your take on Yi-jung freaking out at Junpyo!

However, Junpyo getting the shoes for Jandi very cute and I like how Mr.Jung is silently supporting their relationship. However, Jae Kyung-hmm, I'm still indifferent to her, and her outfits? Why does she look like she belongs at all boy European boarding school? Anyways, it was a cute scene but just like you javabeans, I'm a little nervous about this pairing!

another long wait for ep 15/16...I can't take this!

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98 ZZzen

February 17, 2009 at 11:01 PM

Great episode, love it. Thanks for the recap, Javabeans
I'm so agree with you, no.61 BBFAN.
JH (Kim Hyun Yoong)in We Got Married was a hit , so adorable.
I heard that JH fainted for the second times while filming BBF!?!!

http://kr.news.yahoo.com/service/news/shellview.htmarticleid=2009021711233428434&linkid=63&newssetid=487&nav=1

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99 bluelime

February 17, 2009 at 11:02 PM

honestly, after watching this episode, i truly think kim joon (as woo-bin) is a pretty good actor. he just doesn't get much screen time at all.

kim hyun joong (as ji-hoo) is definitely getting better in terms of his acting in BOF.

kim bum (as yi-jung) did a great job in episode 14!! kim bum really brought depth and complexity to the character so yi-jung. i loved his sequence on the basketball court. he is truly an actor with lots of potential!! : )

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100 Sarah

February 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM

Love your recaps for BBF!! I agree with you on the whole Monday episodes being absurd and then Tuesday episodes being much better. The first half of the series was great (full of fun and teen angst), but this second half has a bit of a different feel; there seems to be a maturity in the characters and with the storylines. I can't wait for next Monday and Tuesday to find out what happens!! ^__^

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