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Andrew Choi – “노래처럼 (World About U)” [ Download ]

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Good Morning, My Wondrous Beans!

I am…watching a LOT of stuff at night, and up to my ears in work during the day. So things are good! How about you?

Age of Feeling* – love
Cunning Single Lady* – decent, not compelling (although…Puppy is worth it all on his own, truly.)
God’s Gift – As a mom I just…ugh. On the plus side, Dong Chan!
Three Days – Yoochun, I’m glad I get to look at your sweet squishy face so much. I’m saying right now that the President is in on this, but I haven’t completed the 3d episode yet.
Emergency Couple – They have a LOT of ground to cover and not much time left to do it in. I adore everyone in this except for that one horrible mother that I hate in absolutely everything ever.
Bride of the Century* – Scheming Mothers aside, this is a big fluffy bundle of adorable OTP and a compelling need to hug the sad sad OppaNotOppa and just FEED him something.
Wonderful Season – just started, but already have a strong wish to sit peacefully in a room with Seo Jinnie…and I loooooooooove the female lead anyway, and I really like the LOOK of the thing.
Secret Love Affair – have only been able to watch part of the 1st episode so far, but I know I’m in. It’s YAI. That mouth, those eyes, that voice. They have been out of my life too long. And he’s going for the noona, which just makes me so very very happy.
*discussed in great detail elsewhere.

Anticipating with an excitement I could not BEGIN to describe to you: Gapdong, and with only slightly less enthusiasm, You’re Surrounded (both of which might be discussed at length elsewhere, depending on how they go.)

Plus in English I’m still a faithful watcher of The Walking Dead and The Following. You can always tell the winter by my tv load, and we had a particularly cold winter with a lot of really fun tv shows this time around, didn’t we?

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Woah!! When do you sleep???!! I don't even understand....

Now I feel woefully inadequate with my time management skills...

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Sadly, I don't much. Or at least I do, but can't seem to manage more than 3 hours at a stretch. Ahhh, menopause.

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Is it weird that I'm a bit jealous?? I can't imagine how much more I would get done if I slept less!

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The extra time gained is lost by being relatively unmotivated to do anything that would interfere with the next nap, which could come at any time.

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Happy Friday Joanne and all ya Beanies out there! Eagerly looking forward to Ep 9-10 of Bride of the Century this weekend. Koala reports there's gonna be a wedding of the OTP. Yay!

K-ent news from Manila: Lee Min Ho just planed in for a fun meet with fans. The young person with me is squeezing all over the place. Am sure if this ahjumma goes to the meet, my family and friends will collapse in shock.

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Not that it matters to me, I am falling hopelessly behind in my drama watching, but can you warn before SPOILERS?

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Julia, sorry about that. Will be more careful next time.

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JoAnne -

I'm exited for the new CSW drama. I was pouring over the stills from the script reading. Does my man look hawt or what?

I have to confess I fell asleep while watching SLA, even with YAI. But those ears are still very captivating

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I'm waiting for SLA to air a bit longer...but I might have to check if for those ears...

JoAnne unni - you are a batoost!

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hmmm.

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A drama batoost! RAWR! No...? Heh.

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I couldn't remember what it meant, although I knew I'd seen it. Looked it up :) Thanks!

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[giggle] I pictured someone eating too many beans....

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HAHA the EYK version of b2st, for anyone else who doesn't know! BEAST!

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@Shuk - that's a batooter

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Or maybe a sheep that eats too many beans???

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Oh, please, go back to SLA and try again. I never before fell so hard during the first ep. It's just perfect. This show promises to deliver believable characters in a well-build story. I am very much looking forward to this ride. Pun not intended.

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Newbie -

Late nights and early mornings sapped me this week. Don't worry, I will try again!

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You will not be disappointed. Promise!

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It is OK to wait for a quiet moment. SLA is one of those shows that rewards attention. For example, one sharp poster pointed out the similarity in staircases at our two contrasting homes, and what it said about our protagonists.

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So true! The stairs are an important hint.
This show knows how to tell a story. With words, subtext and pictures.
Oh, I so hope it's gonna be good. Really good.

SPOILERS
At the end of the duet in Ep 2 both looked like they just had made love. Especially him, his breathing, sweating etc. *squee* Very much hope, this show will deliver to the mature audience.
/SPOILERS

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@skelly: ooohhh... did not even think about the stairs! (Well -- other than Hye-won walking up them and disappearing like a goddess or angel or whatever Sun-jae might have been picturing in his poor blown mind at the time... ;) )

But yes there is a connection... (Where does this sharp-eyed poster live? Soompi? *wonders*)

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I didn't like the first of episode of SLA either, but the second episode was slightly better. The only thing I enjoyed was when YAI and KHA were playing the piano and even that felt longer than necessary. I don't know if it's me, but I think the two leads kind of share a resemblance.

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Hi JoAnne..HP OT everyone^^
woah..I envy how u can manage ur time to watch all those and I often see ur name too here..As for me, though I can watch some dramas but sometimes I will choose only one to focus or maybe fan girling..haha..This time only "3DAYS" caught my full attention maybe it's because of Yoochun in it but I do think he's doing a great job so far..Love him as Han Tae Kyung and Park Ha Sun as Bo Won..But I'm still following these:
"EMPRESS KI", "GG-14DAYS", "EMERGENCY COUPLE" and now continue watching "I NEED ROMANCE3"..stuck at ep.11..I want to try watching "Bride of the Century" too later..

Happy watching everyone^^

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@ bluesky, I'm also watching I Need Romance 3 on my train rides to and from work. Also in the midst of ep 11 now. Loving Shing Shing and Sweet Potato!

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Out of your list, I'm only caught up with God's Gift. Three days will soon get my attention, but I've been distracted with Dong Chan's movies this week :)
Been reading good things about Secret Love Affair, but truth is I'm not really a fan of noona romance. I will at least check it out for YAI though!

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Hi JoAnne,
Secret Love Affair feels so Japanese to me. The lighting, the pace, the subject, even the style of the actors, So far, I really like it, too.

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Yay owl.. I am foreseeing many quotes to come from there. Epi 1 gave us a good one

"When a woman reaches forty, dignity is her biggest charm."

And here i am hoping that someone out there might prefer indignity and indignance. Anybody??

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enz - That's a good one. It's a great complement to one from INR3: "She's at the age where her mere existence makes her sparkle."

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And that perennial favourite of mine

"I am at the age where being embarrassed is embarrassing."

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Hello, have you ever spoken to any of us?

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So Enz, do you think this is one I would like? Almost all of my dramas are wrapping up and besides BotC, which is midway, I haven't started anything! Was thinking of taking a break..........says me every month for the past four years......

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Yes definitely. I think it is a very demanding drama emotionally AND one needs to concentrate too because of the complex relationships between all those folks and the politics of the college etc.

But i love it already. Slow and deliberate. I already feel the fire. :p

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Well, it looks like I might have to try it. I've loved that actress in several things. Don't kill me, but I'm not a YAI fan. But that could easily change, depending on the drama.

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I was indifferen to him but honestly, i havent seen him in anything bar a few episodes of SKKS. I may fall HARD here!

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I kind of agree with you. The fashion style of the main actress is more Japanese,,styled with few colours and simple design,, it's almost plain but she in the clothes shines with her subtle elegance. She is a muse whom the Yoo Ar In guy never associated with .Her presence is elegant and a mystery to him.
while they were playing together, their faces were shining,,, is it because of their make up , lighting or else they were really sweating??,,, I could not figure it out.
Yoo Ar In does not look Japanese,,, he is a man without a border.

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"a man without a border" so true!

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Secret Love Affair - the best thing I'm watching so far. The cliffhangers I really like. They seem a bit different from the usual K-drama cliffhangers.

But seriously, watching the heroine enjoy music feels a bit voyeuristic. She responds so sensually that it borders on sexual. It's music soft porn.

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JoAnne!

I am sad to see the ends of the Full house thai squeecaps. But at least we still have the Bride of the century ones to go.

Also really looking forward to Gap-Dong. Not long left now!

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Wow, I kind off envy you for being able to watch so much. But then I do like my sleep and I'm worth nothing with only a few hours of sleep.

I'm so excited for gapdong too! There's so much on my to see list at the moment!

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Not to mention the hours of snarking she you do for all these dramas! Sleep is highly over-rated! I need to pick up some new dramas fast as my supply is running low.

BTW, I want to thank all the Beanies who stopped by the Name That Kiss Contest It ends this weekend, but there is still time to enter. Click on my name for a list of hints!

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Anticipating with an excitement I could not BEGIN to describe to you: Gapdong

ME TOO ME TOO!!!! *jumps up and down*

I admit, I'm all in for Lee Joon and Kim Ji-won, and thrillers are so my thing.

re: western tv, have you tried Orphan Black? It's sci-fi, and the lead actress, Tatiana Maslany, is really phenomenal. I'm glad Season 2 has finally started so I'm not going nuts any more!

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Orphan Black is high on my list, but not yet!

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i'm more or less hesitant in picking up kdramas with noona-romance because the relationships don't always play out the way i want it to.

HOWEVER, like you mentioned, Secret Love Affair got me in the 1st episode. and i have to credit Yoo Ah-in because he is just SO great here. i don't know how some of you guys can sleep through this, but SLA it just hit all the right notes for me. honestly thought YAI was blah in Sungkyunkwan Scandal (i was in it for Yoochun), but he is the most EXCELLENT in SLA. it's the subtle emotions that get me...glassy eyes, furrowed brows, (pouted lips OMGAD)...i don't know, he's just gives me this kind of innocent, boyish charm...that makes his character candid and interesting.

if you haven't watched SLA or are in the fence about, at least try watching the first two episodes. not only are the characters fleshed out/interesting, there cinematography is worthy of noting. oh the pretty to my eyes. story-wise, i'd say you're in for a ride of some oh-ma-gad-draaaaaama. you definitely see it in the previews at the end of episode 2. anyways, i'm going to stop talking now bc i don't want to jinks the show...haha, HAPPY FRIDAY/SATURDAY!

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That's so true! This is an omgggggg dramaa! And their steamy hot pictorials in ELLE just make it worst! They're making out already there LOL! :D

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I Solemnly Swear That I Will Keep My Eyes Open While I Watch The First Two Episodes
- Signed, Shuk

:-D

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Happy Friday, everyone!

It has been a busy busy week, what with the bipolar weather: sleet/snow versus 68F, within two days. Now that we are past the equinox, can the cold weather please migrate to the southern hemisphere? Thanks!

- Full House Thai is completed. It was a great little ride, although the last episodes dragged with mopiness and flashbacks. But overall, one of my favorite Thai productions so far. It's not really a lakhorn, though, since it misses a lot of the elements you normally find. Still, squeecapping it was fun!

- I'm madly recapping Bride Of The Century, and I hope to have episode 5 up this weekend. Unfortunately, my co-conspirator, JoAnne, had many demands on her time. Still we are plugging along!

- And, as another shameless plug, kakashi and the SqueeCapping troupe are also doing Cunning Single Lady, Age of Feeling (more for Mo than anything), and a new/old favorite, Nail Shop Paris!! Can't get too much Song Jae Rim, in my book. :-D That one should come out soon.

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Now, a question for bloggers. Someone made a comment about the fact that I double space after each sentence, and it's made me a bit self-conscious about it. I discovered it sometimes makes the sentences go awry, but as a thirty-plus year habit, it probably won't go away in my case. How many others out there do this?

Last, but certainly not least, I have an East Coast KDrama meetup tomorrow, where I'm finally going to meet 4 other KDNuts from Maryland and Virginia, centralizing at a Korean restaurant in Fredericksburg. I wonder what we will talk about? LOL

I hope everyone is safe and happy this weekend. :-)

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I double space after the sentences as I was taught on a manual typewriter in junior high school. When did they change the rules? Oh heavens, more things to adapt to? Will my head explode?

"Who wants to live forever" Queen song ... not me. I personally would end up one of those Vampires who can't keep up with current fashion trends and technology. A half century already feels like a very long time to have lived in this changing world.

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Me too! Space is good. And putting in breaks between paragraphs. A hundred sentences running together is difficult to read, so I skip any post that is like that. I am of the generation also that learned to type on a manual typewriter. No autocorrect! No carbon copies! Life is so much easier now...

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RockPaperScissors -

My first typewriter was an IBM Selectric with the little round font balls (dang, I can't even remember what they are called). It had the auto-erase function, but that didn't help the carbon copies for sure.

Remember those little pencil thingies that had eraser in stead of lead? I'm sure there's one in a time capsule somewhere: "Greatest Inventions of the Twentieth Century"!
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I can't read posts without breaks between paragraphs either. I'll skip right past it.

Funnily enough, I was having this exact same conversation with my Mum the other day (i'm 27 but typewriters are still before my time). We were praising auto correct and she was saying how long it took to do anything on a type writer, ha ha. I'm glad I'm of the generation that grew up with computers!

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Young paduwan makes fun of elders, I see.
lol

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I blame Microsoft Word. One of their innovations was to detect a single space between sentences and do the appropriate formatting on the printed page so it had two spaces. However, in applications that do not have the magic-add-the-right-extra-space software to properly do page layout, then two spaces should be put in.

However, people stopped learning the 2 spaces between sentences, one space became acceptable, then things like WordPress came along and foo-bar their formatting if you correctly put in the two spaces. Then they blame you the user for their lazy programming!

As a dyslexic, I beg of you people, give me white space at the end of sentences and between paragraphs to have something to hold on to and rest while tackling the complex process of reading.

"Life, like page design, needs a little white space." - Robin Williams, page designer

(former programmer, tech hater, grump)

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That is a super hard habit to break. Even on Twitter, I usually have to go back and take out the extra space. That's just how I type! See, doing it here. Oh well

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I had to Google about two-spaces after a period. Convinced me I have to accept the one-space rule as "correct" with the fact that typographers agree including the 'Chicago Manual of Style'.

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2011/01/space_invaders.html

Time to get me a new copy of the Chicago Manual of Style and figure out what else has changed to typography since I stopped looking ... like underlining book titles.
http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/home.html

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Why didn't I think to check Wiki first? TeX, kerning, typography, style guides, proportional fonts ... such a walk down memory lane for me. Off-off-topics are my specialty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentence_spacing

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I'm with you. When did they change the double space after a sentence rule?! LOL I learned to type back in the mid 80's so to adapt now would be impossible.

Wish I lived back east, I'd love to meet some fellow KDrama fans. Seems like a lot of KDrama fans out your way. I'm in California. Where are you, west coast peeps?

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imfaerae -

I was in California for the Infinite concert in San Jose and met up with some excellent KDrama peeps! So they are definitely out there!

Of course, being from California, they are definitely "out there" too. LOL

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I was at the San Jose Infinite concert too! Didn't know there was a chance to meet some beanies there! B2ST and Infinite are my two favorite KPop groups. :)

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I was wearing a made-for-the-concert bright pink fuzzy vest, fyi. :-D

And if B2ST ever makes it to the USA, I will definitely be there!

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FHThai was ADORABLE, but really indulgent and slow in the last episodes. Definitely the best one and Mike is so amazingly beautiful when he smiles...Hehe.

Have fun at the meetup! Anyone out in Colorado...??? Anyone...???

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Any ideas on how can I find out more about meeting up with other KDrama lovers in the Mid-Atlantic area (especially Virginia)?

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LizJ -

I basically started chatting with my Twitterbeans and found out some were nearby, and decided lunch was in order.

I picked a geographical (okay I based it on GoogleMap drive times - geo-time-ical?) center, and Google-Fu'd a restaurant. Sent the evites to see who would shake down!

We will probably try another in the August timeframe, depending on if our West Coast unni makes it to the Eastern Seaboard.

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Double spacing between paragraphs is also a habit of mine.

It's also a rule I've followed for decades. It enhances readability and contributes, in a way, to coherence, don't you think?

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dramabliss -

I never really thought about it, but someone pointed out that the extra spaces have an effect on the overall appearance of the blog post. So I started paying attention, perhaps too much. lol

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@ Shuk--

Oh, sorry, I misread your post. I used to make a double space after each sentence because that's what I learned from using the typewriter. Made text more readable. But with computers, I've learned somewhere that you don't need to do that. Because of the way the characters are spaced in computerized text, a single space between sentences does not affect readability.

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That depends on the font used. Nowadays, most standard Windows and Mac fonts use 1.5 em (an em is the average width of one "M" character) as the space. Some specialty fonts do not, but nearly all of those that come with the operating system do.

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Shukmeister -

Hi! ..... hope you're doing well.

Regarding the double space after sentences. ..... I may certainly not be remembering correctly, but I believe it's a rule taught in school, here in the U.S., anyway. ..... I've always known it to be correct, the double space after a sentence.

On a different note, while I'm not watching Full House Thai, I did catch some of the squeecaps the other day, upon another beanie's recommendation. ..... Too funny! Great job guys!

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korfan -

Thanks! Julia put in a good comment about the way programmers created their word processing software. But I'm happy I'm not the only double-space-cadet out there.

And I'm glad you are reading our 'caps! I'm not watching CSL or AoF, but I do enjoy the others' discussions.

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With fixed fonts, such as typewriter and presumably hand written, 2 spaces is still the rule. But almost nobody uses either one any more.

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The double spacing is a typical American habit, I think. I have only ever seen it done in the US, not in Europe for sure.
That said, space is good, but paragraphs are far more important. A long text without a little structure is pretty much unreadable. I tend to skip long posts without paragraphs during OT too.

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Nope the doublespacing after sentences is not an American habit, and it's not outdated. I still practise it for my reports, formal email communications and even online comments (like here at dramabeans), and we happen to be a former British colony.

To me it's just simple consideration for the reader.

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Shukmeister,

I am going to have to check out your site on of these days, Seriously, you are squeecapping all the dramas I love.

Your meet up is in Fredericksburg? I stopped at an antique shop there a few years ago and picked up the cutest silver demitasse coffee spoons. You guys have a fun time, I'm sure you will! Wish I was close enough to join you :/

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Also an old double-spacer here. I note that Apple products automatically add a period if you double-space at the end of a sentence.

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bbstl - That helps me out on my IPhone a lot.

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Will come back later, but wanna say hiiii to beanies everywhere, and heartfelt thanks to Shuk, JoAnne, Kakashi for squeecapping. Currently I have to take care of a "drunk" toddler (cause he had to take "happy juice" for dental stuff). Really funny, though..he kept on telling me "mom, you have four eyes!" and in a totally drunken walk "I can walk! Don't worry! I won't hit things!" I feel pity, sad, funny, all at the same moment :)

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nomad -

Pics or it didn't happen. Or better video, so you can be embarrassing on their wedding reception. [evil grin]

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Ahhh should've thought of it. Unfortunately my hands at those moments were busy holding him while he waved me away. Because of religion reason I never had many experience with drunkenness, so it was funny to see that the stuff in kdrama abt heroines waving away helps are stuff of reality.

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Hi nomad.
If you don't mind my asking, are you Muslim by any chance?

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@rushie Yes I am

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I'm probably of a younger generation, I was never thought to double space after every full stop (period). It's a pet peeve of mine to see people put double spaces after every full stop.

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I'm of a younger generation, but it bugs me when people don't put the double space after a sentence.

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Do they even teach something like typing in school anymore? Or since kids basically grow up on computers, does everyone just do a really good job of hunting and pecking or two-thumbed typing?

I find that even though I hated my typing class, I am so happy I know how to actually type via the asdfg method. It makes things so much quicker. But also makes it virtually impossible not to double space at the end. It's like driving a car - I learned so long ago my mind just does it that way.

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The most important computer skill I ever learned was in typing class :)

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I suspect typing classes went out of fashion at the same time as shorthand ones. Managers of a certain age always ask new admin staff if they know shorthand and I can only remember one person ever saying yes.

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They stopped teaching it? I agree with windsun33, one of the most important skills I learned was typing class.

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I also started out on typewriters, so learned the two-spaces-after-a-sentence rule, but I have been a technical writer for over 25 years and as soon as I started taking technical writing courses (I'm going back to about 1985 here, so back when dinosaurs roamed the earth) they quickly pounded it into us that because of the way word processors did kerning (spacing between the letters) you had to use only one space or the overall spaces between sentences would turn out unequal - which really affected readability and comprehension.

I've read up on a lot of readability studies over the years, and what they usually boil down to is that you want white space around a paragraph, around a page, and around call-outs (key pieces of information like a note or warning) and graphics but you want your related sentences to snuggle up together like good friends.

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Very interesting. Answered a lot of questions. I will, however, continue to double space. I'm old. Can't learn new tricks.

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I majored in Technical Writing and Computer Science back in early 80's. Nice to meet someone else who can relate.

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Technical Writers FTW!
I love a job where I am forced to read and write all of the time.

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"you want your related sentences to snuggle up together like good friends"

Nicely put! I can see the picture already - they're squished comfortably together on a sofa, waiting for the next episode of their k-drama to begin! :)

Personally, one thing I'm glad they did away with is the mid-word hypenating we used to see all the time in books, with long words at the end of a line, like "be-ginning", or "recapp-ing".

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Dear Shukmeister - I. Have. Discovered. Your. Squeecaps.

Love it!!

I mentioned it to JoAnne below (at 38.1.1.2), but I was hunting for anything BotC-related, and found your page! Thanks so much for a rollicking good read. I can no longer think of RM as anything but Flunkette!

Looks like Ep 5 squeecap is up. Off to read! *skips off humming the opening song...*

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This Week's Off Topics: Spring, Stars, Dragons, Flowers, English

Watching: Grandpas Over Flowers, Kimchi Chronicles

Happy spring. 행복한 봄
As Robert Browning would say, “The year’s at the spring … All’s right with the world!”

There is a strangly favorable alignment of the stars for me now. I laugh every day. I have let poetry back in my life. I feel the burst of energy new people in my life have brought.

I have waged war on technological dragons. I have wifi, a Samsung Note 3, use Skype-to-Go for international phone calls, and do video calls with Google Hangouts. Still more battles to be waged.

I type in "chingu Shukie" in my message, and not sure if it is predictive text or auto-correct, but they are producing odd replacements for my half-Korean, half English. I have to figure out how to disable this on my phone. Need Korean keyboard on my phone.

I have yet to figure out Kaokotalk, but delving into Google Translate.

Really getting into the swing of being an English tutor. It was surreal when one student began singing Queen songs to practice his English. Try explaining Freddy Mercury in a pink tight fuzzy sweater and mini skirt vacuuming in a music video. Or why it is funny while watching NCIS that the girl says "I dated him, but he didn't get too far."

New posts on my blog this week
- Skype -- a crash course
- Poem: the lone plum flower
- Kindle -- a crash course
- Hashtags, not learning
- Poem: splendid forest
- First day of Spring

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"chingu Shukie"? I'm honored. [bow]

But I wonder what kind of mayhem ensues. Is it a magical talisman to Chaos?? Hmmm...

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Julie, as you have a Note 3, it is very easy to enable the Korean keyboard. Just go to language and input: default keyboard (mine is samsung), click on settings of your default keyboard (even if it is shaded out), then click on input languages, English will already be highlighted, scroll down and click on 한국어 and you are done.

When you are subsequently entering text on any program (Kakao, text messaging, Viber, etc or any website) when your QWERTY keyboard in at the bottom of your screeen, just slide your finger along the spacebar, and you change to the Korean keyboard.

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Thank you. That worked. You are so smart. :-)

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My pleasure

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Hello everyone! Goodness, it's been a long while since I joined the OT. So busy lately. Anyways, let's talk dramas, eh?

God's Gift: I still have to watch this week's episodes but I love what I've watched so far. It isn't as flawless as one could hope for but I applaud the writer for his/her significant improvement from the days of Iljimae. So yeah, it's an engaging drama, Lee Bo Young rocks, and I am also liking Baro in this role a lot.

Wonderful Season: I really tend to dislike weekend dramas but this one has a different quality to it, whether it be the camerawork, the storyline, and the general lack of screechiness/unreasonableness/stupidity that surrounds the usual weekend kdrama characters. Here, I'm so invested in the reconciliation/amends between hero and his family members. As for heroine, I'm not really as interested in her.

Bride of the Century: I really want to like this drama but the general creepiness of second lead liking the look-alike of his sister turns me off. :/ So it's on a hold for now.

And that's pretty much it. I tried Three Days but didn't get past ep 1. On the other hand, I'm looking forward to Gap-dong. And lately, hearing news of my favorite actors/actresses joining some interesting dramas has me excited. Can't wait for summer.

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You know what else is creepy? His stepmom. I keep commenting on that creepiness in my recaps. It's just wrong...

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Raine -

It wasn't until I started recapping BOTC 5 that I realized how evil and manipulative JangMa is: her dau was first shocked at the idea of using DR as a stand-in, but now feels it's her due. That's creepy mom's influence right there.

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Yes, at first I thought there wasn't much to choose between the 2 evil mommas, but I'm beginning to think Mother Jang is missing something (like a heart), not to mention Roo Mi.

I'm glad Yi Hyun Oppa isn't being dense about it, at least!

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Yeah, Madame Creeptastic!

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I would love that show so much more if Mr. Skinny pants wasn't semi related to the look-a-like. It absolutely does not make sense to me, unless he's been physically attracted to her all this time, which is even creepier. Thinking she's nice and sweet, yes, wanting to marry her? No.

It's a shame. I'm used to horrible MiL's, but the brother love is one aspect of the show I can't get past.

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I know right. The last time I saw a mother this depraved was Hana Yori Dango's Madam Kaede. The trick she played on Tsukasa was just so many levels of wrong.

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oh my gosh, Woman! Everything you just said! I mean EVERYTHING... is what I'm thinking and agreeing with. Are you perhaps my doppelganger?

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"..second lead liking the look-alike of his sister.."

I find that a bit creepy also. In fact VERY creepy. But I still like the show so far.

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For me the really weird part is that it's unacknowledged in the drama. He's not creeped out by the fact he's fallen for his sister's double and DR's never mentions it when she rejects him. It's like for this one plotline they don't look anything alike and it's only DR's feelings for someone else that halts their romance.

I've watched incest/faux incest stuff before so this kind of storyline isn't an automatic no for me but on some level the drama does have to acknowledge the ew factor to maintain believability.

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Upcoming Japanese dramas I have interest in:
Shinigami-kun: wiki.d-addicts.com/Shinigami-kun
Seems like dark humor. (Starts in April) Has Ohno Satoshi-san who so can play that type.

Kinda interested in Hanako to Anne as well, about the translator of Anne of Green Gables from English to Japanese. (Which had a lot of influence later on anime such as Candy Candy). 156 episodes, but I don't mind.

The other ones have blah premises, so I'll have to check them out before saying yes.

Current drama list: Getting soooo short
Deja Vu- I still like it... (about to end)
Empress Ki- It's really stepped it up a few notches (about to end...)
Shitsuren Choclatier- I like the twists in episode 9 and 10.
Kirei na Tantei- silly!
Running Man- but I've watched every single episode.
Koibumi biyori

I dislike most of the cop dramas out of Korea because it focuses so much on the OMG drama, rather than the drama being from natural progression.

So I've been cramming The Cosmos, Not another Happy Ending, Winter's Tale, Mr. Selfridge (which I finished quickly)

Maybe I should catch up on some of the other dramas I've skipped due to time constraints.

Dropped: Sly and Single
because the plot... I knew that trusting newbie writers wasn't the way to go and that shoddy PD needs help. (As I pointed out before and it's going exactly the way I predicted in terms of writing.)

Business--Polyglit[dot]Com
I have a fundraising scheme for kickstarter, with minimal cost. (Will need 6,000 dollars, at least, though I have stretch goals too.)

Finding donors to commit to donating an amount. Also gathering together press release, publisher info (as in how to actually become one) =P If you have any ideas on who to hit up for donations, let me know.

I also finished typing in Hong Gil Dong and found a website with a bunch of Public Domain books which have not been translated! Woohoo! (The wish list is long).

Hopefully... something real by June/July... and since the upcoming dramas, frankly suck, I have a good chance of catching bored translators who want to hone their skills.

Questions I had answered about Korean.

- Asked about "Refund" versus "Divorce" but the native speaker was confused.
- Julie's question left the person demanding to know what kind of person she was. Haha. (He still answered anyway...)
- I asked off of Let's Eat what a Gosiwon was... and the guy I asked said it's a small room at least 1 meter x 1 meter. It's super, super small and maybe a kitchen and bathroom for the larger ones. People use them as study rooms...
- Leftover Man does not translate to Korean (It's likely the Korean Language Institute would chase people down for using "남은남자" You can't even say "left out" man. You can say "rejected man" or "Not selected man", but that doesn't have the same meaning. I think this argues very well why direct translation is often better...

Any other...

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Julia is willing to discuss slang words with adults. Did direct one person to the Urban Dictionary, then felt a bit guilty. Especially because of the "trending terms" list that included words I had never heard of. Mayhap I should rethink this approach.

Kim Yoonmi, are you using the Google Translate Toolkit for your translations? Have you created your own glossary? Have you collaborated with others on your translations?

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I'm planning to fix Google translate eventually. It is banned from use on the website. I need human translators to fix it., so using google translate will make the issue I'm trying to fix worse.

I told him the reason was, that you asked, and the context and I wanted to see the look on his face. =P I feel like his Nuna sometimes. I achieved all three. (I did answer last week... but I'm not sure you saw it.) He also asked from which country you came from in an exasperated voice (the tone of what kind of background of girl asks about gigolos and mistresses??) I was amused. Thank you for that. (This is the kind of things I do with my real-life brother... and he always frowns at it... but it's sooo amusing in that sisterly way. I think only people with siblings will understand...)

The translations will have a main translator, several other translators and me. Since it works on the viki.com model.

Anyone is going to be able to join and sign up for the website. Since books don't have seasons and there are tons of books to catch up on, I don't think you'll have trouble getting on a team. I'm allowing for spot translators too. Learn Korean and how to write i and read it.

Mostly because my spelling in Korean is atrocious.... I really want to do some Korean books.

Maybe you'll join on some easier projects once it is up???

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Speaking of books, are you familiar with the Korean book "Eight Words" that the lead borrowed on EC? When she asked, "Oh, you read these kinds of books?" I wondered what it was. There is no description of it on google that I can find. Is it famous? A self-help book?

I thought you might know - thanks.

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Kim Yoonmi,

What I was referring to was "Google Translate Toolkit" that allows human translators to translate text line by line, making corrections, working in collaboration with others, creating their own glossaries and "translation memories".

Google Translate as a straight, automatic computer translation is OK, but if you are a human translator, you probably want to work with the toolkit.

If you are planning a Kickstarter project, then check out what is available from Google already.

I will probably get my Google Translate - crash course article done this week on my blog. Researching it now.

See this Youtube video to see a bit about Google Translate Toolkit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioD3Y2iy6OQ

Thanks again for getting me the info about gigolo. Assure your Korean friend I was raised a good girl with strict Christian values who didn't date until I went to college, lost my virginity on my wedding night, and couldn't even speak words for parts even after marriage without blushing ... but now I am a bold, confident, 50 year old ajumma who can talk about *stuff*, ok I blush a lot, and it has to be very private between good friends. Oh my, I'm red in the face just thinking of this. I'm a good girl at heart, really. (hangs head in shame)

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Haha. I'll let him know.

We're going to do better than the Google translate Toolkit. They took that from Duolingo which I have issues with.

For example, Google automatically translates for you.

Hell no. While me may have a dictionary later, it isn't a good idea to translate ahead. You don't learn anything and it tempts people to be lazy.

Google only takes a line for you-- we will take the full sentence.
for many, many reasons, which include, but are not limited to agglutinating languages, language syntax order (for example, Korean to English and English to Korean subject object and verb are in a different order.) polysynthetic languages, the use of commas differs between languages, and cultural context and structure of sentences often changes.

It's ethnocentric to do it by line rather than by sentence.

I know my linguistics. Part of the reason Google translate fails is that it doesn't pay attention to linguistics.

I hate the mini pop up box, so no...

I'm allowing italics, bold, etc (no colors) in the translation automatically.

I'm going to try to reduce the amount of times you need to use the mouse.

And I'm definitely allowing for translator notes, making it easy to access, type in and check. Google translator doesn't do that.

Plus we are going to encourage a communal setting. Be faster translation, be a better translator, and I'm going to try hard to make it as user friendly as possible with the ability to see what you translated and how it was corrected.

Got a programmer to do this... once I organize the kickstarter funds.

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Kim Yoonmi, sounds really interesting but a lot bigger than a $6K budget. I am speaking as a decades experienced computer programmer.

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@Julia I itemized with a programmer and calculated the time with her. She said it would take a month at most at 30/hour.

The rest is hosting. I've spent a lot of time thinking it through.

I'm doing graphics, etc. I know website design, UX, GUIs, etc. I fill in the parts she's not as good at. (The social parts of the website, for example.) I'm aware of what it takes to program. She'll be under contract. I also have programming relatives, so I know that the rate is 100 dollars per hour, I told her that up front, but since she doesn't have the experience she tried to underquote at 20 dollars an hour, but I insisted that she should ask for a minimum of 30 dollars an hour to not undercut the market and herself.

The translator is going to be the hardest part of the thing and have bugs, UI bugs, etc. We're expecting it. I told her to calculate that into the cost of time along with documentation, and things like how it works.

After the 6k budget then I will be able to know if it's viable. It's only a pilot at this point. It's only for the prototype. 'cause I'm being realistic. All of the other frills will come later on once I know the prototype is good to go, and then I can get the apps going, advertising and work on building enough money to hook in professional translators, etc. I also need a money manager.

If I get over the 6K, then I can hire an app builder and start the financial viable side of the company.

BTW, he said (person I asked about gigolo), "I see." me==amused.

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Honestly, I really don't see how anyone could like or even bear to watch Deja Vu.

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I'm not recommending it to anyone... I defer them to Lucky Days instead which was well done and well scripted and not watched that much. I liked the acting on Lucky Days and the theming was a lot tighter. Almost no one watched it with me.

Deja Vu, I like because it explores fate from a Buddhist/Chinese perspective more than it explores destiny. It also explores the meaning of choice against fate and I have to admit I'm a sucker for that sort of thing.

The downsides are that it's kinda slow to pick up the slack on the male character and fix a fatal flaw of the plotting, but it still gets around to it. (Granted some 10 episodes later). The acting is a bit rough in areas, and I dislike the use of mental health for the "evil" character as a way to hate her more. (She seems to have an anxiety/depression disorder--this makes me wince, especially as acted rather than feel sympathy... which I wish they would play for... the evil that you feel pangs for despite that... (see Empress Ki's Tanashiri awesomely evil, but still oddly sympathetic and likable in spots.))

The flaw on the male character is knowing if he loves her because they are fated, or if he loves her because she rescued her... and they spend a lot of time not fixing that problem, but they did manage to fix it in the last twist which I won't spoil.

BUT, I do like the theming about how things seem to happen anyway, the psychological aspect of it, and the questioning of what's real and what's not. But that may be hitting the part where I like Being John Malcovich, What Dreams May Come, Photographing Fairies and Magic realism part. It's not that popular in Western Literature... but it feels fairytalish that way.

Deja Vu is slow, has a lot of flaws up front, feels uneven on mental health and at first women's rights. But it does fix the majority of the problems with the plot, albeit slowly and quite painfully. (Just not the mental health issues...)

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Happy OT

EC: CM’s mom gets even more ridiculous (though I thought that wouldn’t be possible) but at least he stands his ground this time and AR knows her limits as well. The truth about JH and CM being the divorced couple is also out of the bag and now Chief Gook just has to overcome his prejudice he has towards divorcees because it’s just plain wrong! I love Ji Hye more and more because she seems to be the sole voice of reason in this drama and by now I am really hoping she gets her happy end with Chief Gook =)

GG: I knew that DC wasn’t the murderer of the murderer (that sounds kind of funny^^) but damn those cliff-hangers really leave you wondering or stop your heart (see end of ep 6). Thankfully we got to know some more about DC’s past and man it is tragic! Him being responsible for YK ending up mentally challenged…it just broke my heart when he told YK to never forgive him =(
I still don’t know what to think of daddy Han and if he’s a good guy or a bad guy (did he ‘steal’ the ring and earring in the plastic bags that SH left at home? And if he did, WHY did he?) and it drives me crazy because I really want him to be a good guy!
Now that they apparently (with this drama you never know) found SB’s killer I am wondering how everything’s going to proceed. I mean… we’re still too early in the drama for the killer to be caught, right?
Nevertheless I am totally (and guiltily at that) shipping SH and DC together because they’re awesome =)

CSL: So it was a miscarriage as we all predicted and I actually found myself screaming at the screen for people to sit down and TALK to each other -.- Because seriously if AR and JW would have talked to each other in the past they could have prevented the divorce (maybe). But then again we wouldn’t have a drama^^ I am totally rooting for our OTP to get back together again after this week’s episode because they still have feelings (good ones not just bad ones^^) for each other.

Movies:

Since Jo Seung Woo has captured my heart in God’s Gift I checked out 2 of his movies this week. Marathon in which he portrays an autistic man (and brilliantly might I add which makes me love him even more) and Go Go 70s which was also a great watch but then I like nearly every movie about music/bands etc.^^

And since I would exceed the character limit with my thoughts on the variety shows once again I’ll post those under this post ;)

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And here we go with the Variety =)

RM: Dear Lord… These goofs! I swear the beginning had me in stitches and now I want a ‘Big Brother – The Running Man Edition’ xD
It was nice to see JH and I was glad that she didn’t have to do much (and got to eat!) because with her drama schedule she must be exhausted.
I swear KS made me love him even more this ep with his outgoing personality. Although his English is limited he’s not shy to talk to people and tries his best to communicate with the fans. It’s really endearing!

SR: Sarang and the Jang brothers were adorable as always and Junsu rocks his new hair! HS reading the book to Sarang was great and it was adorable how she lit up while listening =)
It was nice to see Tablo and Haru with friends of them and Haru has changed so much from the beginning. She is smiling much more and she seems to really enjoy the time with her dad =)
God the twins grow so damn fast and now they’re slowly starting to speak… Time sure flies by!

1N2D S3: LOL at the pancake flipping contest and all the hilarious fails of everyone but JY with his tiny but effective flip :D And OMG that fight for the teeniest bite of food had me in stitches. Talk about crushing your image xD I could actually watch them fight over food all day, it’s hilarious.

CKOTB: THEY’RE BACK =) Damn did I miss them! Taekwondo it is and I was awestruck by the demonstration! The calls to the applicants were great and that middle schooler who’s a massive HD fan cracked me up xD The pick up of the last three celebrities was pretty fun too but the first part of the audition was by far the best! The kids there were adorable but I was so impressed by that group of 60-80 year olds! Damn they were still fit!
I’m just gutted that KBS WORLD didn’t translate the 2 Sochi Specials (+ introduction of TWD) =(

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I'm enjoying Emergency Couple. Chief Gook having his stupid thing against divorcees is ridiculous but he seems to get over it pretty quickly. I'm still not really sure why he has a thing for Jin Hee though, whereas I can understand why Chang Min likes her. Chang Min has figured out that he needs to stop being so forceful with JH, which is nice. I'm so glad everyone knows they're divorced now. I loved the Nurse's reaction when they found out about Chang Min, ha ha

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LOL...a few weeks ago I was blurring the supporting characters between I Need Romance 3 and Can We Love...now I'm fixating on the similarities between Emergency Couple and Cunning Single Lady.

1) Set in a workplace
2) OTP is a divorced couple
3) OTP married young, and the marriage fell apart within 1 - 2 years
4) Financial pressure was part of marriage downfall (I know, that's a typical issue)
5) Husband had career issues at the time marriage went sour.
6) Couple meet up again in the workplace after several years
7) Heroine deals with lack of respect from work colleges.
8) Ex-MIL dislikes heroine, talks down to her, bad-mouths her to hero, etc.
9) Ex-MIL has a noticeable preference for heroine's rival for hero's affections.
10) Hero's dad has a continued affection for his ex-DIL
11) SPOILER! Hero's dad dies
12) Hero's dad's death is a catalyist in drawing hero and heroine closer.

And so on...

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I've been noticing the parallels between these two as well. It's interesting how the two stories deal with the same issues in their own way.

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You missed a very important thing; you can actually root for them to get back together in CSL.

And I see no hope for that in EC.

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Emergency Couple and Non-emergency Couple!

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In Sly & Single again, they were together around 4 years and tried for a while, and they didn't run into each other at the workplace, but rather the jail.

I think Cunning Single Lady focuses less on the romance and more on the series of relationships and understandings as a whole.

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Jo Seung Woo is just wonderful. Nobody can look as much in love as he. You might want to check out The Classic for this.

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The Classic is next on my list ;)
I've completely fallen for him^^ I mean... he can also SING! Amazingly! I hate it when they can sing because I have such a soft spot for good actors that can sing and that leads to more movies and dramas on the already endless to-watch-list^^ Though I don't know if I can mangae to watch Horse Healer^^

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All I can say is, that I watched The Horse Healer in all its mostly boring glory just for him. Guess I must be obsessed.

Oh, what I'd give to see him perform live. Till then this has to satisfy me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4adsEz3z-tA

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I'm watching Horse Healer now, and I enjoyed it so far. It's sucha light sageuk that I can watch while working. However I do wonder how many times they will frame him and send him to jail in this drama?

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It isn't unwatchable, but could have been done much better (one major issue for me is Lee Yo-Won. I'm not a big fan of her acting).
To me it had a certain theatrical feeling, if you know what I mean. It was in the timing, pauses and style of shooting.

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Yeah I guess I'll just watch for him...and...there is the fast forward button xD

I would give everything to see him perform live because I LOVE musicals =) Youtube has been a great friend to me the last few days ^^

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@Newbie lol. yeap it's so theatrical and oh-so-dramatic sometimes that it becomes hilarious for me in serious moment. Maybe that's why I enjoy it. But I do like some of the characters, like the princess and her bodyguard. The poor soul is demoted from warrior to errand boy :D
I'm watching it while working so I think I'm easily distracted with my work when it got to boring parts. I guess you either have your finger ready in the fast forward button or have work to do when you watch this. lol

Btw, he's singing in English and he's in uniform, I'm in love:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA3oN14KpPE

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Oh I can say I did the same...all for JSW :) I was watching for the story, and to see him make use of his skills, finally rise up and get revenge against those who wronged him...but the second half kinda got dull and boring. I still watched every episode though, just to see JSW! Thank goodness he's in GG now...he's now topping my fave Korean actor list :)

I'm gonna take your rec and see if I can watch the movies you mentioned. Although I do recollect he was in the movie Tazza...? Ha, I had watched that a while ago and didn't even realize it was him until after watching HD ;P

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@Latteholic - save yourself, bail now on Horse Healer.

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YES! He looks so in love in this. I just melt into a puddle of warm cuddly mush everytime he has that smitten look on his face..
I'm so happy I discovered him in God's Gift. He is wonderful!

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I'm so excited to see all the love he receives through out this OT. He so deserves it.

I waited till now to start God's Gift, as I like to watch a couple of eps in the beginning of a show, but now I'll start it, I became too curious!

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I didn't expect anything from God's Gift (except that some people had mentioned how good it is), but I was hooked by the end of episode 1. SO GOOD. And he's just awesome in here. You have to start it now! :)

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