LOLOL I’m checking DB in secret at the office and you made my I’m-definitely-working-concentrating-face disguise completely failed. Good thing nobody noticed hahaha
Like I loved Tomorrow With You, but a drama with Shin Min Ah as an aloof time slipper and Lee Je Hoon as her sensitive photographer husband would’ve been TEN TIMES BETTER.
If dramaland is gonna keep riding this time slip/travel trend, I want a drama where the GIRL is the one who time travels (preferably not to Goryeo though…)
Faith and Splash Splash Love are the only lady time travelers I can think of. OoOo I haven’t checked out My Only Love Song.
Yeah if there’s going to ride this wave of time high jinks it would be nice to have the ladies travel more.
I love Seul Gi. Give her all the shows any character and she sparkles. Oh my gosh I never thought about that you’re right the women are sent to the past almost as a rule. I’d like to see them go to the future or do a Goblin thing where they just live so long they see the future.
Yeah Faith sigh they’re are loads of better dramas. I will give them points for the leap frogging time travel they had her do. That was different.
This must be one of if not the most famous celebrity couple out there right now in SK entertainment business. Their star power alone is already amongst the highest but together? o.o I hope people don’t bother them too much.
I agree with sentiment that not everything has to have a romance all the time. But people who act like not liking romance makes them intellectually superior bother the heck outta me.
I have a hard time taking the cleanshaven babyfaced youths as badass warriors in sageuk. A really hard time. I need some grizzle on those faces and some features that don’t look androgynous or 12.
Unfortunately, it seems that very few k-actors can grow real facial hair. Plus I think it goes against the flower boy image most shows want to portray. If they do get facial hair, it’s normally reserved for what I call the ~passage of time~ goatee.
It’s hard for me to believe that these waifish flower boys with perfect skin would be able to pick up a sword and swing it more than once or twice without being worn out. Don’t even get me started on how they maintain those complexions (and the awful hairstyles you pointed out) without products. Watching sageuk requires me to suspend disbelief so hard on some of these characters. 😛
Beauty standards are so weird. Especially how different they can be culturally. Western culture has conditioned me to be attracted to tan skin and strong jaw lines, so a lot of the actors considered attractive in dramaland look like alien-esque , elven kings to me. But I try not to judge.
I’d hope that the distaste for the awful wigs are universal though. I’m having war flashbacks remembering some.
A lot of netflix originals recently: Sense8, The Get Down, Marco Polo. I was also excited about Still Star Crosssed on ABC but it’s pretty much been axed after three episodes.
Netflix needs to decide whether they want quality or quantity with their programming. Right now they seem to be axing everything quality to keep shows they know they can pump out easily.
i know the feeling, a lot of my shows ended this year or are ending next year, and the new batch are not always great (although i watch mainly fantasy/scifi as the other genres don’t appeal so much) , good thing there will always be drama’s 🙂
Drama Pet Peeve: When they have the obviously 30+ year old leads play their teenage self in flashbacks. Usually with a terrible wig. Please just hire another actor.
I vacillate between hating it and just finding it hilarious because it’s so absurd. I don’t mind it when it’s played for comedy in something like Fight My Way, but when it’s done seriously, it pulls me out of the story.
I think the most absurd example of this that I have seen so far was in Master – God of Noodles. They made some of the extras really old as well…to try and make it not so obvious? It failed. Iol
Well, in my head, I still look exactly the same as I did when I was in high school. Despite being well over 30. I rationalize the flashbacks that way — that they are memories of people who have always looked the way they do now. At least in their heads.
That’s a nice way to see it, but I don’t think that’s ever the intent of the PD when they execute it like that. If so, I’d rather they keep the character in their modern clothes and hairstyle so it’d be clear that the characters themselves are “visiting” the past.
I understand the move when they need the current actor’s skills in the scene and they don’t want to risk a young rookie actor ruining the scene, but there are young actors that can act, so why not use them? The alternative requires too much suspension of belief sometimes.
Oh, it’s only in my head that I look 18. I recognize that this is sitcom levels of self-delusion.
I like your point about giving young actors a chance. That is an excellent way to give rookies experience. And wouldn’t require mental gymnastics to make it plausible. 😉
I forget sometimes that I\’ve only been watching dramas for a year, and there\’s still so many I haven\’t seen. Keeping up with all the stuff airing rn is hard. I miss the discovery binge-watching phase.
Watching Still Star-Crossed is making me wonder if there\’s been a drama version of Romeo & Juliet yet. And if not, WHY? But then again I\’d probably avoid a drama as tragic as R&J like the plague…
I find it a little campy, but that’s kinda the fun of it. It immediately reminded me of a kdrama though with the pseudo-contract marriage plot and potential love-triangle. Looking at it through that lens, I think it could be an entertaining watch. I’m always a sucker for people in period costumes as well.
I\’ve been 👎 for the tamest criticisms. It\’s ridiculous. The 👍👎 system doesn\’t exactly encourage the minority opinion either. Comment sections are a place for conversation, not a popularity contest
Maybe some just lazy to state their counter opinion and use down vote instead, just my theory though. What’s the impact of it anyway? I don’t find it such a big deal.
I just realized I already got 10 downvotes lol. It’s not a big deal for me, I assume at least there’s someone who actually read my comment. Or could be accidentally happen.
I suppose if we think of a downvote as being used on rude comments or worse, it is definitely undesirable. However, it’s not the case for majority of downvotes here on DB. It could be – “I don’t agree with you” “I think Healer is the most awesome drama!” “How dare you insult my favorite drama!!!” “Wookie is my bae”
They don’t stop me. I don’t need to shut up my opinion just because I think differently from the majority out there.
Maybe that’s my problem. For me, I would only downvote a comment if it was rude or offensive. Whereas if I had a different opinion, I would comment. A 👎 is inherently negative and is unable to really express any besides “BAD”. I don’t take it personally, but the connotation is still there.
I beg to differ… I don’t take it as meaning only “BAD,” at least not on DB, just a disagreement. And even if someone meant it as “bad,” I don’t mind it. I’m fine if someone thinks my comment is bad. I just take it as a feedback to my comment, negative feedback is fine too, that way, I can know that not everyone agrees with me.
That’s the problem when you have nothing but a symbol though. The interpretation varies. Imagine if we were all trying to express our differing opinions in this conversation through symbols. Things get lost in translation.
Listen, I really don’t take this thumbs up and down thing as hard to heart as this thread might suggest. I just see cracks in the function.
In the end, I still think it’s good that there is an option for people to express a negative feedback as much as they can express a good one. Removing this and just giving a Report button would not allow for that.
I’m not offended by it. I just think is discourages comments in general. Whether it’s laziness, or makes someone too afraid to post a countering a opinion.
I feel that it’s a misleading way to “rank” comments, if you will.
& I think if the peeps using the thumbs system would probably not bother to comment in the first place. There’s not much value in commenting something short along of the lines of “Like!” “Dislike!” Maybe the thumbs is a way for those who used to not comment (or reply to every comment, just a few) to participate more, if you think about it ?
A comment with more upvotes is seen as having a higher value than one with fewer. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but when you add in the downvotes, that’s when things get muddy.
At the end of the day, it’s really up to Beanies to evaluate the “value” of a comment for themselves, rather than be told by others what to think of a comment. I trust most Beanies to be mature enough to think for themselves. I don’t see necessarily a comment with more upvotes as more valuable, just that many share the feelings expressed (for example, to me, a long comment has more “value” to me personally than a short comment).
@greemlamb exactly, I would give a thumbs up to a short comment I like, and wouldn’t give one to a long comment I disagree with, not because it has less value. I would reply to them in that case.
Everyone can think for themselves, but at the end of the day, numbers still matter. Would you see a YouTube video with thousands of dislikes and still watch it? We all search for approval with what we put out to the world. And I don’t really buy that that’s something we grow out of completely with age. Of course beanies can evaluate the worth of comments themselves, but a large of portion of beanies are still very young, and the positives of the 👍👎 system doesn’t change the fact that it is a system in which their comments are judged. People will have different opinions as to whether that’s good or bad.
We might search approval for what we put out in the world, but then, we also need to be mature enough to take it when others don’t give it to us as much as we want to.
Most videos on youtube don’t get millions and millions of views, not even thousands, hasn’t stopped the thousands of new videos getting uploaded day after day. As much as we seek approval, we also have the desire to share and communicate our thoughts and put it out in the world and leave our trace.
People will still comment, don’t worry. One of the best things of the internet, is the availability and ease of consumers’ feedback, where other consumers can know what their fellow consumers feel about a movie, a video, a product, with reviews, and mostly, with a ratings system for a wider use, rather than have to just read critics’ and “experts” opinions. It’s an imperfect but very valuable system to save our time and vet content.
and yes, I’ve watched videos with hundreds of thousands of dislikes before. I like to inform myself about what the general population doesn’t like or disagree with.
think of thumbs as brief replies. If people used to still comment even when a majority of comments don’t have replies, they will still continue to comment even when others have more thumbs than them.
Yes, they’re either lazy, or want to give a simple feedback to more comments than they have time to write a reply to. I used to just nod or shake my head when I read comments, which no one but me can see. Now, I can use visible thumbs to reflect my reaction to comments, I like it.
Completely agree with you Greenlamb. I don’t see it as anything different than a sign of disagreement or agreement, this system we have here.
Of course there might also be some trolls amongst the people that give thumbs down to comments but I don’t think we should really care about those either.
Actually, quite a few times I have read a comment that I disagreed with and would have given a thumbs down but I have seen on these fan posts already quite often how harsh people seem to take that and I don’t want to ruin someone’s day. So do I instead write a reply to tell them exactly what I disagree with or don’t like about their comment? Well….no…sorry but not really. I just end up continuing to scroll down and read another comment…
So I think that this system is rather beneficial in that way – it catches the opinions of the people that are too lazy or tired to write it out or don’t really see the point because their opinion can be easily summed up with: “I disagree because I don’t think so.” IMO without the thumbs down we would end up getting less information about the reaction our comments receive rather than more.
I hope people don’t take it to heart if they get a thumbs-down and that we don’t need to make a new fan post about it whenever it happens….otherwise it creates a stigma that makes it difficult to use the system to it’s full potential.
I just take it as an equivalent of “I have read your comment and disagree” which is no big deal. It’s a convenient way for peeps to make a “tame criticism” to a comment. If you don’t take it personally, and just as others’ opinion on what you expressed, then it should be fine. 🙂 How many votes you get shouldn’t stop your from speaking up if you think what you have to say is worth saying. 🙂
Hmm, interesting take. I never thought of the thumbs as a popularity contest (but that’s probably because I haven’t heard of that term for years since my teens, which, frankly, I don’t miss). When I see a comment with many thumbs up, I’m just happy that so much love has been expressed towards another <3 Maybe I'm mushy by nature.
You’ll get there soon enough. As we age, we stop putting so much importance into everything and be more selective about what affects us, which, trust me, is a liberating feeling.
I wish DB would replace the 👎 with a report option. Because that\’s what should be downvoted: malicious comments. Not someone expressing an opinion different than yours.
Am I the only one that thinks Healer is kinda overrated? I definitely didn\’t dislike it, but I\’ve always been a little perplexed by the immense love for it in the community. It was just there for me.
Seeing the kbeauty posts these past days I have been tempted to comment that the only part of Healer that I actually loved was the part they pretended to be wedding guests to get into the conference room! But I was afraid of being downvoted 😂
I didn’t dislike it but the story and loveline feeled on a high school story level to me.
I think that’s it. The OTP was meant to be the main draw, but they were just “cute” for me, like a youth drama romance. I’ve never been a fan of high school dramas either, so that explains it.
No you’re not alone. I think the main reason why it is so popular – not only in this site, but other sites as well because of JCW and the OTP. I didn’t watched more than 4/5 epi because I was so angry Yoo Ji Tae played a second fiddle lol, plus the story was not really intriguing.
callie
July 6, 2017 at 11:59 PM
I thought rewatching Signal would be less intense the second time around, but nope… butt cheeks still clenched.
chingu
July 7, 2017 at 12:04 AM
LOL! 😂?
Withyakyu
July 7, 2017 at 12:17 AM
LOLOL I’m checking DB in secret at the office and you made my I’m-definitely-working-concentrating-face disguise completely failed. Good thing nobody noticed hahaha
callie
July 6, 2017 at 5:40 PM
Like I loved Tomorrow With You, but a drama with Shin Min Ah as an aloof time slipper and Lee Je Hoon as her sensitive photographer husband would’ve been TEN TIMES BETTER.
callie
July 6, 2017 at 5:26 PM
If dramaland is gonna keep riding this time slip/travel trend, I want a drama where the GIRL is the one who time travels (preferably not to Goryeo though…)
jillian
July 6, 2017 at 6:36 PM
How about Goguryeo for My Only Love Song?
callie
July 6, 2017 at 6:47 PM
I forgot about that one! That seems like a friendlier Goryeo.
toramona
July 6, 2017 at 10:58 PM
Faith and Splash Splash Love are the only lady time travelers I can think of. OoOo I haven’t checked out My Only Love Song.
Yeah if there’s going to ride this wave of time high jinks it would be nice to have the ladies travel more.
callie
July 6, 2017 at 11:10 PM
I have seen Splash Splash Love. Adored it, but only two episodes man… Still waiting on Seul Gi and Doo Joon to reunite in another project.
Interesting that the trend seems to be that male time travelers get to go to the future while the ladies get stuck in the past…
I haven’t heard the greatest thing about Faith… I also refuse to watch any LMH dramas where his hair is god damn ridiculous (which is most of them…)
Basically I just want ladies to get to go to the future too.
toramona
July 6, 2017 at 11:28 PM
I love Seul Gi. Give her all the shows any character and she sparkles. Oh my gosh I never thought about that you’re right the women are sent to the past almost as a rule. I’d like to see them go to the future or do a Goblin thing where they just live so long they see the future.
Yeah Faith sigh they’re are loads of better dramas. I will give them points for the leap frogging time travel they had her do. That was different.
toramona
July 6, 2017 at 11:29 PM
*there are
callie
July 5, 2017 at 11:36 PM
I decided to do a Signal rewatch… half way through episode 1 and I’m already crying… this one’s gonna be a doozy…
callie
July 5, 2017 at 10:50 AM
Newsfeed for the Next Week: “SongSong…DOTS…SongSong…Descendants…SONG COUPLE…kbs…🌞…Wedding…DotS…pREGnant???…SongSong…”
hannaehh
July 5, 2017 at 11:19 AM
It could be Song sunbae too. 😉
callie
July 5, 2017 at 11:40 AM
Song Sunbae 💜 💜 💜
callie
July 4, 2017 at 5:12 PM
HOLD UP! Song Joong Ki and Song Hye Kyo are ACTUALLY getting married??? Have we entered the twilight zone????
bubbles
July 4, 2017 at 5:45 PM
Haha yeah, I am also all kinds of surprised!
callie
July 4, 2017 at 5:47 PM
Same! I’m not a shipper myself, but wow, I am shocked!
bubbles
July 4, 2017 at 5:52 PM
I neeveeer expected this. I mean, with the swag couple I wasn’t really surprised but this? Holymoly
callie
July 4, 2017 at 5:57 PM
Lord help them. Everyone’s gonna be all up in their business now. Even more than beforehand.
bubbles
July 4, 2017 at 6:00 PM
This must be one of if not the most famous celebrity couple out there right now in SK entertainment business. Their star power alone is already amongst the highest but together? o.o I hope people don’t bother them too much.
callie
July 3, 2017 at 11:05 PM
I agree with sentiment that not everything has to have a romance all the time. But people who act like not liking romance makes them intellectually superior bother the heck outta me.
Ek Ladhki Thi is Kim Eun-sooks no 1 fan
July 3, 2017 at 11:06 PM
I wish I could upvote your post a million times.
AussieGrl
July 4, 2017 at 1:03 AM
Me too 😊
callie
July 3, 2017 at 8:01 PM
Knetz are dragging the Bride of the Water God pilot. Can’t say I’m surprised. Wonder how ratings will go
blueribbon
July 3, 2017 at 8:40 PM
What do you mean by dragging? Legit I am really curious.
Ek Ladhki Thi is Kim Eun-sooks no 1 fan
July 3, 2017 at 8:46 PM
Basically
http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2017/07/tv-spoilers-bride-of-habaek-pilot.html?m=1
blueribbon
July 3, 2017 at 8:51 PM
Thanks 🙂
blueribbon
July 3, 2017 at 8:54 PM
Ouch, but I got to say that I agree, NJH’s acting is just bad in this show and the first episode has several cringe worthy moments.
callie
July 1, 2017 at 9:41 PM
Drama Pet Peeve #2: Sageuk Side Bangs. I’m not gonna take you seriously as a king if we share the same haircut I had in middle school.
Kestrel
July 1, 2017 at 9:43 PM
I have a hard time taking the cleanshaven babyfaced youths as badass warriors in sageuk. A really hard time. I need some grizzle on those faces and some features that don’t look androgynous or 12.
callie
July 1, 2017 at 9:52 PM
Unfortunately, it seems that very few k-actors can grow real facial hair. Plus I think it goes against the flower boy image most shows want to portray. If they do get facial hair, it’s normally reserved for what I call the ~passage of time~ goatee.
Kestrel
July 1, 2017 at 9:55 PM
LOL @ POT Goatee.
It’s hard for me to believe that these waifish flower boys with perfect skin would be able to pick up a sword and swing it more than once or twice without being worn out. Don’t even get me started on how they maintain those complexions (and the awful hairstyles you pointed out) without products. Watching sageuk requires me to suspend disbelief so hard on some of these characters. 😛
callie
July 1, 2017 at 10:04 PM
Beauty standards are so weird. Especially how different they can be culturally. Western culture has conditioned me to be attracted to tan skin and strong jaw lines, so a lot of the actors considered attractive in dramaland look like alien-esque , elven kings to me. But I try not to judge.
I’d hope that the distaste for the awful wigs are universal though. I’m having war flashbacks remembering some.
Kestrel
July 1, 2017 at 10:07 PM
The distaste for awful wigs is indeed universal.
callie
June 30, 2017 at 4:10 PM
Dramafever was advertising on twitter and I honestly had to do a double take of each poster…
callie
June 30, 2017 at 2:58 AM
Nearly half of my fave dramas have had ratings in the 1% 😂 lol. Why can\’t I like the popular ones? Life would be easier.
Rainbow Unicorn
June 30, 2017 at 4:34 AM
probably all tvn and jtbc shows… !
callie
June 30, 2017 at 8:56 AM
Yup! Lol. Cable dramas are just more interesting to me in genreal.
callie
June 28, 2017 at 6:59 PM
All my favorite western shows seem to be getting canceled 😢
Makes me grateful I don\’t need to worry about that with dramas.
Chanelboy loves Jackson Wang A LOT
June 28, 2017 at 7:46 PM
Can u tell me what shows? I dont reallt update their showbiz eventhru I follow some series.
callie
June 28, 2017 at 7:58 PM
A lot of netflix originals recently: Sense8, The Get Down, Marco Polo. I was also excited about Still Star Crosssed on ABC but it’s pretty much been axed after three episodes.
Kestrel
June 28, 2017 at 8:37 PM
Netflix is doing a #RepealandReplace
callie
June 28, 2017 at 9:26 PM
LOL.
Netflix needs to decide whether they want quality or quantity with their programming. Right now they seem to be axing everything quality to keep shows they know they can pump out easily.
UmbrellaMan
June 29, 2017 at 8:23 AM
Hahahahahaha. 😂That is such a sad statement. 😭
Sia
June 29, 2017 at 3:19 AM
i know the feeling, a lot of my shows ended this year or are ending next year, and the new batch are not always great (although i watch mainly fantasy/scifi as the other genres don’t appeal so much) , good thing there will always be drama’s 🙂
Sia
June 29, 2017 at 3:20 AM
correction, in western shows i mainly watch fantasy/scifi as their other genres are generally not that amazing
callie
June 27, 2017 at 10:57 PM
Ooh! Hulu just got Signal! Netflix where 👏 you 👏 at 👏
Ally
June 27, 2017 at 11:43 PM
Netflix has Tunnel!
callie
June 27, 2017 at 11:55 PM
I’m pretty sure that’s the kmovie though. Not the drama, lol. That’s what pops up on my account in the U.S. at least.
callie
June 25, 2017 at 4:43 PM
Drama Pet Peeve: When they have the obviously 30+ year old leads play their teenage self in flashbacks. Usually with a terrible wig. Please just hire another actor.
blueribbon
June 25, 2017 at 4:45 PM
Lol legit. The most recent one for me was Yoon Hyun-Min in Tunnel.
Pickwick12
June 25, 2017 at 7:56 PM
I vacillate between hating it and just finding it hilarious because it’s so absurd. I don’t mind it when it’s played for comedy in something like Fight My Way, but when it’s done seriously, it pulls me out of the story.
chingu
June 25, 2017 at 8:33 PM
Agreed! The girls’ wigs in Fight My Way were ridiculously big! So funny.
bubbles
June 26, 2017 at 12:28 AM
I think the most absurd example of this that I have seen so far was in Master – God of Noodles. They made some of the extras really old as well…to try and make it not so obvious? It failed. Iol
chingu
June 25, 2017 at 8:33 PM
“Usually with a terrible wig.” Omg, yes. Such. Hideous. Wigs. Or awkward hairstyles.
Amilia
July 6, 2017 at 10:59 PM
Well, in my head, I still look exactly the same as I did when I was in high school. Despite being well over 30. I rationalize the flashbacks that way — that they are memories of people who have always looked the way they do now. At least in their heads.
callie
July 6, 2017 at 11:22 PM
You must have some good genes girl!
That’s a nice way to see it, but I don’t think that’s ever the intent of the PD when they execute it like that. If so, I’d rather they keep the character in their modern clothes and hairstyle so it’d be clear that the characters themselves are “visiting” the past.
I understand the move when they need the current actor’s skills in the scene and they don’t want to risk a young rookie actor ruining the scene, but there are young actors that can act, so why not use them? The alternative requires too much suspension of belief sometimes.
Amilia
July 6, 2017 at 11:52 PM
Oh, it’s only in my head that I look 18. I recognize that this is sitcom levels of self-delusion.
I like your point about giving young actors a chance. That is an excellent way to give rookies experience. And wouldn’t require mental gymnastics to make it plausible. 😉
callie
June 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM
I swear, there\’s k-actors that look good with & without bangs and others that drop from a 10 to a -3 with them. #FreeTheForehead
anothernicole
June 24, 2017 at 5:33 PM
omg i thought i was the only one who felt this way. YES TO INFINITY. #freetheforehead
UmbrellaMan
June 24, 2017 at 6:54 PM
An actor always looks a bazillion times more handsome without bangs. I do not understand this hair trend!!!! #freetheforehead
callie
June 24, 2017 at 7:05 PM
YES. I’ve never seen an actor that looks better with them!
gumgum
June 24, 2017 at 10:55 PM
yes, if they look as good as they do the point is to see the entire face!!
Samurai
June 25, 2017 at 8:53 AM
Thank you! I still don’t get it. Why are only villains allowed a free forehead?
callie
June 19, 2017 at 4:15 PM
I forget sometimes that I\’ve only been watching dramas for a year, and there\’s still so many I haven\’t seen. Keeping up with all the stuff airing rn is hard. I miss the discovery binge-watching phase.
callie
June 16, 2017 at 10:46 AM
Watching Still Star-Crossed is making me wonder if there\’s been a drama version of Romeo & Juliet yet. And if not, WHY? But then again I\’d probably avoid a drama as tragic as R&J like the plague…
giocare
June 16, 2017 at 10:51 AM
lol I’m the opposite. Tragedy makes me want to watch the show. How are you enjoying Still Star Crossed?
callie
June 16, 2017 at 11:37 AM
I find it a little campy, but that’s kinda the fun of it. It immediately reminded me of a kdrama though with the pseudo-contract marriage plot and potential love-triangle. Looking at it through that lens, I think it could be an entertaining watch. I’m always a sucker for people in period costumes as well.
Midnight
June 16, 2017 at 12:19 PM
The Princess’s Man
callie
June 15, 2017 at 12:00 AM
I\’ve been 👎 for the tamest criticisms. It\’s ridiculous. The 👍👎 system doesn\’t exactly encourage the minority opinion either. Comment sections are a place for conversation, not a popularity contest
miselpo
June 15, 2017 at 12:25 AM
Maybe some just lazy to state their counter opinion and use down vote instead, just my theory though. What’s the impact of it anyway? I don’t find it such a big deal.
Sera The Ms Temper
June 15, 2017 at 12:42 AM
I just realized I already got 10 downvotes lol. It’s not a big deal for me, I assume at least there’s someone who actually read my comment. Or could be accidentally happen.
outofthisworld
June 15, 2017 at 12:50 AM
I suppose if we think of a downvote as being used on rude comments or worse, it is definitely undesirable. However, it’s not the case for majority of downvotes here on DB. It could be – “I don’t agree with you” “I think Healer is the most awesome drama!” “How dare you insult my favorite drama!!!” “Wookie is my bae”
They don’t stop me. I don’t need to shut up my opinion just because I think differently from the majority out there.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 1:15 AM
Maybe that’s my problem. For me, I would only downvote a comment if it was rude or offensive. Whereas if I had a different opinion, I would comment. A 👎 is inherently negative and is unable to really express any besides “BAD”. I don’t take it personally, but the connotation is still there.
Greenlamb
June 15, 2017 at 1:28 AM
I beg to differ… I don’t take it as meaning only “BAD,” at least not on DB, just a disagreement. And even if someone meant it as “bad,” I don’t mind it. I’m fine if someone thinks my comment is bad. I just take it as a feedback to my comment, negative feedback is fine too, that way, I can know that not everyone agrees with me.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 1:40 AM
That’s the problem when you have nothing but a symbol though. The interpretation varies. Imagine if we were all trying to express our differing opinions in this conversation through symbols. Things get lost in translation.
Listen, I really don’t take this thumbs up and down thing as hard to heart as this thread might suggest. I just see cracks in the function.
Greenlamb
June 15, 2017 at 1:47 AM
In the end, I still think it’s good that there is an option for people to express a negative feedback as much as they can express a good one. Removing this and just giving a Report button would not allow for that.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 1:52 AM
^ you have a valid point there.
Oh well, the internet is imperfect.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 12:58 AM
I’m not offended by it. I just think is discourages comments in general. Whether it’s laziness, or makes someone too afraid to post a countering a opinion.
I feel that it’s a misleading way to “rank” comments, if you will.
boraflok
June 15, 2017 at 12:59 AM
There is no ranking of comments like youtube or disqus though? The comments are numbered and displayed chronologically?
boraflok
June 15, 2017 at 1:02 AM
& I think if the peeps using the thumbs system would probably not bother to comment in the first place. There’s not much value in commenting something short along of the lines of “Like!” “Dislike!” Maybe the thumbs is a way for those who used to not comment (or reply to every comment, just a few) to participate more, if you think about it ?
callie
June 15, 2017 at 1:03 AM
It’s still gives the comments “stats” though. Like this many positives and this many negatives.
boraflok
June 15, 2017 at 1:19 AM
Sorry, I think I’m having trouble understanding.. How is stats something bad?
callie
June 15, 2017 at 1:32 AM
A comment with more upvotes is seen as having a higher value than one with fewer. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, but when you add in the downvotes, that’s when things get muddy.
Greenlamb
June 15, 2017 at 1:51 AM
At the end of the day, it’s really up to Beanies to evaluate the “value” of a comment for themselves, rather than be told by others what to think of a comment. I trust most Beanies to be mature enough to think for themselves. I don’t see necessarily a comment with more upvotes as more valuable, just that many share the feelings expressed (for example, to me, a long comment has more “value” to me personally than a short comment).
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:11 AM
@greemlamb exactly, I would give a thumbs up to a short comment I like, and wouldn’t give one to a long comment I disagree with, not because it has less value. I would reply to them in that case.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 2:13 AM
Everyone can think for themselves, but at the end of the day, numbers still matter. Would you see a YouTube video with thousands of dislikes and still watch it? We all search for approval with what we put out to the world. And I don’t really buy that that’s something we grow out of completely with age. Of course beanies can evaluate the worth of comments themselves, but a large of portion of beanies are still very young, and the positives of the 👍👎 system doesn’t change the fact that it is a system in which their comments are judged. People will have different opinions as to whether that’s good or bad.
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:39 AM
We might search approval for what we put out in the world, but then, we also need to be mature enough to take it when others don’t give it to us as much as we want to.
Most videos on youtube don’t get millions and millions of views, not even thousands, hasn’t stopped the thousands of new videos getting uploaded day after day. As much as we seek approval, we also have the desire to share and communicate our thoughts and put it out in the world and leave our trace.
People will still comment, don’t worry. One of the best things of the internet, is the availability and ease of consumers’ feedback, where other consumers can know what their fellow consumers feel about a movie, a video, a product, with reviews, and mostly, with a ratings system for a wider use, rather than have to just read critics’ and “experts” opinions. It’s an imperfect but very valuable system to save our time and vet content.
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:41 AM
and yes, I’ve watched videos with hundreds of thousands of dislikes before. I like to inform myself about what the general population doesn’t like or disagree with.
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:45 AM
think of thumbs as brief replies. If people used to still comment even when a majority of comments don’t have replies, they will still continue to comment even when others have more thumbs than them.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 2:51 AM
^ your sage wisdom is making me grumpy…
FINE the 👍👎 can stay…
WOW though I really didn’t think this would spark such a discussion.
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:58 AM
🙂 Then you know what to do to take away the grumpiness… go watch a drama a day and the grumps will go away~
Greenlamb
June 15, 2017 at 1:31 AM
Yes, they’re either lazy, or want to give a simple feedback to more comments than they have time to write a reply to. I used to just nod or shake my head when I read comments, which no one but me can see. Now, I can use visible thumbs to reflect my reaction to comments, I like it.
miselpo
June 15, 2017 at 1:36 AM
+100 ^^
bubbles
June 15, 2017 at 5:21 AM
Completely agree with you Greenlamb. I don’t see it as anything different than a sign of disagreement or agreement, this system we have here.
Of course there might also be some trolls amongst the people that give thumbs down to comments but I don’t think we should really care about those either.
Actually, quite a few times I have read a comment that I disagreed with and would have given a thumbs down but I have seen on these fan posts already quite often how harsh people seem to take that and I don’t want to ruin someone’s day. So do I instead write a reply to tell them exactly what I disagree with or don’t like about their comment? Well….no…sorry but not really. I just end up continuing to scroll down and read another comment…
So I think that this system is rather beneficial in that way – it catches the opinions of the people that are too lazy or tired to write it out or don’t really see the point because their opinion can be easily summed up with: “I disagree because I don’t think so.” IMO without the thumbs down we would end up getting less information about the reaction our comments receive rather than more.
I hope people don’t take it to heart if they get a thumbs-down and that we don’t need to make a new fan post about it whenever it happens….otherwise it creates a stigma that makes it difficult to use the system to it’s full potential.
boraflok
June 15, 2017 at 12:58 AM
I just take it as an equivalent of “I have read your comment and disagree” which is no big deal. It’s a convenient way for peeps to make a “tame criticism” to a comment. If you don’t take it personally, and just as others’ opinion on what you expressed, then it should be fine. 🙂 How many votes you get shouldn’t stop your from speaking up if you think what you have to say is worth saying. 🙂
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:13 AM
Hmm, interesting take. I never thought of the thumbs as a popularity contest (but that’s probably because I haven’t heard of that term for years since my teens, which, frankly, I don’t miss). When I see a comment with many thumbs up, I’m just happy that so much love has been expressed towards another <3 Maybe I'm mushy by nature.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 2:17 AM
I’m not as far from my teens as I’d like. Maybe that’s the cause of the disconnect.
kzebal
June 15, 2017 at 2:32 AM
You’ll get there soon enough. As we age, we stop putting so much importance into everything and be more selective about what affects us, which, trust me, is a liberating feeling.
callie
June 14, 2017 at 11:52 PM
I wish DB would replace the 👎 with a report option. Because that\’s what should be downvoted: malicious comments. Not someone expressing an opinion different than yours.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 2:28 AM
Further discussion suggests this would be a bad idea. Still have mixed feelings about the 👍👎 though.
callie
June 14, 2017 at 1:35 PM
Am I the only one that thinks Healer is kinda overrated? I definitely didn\’t dislike it, but I\’ve always been a little perplexed by the immense love for it in the community. It was just there for me.
kaybee
June 14, 2017 at 2:31 PM
You’re not alone, I’m always puzzled by the love it receives. “It was just there” pretty much sums it up for me too 😛
Midnight
June 14, 2017 at 6:54 PM
You are not alone.
Seeing the kbeauty posts these past days I have been tempted to comment that the only part of Healer that I actually loved was the part they pretended to be wedding guests to get into the conference room! But I was afraid of being downvoted 😂
I didn’t dislike it but the story and loveline feeled on a high school story level to me.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 12:06 AM
Lol, I got downvoted just for this post.
I think that’s it. The OTP was meant to be the main draw, but they were just “cute” for me, like a youth drama romance. I’ve never been a fan of high school dramas either, so that explains it.
Midnight
June 15, 2017 at 2:09 AM
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Midnight
June 15, 2017 at 2:10 AM
And why did I type feeled instead of felt! Must be karma 😂
kayedrama
June 14, 2017 at 7:45 PM
It did felt overrated here on db. I watched it bec everyone was talking about it. It was, just okay. I discovered Ji Chang Wook bec of that though. 😍
Sera The Ms Temper
June 14, 2017 at 8:03 PM
No you’re not alone. I think the main reason why it is so popular – not only in this site, but other sites as well because of JCW and the OTP. I didn’t watched more than 4/5 epi because I was so angry Yoo Ji Tae played a second fiddle lol, plus the story was not really intriguing.
callie
June 15, 2017 at 12:12 AM
I wanted to be invested in YJT’s part of the plot since I like him so much, but it just didn’t feel well written.
That combined with slightly corny action scenes, and you’ve got a big portion of the drama that’s just kinda boring, lol.