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Hi beanies hope you've all had a great week, on to dramas.
I just happened upon I REMEMBER YOU,I wasn't planning on watching it but wow it's so good. It's like a mash of Criminal minds, Bones,Dexter and The Mentalist with buds of romance and somehow it works,the directing and editing is superbly done, story and characters are so interesting and we'll done,I can't believe I almost didn't watch it.I blame Mask because it consumed me and I couldn't watch anything else but now I'm all caught up and I want more.The chemistry is off the charts and I can't believe how talented SIG is, I have to keep reminding myself that he was a singer first. I already knew he's a good actor since Reply 1997 and KHS but here he's great. The suit and the hairstyle don't hurt because he has swag? oozing out of his pores.
MASK we finally get bed scenes ✋ that's all I wanted. Loved the cute. Wish seok hoon would kill Mi yeon and just before her last breath he tells her
'I never loved you'
anyway she's dead to me,I can't stand her crazy.
OH MY GHOSTESS so cute,can't wait for the next episode, the lead actress is very talented.
Moviewise
I only watched FASHION KING which was hilarious, loved every moment, Joo won really committed to this role which is so unlike him but just goes to show he can do anything, looking forward to seeing him in Healer Yongpal which looks amazing already.
I made a mistake when I saw Lee min ho on the cover of Heirs Dvd and decided to buy it and as soon as I heard ?love is the moment ? I chucked it out of the Dvd player.Why did I waste my money , it was horrible enough when I watched it online the first time around. That OST has got to be the most hated in the history of kdramas.
Non drama wise,woke up yesterday to CNN calling Kenya a 'terror hot bed' and got worked up, how dare they but I'm glad kenyans didn't let them get away with it, #someonetellcnn was the number 1 trending topic on twitter yesterday and I joined in to let out my frustration. Sadly this is not the first time CNN has made a mistake or sensationalise news, it seems they are in this for entertainment and ratings rather than unbiased news.I'll stick to Aljazeera from now on,thank you very much.
My mum tells me there is now no cell service or Internet because of Obama 's arrival and boy am I glad I'm not in Kenya what would I do without Internet.
That's it.
Have a great weekend beanies.

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Klava -

If Seok-hoon uttered those words to Mi-yeon, it would confirm what she's been aware of all along. I think that since the beginning she's always known that he's never loved her. ...... She just never wanted to accept that reality.

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What would have made the show for me is if he had fallen in love with her at some point and then was really torn between love and revenge. That's where I hoped we were going ... her crazy behavior this episode was beyond out of the blue. Of all the characters and actresses who deserved better, none more than Mi Yeon.

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Heirs OST is not all bad. Except for 1 or 2 songs, rest of the songs are quite good. Examples: Lena Park, Big baby Driver, @ Young etc.

Sadly everyone remembers only Love is the Moments...one of the worst songs I've ever heard and ignores the other good numbers.

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You're right about that horrible Heirs song. Even today I have violent flashbacks and imagine that I am on a beach babbling Korglish that makes no sense at all. Heirs even now is still on my #1 hated drama of all time list.

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Even today I have violent flashbacks and imagine that I am on a beach babbling Korglish that makes no sense at all
Bwahaha ? horrific

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Unfortunately I'm among those who only remember the bad and generalise.Maybe I'll download and listen to the rest and try not to judge based on one horrendous song.

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I Remember You really is so good. I also always forget SIG started as a singer. But he's so charismatic as an actor and I'm sad this show isn't rating well because I wish he would just really take off as an actor.

Where did you watch Fashion King? I remember the trailer for it and it looked rather fun and silly.

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I'm sure the title has something to with the lack of ratings. From the stills & the title, I assumed it was a rom-com or melo, & I wasn't the least interested - and I'd bet other people who like cop shows felt the same way.

But the people who would be interested in an amnesia melo would be horrified by the serial-killer plotline & stop watching.

Just needed a better title & more informative marketing. I'm definitely buying a copy for the library when it's available.

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Happy Friday Beanies! Crazy times for me at the moment. So many things going wrong that I have no control over (culminating in my coworker having to go to the ER in the middle of the day yesterday - still waiting for an update on her although it's probably just stitches). Trying I work on my dramas but pretty much behind on everything.

Scholar This show is so cheesy and so fun! Lots of things make me laugh that shouldn't (like out dead prince stuck in a wall) but unlike last summers Watchman, this show is going for it full throttle. I'm one of the few who doesn't buy the lead romance and I feel badly because I really like both Lee Jun Ki and Yubi and think that individually they're killing it but...I think Yubi just always reads super young to me and seems more like an infatuated kid in everything instead of a woman. But again, I love them in this anyway. Also I've never seen Lee Soo-Hyuk I'm anything and I'm still in shock every time he opens his mouth.

Hidden Identity Only part way through episode 11. I'll most likely catch up today. This show is just amazingly full of plot holes but I've pretty much jut accepted that. I'm still enjoying many of the characters and will definitely see this one through to the end.

I Remember You My #1 right now so I'm definitely caught up. I really love it even if it's not perfect. The tone is really up my alley. I'm just worried with what the end game is going to be. Was anyone else happy to see the girl from Liar Game in these last two episodes? I hope she gets some meatier roles soon. Also, I love the actors. Pretty much all of them. I'm glad Park Bogum seems to be living up to his charasmatic potential (one of the best parts of Cantabile).

Orange Marmalade This show has finally found it's stride. I know a lot of people who stuck with it now really love but I'm just ok with it. It's hot some good moments now but a lot of them don't really feel earned. Good endings can't just be good on their own - the build up needs to be more authentic for me. Still, there's a lot of good now and I'm looking forward to the conclusion this weekend.

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Late Night Restaurant/Midnight Diner Only one episode in but I found it refreshing. I felt oddly disconnected, as if I were just watching clips from a persons life which doesn't really let me get emotionally connected but it also creates an almost fairytale quality if that makes sense. Plus there's yummy food!!

Oh My Ghostess I'm also really loving this! #2 right now for me. This cast also is so fun to watch. Like a lot of people I'm a bit nervous about how they're going to handle the love lines in terms of who is in the body. The plot is getting more complex as well which is nice.

Stuff I'm way behind on: Hwajung, I'm still in episode 25. I just can't bring myself to watch his downfall. Murphy, still only watched through 15 because I dint want noble idiocy or unnecessary angst. Time, still only seen the first two. I haven't even kept up with recaps. I like the leads but the rest really wasn't working for me. I know I'll go back to it but it may be way down the line. I Order You, I'm only a little behind but it got paused while I tried Midnight Diner which I think is better. Then again Yunho is army bound now so I should get myself to finish this.

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Random thoughts:

- I'm rather excited by Kim Woo Bin and Shin Min Ah dating. I love them both.

- Anyone watch the CF with Sungjae and Kim So-Hyun? Technically all of BtoB is in it but they're in the back. I think everyone knows School 2015's most popular ship.

- I started watching infinity challenge which I always resisted because some of the cast annoys me...but it was fun and I'm surprised at some if the people they got to come out for this years singing challenge. I look forward to the songs.

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I should start watching infinity challenge. Need to figure out why it is number 1 variety show for 10 years or something. Years ago, my younger sis told me it is her (and many young people's) favorite show so I attempted, but didn't like it much. Time to check out again.

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If you don't watch Infinity Challenge regularly, you need to watch the Music Festival arcs. I first started watching the show two years ago during that Festival and was hooked. (I was impressed that almost all the cast can sing---well!)

So far this year looks promising too. I loved G Dragon and Taeyang in their masks. I was also impressed with how intuitive and ON THE MONEY IU was with her guesses. Also, watching Yoo Jae Suk sing all the parts of Big Bang's song--and mimicking TOP's open eye style--I laughed a lot.

In the teaser for next week it looks like G, Taeyang, and Kwanghee might sing a Trot song.

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IU and her "pitch perfect" image is pretty accurate. She has an amazing ear. I loved how even JYP was like "Hey guys, guess what IU told me! She's so got this!".

A trot song?!?! Well it would be funny but I would love to see them do full on pop craziness. I really want Kwanghee to do a "YG-type" song. Maybe they're just doing a trot song for a fun warm up? I'm sure I'll like it no matter what though.

And I'm excited for Hyukoh to be on there...and now they've just signed on to Tablo's/YG's label. I'm hoping they create something epic too.

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I love the Music Festival and the matchups (did a quickie summary in my post below #19)

G-Dragon Taayang, and Kwanghee - yes!

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I watched a few eps of Infinity Challenge a couple of years ago. Loved it. Wanted to keep watching it but could never find a regular source for subs. Now I see it subbed regularly & I really want to go back & watch it. I'd love to watch it from ep 01 but that's probably impossible ( and CRAZY), right?

I totally broke down over the "I Am A Singer" episodes. I was so glad I watched them! Jinusean, Turbo, Uhm Jung Hwa, Bada....... Gahhhhhhh I was crying watching the audience reaction. I was humming all their songs for weeks afterwards.

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To be honest, I think it's hit or miss for me. I started watching not realizing that the episodes aren't always in order. Certain challenges are over several episodes...and sometimes they'll show different challenges in between. But once you get over the chronology it's better. It also depends on the challenges for me. But I definitely think it's worth checking out. As others mentioned, the singing challenges are really fun and popular...although it helps if you have an idea of who these people are (if you're just into dramas and not the music scene it might possibly be less fun).

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I agree with the noble idiocy in Murphy's Law - minus the noble part. I honestly don't understand the reason they can't be together. I'm force-watching this but if things do't turn around soon I'm going to drop it.

I love Shin Minh Ah and Kim Woo Bin too! I'm excited they're dating. I never would have paired them myself....but I hope it works out! Can you imagine how cute their babies would be!!

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I gave up on Murphy's Law long ago. As you noted, lots of idiocy with no nobility. Not to mention that so many Taiwan dramas seem to be super silly and just downright cheesy.

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Well I stopped watching so they haven't split yet. I just clearly saw it coming in the previews and threw up my hands in defeat. I feel like they have no reason not to be together anyway and already stuck with each other through so much.

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I agree with you I REMEMBER YOU is the best drama for me right now and coming close second is OH MY GHOSTESS ?

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Midnight Diner - Watched 4 episodes, and it is about 2 for 2. A couple of good ones, but a couple that are pretty bleh. But easy to watch since it is only 30 min.

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I'm curious which two you likes and which two were bleh for you? (You can just number them) I've now seen the first two. I like not watching them all at once. I'm curious though if they'll start overlapping characters more or bring some back. Surely these customers don't just overlap with the same people and not the others.

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I was wondering if anyone else was watching Late Night Diner! I've seen a few episodes, and so far I'm really enjoying it. I like the vignette style, and at about 30 minutes it's a short, sweet little story driven treat. Very curious about our cooking "master", though, especially with that scar on his eye and his very quiet manner.

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Yeah, I'm wondering too if they're going to reveal more about him or not. He's a really great observer though and pretty compassionate. I forgot to check - how many episodes is this show?

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@4D, Windsun33 & WM: yay, more Midnight Diner fans! :) I've gushed about this because the format of the drama is simply different than the typical kdrama. The episode is just about the right time length, the food looks yummy (I kinda wish there was more focus on the food -- but that's just the foodie side of me talking, ha).

I've seen eps1-5, and I agree with Windsun33 -- there are a few weak eps (for me, it was the Noodle Sisters and the Magician -- ep 3 & 5). I couldn't find myself feeling drawn to the Noodle Sisters' "first love" and the subsequent drama surrounding him, and the Magician's story was a bit blah for me (despite it being Ji Jin-hee...what a surprise that he'd cameo!).

As for the overlapping characters...there are a few that have recurred in other eps, but some (like ep1 & 2's character of the day) have not made return visits. I agree, it should not be the same ol' people over and over again, but it is a bit nice to have a new, fresh face for the episode's focus.

And I am also curious about the scar of Master's eye as well! I wonder if he was a gangster a la the guy from the first ep.

As for Shin Min-ah...you go, girl!!! :P

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The Noodle Sisters and the Magician seemed way off for me. The Magician one seems like it was unfinished, or something got left out in the editing. A really weird ending.

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@4D: oops, my mistake...the Magician ep was ep4. Didn't notice that 'til now!

@Windsun33: Good to see that I'm not the only one to think that those two eps were a bit off the mark. I saw the ending of the Magician one and was like, uh...what the heck happened to the ending? I, too, think it was a mistake in editing...although then that just seems odd that a major network like SBS would miss that before broadcasting it. Weirdness. The Noodle Sisters' "conflict of interest" was pretty lame, and how it got resolved (was it that he was two-timing her then? It was a bit confusing) was also a bit like...oh, let's just throw that in there so that they'll be friends again. Sometimes, I think that maybe these weaker eps are written by a different writer altogether...? The tone and general feel of these eps are a contrast to that of the stronger eps.
Have you seen this week's eps? I tuned in to ep7 (just jumped past 6, I'll get back to it later) because I heard of Oh Ji-ho's cameo. Was surprised at Nam Ji-hyun's cameo -- I think, in my mind, I'm still putting her with her What Happened to My Family's character, so it was a different look altogether.

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Hello everyone. I don't post in these threads usually, but there is an issue currently up which concerns Dramabeans and the readers here.

A new "site" called Zkpop has appeared which steals entire pieces from others, without crediting the original sites and authors. It has not replied to any contact yet and they are also now trying to trick readers. They make template posts, then wait for the original creators to make the content and then they paste it into those template posts. This makes it seem as if Zkpop created the pieces first.

They have Dramabeans pieces and have also taken from Allkpop, Koala's Playground, Couch Kimchi, HanCinema and more. Also from Dramajjang, owner Kwon Sang Seung of which is gathering photographic evidence of this thing and keeping people informed.

Here are two pieces written about it by Dramajjang. Please do not feed these thieves and warn any acquaintances which might visit. Spread the word so we can make sure people know until Zkpop get reported enough to shut down. 1 and 2.

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So they're stealing recaps and blog posts from other kdrama sites and making it look like they posted it first....

UGH HATEBEAM

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I read Dramajjang's post & it's spot on.

I hope the affected blogs report every stolen post to the site's host as well as file DMCA complaints so this site is taken down quickly.

In the meanwhile, I hope the drama community spreads the word about this site and no one visits it anymore.

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other than spreading awareness?! can we do any thing else to fight it?!!

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Hi, I got hit, too. There's a thread on http://www.cimiart.wordpress.com (my blog) under My Beautiful Bride episode 8 post with some steps that can be taken. Thanks to Kwon Sang Seung's heads up to me about it, others jumped in and offered help. revlow, Elle, Couch Kimchi and others listed tips and articles if you read down far enough on the MBB 8 post.

There is absolutely NO credit or links to any of the original posts that they've stolen.

If anyone has been successful in their attempts to stop ZKpop, let us know. Hopefully, if we all back each other, we can run them out of town.

Thanks.

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The owner of HanCinema has tried contacting them too, but nothing so far. No clue what the site will do later, but I imagine at least some of the places hit will report them. Allkpop must have put pressure on them and they apparently took those pieces down.

The owners of the places hit can try to contact them and if nothing happens, do a whois on them and send reports to the abuse email. I do not know of the procedures beyond that. I see talk of DMCA reports and such.

What we as users can do is to keep speaking about the issue when we can, to make sure as many as possible know about this. We can't stop them ourselves, but we sure as heck can alert people to their workings on big communities and social media.

Sadly, this is a common thing. Most bigger sites have dealt with such scammers frequently. I hope whoever has the energy and time for it can go after them.

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all the hate to the thief site, if they're on a platform we should definitely report the content theft.

I feel bad for the website owners having their content stolen like this, the thieves clearly have no shame.

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I'm late to the game. Here is the Whois info for Zkpop:

Hosting company is HostGator. Here is their contact info:
http://www.hostgator.com/contact

Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected]
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +81.337709199

As mentioned, some links to articles with steps to take are at owl's site:
https://cimiart.wordpress.com/2015/07/16/my-beautiful-bride-episode-8-recap/

Read down through the comments.

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Thank you for this and for all your help there in those comments. I am not affected personally (though the site I work for is) and it just angers me beyond belief. If enough people report, they will be taken down. It's just a matter of all the sites coming together for it.

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TGIF!
This week's news was-
Kim WooBin and Sin MinAh dating- yay for noona romance (SMA is 5 years older). They make good looking couple for sure.

On dramas:
HwaJung: I laughed on some comment which said Ep 30 must be the final episode. I get it because they made such a big deal about Gwanghae leaving. Even though I am glad they made GwangHae to shine in this show, I think they went too far -WTH He gave up his throne to save the princess? (eye roll)

Mask: I love to watch MW and JS scenes, but flaws of this show give me headache- severe one. The other leads' purpose in life 'You can't be happy because I am not happy' is simply absurd (another eye roll). I am glad this ends next week.

High society: I am glad this ends next week too.
I watch this to the end because of YiJi being my favorite character. Then again, JoongGi is doing better, and Park HyungSik is such an eye candy. But Yoo-na Ugh (another eye roll).

Oh well, I still have I remember you, My beautiful bride and Oh my ghost.
(I thought it was funny Kim SeulGi calling Park BoYoung Unni in the press conference because PBY looks so young. PBY said she had hard time acting hitting on JJS because she is shy, but now she got used it. Jo JungSuk says it is still hard for him acting against PBY hitting on him. I am glad show is doing well - as you know all four leads carried out their rating promises).

Hope YongPal and Mrs.cop is good.

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What kim woo bin and Shin min ah are dating wait how? ??? to Google

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Oh, liittle gumiho shark babies, cutest ever!

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I will not particularly miss High Society nor Mask. Both could have been much better. And I fear that even MBB is drifting in that direction now also.

At this rate I won't have much left to watch but older ones and My Ghostess.

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I'm liking mask with lots of ff...cause I'm pretty much marathoning on it right now. It's nice, all I need is to skip all the drama, and on to the sweet interactions. Ha! :P

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Oh boo, that makes me even less motivated to catch up on Hwajung. I know the end is coming or him...and that's such a crap reason too. Sigh.

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Enjoying Oh My Goddess.

Finally watched King of Dramas, which was quite enjoyable. I don't think it needed the love triangle with the female actress, although fortunately she was not a schemer. I just kept thinking "Girl, give up already. No matter how many times you say you'll wait, he has been over you for years." They could have just started the fun with her and Choi Si-won's character much earlier, because they were a riot together.

Anyone watching "I Order You"? I'm skip-watching because the acting – on all sides – is cringeworthy, the plot as cliché as it can get and the female lead sometimes just plain dumb. That said, I do like that the female lead has somewhat of a backbone when it comes to the ex-wife (who is another person that just needs to admit to herself that her ex is 100% over her).

Tried an episode of Midnight Diner. Pretty much an exact copy of the Japanese dorama, except that they swapped out the transgender guy and gave us a sweet flower boy. I guess that's how kdramas do it (Key of Life remake casting that was announced today does the same sort of thing.). K-Midnight Diner is still good.

Japanese dramas:
-37.5°C no Namida: this is quite promising (2 eps). The actors aren't the ones I usually watch and I can't say that one of them is spectacular, but I like the premise and so far it's definitely watchable.

–Akagi: I'm sure this would be even better if I knew anything about mahjong, but even with zero knowledge I'm intrigued already. Maybe just because Kanata Hongo is one of those actors that are sort of fascinating and generally always choose interesting roles/dramas. Having seen the first episode, my hunch I think he's playing to win even if that means he'll die. The geezer is too full of himself to realise that Akagi is exactly that kind of person – if he can defeat the old guy, he's willing to die for that.

Watched the Princess Jellyfish movie. Haven't read the manga, nor seen the anime, but let me just say that the highlight of that movie is Suda Masaki spending 75% of his screen time in drag. Hilarious. And amazingly gorgeous. Also love the fact that the girls in that house spanned such a wide age range (as in, the actors in real life).

Other than that, only reading recaps of various show while be glad that I dropped them early on or never started them. Yes, High Society and The Time I Held Off Confessing My Feelings for No Good Reason Other than to Annoy Viewers, it's you I'm talking about.

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I watched a few episodes of "I Order You", they are only 20 minutes and have no plot to follow, so it's not really demanding. But it's sooo terribly bad and features the worst acting by the male leads I've ever seen.

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That's why I'm skip-watching. Sometimes even without the subs (like, not going back when the subs are out because it's all so obvious). The first few episodes at least had some interesting food bits. And I'll give them that at least it's got a properly adult relationship.

But yeah, the acting is terrible. I don't think anyone in that drama can really act.

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Same here with the skip-watching. the FF button is your friend lately in a lot of current dramas it seems.

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I feel odd skip-watching a show that's on 20 minutes. I watched the first six episodes but then stopped for Midnight Diner instead. I'm sure I'll go back since I like having at least one short show to watch, but it's.....yeah, not very good. I don't really like any of them either.

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 Princess Jellyfish:

I like the story, very heart warming. I think they should have Princess Jellyfish 2.
My daughter said to me,'Suda Masaki looks better as a woman than a man. don't you agree?' I must say,' yes, him being a girl looked so pretty .' I have heard that he spent much time and effort to make him look pretty.

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It's a pretty predictable story – nothing new at all – but it's very watchable and done the right way with some pretty good actors, which is all quite a rarity with live-action films.

Suda Masaki is an awesome girl, and not just that: he's a full-blown fashionista that pulls off the craziest outfits. He must have had such fun doing the movie.

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alua ~

I thoroughly enjoyed Princess Jellyfish.

Masaki Suda's performance was fantastic. I enjoyed Rena Nounen's work as well. I was impressed with her in Amachan , (all 156 episodes).

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"The Time l Held Off Confessing My Feelings for No Good Reason Other than to Annoy Viewers"

LOL!

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Hahaha loved this!

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For some reason, reading this rather accurate title felt extremely satisfying ...

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Hahaha.. I'm on the brink of dropping this too, despite my love for Ha Ji Won and her chemistry with Lee Jin Wook..
can't stand the story..

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There's even better alternative titles in the recap comments for the last episodes (or second last?).

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*laughing*

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Hahaha this suggestion feels the most right of all those I've read so far. Or I might tweak it slightly to
"The Time I Held Off Confessing My Feelings For No Good Reason Other Than More PPL"

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@alua and bbstl: you guys just crack me up. d=

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That describes about 20% of all k-dramas in the past 5 years :P

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Actually, I think most dramas are best described by "The Time I Didn't Communicate with You Like Any Normal Adult Would For No Good Reason Other Than That There Would Be No 16-Episode Drama".

Communicate
= confess my feelings
= clarify a misunderstanding
= didn't make assumptions without any real basis other than my wild, k-drama inspired imagination
= didn't listen to the lies/delusions of a near or total stranger that obviously hates me but instead talked to the person I know/love/trust and should be talking to directly with about this issue
= etc.

[insert as appropriate for each particular drama]

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HAH! :D I could add a few more, like:

= I will not listen and interrupt you repeatedly when you do try to explain.
= If I see two people drinking coffee together, they are dating and/or cheating.. or both.
= If i am embarrassed because I got totally drunk and passed out, the best solution the next day is to run away and hide behind a vending machine.

Actually I guess if you worked at it, you could come with a list of about 50 like that :)

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alua -

I've never watched King of Dramas past episode 2...I'll have to give it another try. I loved Siwon in Skip Beat!

I skip-watched Princess Jellyfish just to watch the drag scenes.

I started watching a show called Q10...so far, it's a bit bizarre.

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I couldn't handle Skip Beat! I don't remember much other than that some of the characters were unbearable (pretty sure I dropped it after a couple of episodes too).

I don't find Siwon a particularly good actor (he's serviceable at best), but he had a fun character in King of Dramas, particularly the longer the drama went on.

Q10 is not bad. It's one of those quirky j-dramas.

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alua - I liked Skip Beat! overall. It was fluffy.
Everything was so exaggerated and over-the-top that it was a bit irksome to downright annoying in a few parts.

It was fun to watch Siwon get his come-uppance. I admired that he was able to let go of his image a bit and make fun of himself.
Ivy Chen grated on my nerves. So did the antagonist 2nd lead girl. But, I wanted to put the guy who played Siwon's manager in my pocket!

Q10 = quirky. Yep. but her voice is like fingernails on a chalkboard.

Switch Girl is still one of my quirky J-drama faves.
(Ouran Host Club)

Fluffy JDrama is campy and fun.
A secret I would only admit to here.

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Cant leave out Absolute Boyfriend or Kimi wa Petto either.

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I've been watching I order you ONLY cause it's 20 minutes and not too taxing for my brain. I really dislike the female lead. If it's not her acting or her constant pouting or unflattering dye job it's something else.
I keep hoping that the food will be featured more especially since I went through both seasons of Let's Eat and have started watching Late Night Restaurant but it's doubly frustrating to hear about how he spent so much time cooking, showing a wide shot of the 6 dishes he whipped up and then having her eat ONE bite and roll her eyes in orgasmic delight and then NOTHING.

I really need to stop watching it but other people have raved about it and I keep thinking I"m missing something.

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I don't think you're missing anything. It's a really low-quality production with people who cannot act in a drama that has no real story and is instead stuffed with one cliché and/or contrived scenario after another. I don't 100% dislike the female lead, I just dislike her most of the time. When she doesn't take the bait from the ex and just says "I don't care if the restaurant has your name, because that's just the past, but in the present he likes me". Unfortunately scenes like this contrast with her throwing a hissy fit, e.g. when she is deeply offended that he kissed her without telling her that he's a divorced man first.

I need to stop watching too, I think I'm only watching because it's 20 minutes (which I reduce to about 5 with skipping scenes) and because I want to see what further delusional nonsense the ex is spouting.

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< When she doesn’t take the bait from the ex and just says “I don’t care if the restaurant has your name, because that’s just the past, but in the present he likes me”.

Ooops, meant to say I kinda of like her when she's like this – because it's quite rare in kdrama.

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Pretty much the entire cast spouts delusional nonsense :P

Why bother with a plot when you can just toss in some food porn.

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But that's it, they don't even toss in food porn. And I keep hoping they will but sadly, no.

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I usually let it play in the background while I"m doing other things on the computer. It probably is a sign saying "stop watching" but I always feel like things will redeem itself. I can't stop reading a crappy book either so....

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Hi everyone! i hop everyone's enjoying thier summer! It's been a long time since I've been on OT! Real life is so time consuming!

I just moved to New Haven, CT and I was wondering if there were any meetup groups in the area - I would love to meet some fellow beenies! Let me know - I don't mind if the closes one is in New York either.

On the drama front I'm loving I remember you - it's a great mix of suspense, romance, and comedy for me! My Beautiful bride is great but it stresses me way more - it lacks those comedic moments to take the stress away. But I sort of enjoy how with each episode we dig deeper and deeper into their background and we get to see a more complicated web than I even suspected existed.

Mask is also on my to-watch list once I get moving out of the way. If anyone has any suggestions for life in New Haven, let me know! I'm totally new to the city and would love some tips!

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Also - did anyone watch the Thai drama Ugly Duckling Perfect Match? I absolutely loved it! It's so cute! Well...I haven't seen all of it. The subs take a while to come out - but I expect good things after watching the raw videos!

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Where did you watch this?

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if i may ask
where do you find eng subbed thai content, other than viki ?

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Sorry for the late response - busy moving. I think it's also on Youtube. I don't know who specifically posts it, but I find it though the link on this website: http://sinlapinthai.tumblr.com/

Only Ep 1-6 are subbed right now I think. Usually one episode is subbed per week so episode 7 should be coming shortly (I hope!)

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Long time no see!

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I really wish Oh My Ghostess was on Viki...there is so much to comment on!! I'm still enjoying it. Can't wait for new episodes

I was really disappointed in My Long Eun Dong's ending. It's like the writers just ran out of gas and coasted to the end. I just can't abide by the husband and father getting away with it. His apology was not enough , IMO!!!! He robbed a child of his true father and psychologically tortured Eun Dong for 10 years! "Sorry" just won't cut it. Plus absolutely NOTHING happened to that conniving witch. She just ruined everyone's life, people went to jail and all she has is a broken heart. Whatevs. There were so many other ways to close the show. I don't know, I needed more retribution, more revenge.

I'm finding more and more writers don't quite now how to seal the deal after 16-20 episodes haranguing our main characters. The endings are becoming so lackluster.

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I’m finding more and more writers don’t quite now how to seal the deal after 16-20 episodes haranguing our main characters. The endings are becoming so lackluster.

But that's been a thing in K-dramas for a long time, at least a decade.

Many villains are not there to be punished thoroughly for their crimes (moral, humane or legal), they are simply there to be forgiven by the protagonists.

There was this one K-drama five years ago: multiple characters have their lives ruined or got killed, the male lead character commits suicide, the villain says sorry, the other villain is just lead off-stage and forgotten and Big Bad's punishment is: not becoming the President of Korea.

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There was this one K-drama five years ago: multiple characters have their lives ruined or got killed, the male lead character commits suicide, the villain says sorry, the other villain is just lead off-stage and forgotten and Big Bad’s punishment is: not becoming the President of Korea.

Wow just out of curiosity, what drama is this?

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That was "Sign", a crime procedural/political conspiracy show set in an institute for forensics, with Park Shin-yang and Kim A-jung in the mail roles.

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It feels like we, the viewers, have an unspoken agreement with the writers. We will tolerate ALL evil things you do to our heroes/OTP - bankruptcy/poverty, family death, public embarrassment, harassment by thugs/loan sharks, bodily harm, loss of status, loss of first loves ...and more with the intention that at the end, the antagonists get their 'just desserts', as it were. No? What's the point, if in the end, nothing is ever really solved or better or justified? So frustrating!!!!!

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The writers must've been better people than me...cause I like my villains to get their comeuppance. I like them to suffer equal to what they've caused to others, cause...u know, it's drama! We hardly get that in real life!

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Well, I think as far as MLED's concerned, the few last minutes of the drama practically answered all of our questions: It was a story initially focused on the female lead, her story and her love affair. But "Our Love JJM" doesn't like those dramas, LOL..!
So, we watched everything from his perspective, with two female leads to be below par, too many secondary characters wandered around the 16 episodes doing almost nothing and finally, JJM's voice-over apart, that was a terribly ffw story. Honorouble mentions to both younger versions; they managed to solidify the whole story and they were fantastic in their roles.
I still think that was an idea for a 50-episode drama, hence the multiple secondary stories and their interactions...

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I felt both satisfied and annoyed by Eun Dong's ending. It was lovely (and surprising) that they managed to pull out a happy ending for everyone, and in just one short year! Huh. I did want her awful father and that witch to be tied up, left in deep holes and covered in kimchi on a hot day. Still really mad at the husband from what he did in Angry Mom, probably no getting over that :( But overall, a really good show that I'd recommend highly for romance and performances. Joo Jin Mo really is the "go-to guy" when you need intense emotion, whew ? what a hottie.

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Though I mostly liked the ending of "My Love", it irked me a lot that the coach and MIL apparently got off totally free. Oh well, I guess you can't always have 100% justice.

Agreed about the endings, especially lately. I wonder if the writers are straying away from the original plot as some kind of fan service and just end up making a mess.

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I, Fortunately (?), wasn't watching that show but I have to agree with your last comment...kdrama writers have an excruciatingly bad time with their third acts. I really just don't understand. Surely that's the one thing they really have to decide before the shooting starts. Knowing the end game is the only way for a good arc. And it's usually extremely unsatisfying and often doesn't deal with have the issues it brings up.

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What is funny about that is, I often think maybe the writer doesn't know what us the watchers wonder? But then, "bam!" the writer would voice the watchers' concern right there in the actors' conversations. Like the smelly girl drama, where the male lead was asking why that chef did the horrible killings. Answer? None given. I mean, wth? If the writers can't give answers to the questions raised, why bother writing the story at all? Don't take me wrong, I've loved kdramas enough that I've abandoned all Americans TV completely, but this non-follow up procedures a lot of writers do truly irks me.

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+1000 I'm especially irked by that too. I supposed I haven't watched kdramas long enough to really know trends but for me it feels like a lot of the dramas I've been watching lately have been really big on this mystery department. However, they're only good at the build up and then don't know what to do with it! It's pretty easy to build suspense, but for that suspense to be worth it is important. I remember reading that Agatha Christie used to write her stories backwards. She'd know the ending and go backwards and build on the extraneous storylines that way so people wouldn't know where to start looking for clues. That Smelly Girl drama was the WORST with the mystery. I loved our villain and I loved the cuteness of the OTP, but that killer plot was just so so so bad and aggravating. You don't just give serial killers really specific quirks for no reason! Meh.

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Hi Everyone!

I hope you are all doing well today. ....... I'm absolutely hating the summer weather we're having! There's only so much heat and humidity I can deal with. ...... I almost want to say that humidity shouldn't exist. It causes nothing but problems! ..... But I know, that's not going to happen unfortunately.

Watched this week:

Mask - Still enjoying this very much. Truly an addictive watch. ..... Last night, I just watched the episode with the cake! *laughing*

I Remember You - Oh so good! I never want to miss an episode. ....... I'm finding Seo In-gook's natural characteristics serving him quite well for playing his role. He's simply wonderful in this. ...... And that forensic doctor and the lawyer! Both actors playing them doing a phenomenal job of being professional yet giving off that creepy vibe.

The Time I've Loved You - Decided to check this out this past weekend. I only watched the last 5 minutes of ep 1 and I thought I really didn't miss much. ...... For ep 2, I did watch the entire episode. ....... I don't know if this is good or bad but, all I can remember is that Ha-na likes to play with her hair too much, Won is scared of saying what he really wants to say and I noticed that L must have taken speaking-voice lessons.

That's it for now. ....... Take care everyone and have a great Friday!

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I stopped on Time after episode 2. I've yet to find the urge to continue despite my love of the leads actors. It's not bad, it's just...uninspiring?

On the other hand, I love I Remember You. That trio was absolute perfection this week. So good! I wish that could continue for a while.

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Hi all:
Dashing off so I'll be quick:

Oh my ghostess: current fave. So glad that although ghostie is the one who awakens certain aspects of Chef, it's Miss Timid who gets to date him. So are we dealing with an evil spirit in our cop big-bad or has he gone over into demon territory?

My Beautiful Bride: Wow, My crush on Do Hyung grows more and more. I'm stil worried about the leak in his brain. But get me a bank guy soon! I obviously have been missing strong macho loving types all this time. And is Ahjusshis Chairman a cannibal?

Mask: Good Lord, woman, give up on your obsessive love for your murderous hubby. What a pair! Min Woo, I like you and all but you are waaaaay wussy for me. Just so much caring I can do for a guy whose wife and sister are always out to protect him because he's so weak.

Scholar: Dropped. Something about the story is truly bothering me. So wanted to hang with my bias who has got to be the sexiest creature in kdramas right now. Has there ever been a character whose oozes dangerous sexuality to such an extent.

High Society: Chang Soo, Man up! Of course i've never been super-rich so i don't know what all stresses one gets into when pondering giving it all up. I'd like to see Chang Soo pondering poverty and real life..or even working that insecurity. But Park Hyung Sik is such a fave of mine, I can't pick on him too much. Mistress...let it go. Or will she cause a major turn in the plot?

Blluebird's House: Seriously, Hyeondo? Did you really just betray your friend? I'm still not clear if he and his beloved are brother and sister.

I Remember You: Caught up. Liking it. Sad for angsty Doengsang.

Assembly: So far, so good.

Awaiting, LAST, this weekend.

That's about it.

Have a great weekend, all.

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<Blluebird’s House: Seriously, Hyeondo? Did you really just betray your friend? I’m still not clear if he and his beloved are brother and sister.

What did he do? (Note: I skip-watched this for a while, but I probably haven't seen the last 10-15 episodes.) I have to say I found Hyeondo such an unbearable character from the start that I just never understood why either Ji-wan or Eun-su gave him ANY time of day. They should have just completely blanked him whenever he said "I'm your friend" in his complete self-delusion.

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I skipped from episode 6-36. Now am back because Taesu is now found out and there's a battle going on between him and Jiwan. So the Korean habit of everyone keeping secrets from everyone else created a situation where recorder w/evidence is given away by unsuspecting heroine to Hyeondo. Quite a mess.

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I don't think I will go back to this. The whole situation of "secrets" and the absolute belief of some of the characters (Taesu most of all) that they have a "right" to control the lives of others in whatever way serves them best (i.e. cover up their own crimes or feed their own greed) made me so, so angry in the early episodes.

Pity that Lee Jun-Hyuk has to be wasted in dramas like this, he deserves better.

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That was one of the reasons I had a problem watching it also. Seon-hui shouldn't have been keeping secrets either.

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Remember Carole, you said we can share Do Hyung. leak in brain, oh, forgot, since this week's bodily injury was getting whacked across the head with a flaming beam in a burning factory. Macho? Yeah.

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I'm actually worried he'll die.

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NO WAY!!!

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Actually I do wonder if he will die in the end. I fear that there would not be an happy ending if the tone of the drama continue the way it has been,,,,

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Owl ~

I want Do Hyung's shoes, he goes running, biking, fighting, etc., all while wearing dress shoes !

They need to show him eat or sleep now and then too.

I did buy a pair of training shoes by New Balance and they're the most comfortable shoe I've ever worn.

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John, I did think about his lack of eating and sleeping, too. Lean mean fighting machine. On the other hand, chairman Kang, have grill will travel?

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Owl ~

He always plays with his food.

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I am SO with you about Min Woo. He's been the weak link in the drama for me from the beginning. But it's the loan shark who makes me want to poke my eyes out.

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Loan shark is a strange kind of comic relief. I love this actor so much and he's definitely campy. Regular evil versus the evil of Big arsonist.murderous/poisoning obsessed lover Big Bad.

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Hi Carole :)!

I'm not really sure how I feel about Scholar. I mean, to me, something is lacking. Would you mind sharing with us what was bothering you about it?

Regarding Oh My Ghostess, I actually wrote a post last thread on the character of the cop. I'm really interested in that part of the story.

Take care :)!

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I can't quite put my finger on it. Partly because I want to see if the writer is doing what I think he's doing. I don't want to judge too quickly but yes there is something about it that seriously bothers the writer in me. It's not even the long scenes where people pretty much do nothing but talk..it's something else. I stopped watching at episode 4; that's when the "something is not right" factor kicked in for me. And I've never looked back to give it a second chance. Which is odd because I'm pretty good at working with a show even if I think it's bad. Maybe I'll wait to see what Jon G says. He's pretty insightful.

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For me, I just think that there is so much potential that can be tapped into, but instead we are being given typical drama fare. I think this is one of the reasons why I've mostly given up on watching dramas, or at least why I've been dropping many dramas.

Has Jon G been commenting on the specific episode threads or on the open threads? I guess I should check out his posts as well.

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He's very insightful.

Scholar's worldbuilding is pretty meh, definitely. I liked how Arang created a whole system of beings with power, checks, and balances.

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Yes, I really liked the world building in Arang. I also really enjoyed the mood and tone of the show. It lost some of its footing around episode nine or so but did manage to pick itself up after a little while. It remains one of my favorite dramas.

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oops, i forgot to mention I saw my first Laotian Horror Flick yesterday. Done by a friend of a friend. It was well-done. It's uploaded here on youtube. So check it out when you can. Thanks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYTUlMKd_BI

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Re: And is Ahjusshis Chairman a cannibal?

Funny while I watched the scenes where the Chairman eats meat, I just felt that the meat is human flesh and I hated the scenes... and I thought that I was thinking too much. Apparently, I was not the only one!

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Chairman creeps me out...but wow, i "respect" the man. Calm old gangsters are so not to be messed with.

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Wow, I'm surprised you dropped Scholar! I'm watching for pure cheese and fun. I'm not really viewing this as a story with an merit. I also have never seen your bias in anything and I'm totally mesmerized by his voice (but I love LJK).

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I might try going back to it because i love all the actor so much but until I put my finger on what's bothering me about it I feel kinda bothered and unsettled abot it. I do love the cheese...and I so miss LSH's voice and LJK's cheeky angst. Heck, even Changmin's doing ok.

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Happy Friday everyone!! ^_^ I've been feeling kind of weird with my dramas lately, because either I'm bored with them from the start, or I become bored with them around the halfway point/towards the second half. And usually I'm pretty easy to please when it comes to dramas, especially since most of the currently airing dramas are ones that I think I would usually enjoy. Feeling kind of sad about it. :(

Scholar: I love Lee Jun-ki but I also really really love Kim So-eun and I'm having trouble letting go of that couple despite how short and cliche their story was LOL. :( Lee Yubi's doing a great job with her character, but somehow I just can't feel the sparks between her and Lee Jun-ki. A lot of their moments feel contrived to me, as if they're trying too hard to make this couple a lot more romantic than they actually are, but I know a lot of people seem to enjoy it.

Mask: this used to be my favourite out of all the currently airing dramas, but now I've completely lost interest in it. It's been dragging a LOT lately - there's literally been nothing going on except for a whole lot of moping and vase-crashing and crying. All the dramatic, crazy tension has disappeared. Should've been a 16 episode drama imo. :(

Oh My Ghostess: so cute!!! Probably my second favourite out of all the current ones airing atm. Park Bo-young is AH-MAZE-INGGGG I LOVE HER SO MUUUCH. <3 The only problem I have with this drama is that I want to see more of Bong-sun than Soon-ae, so I was a little disappointed and frustrated when Soon-ae possessed Bong-sun again in the latest episode. Looking forward to the new episodes though!

Orange Marmalade: this one is honestly just plain confusing. I don't understand any of the choices the writer made with the story, which is really really really disappointing because I fell in love with the first three episodes. And then it went downhill from there. The plot has become so inane, the female lead has no personality AT ALL, and no matter how much I try, I just CAN'T understand why you would split the timeline into three separate parts like that. You're basically building up your story, ripping it apart, and then re-building the exact same story again three goddamn times, leaving no room for emotional investment, dramatic tension or character development in any timeline.

I Remember You: LOOVEEE!!! <3 Strangely enough, this was the drama I was most disinterested in when I first started watching it, but I've really gotten into it now and it's my favourite out of all the ones on this list. :D The story's great, the characters are great, and it's SO refreshing to have a heroine like Ji-an, who's strong and confident in such an understated way. For me, the main risk with having a character like Hyun become romantically involved is that he becomes OOC once the romance starts to develop, so I really hope they continue to do justice to his character the way they have...

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Yeah, i'm really getting into I Remember You. It started well but it put me off for a while with the directing which felt plodding or over-the-top. But now i'm realy liking it.

Totally agree with you re Mask. The last episode could easily have been spent showing us why Seok Hoon is so angry.

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Mask - same here. It all just went kind of weird, with some totally irrelevant or plot-disconnected scenes. I think what really pushed it down for me was EP18 - you gotta wonder just how many times someone can fall for promises made by a psycho killer and not figure out she is doing something wrong.

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YEah when Ji Seok/Eun ah actually believed psycho would let her start a third life I thought... "well, that's odd." But then she writes a LETTER for wussy true love and just leaves it on his desk. Apparently, she couldn't just come back in her third life and introduce herself. I mean, who leaves letters around for evil sister-in-law to find. Kdrama writers tend to make it easy for themselves when it comes to plotting but wow! In a house with all tht strategy/counter-strategy stuff going on, who leaves notes like that lying around?

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Hello Beannies! Happy Friday to all!

I Remember You - totally enjoying this drama! I seldom listen to OSTs but the three songs are just great! And I'm still waiting for Jang Nara and Seo In Guk to sing an OST!

Mask - Maybe it will be ending but I can't bring myself to watch this week's episode :(

Excited to watch Oh!My!Ghostess tomorrow once the subs are out! hihihi

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The third OST for IRY is my favourite! And for OMGhostess, I watched it raw and now I can't wait for episode 8 after seeing the preview!!!

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Is the third by Hong Dae Kwang - It Shows? because that's my fave too!!!

For OMG, I will have to wait till tom to watch it huhuhu I can understand but just a little so patience is a virtue hahaha

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@neener yes by Hong Dae Kwang :D I love that song so much ?

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Seriously, "I remember you" got it all right, small wonder nobody wants to watch it. They even found good Korean pop music for the OST. They were just asking for trouble this way.

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Jon G. -

That nobody wanting to watch is the result of "getting it right" is truly unfortunate.

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It hurts that the ratings aren't as high as I thought. Wishing it will do well on the international audience.

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Yup - Remember is one of the very few I am invested in anymore. Ratings came up a tad in last episode, but still not good. Sad, because it is for sure one of the better shows going right now.

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neener -

I agree, the OST for I Remember You isn't bad at all!

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IKR! It's been a long time since I got hooked to an OST like this!

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Oh my Ghostess: Just started the 1st episode and though it's not as light as I thought it would be, I still enjoy it very much. Park Boyoung is really good!

Mask: I watched ep.18 (SPOILERS) and though everything is pretty much spinning out of control, I love how Minwoo conquered his fear of water and SWAM to save Jisook!
Also I am quite frustrated how Jisook did not see the window for escaping...whatever. I'm just watching this to the end for the OTP.
As for Miyeon, I think she isn't all that evil? When she pulled Jisook, I think there was guilt in her eyes. Her loyalty to her blood family (meaning Minwoo) is the only thing I accept about her, I think.

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Ah, that window! I kept shouting "Smoke inhalation. Woman, there is a window behind you!" It would've been so much more convincing to have her fighting to open the window or to break it or wondering if she should jump from the balcony. But noooooooooo she just stood there...not coughing.

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Hey, guys!

I've always wanted to ask if there are any Beanies in Berlin? It's such a big city - and I can't seem to find anyone to talk about K-Drama stuff... :)

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If you want to meet up, I'll be in Berlin for a few days in November. Are you on Viki? We can PM each other. I'm ktiep2003.

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I wasn't. But I am now.
The user name is Pollywood. Hit me up :)

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I just visited last weekend.....

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Like many others, I'm enjoying "Ghostess" and "Remember You".

Remember You is now in that difficult middle part of the show, but they still try to keep the format going.

Ghostess is much riskier, I still have the same issues/doubts I had two weeks ago: How will they find a balance with their two female lead characters, especially when the first female lead character is a pretty horrible human being (luckily, she isn't one)?

I've given up on High Society, but I'm still watching out of curiosity. How will the writer try to solve anything in this show?

Put Beautiful Bride on a hold. I just couldn't deal with the Chronic Abduction Disorder by a certain character several episodes ago.

Dropped everything else last week already.

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I'm confused by what you're saying here. Bong-sun is horrible? Or Soon-ae?

What struck me in the last episode (not the one from today) is that Sun-woo doesn't really like Bong-sun when she is possessed by Soon-ae. He finds her annoying. Like that scene when she is constantly throwing herself at him, trying to touch him and he's just cringing and pushing her away. While when it's Bong-sun withdrawn self, he's just concerned. Of course this might change, but at the moment this is helping me in terms of distinguishing how Sun-woo's feelings are different in terms whether he's interacting with Bong-sun or with Soon-ae in Bong-sun's body.

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So far, Soon-ae is the 1FL character, isn't she? Bong-sun's ultimate shrinking violet might be annoying, but Soon-ae, as a human being, is indefensible. Her only redeeming quality is her love for her family. (That and her cheekbones. #GoT)

What struck me in the last episode (not the one from today) is that Sun-woo doesn't really like Bong-sun when she is possessed by Soon-ae. He finds her annoying. Like that scene when she is constantly throwing herself at him, trying to touch him and he's just cringing and pushing her away. While when it's Bong-sun withdrawn self, he's just concerned. Of course this might change, but at the moment this is helping me in terms of distinguishing how Sun-woo's feelings are different in terms whether he's interacting with Bong-sun or with Soon-ae in Bong-sun's body.

I don't think he finds Soon-ae annoying, or "manic Bong-sun", as he sees her. He finds her behaviour annoying. He is still concerned about her whether she's manic or depressed (again, from his PoV).

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I find ghostess so intrusive. After Arang I've come to expect virgin ghosts to be very selfish and intrusive, but even filial love isn't enough for me to say that Ms Ghost has the "right" to push herself literally into someone else's life.

I feel sorry for her and her plight but her fear of becoming a demon with a grudge makes me wonder how bad could she possibly be when/if she becomes a demon. I think it's pretty clear our OTP is Bong-Sun and Sun-Woo. I'm just hoping Ghostess doesn't fall in love with hero and want to "reside" in a usurped body permanently.

I suspect the cop grieved so much over the ghost's death that his soul was easily taken over by the demon who now inhabits his body. So maybe there's a chance for us to see the other "hidden" soul within cop's body. We haven't seen him as yet. Is the spirit of the good monklike cop still around in the cop body? Do demons have total control about leaving and entering a body?

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