I have my own opinions, but I’m curious: for those learning a 2nd language, I know memorizing dialogues is a long held tradition. Do you find it useful or not for learning purposes? And LJS duck face.

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    Books and movies tend to help me the most. But then, I’m billingual and learn mostly by hearing languages, not by reading grammar-rules etc, so I may be different. Sometimes I’ll repeat a line from a movie once or twice right after hearing it, but I don’t tend to memorize dialogue like if you take language courses.

    Btw, this is all your fault ->
    http://www.dramabeans.com/members/kaybee/activity/65225/?nid=34025#acomment-66561
    *points finger at you* 😛

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      Lol I’ll take a look at that, I’m sure it is my fault (most mischievous things are). And I’m the same way, hearing it and reading it/practicing it help me the most. But every class I’m in insists I memorize a dialogue! It gets frustrating at times, but what can I do?

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        Oh, it’s definitely your fault 😉

        I always learnt the most outside of class, when it comes to languages. The memorizing of dialogue can get really dull. I think learning by speaking, hearing, reading and writing a language is far better than just memorizing stuff.

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          Exactly. I’d rather be creating new stuff and making mistakes, not memorizing something I don’t always even understand all of. I look at memorizing dialogues like I look at memorizing anything else: I can recite “Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening” for you, but not understand it. Or a Chinese poem, or an Italian Aria, or a song in Catalan. In my opinion memorizing helps you learn how to memorize and perform, not necessarily speak (sorry for the rant, it’s a soap box of mine). ^^

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    I learned two languages differently. English with greetings and more grammar oriented and German with basic dialogue and learning sentences structures. They both have advantages and disadvantages like having sentences already formed so you’re sure it’s correct but it can also sound too “rigid”, too “academic-like” in a every day’s conversation. You receive the tools to have a base for communication then it’s up to you to improve (if you want) by yourself.

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      That’s a good point, it is nice to have a few backup sentences all ready to go that just roll off the tongue. But I agree, once you get up higher then maybe you dispense with it.

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    I’m multilingual, I speak 5 languages including my native language! I’ve only taken courses in french, the rest I learned through lots of movies and books! Memorizing dialogues could be helpful if you keep practicing them with someone or writing them down, but the best way to me to learn a language is memorizing the alphabet and then trying to write and create words that make sense! LOL!

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      I thought multilingual/bilingual is only used if you have more than one native tongue? Like, it’s not something you can become and if you’re born bilingual and learn more languages, you don’t become multilingual? If that made any sense lol.

      5 languages is impressive, I’m still only at 3, tsk tsk. Unless you want to count ones that I can read, but not speak, but I feel like that’d be cheating big time 😛
      I love your way of learning, sounds fun!

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        Oh, I didn’t know that but I do have 2 native tongues and I just realized I speak 6 languages, what does that make me? LOL!

        Yeah, you think? I guess because my family is mixed, everyone speaks at least 4 languages, they don’t find that impressive, they take it for granted!

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          I’m not sure, just wondering, because that’s what I always thought heh. I’m bilingual, but aside from that I only know English fully lol. So yeah, I do find that impressive 😉 But I can certainly see why that fosters a very multilingual environment! What languages do you know? ^^

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            Well, Balochi and Arabic are my two native languages, and there is English and Hindi, everyone at home speaks these four! The ones I learned later: Korean and Persian! I’m still not so good in French so can’t add it, LOL!

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          Ooh awesome! That’s quite a big chunk of the world’s population you’ll be able to speak with then! You just need Spanish, French and Chinese, then there’ll hardly be a place you won’t be able to converse with people lol.

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            Spanish and Chinese are definitely on the list and I would also like to learn German. My aunt speaks it and I just find the words so beautiful!

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          Wow I think that’s the first time I’ve heard someone call German beautiful! It’s one of my native languages, so that made me happy haha ^^

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            I fell in love with it last year when I was in Germany, I got scolded by this guy who said: if you’re in my country, you should speak my language, and then went on speaking in German (most probably swearing at me) I should’ve cried but instead I had the goofiest smile on my face and was so fascinated by the sound of the words! LOL!

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      Lol I posted one too many links, so my comment got deleted. Here’s what it said: Oh my gosh, that’s so many languages! That’s actually my goal: Chinese, Korean, Russian, French, Japanese, and most recently Hindi–I want to speak all those with some level of fluency before I die. Elvish is a bonus, if you want to learn:

      http://folk.uib.no/hnohf/qcourse.htm

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        And the other link:
        https://academy.realelvish.net/courses/

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          The first five languages are on my must-learn list as well! At least I’ve learnt a little, tiny bit Korean and going to take French classes next year, but it’s a loooong way off.
          Also, yesssssss. I’ve always wanted to learn Elvish! That and play one in a movie. Cause that would be awesome. You can also learn Klingon, but that is one ugly langauge, so I’d rather not learn 😛

          What languages do you currently speak? ^^

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            I have a printed out textbook of elvish actually, I took a three week crash course class on it. ^^ I only speak English totally fluently, but I can carry on a pretty good conversation in Chinese and a simpler conversation in Korean (I understand quite a bit of Korean, though). The French I took a few years of when I was little, but I don’t remember much. I can pick up on general topics in conversation though, so it’s probably next on my list. Not really a very impressive list so far to be honest, but I love learning, and I’m working on it. ^^

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          Yes, Chinese is on my list, too, but not anytime soon, and Elvish is a must, I actually learned the alphabet, now all I need to do is create words, LOL!

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            There’s actually a textbook that will give you grammar and vocabulary, too. ^^

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        I’m French and I’m always surprised when someone wants to learn French haha. The other are my goals too adding Spanish.

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      Creating words is what I enjoy the most with German you can basically create a word that makes sense even if it doesn’t exist !

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    I’m bilingual but I did french up to A level too- I found memorising stuff tedious. For french I used to go through a book and do all the exercises so I couldn’t really escape memorising vocab. It’s worth going through all the basic grammar as well just for sentence structure but learning vocab is way more fun through TV shows and films.

    Once you’ve started learning the basics of the language, I found that practising with anyone who can speak the language is really helpful- they can correct you if you’re wrong and it’s kind of fun to have ‘secret’ conversations lol

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      Lol I totally get the ‘secret’ conversations part–it’s where my pride kicks in and I need to stop myself from just talking in a different language all the time. I have to remind myself I’m not really that good at it. But it’s just so fun to talk and experiment in another language! ^^

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        Aw, its great that you’re able to do that! I used to be really self conscious about speaking in a language that I had learnt, i was worried that my pronunciation was off and my grammar would be all over the place so I hardly spoke it at all. It took a while to build my confidence speaking French but I realised that majority of people really appreciate the effort that you put in to speak their language and they won’t laugh at your attempts.

        I talk to my friends in French when we want to talk in private in a crowded area lol but I’m always conscious that there’s probably going to people who have also learnt it in that crowd so it’s not as secret as you think haha

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